Current Events > Lizzo close to 'quitting' music because of all of the online abuse she receives

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AloneIBreak
06/02/23 3:49:34 PM
#202:


CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Hell, people missing Fat Jonah Hill over Skinny Jonah Hill is basically a meme now. People are always gonna say shit.
If Lizzo lost a bunch of weight like that, people would be piiiisssed. Shes in a no-win situation at this point tbh.

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ShineboxPhil
06/02/23 3:50:37 PM
#203:


Lmao at vfalcone and solo_wing

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TonyKojima
06/02/23 3:51:19 PM
#204:


AloneIBreak posted...
If Lizzo lost a bunch of weight like that, people would be piiiisssed. Shes in a no-win situation at this point tbh.
And that makes zero sense? Why get mad at people losing weight?

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Euripides
06/02/23 3:52:12 PM
#205:


And the shit takes keep on rolling in. Where are the mods today?

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Solo_Wing
06/02/23 3:53:55 PM
#206:


VFalcone posted...
I don't really understand it either. The hate is totally unjustified. If I put her on a scale that goes from 1 to 10, she'd definitely be a 10.
I hope for your sake that your scale can take a ton of punishment

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NeonTentacles
06/02/23 3:56:04 PM
#207:


TonyKojima posted...
And that makes zero sense? Why get mad at people losing weight?

NeonTentacles posted...

people just want to drag other people down to their level to make themselves feel better, instead of improving themselves


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NoxObscuras
06/02/23 3:56:31 PM
#208:


AloneIBreak posted...
If Lizzo lost a bunch of weight like that, people would be piiiisssed. Shes in a no-win situation at this point tbh.
True. Same thing happened when Adele lost weight.

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AloneIBreak
06/02/23 3:58:25 PM
#209:


TonyKojima posted...
And that makes zero sense? Why get mad at people losing weight?
Agreed, it makes about as much sense as being mad at someone for being fat. Everyone needs to fuck off and mind their business.

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Oreos74
06/02/23 4:01:05 PM
#211:


*gif of woody harrelson wiping his tears away with money*


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VirtuousWrath
06/02/23 4:01:18 PM
#212:


codey posted...
I'm sorry she has confidence.
If she really "had confidence", why is she "close to quitting music"?

"Having confidence" would imply you shut out the haters and don't care what they think.

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VFalcone
06/02/23 4:13:23 PM
#213:


Solo_Wing posted...
I hope for your sake that your scale can take a ton of punishment
Oh it can. It's pound-for-pound one of the best out there.
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gamestunner
06/02/23 4:15:41 PM
#214:


I don't condone bullying.

But I also don't feel bad for rich people.

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NeonTentacles
06/02/23 4:19:41 PM
#215:


I'm dying from all these fat puns LOL

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lolife67
06/02/23 4:26:33 PM
#216:


VirtuousWrath posted...
If she really "had confidence", why is she "close to quitting music"?

"Having confidence" would imply you shut out the haters and don't care what they think.
Because everyone has a breaking point. That doesn't mean she lacks confidence.
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CoyoteTheGreat
06/02/23 4:32:58 PM
#217:


Zonbei posted...
Thank you for this demonstration of having no fucking clue what youre talking about but still opening your mouth and confidently talking shit anyways.

You can be angry about it all you want, but the fact is, being obese isn't healthy, and people are happier when they are healthier.

By all means, be positive about your body and the way you look. There are certainly enough people in the world that love the way an obese body is shaped. But even if we accept that the best way to be a beautiful human being is to eat as much as possible and gain as many pounds as possible, it isn't healthy, and being unhealthy isn't something that should be encouraged even if we say it is more aesthetically pleasing to be that way. The same principle is true with pumping your body full of steroids or starving yourself to the point of anorexia. Its one thing to be positive about the way your body looks and another to encourage unhealthy behaviors.

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bloodyarts
06/02/23 4:34:54 PM
#218:


Zonbei posted...
This might be the dumbest, most incorrect analogy Ive ever seen in my entire life. Does doing your job cause the rain? Is the rain specifically targeted at you? Will quitting your job make the rain stop happening as often?

Shut the fuck up.
It's a toothless and reactionary statement, just like her "threat" to quit music.

Pick up your cape.

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Zonbei
06/02/23 4:51:36 PM
#219:


uwnim posted...
Saying damn I wish the world wasnt like this and then stopping there is worthless and honestly falls into the category of well she knows what the internet is like, so oh well. Attacking people who dont stop there and are making an earnest attempt at finding alternatives is worse than worthless.

Yes, if she doesnt want to make music then she shouldnt. But if she does want to and stops because of people like the ones mocking her in this topic then that is fucked up.

I mean obviously I advocate for telling the people mocking her to stop, and very harshly, but as you can see I just got modded in this topic for calling a well known troll a troll, so thats difficult here. Im not attacking anyone looking for alternatives, just the ones who keep concern trolling about alternatives while providing none.

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Zonbei
06/02/23 4:54:32 PM
#220:


Euripides posted...
And the shit takes keep on rolling in. Where are the mods today?

They deleted my message for calling TonyKojima what he is, so thats what theyre up to. Youre not allowed to insult anyone here no matter what in any way, even if its just accurately describing what theyre doing, but they can be blatant trolls all they want, and even insult you as long as its only obliquely and doesnt use any of the bad words like idiot or potato. (Yes I was modded for calling someone a potato.)

Im not blaming that particular mod, they seem to be fine, but theres clearly some fucked up rules on this site.

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Zonbei
06/02/23 4:57:46 PM
#221:


CoyoteTheGreat posted...
You can be angry about it all you want, but the fact is, being obese isn't healthy, and people are happier when they are healthier.

By all means, be positive about your body and the way you look. There are certainly enough people in the world that love the way an obese body is shaped. But even if we accept that the best way to be a beautiful human being is to eat as much as possible and gain as many pounds as possible, it isn't healthy, and being unhealthy isn't something that should be encouraged even if we say it is more aesthetically pleasing to be that way. The same principle is true with pumping your body full of steroids or starving yourself to the point of anorexia. Its one thing to be positive about the way your body looks and another to encourage unhealthy behaviors.

Why does it matter so much to you whether a singer is healthy and happy? Are you also super concerned about, I dunno, male movie stars that have drug addictions? Was it super important to let everyone know how unhealthy they were all the time and harass them about changing?


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BlueBoy675
06/02/23 5:00:39 PM
#222:


Im saying this as someone who has been overweight their entire life and is currently working to change it.

It is NOT healthy to be obese. That being said, you should never bully or harass someone for their weight. That is gross behavior and should not be tolerated.

I do believe we need to quit this narrative that its healthy to be overweight. It factually is not. We are encouraging people to eat themselves into heart disease by age 30 because somehow we consider that more humane than potentially hurting their feelings. Im thankful to my doctor for pushing me so hard. Ive lost 30 pounds in the past month and a half and Ive never felt better.

Thats just my take. I of course think its wrong people are insulting and harassing her, but this being obese is healthy narrative is detrimental to society overall.

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BLeeD90s
06/02/23 5:06:02 PM
#223:


Reminds me of the people complaining about 261 being banned, yet here they are. I think a lot of you easing off social media would help you out. Too bad youre addicted.
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Zonbei
06/02/23 5:10:03 PM
#224:


BLeeD90s posted...
Reminds me of the people complaining about 261 being banned, yet here they are. I think a lot of you easing off social media would help you out. Too bad youre addicted.

So is trolling about 261 just your entire persona now? You were just doing this in the realpolitik thread too.

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lolife67
06/02/23 5:12:07 PM
#225:


BlueBoy675 posted...
I do believe we need to quit this narrative that its healthy to be overweight.
Please show me where anyone has actually said this? I only ever hear it from people claiming it's been said.
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mybbqrules
06/02/23 5:13:05 PM
#226:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Leave it to CE to make the argument that someone "asked" for online abuse and harassment just because they don't find her attractive

And I don't even like Lizzo
It's topics like this that make me howl with laughter about CE saying "things were so much better here before all the toxic 261'ers showed up!"

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mybbqrules
06/02/23 5:14:08 PM
#227:


Zonbei posted...
So is trolling about 261 just your entire persona now? You were just doing this in the realpolitik thread too.
It's a 2022 account with 62 karma. Of course it's a troll alt.

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thronedfire2
06/02/23 5:17:20 PM
#228:


mybbqrules posted...
It's a 2022 account with 62 karma. Of course it's a troll alt.

SMAL must have remembered he had a 50+ karma account lying around

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Zonbei
06/02/23 5:18:33 PM
#229:


mybbqrules posted...
It's a 2022 account with 62 karma. Of course it's a troll alt.

Oh I know. I still like to make it loudly known.

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mybbqrules
06/02/23 5:20:44 PM
#230:


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Considering the tags I have for some of them, yes. Yes they are.

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asdf8562
06/02/23 5:23:01 PM
#231:


lolife67 posted...
Please show me where anyone has actually said this? I only ever hear it from people claiming it's been said.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/0/AAZcyuAAEiHC.jpg

I mean it's definitely a movement, just Google a few. Tiktok, Instagram and social media in general has influencers who pushed it as well.
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asdf8562
06/02/23 5:26:07 PM
#232:


Zonbei posted...
Why does it matter so much to you whether a singer is healthy and happy? Are you also super concerned about, I dunno, male movie stars that have drug addictions? Was it super important to let everyone know how unhealthy they were all the time and harass them about changing?
I'd like to point out male or female, drug abuse and obesity isn't something that should be defined as healthy.

Also, neither is a male only or female only thing.
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R1masher
06/02/23 5:31:07 PM
#233:


Got eem, probably come back in caplock

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Zonbei
06/02/23 5:39:30 PM
#235:


asdf8562 posted...
I'd like to point out male or female, drug abuse and obesity isn't something that should be defined as healthy.

Also, neither is a male only or female only thing.

I didnt say it was. I said that people tend to focus on feminine people and their weight and not spend nearly as much time talking about and harassing others about the other things.

That said: drug abuse is always unhealthy. As is the point trying to be made by that magazine cover up there, being overweight or even having the appearance of being overweight isnt always unhealthy. People have a wide variety of genetic types and a lot of the time people who seem overweight are healthy. Im skinny as fuck and Im more unhealthy than many people I know who are fat. I eat like garbage, I dont sleep well, I dont exercise, I have genetic heart problems. Theyre way healthier than I am, but theyre the ones getting insulted and having people worry about their health.

How about people just mind their own damn business?

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asdf8562
06/02/23 6:01:12 PM
#236:


Zonbei posted...
I didnt say it was. I said that people tend to focus on feminine people and their weight and not spend nearly as much time talking about and harassing others about the other things.
Woman get more attention because it's more celebrated and embraced that their weight at any size is beautiful, and some go too far to even call it healthy. There's an empowering movement that men should accept a woman at any size, and to not it's being fat phobic.

Fat men are not generally paraded around as much as woman, for being something people should just accept the way they are.

A woman turning down a fat man for being a fat guy is less frowned upon than a man turning down a woman for being fat woman.

That doesn't condone harassment btw, it's just an explanation for you inquiry on attention. Fat men aren't nearly celebrated as much as being manly or healthy at any size.
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-_rustykranz_-
06/02/23 6:01:31 PM
#237:


Who?

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Skankhair
06/02/23 6:04:13 PM
#238:


Miserable bigots sure cry a lot about Lizzo.
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Sansoldier
06/02/23 6:04:22 PM
#239:


I just don't understand how people can be so big. Most that I know seem pretty active and to my knowledge, aren't eating 3x as much as other people. Wouldn't be surprised if the food itself lacked the nutrients, or they had some other medical issue. Something that makes them gain 1-2 lbs a month that adds up over years.

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Zonbei
06/02/23 6:10:23 PM
#240:


asdf8562 posted...
Woman get more attention because it's more celebrated and embraced that their weight at any size is beautiful, and some go too far to even call it healthy. There's an empowering movement that men should accept a woman at any size, and to not it's being fat phobic.

Fat men are not generally paraded around as much as woman, for being something people should just accept the way they are.

A woman turning down a fat man for being a fat guy is less frowned upon than a man turning down a woman for being fat woman.

That doesn't condone harassment btw, it's just an explanation for you inquiry on attention. Fat men aren't nearly celebrated as much as being manly or healthy at any size.


Its true that fat men arent being talked about as much in a positive sense, but thats largely because they were already not being harassed as much. (And they ARE talked about, just by the leftist folks who are against all fatphobia rather than the media.) It was always more acceptable to be a fat man than a fat woman. Theyve always been celebrated for being manly. Fat men were shown being with thin, conventionally beautiful women all the time. See: every sitcom ever. So now the celebrating of fat women is a reaction to that.

And now as a reaction to THAT people are doubling down on the harassment and insulting of fat women.

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asdf8562
06/02/23 6:10:45 PM
#241:


Zonbei posted...
How about people just mind their own damn business?
Arguably, I say influencers telling loved ones they are healthy at any size is their business.

Social media, influencers, celebrities, whatever high profiled person telling my family and friends that it's OK to be obese, I'd argue is my business as I don't wish to see loved ones in my life develop high risk health problems due to an avoidable lifestyle they are falsely being told is perfectly healthy.

Now I must clarify, I'm not claiming Lizzo does this.... I really don't know much of anything about her. I'm also not condoning anyone who harassed her and still is.

There's a difference between verbal abuse/harassment and just voicing against anyone claiming obesity is healthy (which again, I have not a clue if Lizzo was doing this).
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asdf8562
06/02/23 6:13:16 PM
#242:


Zonbei posted...
Theyve always been celebrated for being manly. Fat men were shown being with thin, conventionally beautiful women all the time. See: every sitcom ever. So now the celebrating of fat women is a reaction to that.
Fat men in today's society are most definitely not celebrated as manly athletic men that woman should love regardless of a man's weight.

The ideal man that's paraded around is a fit athletic man who can kick a person's ass, with a fit body.
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Zonbei
06/02/23 6:18:30 PM
#243:


asdf8562 posted...
Fat men in today's society are most definitely not celebrated as manly athletic men that woman should love regardless of a man's weight.

I mean. Thats not really true even on the surface. Are we pretending dad bod isnt a whole thing? Are we pretending there isnt a ton of media about a fat guy dating conventionally attractive women? like, again, literally every sitcom ever? James Cordens entire career? Fucking Family Guy, even? And going back further to the foundations of comedy sitcoms, the Simpsons? A dynamic you see in a million other places, including real life.

For the most part, in my experience women care far less about weight. this isnt saying unfair standards for men dont exist: there is definitely still a focus on athletic, muscular dudes with abs. But its never been as stark or pervasive as it is for women, and fat men have always been treated better than fat women.

Its only very recently one section of society has decided to not treat fat women like shit, and as you can see the pushback was immediate and strong.

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NeonTentacles
06/02/23 6:19:15 PM
#244:


A man's body is built for utility. A woman's body is built for beauty.

https://youtu.be/a9v8hcAezkk

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lolife67
06/02/23 6:21:44 PM
#245:


asdf8562 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/0/AAZcyuAAEiHC.jpg

I mean it's definitely a movement, just Google a few. Tiktok, Instagram and social media in general has influencers who pushed it as well.
Did you actually read the articles or just look at the picture and decide?
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projektpete
06/02/23 6:21:44 PM
#246:


....what an absolute shame that would be...



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VFalcone
06/02/23 6:34:28 PM
#247:


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UnholyMudcrab
06/02/23 6:35:46 PM
#248:


Where the fuck are the mods

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Irony
06/02/23 6:37:46 PM
#249:


I don't blame her. If you're fat skinny people hate you. If you lose weight then fat people hate you because apparently that means you hate fat people

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Torgo
06/02/23 6:41:06 PM
#250:


Zonbei posted...
I mean. Thats not really true even on the surface. Are we pretending dad bod isnt a whole thing? Are we pretending there isnt a ton of media about a fat guy dating conventionally attractive women? like, again, literally every sitcom ever? James Cordens entire career? Fucking Family Guy, even? And going back further to the foundations of comedy sitcoms, the Simpsons? A dynamic you see in a million other places, including real life.

For the most part, in my experience women care far less about weight. this isnt saying unfair standards for men dont exist: there is definitely still a focus on athletic, muscular dudes with abs. But its never been as stark or pervasive as it is for women, and fat men have always been treated better than fat women.

Its only very recently one section of society has decided to not treat fat women like shit, and as you can see the pushback was immediate and strong.

Your post immediately brought this to mind:
https://youtu.be/6c26pKyK3tk

Sorry for the quality, that's the best I could find on Youtube

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thronedfire2
06/02/23 6:49:15 PM
#252:


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those posts felt like the 15th-20th replies to a funny reddit post

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