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htaeD
06/22/23 9:52:35 AM
#51:


Isquen posted...
Call it a gut feeling.


Once again the word of the day is
Convenient

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Isquen
06/22/23 9:53:37 AM
#52:


I want to make an incensed taunt but I used it correctly on Suprak last game.

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htaeD
06/22/23 9:57:06 AM
#53:


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ViolentAbacus
06/22/23 9:57:44 AM
#54:


Lea posted...
I am unnerved by how quickly everyone abandoned Sbell. It can't all be because of Ulti threatening to murder folks. I swear y'all have read too many news stories about doomed subs because you're acting terrified of pressure. I said that in a funny way but seriously even if you don't find the votes on Sbell compelling, it's only going to result in more info to let it ride, maybe make him actually claim instead of being grumpy, etc. This happens every game and it results in sweeping scum victories.

I agree with this for the most part. Even before the gladiator, it seems like people shrugged and just went "eh, oh well" and left. Opposite of what most people say about pushing claims and such. D2 I'd still like to look into Sbell.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Glad that could target two town is beyond banned.

??? If youre a town gladiator wouldnt that always be an option?

Kirby gave no thoughts, and asked for a no lynch. I dont like that. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt and was hoping to see more after his few posts where he was also noncommittal really early on.

Yeah, like IGCD said, if town the other is likely dead no matter what. Oof.

Kirby321 posted...
Guess I might as well drop my reads while the day stagnates.

I voted SBell as a joke and fully intended to unvote him as soon as he got close to being hammered. I didn't really see the arguments against him. If anything, Peaf seemed extremely aggressive and defensive. Then again, everyone just seemed really pissed off at each other from what I read during my catch-up.

Lean town on Wallz. I've observed him over the past couple of games, and he seems like he's in his town persona. Everyone else I don't have much of a read on, least of all Death. Though if Death is town, Ulti most certainly has to be.


Dont like the it was a joke and especially dont like the Would unvote when he was close to being hammered. I felt like the case against him was pretty strong at the time (and still is, really). Where was Peaf defensive/aggressive? He may have been and I was too focused on IGCD and Sbell, but I didnt see that.

Peaf, do you still believe Lopen is scum?

Death also had a much better day later imo, was more pushy/gave more thoughts rather than posting to wait and see.

UltimaterializerX posted...
Yeah, I think they're both town and I fucked the game.

I don't think mafia is for me and maybe it never was. Hard to think positive when I'm always one of the worst players even after like 120 games played -_-

Ulti, don't be down on yourself! It's fine, and just a game! And you're far from being one of the worst players. Have you seen me?!

Anyway, fine to do a Kirby lynch for now. We're kind of inbetween a rock + hard place. And Kirby's return play doesn't feel like someone who is itching to fight to stay alive.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/22/23 10:03:33 AM
#55:


I just want to make sure Kirby is lynched. I have very specific reasoning as to why he needs to be first but I cannot share it until day 2

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Obellisk
06/22/23 10:07:04 AM
#56:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I just want to make sure Kirby is lynched. I have very specific reasoning as to why he needs to be first but I cannot share it until day 2


you can consider my vote on kirby, I do not think that Death is scum. but I don't have a feeling either way on kirby.

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htaeD
06/22/23 10:08:31 AM
#57:


Kirby could be town yes, but he otherwise has not left me with much of an impression beyond being 'nice'.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/22/23 10:11:36 AM
#58:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
I just want to make sure Kirby is lynched. I have very specific reasoning as to why he needs to be first but I cannot share it until day 2
Ok i lied i cannot share the reasoning why, but I can assure you he is scum.

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htaeD
06/22/23 10:13:12 AM
#59:


Oh
Kinda feel like that wasnt necessary to reveal, but then again I dont know how many people prefer him over me right now.

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ViolentAbacus
06/22/23 10:16:31 AM
#60:


##Vote: Kirby

I would rather end early today in the hopes that the day starts at 10PM tonight so I can be around more tomorrow.

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htaeD
06/22/23 10:19:23 AM
#61:


I dont think thats gonna happen, but either way its beyond my timezone.

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 10:20:00 AM
#62:


Votals if you dare
(6) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD,Abacus
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz

Takes 7 to Hammer!

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IfGodCouldDie
06/22/23 10:20:13 AM
#63:


htaeD posted...
Oh
Kinda feel like that wasnt necessary to reveal, but then again I dont know how many people prefer him over me right now.
It's out of game knowledge that I just kind of realized is probably against the spirit of the game to actually reveal.

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Kirby321
06/22/23 10:25:12 AM
#64:


ViolentAbacus posted...
And Kirby's return play doesn't feel like someone who is itching to fight to stay alive.

I'd rather die than have the Doctor's blood on my hands. Like I said, Death and I are both gonna end up dead by D2 so what's the point in arguing that he gets lynched first? It doesn't matter. It only matters if Death is scum, and I don't think he is.

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Obellisk
06/22/23 10:27:57 AM
#65:


Just give me the ok and I'll hammer.

after last game with corrik and the doc fiasco, I'd rather not lynch the doc claim in general.

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IfGodCouldDie
06/22/23 10:30:03 AM
#66:


I'm giving the OK @Obellisk

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:31:11 AM
#67:


##vote,: Death

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:31:20 AM
#68:


##vote: Death

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Lopen
06/22/23 10:31:21 AM
#69:


ViolentAbacus posted...

Lopen, I was going to ask what made you change and think Sbell was town after? And why do you think Peaf is scum? Do you still believe that? (Was going to ask this before I saw the Direct, now I guess it doesn't really matter until tomorrow).

Peaf and Isquen were focusing on how scummy I was and completely ignoring sbell

My thought was sbell was going to flip town and they were setting up a 1-2

And yes I still think peaf is scum. He seems like he's playing a character with his bravado about me being scum and not trying to solve anything

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:32:52 AM
#70:


Neither claim should have mattered here in anyone's decision making. Both are neutralized and thus don't matter and either would lie

##unvote:
##vote: Kirby

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:34:02 AM
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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 10:39:00 AM
#72:


THATS A STOP KIRBY HAS BEEN HAMMERED!

final votals
Votals if you dare
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD,Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)

You have 15 minutes to correct votals if no issues flip to follow

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 10:56:38 AM
#73:


Ulti runs in from the backyard and yells, wait just one God damn minute here hold up why are we not looking at Death and Kirby? I have on good authority that we should kill one of these two one of these two has to be one of the Mafia Members right? *unsure of himself as he yells*

*everyone looks at Ulti in confusion*

Ulti aggressively pushes to the front of the crowd with two ropes in hand stating either one of these two die today or I will flip the fuck out any objections?

Sultan's voice rings throughout the home Death by Jury this sounds like a grand idea!

*Everybody's jaws hit the floor that Sultan agrees to this idea*

The party must decide who it is that will be hung Kirby or Death!

Ulti yells out to the Crowd it Must be Kirby and quickly ties a rope to his neck.
The Jury agrees that Kirby should die instead of Death.

Kirby is hung and then a calm goes over the crowd.
Sultan examines the Body and finds 3 things; A Buisness card that says Call for a good time and has Kirby's Number below.

And additionally a loaded Gun, and a note that reads:

Dear Kirby,

I am glad you have agreed to this voyage to Steal Sultan's fortune at the Gamefaqs party.
I am but the messanger here but we shall fill you in meet us at dawn on shore we will discuss further.
Sincerely, Chaos Tony

It appears as if Kirby wanted to be loved any way possible that he would want to steal from me; for shame Kirby atleast there is one less Member of the Mafia to deal with.
Kirby you will have to live another life to find the love you are craving and I will not be the one to give it to you, for shame you didn't even have a phone call for a good time either the pity I have on you sir.

I; Sultan am to distraught to help you with your search my friends I must prepare for the worst. God speed and please stop them I beg of you keep finding the Mafia and you shall be awarded.

Kirby has been eliminated he was:

Kirby: Scum Prostitute

Hello Kirby. What can I say about Kirby, my mind goes to the similarities between you and the dum pink ball. You both desire nothing more than to be loved. You also like to suck up to others with your desire to be GameFAQs Mafia loved.

Here is your chance Kirby to finally be loved! Each Night, pick up someone to sleep with and if they get up, you will know. They will, however, learn that somebody did them.

You win when the scum team has the majority.

again meta flavor text at your own risk

Eliminated:
PREGAME: Ctes Town Vanilla/chaos Tony scum Vanilla
D1:Kirby Scum Prostitute

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 11:14:53 AM
#74:


Night Actions due by 9pm tomorrow night

However if all actions are in tonight prior to 9pm I will start the day tonight at 10pm est.

Will post in topic if day goes up early!


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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 4:15:31 PM
#75:


All ACTIONS ARE IN! DAY WILL START TONIGHT AT 10Pm

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TheSultanOfSlam
06/22/23 9:59:52 PM
#76:


Everyone went to their rooms for the night after celebrating catching a guilty party.
One of you retired to the Study and poured yourself a drink, put on one of my old pro wrestling documentaries, and started leafing through my old Criminology Text books.yes these are things that I actually have
You heard a commotion going on in the hall way didn't you? You couldn't make out the voices but heard them say I can't beleive that ass hole how dare he be that arrogant and aggressive oh speak of the devil! They must have realized you were awake, they kicked down the door to the Study and there was signs of an obvious struggle. Broken glass on the floor and your body lifeless. I cannot believe it I should have known this would happen to you, you're honest and disliked ain't that so?

Everyone is called to breakfast as Sultan reads this statement. Everyone looks around and noticed Lopen was missing. Everyone rushes to the Study to see the crime scene. Lopen had nothing on him he was an innocent man.

Lopen was eliminated he was:

Lopen: Town Vanilla

Lopen, what can I say about you? Town Vanilla might be enough because town asshole isn't an option. You rub people the wrong way sometimes with your aggressive playstyle, but that's okay! When I think of Lopen I think of how you pick a fight with me in every game regardless of alignment and talking wrestling.

You win when all threats to town are eliminated

Eliminated:
Pregame:Ctes Town Vanilla Chaos Tony Scum Vanilla
D1:Kirby Scum Prostitute
N1:Lopen Town Vanilla

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:01:34 PM
#77:


##vote: Ulti

see you day 3

Igcd is town btw as was lopen obviously.

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Isquen
06/22/23 10:01:42 PM
#78:


Wow, rude (but at least it rules out janitor?)

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:04:05 PM
#79:


Also, just to be nice to you all. I was roleblocked last night. Town lock here.

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:06:57 PM
#82:


UltimaterializerX posted...
lmao never change

There is no way you were blocked over a claimed doctor and IGCD.
You made it obvious you were scum yesterday. Sorry not sorry. Peace out.

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:08:49 PM
#84:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I am literally host confirmed town.
No. Now afk until you are lynched. Your posts are nothing of value.

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PeaceFrog
06/22/23 10:12:37 PM
#85:


Huh. I really, really thought Lopen was scum. I'm going to have to rethink things here... I'm glad you took my #2 instead of my #1 yesterday, Ulti.

Death being alive can go either way from my pov, but Corrik claiming blocked and not going after death immediately feels especially weird to me. Wouldn't you expect the claimed doctor to be blocked?

Red, Kirby, and sbell did not have votes down at the end. Sbell was considering hammering but was scared to. He said this in t2.56:
you can consider my vote on kirby, I do not think that Death is scum. but I don't have a feeling either way on kirby.

If abacus is scum, he deliberately chose to make it harder for Kirby - he could have made it 5/4 instead of 6/3. I think abacus is very likely town, UNLESS Death is also scum. I liked his posts at eod so I'm ok with the A.

Final d1 votals:
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD, Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)

Final votals from before the gladiate (t1.265):
(6) Sbell: IGCD, Red, Lopen, Kirby, Lea, Corrik
(2) Lopen: (Isquen), (Wallz), Peaf, Isquen
(1) Peaf: (Isquen), Lopen
(0) Lea: (IGCD), (Red), (Lopen)
(0) Red: (Kirby), (Lopen)
(0) Wallz: (Isquen)

I feel kind of bad for distracting Lopen yesterday. Oh well. Anyway...

##Vote: red

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:14:36 PM
#86:


PeaceFrog posted...
Huh. I really, really thought Lopen was scum. I'm going to have to rethink things here... I'm glad you took my #2 instead of my #1 yesterday, Ulti.

Death being alive can go either way from my pov, but Corrik claiming blocked and not going after death immediately feels especially weird to me. Wouldn't you expect the claimed doctor to be blocked?

Red, Kirby, and sbell did not have votes down at the end. Sbell was considering hammering but was scared to. He said this in t2.56:

If abacus is scum, he deliberately chose to make it harder for Kirby - he could have made it 5/4 instead of 6/3. I think abacus is very likely town, UNLESS Death is also scum. I liked his posts at eod so I'm ok with the A.

Final d1 votals:
(7) Kirby: Ulti, Death, Peaf, Lea, IGCD, Abacus, Corrik
(3) Death: Lopen, Isquen, Wallz, (Corrik)

Final votals from before the gladiate (t1.265):
(6) Sbell: IGCD, Red, Lopen, Kirby, Lea, Corrik
(2) Lopen: (Isquen), (Wallz), Peaf, Isquen
(1) Peaf: (Isquen), Lopen
(0) Lea: (IGCD), (Red), (Lopen)
(0) Red: (Kirby), (Lopen)
(0) Wallz: (Isquen)

I feel like of bad for distracting Lopen yesterday. Oh well. Anyway...

##Vote: red
I am going to venture to say a busdriver exists. Death is debatable. Ulti is scum for sure though.

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:15:26 PM
#87:


Btw Peaf that's a very shitty analytical post from you. I hold you ti a higher standard. Interesting.

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PeaceFrog
06/22/23 10:17:42 PM
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I don't follow at all. Why would he put kirby up to die, against death (who basically no one except Ulti and lopen suspected iirc)?

Isquen and wallz voted for Death back to back at the start of topic 2. Kirby had 5/7 votes on him at that time, Death had 1. If they are scum there, do they attach themselves to Kirby that much to save him on day 1? Wouldn't be that crazy. But i feel like they wouldn't make it so blatant and so close to one another.

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Leafeon13N
06/22/23 10:19:50 PM
#92:


If town peaf continues to show he has 0 ability in the slightest to read red.
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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:20:07 PM
#93:


PeaceFrog posted...
I don't follow at all. Why would he put kirby up to die, against death (who basically no one except Ulti and lopen suspected iirc)?

Isquen and wallz voted for Death back to back at the start of topic 2. Kirby had 5/7 votes on him at that time, Death had 1. If they are scum there, do they attach themselves to Kirby that much to save him on day 1? Wouldn't be that crazy. But i feel like they wouldn't make it so blatant and so close to one another.
Read Ultis post. All out of his town wheelhouse. Woe is me. I'm so bad at the game. I don't need my power to deal with Corrik. Yadda yadda.

Lots of manipulation. Also, scum gladiators usually have to put up a scummate in their gladiate because town can't be forced to lynch town.

I'm curious actually if he put up 2 scum but death claiming doctor probably makes that unlikely I suppose.

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PeaceFrog
06/22/23 10:20:29 PM
#94:


Corrik7 posted...
Btw Peaf that's a very shitty analytical post from you. I hold you ti a higher standard. Interesting.
Hmm. That's OK. I think it was average, and you're welcome for outing the unofficial pre-wipe votals together. I found them interesting to look at overnight.

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PeaceFrog
06/22/23 10:21:16 PM
#95:


Leafeon13N posted...
If town peaf continues to show he has 0 ability in the slightest to read red.

PeaceFrog posted...
Hmm. That's OK.


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Obellisk
06/22/23 10:22:43 PM
#97:


corrik, ultis not scum. that's just preposterous.

I mean I'm not discounting the possibility of a scum gladiator in theory but I can't see ulti as scum pulling heat off of me. there's just no reason.

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:24:43 PM
#98:


Obellisk posted...
corrik, ultis not scum. that's just preposterous.

I mean I'm not discounting the possibility of a scum gladiator in theory but I can't see ulti as scum pulling heat off of me. there's just no reason.
This will be me teaching you how to play mafia like 4 games in a row now and you not listening in any of them. It's kinda funny.

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PeaceFrog
06/22/23 10:27:50 PM
#99:


Corrik7 posted...
Read Ultis post. All out of his town wheelhouse. Woe is me. I'm so bad at the game. I don't need my power to deal with Corrik. Yadda yadda.

Lots of manipulation. Also, scum gladiators usually have to put up a scummate in their gladiate because town can't be forced to lynch town.

I'm curious actually if he put up 2 scum but death claiming doctor probably makes that unlikely I suppose.
I'm not calling Ulti a lock town. There's a chance, if he gets to final 3, he should be evaluated.
But for day 2? I'm not convinced. I'll have to go back to t1.265 to see if anyone other than me called out Kirby as a suspect though

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Corrik7
06/22/23 10:28:10 PM
#100:


If the busdriver claims, you confirm 3 ppl town.

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