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VFalcone 07/04/23 9:32:29 PM #51:	Euripides posted... Because she's setting records for the biggest concert tour of all time? Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again <cite>VFalcone posted [p:974629347] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>Because she's setting records for the biggest concert tour of all time?</quote>Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/04/23 9:32:34 PM #52:	No_U_L7 posted... do they ever play those in night clubs? As an European, I just have to ask......Do they actually play freaking Taylor Swift songs in night clubs in the US? Nothing against Swift, but teenie bopper stuff isn't exactly what I would describe as club music. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974629350] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>do they ever play those in night clubs?</quote>As an European, I just have to ask......Do they actually play freaking Taylor Swift songs in night clubs in the US? Nothing against Swift, but teenie bopper stuff isn't exactly what I would describe as club music.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/04/23 9:33:48 PM #53:	You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:974629369] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 9:34:10 PM #54:	No_U_L7 posted... do they ever play those in night clubs? sorry i don't think i've ever heard of any of those, thriller sounds vaguely familiar but don't think i've ever actually heard it Ever heard of this thing called 'Halloween'? It is simply not possible to live in a western country and not hear 'Thriller' at minimum a dozen times in October. Fuck off --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974629378] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>do they ever play those in night clubs? sorry i don't think i've ever heard of any of those, thriller sounds vaguely familiar but don't think i've ever actually heard it</quote>Ever heard of this thing called 'Halloween'?It is simply not possible to live in a western country and not hear 'Thriller' at minimum a dozen times in October. Fuck off</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/04/23 9:34:29 PM #55:	VFalcone posted... Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again so you're saying taylor swift is bigger because she can leverage social media properly TheSavageDragon posted... As an European, I just have to ask......Do they actually play freaking Taylor Swift songs in night clubs in the US? Nothing against Swift, but teenie bopper stuff isn't exactly what I would describe as club music. what, taylor swift is constantly going on in night clubs lol --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629386] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted...</cite><quote>Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again </quote>so you're saying taylor swift is bigger because she can leverage social media properlyTheSavageDragon posted...</cite><quote>As an European, I just have to ask......Do they actually play freaking Taylor Swift songs in night clubs in the US? Nothing against Swift, but teenie bopper stuff isn't exactly what I would describe as club music.</quote>what, taylor swift is constantly going on in night clubs lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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No_U_L7 07/04/23 9:35:27 PM #57:	Thud posted... Ever heard of this thing called 'Halloween'? It is simply not possible to live in a western country and not hear 'Thriller' at minimum a dozen times in October. Fuck off i love halloween...but i really don't see any connection/correlation there with the song? the only song i hear every halloween is monster mash --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629405] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Thud posted...</cite><quote>Ever heard of this thing called 'Halloween'?It is simply not possible to live in a western country and not hear 'Thriller' at minimum a dozen times in October. Fuck off</quote>i love halloween...but i really don't see any connection/correlation there with the song? the only song i hear every halloween is monster mash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/04/23 9:35:34 PM #58:	VFalcone posted... Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again I think social media and the internet makes the concept of being a massive celebrity significantly tougher personally. People don't even listen to the same radio anymore. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:974629407] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>Social media exists. That's why. MJ was globally famous without any of that. He was an anomaly that will never happen at that same kind of scale again</quote>I think social media and the internet makes the concept of being a massive celebrity significantly tougher personally. People don't even listen to the same radio anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AgentCoulson 07/04/23 9:35:38 PM #59:	No_U_L7 posted... wait, isn't that an alien ant farm song? Time to disengage. --- I haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>AgentCoulson posted [p:974629408] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>wait, isn't that an alien ant farm song?</quote>Time to disengage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/04/23 9:36:12 PM #60:	metallica846 posted... Probably not because most men dont give a shit about Taylor. what are you basing that off of, because i think that's bullshit from what i see of her tour performances --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629420] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>metallica846 posted...</cite><quote>Probably not because most men dont give a shit about Taylor. </quote>what are you basing that off of, because i think that's bullshit from what i see of her tour performances</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/04/23 9:36:41 PM #61:	AgentCoulson posted... Time to disengage. It's been obvious he's trolling from the very first post in this topic. Hell, as a general rule, don't engage him at all. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974629429] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>AgentCoulson posted... </cite><quote>Time to disengage.</quote>It's been obvious he's trolling from the very first post in this topic. Hell, as a general rule, don't engage him at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 9:38:19 PM #62:	No_U_L7 posted... i love halloween...but i really don't see any connection/correlation there with the song? the only song i hear every halloween is monster mash This. This is why everyone hates you. --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974629456] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>i love halloween...but i really don't see any connection/correlation there with the song? the only song i hear every halloween is monster mash</quote>This. This is why everyone hates you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/04/23 9:40:06 PM #63:	TheSavageDragon posted... It's been obvious he's trolling from the very first post in this topic. Hell, as a general rule, don't engage him at all. i don't know what to tell you. this is my music breakdown: taylor swift-40% olivia rodrigo-25% Dua lipa-10% Billie eilish-5% Misc Rock (Nine inch nails, linkin park, muse, avenge sevenfold etc)-15% Misc Pop (katy perry, kesha, lady gaga etc)-5% --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629490] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>TheSavageDragon posted...</cite><quote>It's been obvious he's trolling from the very first post in this topic. Hell, as a general rule, don't engage him at all.</quote>i don't know what to tell you. this is my music breakdown:taylor swift-40%olivia rodrigo-25%Dua lipa-10%Billie eilish-5%Misc Rock (Nine inch nails, linkin park, muse, avenge sevenfold etc)-15%Misc Pop (katy perry, kesha, lady gaga etc)-5%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/04/23 9:40:51 PM #64:	Thud posted... This. This is why everyone hates you. in that case i really don't understand why everyone hates me, i literally have no idea what that post is trying to say --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629500] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Thud posted...</cite><quote>This. This is why everyone hates you. </quote>in that case i really don't understand why everyone hates me, i literally have no idea what that post is trying to say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 07/04/23 9:48:03 PM #65:	K181 posted... You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him. This guy gets it 100% <cite>VFalcone posted [p:974629615] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite><quote>You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him.</quote>This guy gets it 100%</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 9:49:46 PM #66:	No_U_L7 posted... in that case i really don't understand why everyone hates me, i literally have no idea what that post is trying to say The recent bit people are doing pretending to be utterly fucking clueless and "sO cOnFuSeD". I don't get it, but you do you --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974629646] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>in that case i really don't understand why everyone hates me, i literally have no idea what that post is trying to say</quote>The recent bit people are doing pretending to be utterly fucking clueless and "sO cOnFuSeD". I don't get it, but you do you</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
No_U_L7 07/04/23 10:01:54 PM #67:	Thud posted... The recent bit people are doing pretending to be utterly fucking clueless and "sO cOnFuSeD". I don't get it, but you do you Dude you literally listed 2 random non-related things and expected everyone in the world to understand the correlation that probably only exists in your head --- http://i.imgur.com/QPgN9 <cite>No_U_L7 posted [p:974629840] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Thud posted...</cite><quote>The recent bit people are doing pretending to be utterly fucking clueless and "sO cOnFuSeD". I don't get it, but you do you</quote>Dude you literally listed 2 random non-related things and expected everyone in the world to understand the correlation that probably only exists in your head</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
psideresider 07/04/23 10:02:08 PM #68:	They had to take people out on stretchers when MJ performed. People would go that batshit crazy over the guy. Doubt that happens at a Swift concert. --- "Running twice as fast to stay in the same place" -Faith No More <cite>psideresider posted [p:974629846] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>They had to take people out on stretchers when MJ performed. People would go that batshit crazy over the guy. Doubt that happens at a Swift concert.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CreekCo 07/04/23 10:03:18 PM #69:	Lol no shes not even close and never will be --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) <cite>CreekCo posted [p:974629865] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Lol no shes not even close and never will be </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 10:04:47 PM #70:	No_U_L7 posted... Dude you literally listed 2 random non-related things and expected everyone in the world to understand the correlation that probably only exists in your head Yes, I am clearly the only person in the world who associates Thriller with Halloween. I repeat: Thud posted... This. This is why everyone hates you. --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974629875] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>Dude you literally listed 2 random non-related things and expected everyone in the world to understand the correlation that probably only exists in your head</quote>Yes, I am clearly the only person in the world who associates Thriller with Halloween. I repeat:Thud posted... </cite><quote>This. This is why everyone hates you.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
--Zero- 07/04/23 10:14:25 PM #71:	Taylor Swifts fans are mainly girls of various ages. Michaels Jackson fans were both men and women of various ages. Taylor Swift has a handful of really catchy songs and is a really good business woman utilizing social media to keep herself popular. Michael Jackson is on another level. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/id/ChronoZero/#sort=order <cite>--Zero- posted [p:974630031] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor Swifts fans are mainly girls of various ages. Michaels Jackson fans were both men and women of various ages. Taylor Swift has a handful of really catchy songs and is a really good business woman utilizing social media to keep herself popular. Michael Jackson is on another level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/04/23 10:17:33 PM #72:	Taylor Swift isn't selling out stadiums around the globe for a limited demographic. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:974630093] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor Swift isn't selling out stadiums around the globe for a limited demographic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nunyobidness 07/04/23 10:30:07 PM #73:	K181 posted... You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him. I remember when he released a new Music video it was appointment television everywhere that had it available. Everyone knew when and where it was debuting. The man was mobbed everywhere he went. I don't think any celebrity can be at that level he reached. It's not a slam on Swift or any current celebrity. I think the world has changed. We have so much more access to celebrities now. Granted most of it is curated PR bullshit, it's still more than you would back then. The lack of access created a mystique that's hard to match for celeb's now. <cite>Nunyobidness posted [p:974630299] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>K181 posted... </cite><quote>You can't really understate the cultural phenomenon Michael Jackson was globally in the 80s and early 90s. He was probably the biggest celebrity ever up to that point and I don't think anyone's come close to surpassing him.</quote>I remember when he released a new Music video it was appointment television everywhere that had it available. Everyone knew when and where it was debuting. The man was mobbed everywhere he went. I don't think any celebrity can be at that level he reached. It's not a slam on Swift or any current celebrity. I think the world has changed. We have so much more access to celebrities now. Granted most of it is curated PR bullshit, it's still more than you would back then. The lack of access created a mystique that's hard to match for celeb's now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 07/04/23 10:43:30 PM #74:	Overall comparing the middle of a career to a complete one is never going to be a fair comparison. But I think some people in this topic are really ignorant to how popular Swift actually is. Her tickets for her Eras tour went on sale last week in Australia. There were constant articles about it. Constant news stories on TV about it. My wife and I have been to every tour since Fearless. Easy to get multiple tickets for every previous tour. This was different. I have never had such a hard time trying to buy something. I was unable to get a ticket at all. My wife was only able to get nosebleed seats. People in my office were trying. People everywhere seemed to be trying. About half the people we know werencompletely unsuccessful. Getting a PS5 at launch was piss easy in comparison. She added two new stadium shows and it still wasn't enough. People were paying premium rip off prices where it's bundled with other shit like hotels just so they could go. I have outright never seen anything like it. It's not just here either. Apparently it's a competition between millions to get a ticket for her Singapore shows. Thousands of people who failed getting tickets in the US are rocking up to the carpark and listening to the show from there. A Canadian politician got upset the tour isn't going to Canada due to the tourism it brings. There very much is an argument that MJ was unique for his era and can't be replicated. But Swift is very much the phenomenon for today. This is our generations top megastar and those same things are going to be said about her in the future. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:974630518] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Overall comparing the middle of a career to a complete one is never going to be a fair comparison. But I think some people in this topic are really ignorant to how popular Swift actually is. Her tickets for her Eras tour went on sale last week in Australia. There were constant articles about it. Constant news stories on TV about it. My wife and I have been to every tour since Fearless. Easy to get multiple tickets for every previous tour. This was different. I have never had such a hard time trying to buy something. I was unable to get a ticket at all. My wife was only able to get nosebleed seats. People in my office were trying. People everywhere seemed to be trying. About half the people we know werencompletely unsuccessful. Getting a PS5 at launch was piss easy in comparison. She added two new stadium shows and it still wasn't enough. People were paying premium rip off prices where it's bundled with other shit like hotels just so they could go. I have outright never seen anything like it. It's not just here either. Apparently it's a competition between millions to get a ticket for her Singapore shows. Thousands of people who failed getting tickets in the US are rocking up to the carpark and listening to the show from there. A Canadian politician got upset the tour isn't going to Canada due to the tourism it brings. There very much is an argument that MJ was unique for his era and can't be replicated. But Swift is very much the phenomenon for today. This is our generations top megastar and those same things are going to be said about her in the future. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 07/04/23 10:45:22 PM #75:	Taylor Swift has quantity but no quality. --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:974630550] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor Swift has quantity but no quality.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/04/23 10:45:44 PM #76:	deoxxys posted... I don't know if Taylor Swift has the star power of Michael Jackson She's got more TBH. I've never seen MJ fans get so fucking vicious if you said something bad about him. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:974630557] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I don't know if Taylor Swift has the star power of Michael Jackson</quote>She's got more TBH. I've never seen MJ fans get so fucking vicious if you said something bad about him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 10:46:57 PM #77:	LordMarshal posted... Taylor Swift has quantity but no quality. Her early stuff was fantastic and I'm liking the new album, but the "middle" of her career was pretty much filler with the occasional banger --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974630574] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>LordMarshal posted... </cite><quote>Taylor Swift has quantity but no quality.</quote>Her early stuff was fantastic and I'm liking the new album, but the "middle" of her career was pretty much filler with the occasional banger</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/04/23 10:48:34 PM #78:	Thud posted... Her early stuff was fantastic and I'm liking the new album, but the "middle" of her career was pretty much filler with the occasional banger 1989 is in "the middle" and is arguably her best album --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:974630604] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Thud posted... </cite><quote>Her early stuff was fantastic and I'm liking the new album, but the "middle" of her career was pretty much filler with the occasional banger</quote>1989 is in "the middle" and is arguably her best album</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 07/04/23 10:50:50 PM #79:	No way. That guy was on his own tier list, so this is not an insult. I like Taylor. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:974630640] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No way.That guy was on his own tier list, so this is not an insult. I like Taylor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 07/04/23 10:53:33 PM #80:	Tyranthraxus posted... She's got more TBH. If we go by numbers WW. That doesn't square. Mind you, I'm not even a big fan of MJ either. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:974630682] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>She's got more TBH.</quote>If we go by numbers WW. That doesn't square.Mind you, I'm not even a big fan of MJ either.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beveren_Rabbit 07/04/23 10:54:22 PM #81:	yes. she's a global name and everyone knows her songs and dances --- flops <cite>Beveren_Rabbit posted [p:974630693] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>yes. she's a global name and everyone knows her songs and dances</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 07/04/23 11:01:46 PM #82:	Taylor Swift is just another pop singer, Jackson was the fucking king. Therefore: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AAUJMyAADNOK.jpg --- Oda break tracker 2022- 13 (3) \| THE Ohio State:11-1 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 6-9 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:974630810] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor Swift is just another pop singer, Jackson was the fucking king. Therefore:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/6/AAUJMyAADNOK.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 11:05:06 PM #83:	Euripides posted... 1989 is in "the middle" and is arguably her best album It's not a bad album, but imo it was very "safe" and formulaic. The songs were catchy, yes, but idk that they had real staying power. Personally I think Red was her strongest album but I do prefer her songs before she went full pop --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974630880] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>1989 is in "the middle" and is arguably her best album</quote>It's not a bad album, but imo it was very "safe" and formulaic. The songs were catchy, yes, but idk that they had real staying power. Personally I think Red was her strongest album but I do prefer her songs before she went full pop</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 07/04/23 11:05:17 PM #84:	I guess the only way we'll truly be able to tell is if in a few decades there are thousands of people across the globe making a living out of impersonating Swift like they do Elvis and MJ. <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974630884] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>I guess the only way we'll truly be able to tell is if in a few decades there are thousands of people across the globe making a living out of impersonating Swift like they do Elvis and MJ.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 07/04/23 11:05:36 PM #85:	voldothegr8 posted... Taylor Swift is just another pop singer Oh come on... you know that's not true. Even if you don't like her. She isn't just "another" run of the mill pop singer. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:974630889] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite><quote>Taylor Swift is just another pop singer</quote>Oh come on... you know that's not true. Even if you don't like her. She isn't just "another" run of the mill pop singer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Euripides 07/04/23 11:07:56 PM #86:	Thud posted... It's not a bad album, but imo it was very "safe" and formulaic. The songs were catchy, yes, but idk that they had real staying power. Personally I think Red was her strongest album but I do prefer her songs before she went full pop No staying power? Blank Space, Shake it Off, Style, Welcome to New York, Bad Blood.... --- people who car cars a whip are so cringe <cite>Euripides posted [p:974630930] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Thud posted... </cite><quote>It's not a bad album, but imo it was very "safe" and formulaic. The songs were catchy, yes, but idk that they had real staying power. Personally I think Red was her strongest album but I do prefer her songs before she went full pop</quote>No staying power? Blank Space, Shake it Off, Style, Welcome to New York, Bad Blood....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 07/04/23 11:09:09 PM #87:	No_U_L7 posted... so taylor has 3x as many listeners...sounds like that settles the argument Lol it doesn't Taylor wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Michael tbh He changed the entire game of pop music. Hes literally the guy that made albums a viable release strategy again. He crossed music over the racial barriers and made it possible to completely reinvent yourself as an artist and remain relevant. He dominated very type of career a musician could even have. Band, solo act, promotional, dancing, philanthropy... all of it --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:974630956] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>No_U_L7 posted... </cite><quote>so taylor has 3x as many listeners...sounds like that settles the argument </quote>Lol it doesn'tTaylor wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for Michael tbh He changed the entire game of pop music. Hes literally the guy that made albums a viable release strategy again. He crossed music over the racial barriers and made it possible to completely reinvent yourself as an artist and remain relevant. He dominated very type of career a musician could even have. Band, solo act, promotional, dancing, philanthropy... all of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thud 07/04/23 11:18:48 PM #88:	Euripides posted... No staying power? Blank Space, Shake it Off, Style, Welcome to New York, Bad Blood.... Maybe I'm just wording it poorly. All those songs are OK every now and then but get real old real quick for me. Good, but safe generic pop Red, Sparks Fly, The Last Time, Love Story, Mine were much more lyrically complex and instrument heavy and walked the perfect line of country and pop. --- Happy birthday to the GROUND! <cite>Thud posted [p:974631132] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Euripides posted... </cite><quote>No staying power? Blank Space, Shake it Off, Style, Welcome to New York, Bad Blood....</quote>Maybe I'm just wording it poorly. All those songs are OK every now and then but get real old real quick for me. Good, but safe generic popRed, Sparks Fly, The Last Time, Love Story, Mine were much more lyrically complex and instrument heavy and walked the perfect line of country and pop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 07/04/23 11:35:24 PM #89:	Tyranthraxus posted... She's got more TBH. I've never seen MJ fans get so fucking vicious if you said something bad about him. MJ fans didn't/don't have to. They already know the truth. <cite>VFalcone posted [p:974631378] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>She's got more TBH. I've never seen MJ fans get so fucking vicious if you said something bad about him.</quote>MJ fans didn't/don't have to. They already know the truth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
doomcrusader 07/04/23 11:37:01 PM #90:	Taylor is good but not culture-changing the way Elvis, Beatles, and MJ were. She might be the closest to that level since MJ but not quite there. --- http://i.imgur.com/tqMGw.png http://i.imgur.com/IHbuM.jpg <cite>doomcrusader posted [p:974631400] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor is good but not culture-changing the way Elvis, Beatles, and MJ were. She might be the closest to that level since MJ but not quite there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 07/04/23 11:39:15 PM #91:	VFalcone posted... MJ fans didn't/don't have to. They already know the truth. Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:974631432] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>MJ fans didn't/don't have to. They already know the truth.</quote>Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VFalcone 07/04/23 11:40:53 PM #92:	lilORANG posted... Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator This is proof that even when innocence is proven and/or guilt was never proven, the rumor that guilt was proven will never die <cite>VFalcone posted [p:974631458] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite><quote>Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator</quote>This is proof that even when innocence is proven and/or guilt was never proven, the rumor that guilt was proven will never die</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 07/04/23 11:41:47 PM #93:	lilORANG posted... Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator Was he? Thought that wasn't actually proven. <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:974631472] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite><quote>Or it's just a lot harder to defend him nowadays that we all know he was a predator</quote>Was he? Thought that wasn't actually proven. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 07/04/23 11:46:09 PM #94:	VFalcone posted... This is proof that even when innocence is proven and/or guilt was never proven, the rumor that guilt was proven will never die It's proof that proof in court does not equal proof in fact. --- Let's all please just get along. <cite>lilORANG posted [p:974631545] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>VFalcone posted... </cite><quote>This is proof that even when innocence is proven and/or guilt was never proven, the rumor that guilt was proven will never die</quote>It's proof that proof in court does not equal proof in fact. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EthanSilver 07/04/23 11:47:32 PM #95:	lilORANG posted... It's proof that proof in court does not equal proof in fact. Huh? Can you cite some credible sources? <cite>EthanSilver posted [p:974631574] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>lilORANG posted... </cite><quote>It's proof that proof in court does not equal proof in fact.</quote>Huh? Can you cite some credible sources?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CellBlock7 07/05/23 12:16:37 AM #96:	Michael Jackson had fans passing out simply by standing on stage. His star power has yet to be matched. --- A Medicore Time with Tom & Dan BDM 4 Life <cite>CellBlock7 posted [p:974631983] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Michael Jackson had fans passing out simply by standing on stage. His star power has yet to be matched. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 07/05/23 12:29:16 AM #97:	you can play many different Michael Jackson songs worldwide and ppl will get out and dance and know the lyrics. Multiple songs. How many Taylor swift songs can you do that with? --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:974632144] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>you can play many different Michael Jackson songs worldwide and ppl will get out and dance and know the lyrics. Multiple songs. How many Taylor swift songs can you do that with? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Despised 07/05/23 12:34:33 AM #98:	I know this doesnt matter, but I couldnt name a single Taylor swift song --- instagig <cite>Despised posted [p:974632217] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>I know this doesnt matter, but I couldnt name a single Taylor swift song</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 07/05/23 12:38:17 AM #99:	Taylor Swift is talented and famous MJ was a legend, a weirdo, a musical genius, had a ton of drama, and changed pop music forever. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:974632268] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Taylor Swift is talented and famousMJ was a legend, a weirdo, a musical genius, had a ton of drama, and changed pop music forever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 07/05/23 12:49:38 AM #100:	Maybe in the Gen Z and later demographic, but otherwise no I don't see it --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:974632385] in Is Taylor ... [t:80499383]...</cite> <quote>Maybe in the Gen Z and later demographic, but otherwise no I don't see it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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