Board 8 > Do you press the heart button or the skull button?

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NeatoAnAccount 08/15/23 6:43:51 PM #1:	hart or skul - Results (15 votes) Heart button. Red in the original 46.67% (7 votes) 7 Skull button. Red in the original 6.67% (1 vote) 1 Heart button. Blue in the original 40% (6 votes) 6 Skull button. Blue in the original 6.67% (1 vote) 1 Every person on earth must press 1 of 2 buttons If you press the heart button, nothing happens to you. If you press the skull button you die unless >50% of the population presses the skull button, in which case nothing happens to you. What do you press? And what did you press in the last topic (linked below for convenience)? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80536872 --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975472001] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote> hart or skul - Results (15 votes) Heart button. Red in the original 46.67% (7 votes) 7 Skull button. Red in the original 6.67% (1 vote) 1 Heart button. Blue in the original 40% (6 votes) 6 Skull button. Blue in the original 6.67% (1 vote) 1 Show Voting Form Every person on earth must press 1 of 2 buttonsIf you press the heart button, nothing happens to you.If you press the skull button you die unless >50% of the population presses the skull button, in which case nothing happens to you.What do you press? And what did you press in the last topic (linked below for convenience)?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80536872 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chaeix 08/15/23 6:47:34 PM #2:	I voted heart but blue last time, noting I had not read the topic when I voted blue last time i still regret none of my choices --- we're all buds~jc~ <DeathChicken> you are my hero for being the first person to cite National Geographic in Mercs <cite>Chaeix posted [p:975472065] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>I voted heart but blue last time, noting I had not read the topic when I voted blue last timei still regret none of my choices </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 08/15/23 6:48:29 PM #3:	https://youtu.be/0XMrfDrbFRk --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:975472084] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/0XMrfDrbFRk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/15/23 6:50:55 PM #4:	removing the culpability factor definitely makes this an easier thought experiment (heart blue) --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975472126] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>removing the culpability factor definitely makes this an easier thought experiment(heart blue) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/15/23 6:51:02 PM #5:	FFDragon posted... https://youtu.be/0XMrfDrbFRk lol found the skull voter --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975472130] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>FFDragon posted... </cite><quote>https://youtu.be/0XMrfDrbFRk</quote>lol found the skull voter </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 08/15/23 6:53:13 PM #6:	Heart, blue (though technically marked as a red voter due to the options not matching at the time...) --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. https://www.instagram.com/horror_obscurities/ <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:975472178] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Heart, blue (though technically marked as a red voter due to the options not matching at the time...) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Eagle 08/15/23 7:02:07 PM #7:	Heart. Never voted in the original topic --- "Life's a game. It's meant to be played." "Amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic." <cite>Johnny_Eagle posted [p:975472350] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Heart. Never voted in the original topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/15/23 8:54:21 PM #8:	Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button? --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975474404] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnk 08/15/23 8:57:30 PM #9:	NeatoAnAccount posted... Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button? Yes, how information is presented to people will affect the way they react to it. I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone. --- Change is weird. <cite>mnk posted [p:975474464] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button?</quote>Yes, how information is presented to people will affect the way they react to it. I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 08/15/23 9:12:46 PM #10:	mnk posted... Yes --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. https://www.instagram.com/horror_obscurities/ <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:975474774] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>mnk posted... </cite><quote>Yes</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 08/15/23 9:12:55 PM #11:	Heart, Red --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:975474782] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Heart, Red </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 08/15/23 9:42:04 PM #12:	Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ngDYFOGXw --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975475279] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7ngDYFOGXw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/15/23 10:02:28 PM #13:	NeatoAnAccount posted... Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button? "basically" is doing a lot of work in this sentence --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975475648] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>Followup question: do y'all realize that the skull button is basically the blue button, and the heart button is basically the red button?</quote>"basically" is doing a lot of work in this sentence </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/15/23 10:22:29 PM #14:	Kenri posted... "basically" is doing a lot of work in this sentence What do you mean? --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975475967] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>"basically" is doing a lot of work in this sentence</quote>What do you mean? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hbthebattle 08/15/23 10:48:29 PM #15:	The difference is the first question draws attention to the fact that the red button kills people. This one doesn't. Functionally they're the same, but the framing means people feel less directly culpable. --- :) <cite>Hbthebattle posted [p:975476342] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>The difference is the first question draws attention to the fact that the red button kills people. This one doesn't. Functionally they're the same, but the framing means people feel less directly culpable. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/15/23 11:01:58 PM #16:	It's the same question but this one doesn't require you to think about how the rules work. "Basically" yeah. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975476536] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>It's the same question but this one doesn't require you to think about how the rules work. "Basically" yeah. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fiop 08/15/23 11:31:51 PM #17:	How the question is framed will likely change the behavior for many of the 8 billion people doing this so knowing this, switching from blue to heart can make sense, even if the parameters are the same. --- "so is my word...It will not return to me empty, but will accomplish what I desire and achieve the purpose for which I sent it." - Isaiah 55:11 <cite>Fiop posted [p:975476883] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>How the question is framed will likely change the behavior for many of the 8 billion people doing this so knowing this, switching from blue to heart can make sense, even if the parameters are the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 12:53:00 AM #18:	NeatoAnAccount posted... What do you mean? You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975477911] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>What do you mean?</quote>You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 08/16/23 12:54:44 AM #19:	Clearly you should press both buttons, red to ensure you don't die and blue to ensure everyone else doesn't --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975477928] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Clearly you should press both buttons, red to ensure you don't die and blue to ensure everyone else doesn't </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueCrystalTear 08/16/23 12:57:04 AM #20:	So this confirms what the right answer is, doesn't it? --- Come check out my movie watchthrough topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80167031 <cite>BlueCrystalTear posted [p:975477950] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>So this confirms what the right answer is, doesn't it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/16/23 12:59:32 AM #21:	Kenri posted... You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same. It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the other button rather than "they die" on the red one. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975477981] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same.</quote>It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the other button rather than "they die" on the red one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/16/23 1:00:55 AM #22:	Like the only thing that changes is people aren't going to think they're doing some noble thing and press the blue button this time The mechanics are exactly the same though. There just isn't a trap for dumb people in this one. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975478001] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Like the only thing that changes is people aren't going to think they're doing some noble thing and press the blue button this timeThe mechanics are exactly the same though. There just isn't a trap for dumb people in this one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 08/16/23 1:06:18 AM #23:	Lopen posted... It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the blue button rather than "they die" on the red one. Lopen posted... Like the only thing that changes is people aren't going to think they're doing some noble thing and press the blue button this time The mechanics are exactly the same though. There just isn't a trap for dumb people in this one. That certainly is a take. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:975478076] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the blue button rather than "they die" on the red one.</quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>Like the only thing that changes is people aren't going to think they're doing some noble thing and press the blue button this timeThe mechanics are exactly the same though. There just isn't a trap for dumb people in this one.</quote>That certainly is a take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 1:14:58 AM #24:	Lopen posted... It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the blue button rather than "they die" on the red one. this is a pretty big difference my dude, i don't know what to tell you --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975478152] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Lopen posted... </cite><quote>It's literally the same button. The description just says "you die" on the blue button rather than "they die" on the red one.</quote>this is a pretty big difference my dude, i don't know what to tell you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/16/23 1:16:39 AM #25:	It is not "a take" Map the results of every combination of people pushing each button red to heart blue to skull and the results are going to be identical with each exercise if people push them identically. This is undeniable The psychology is different because people are not going to digest the meaning of the buttons the same so yes it's going to have different numbers of people choosing blue vs skull but yeah This is red and blue with the answer key in front of you. "Basically" the same is pretty accurate. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975478168] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>It is not "a take"Map the results of every combination of people pushing each button red to heart blue to skull and the results are going to be identical with each exercise if people push them identically. This is undeniableThe psychology is different because people are not going to digest the meaning of the buttons the same so yes it's going to have different numbers of people choosing blue vs skull but yeahThis is red and blue with the answer key in front of you. "Basically" the same is pretty accurate. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/16/23 1:26:01 AM #26:	The funny thing is with these buttons the kids and mentally ill that everyone was so gung ho about saving last time are no longer being considered to try to save even though they'd probably be pushing the skull sometimes here too --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975478246] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is with these buttons the kids and mentally ill that everyone was so gung ho about saving last time are no longer being considered to try to save even though they'd probably be pushing the skull sometimes here too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robazoid 08/16/23 1:33:06 AM #27:	Kid me absolutely would've pushed the skull button because skulls are cooler than hearts --- R.O.B.A.Z.O.I.D <cite>Robazoid posted [p:975478303] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kid me absolutely would've pushed the skull button because skulls are cooler than hearts </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 08/16/23 1:33:47 AM #28:	Some people in the other topic were pretty gung-ho about everyone who pushes blue deserving death --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:975478311] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Some people in the other topic were pretty gung-ho about everyone who pushes blue deserving death </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/16/23 1:41:08 AM #29:	Kenri posted... You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same. Not really. It's a matter of perspective which button actually kills people. Lots of the red voters were saying that the blue button is the suicide button, and I don't fault them for that perspective even though I disagree. If the red button killed people last time, the heart button kills people this time. And if the blue button killed people last time, the skull button kills people this time. I picked those symbols and worded the question this way to prime you to think of the skull button as the death button even though the blue button is functionally the same. Again, I'm blue/heart. --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975478380] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>You've changed which button contains the mechanism that can potentially kill people, which is a big difference to then say the buttons are "basically" the same.</quote>Not really. It's a matter of perspective which button actually kills people. Lots of the red voters were saying that the blue button is the suicide button, and I don't fault them for that perspective even though I disagree.If the red button killed people last time, the heart button kills people this time. And if the blue button killed people last time, the skull button kills people this time. I picked those symbols and worded the question this way to prime you to think of the skull button as the death button even though the blue button is functionally the same.Again, I'm blue/heart. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 2:06:38 AM #30:	NeatoAnAccount posted... Not really. It's a matter of perspective which button actually kills people. If this was your intent you definitely phrased the premise poorly because "If you press the skull button you die" is pretty unambiguous! NeatoAnAccount posted... Lots of the red voters were saying that the blue button is the suicide button, and I don't fault them for that perspective even though I disagree. In the same way one might say that it's suicide to provoke someone pointing a gun at you, yeah. Again, in the other scenario, people dying is listed under the effects of pushing the red button, so it's pretty unambiguous. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975478589] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>Not really. It's a matter of perspective which button actually kills people.</quote>If this was your intent you definitely phrased the premise poorly because "If you press the skull button you die" is pretty unambiguous!NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>Lots of the red voters were saying that the blue button is the suicide button, and I don't fault them for that perspective even though I disagree.</quote>In the same way one might say that it's suicide to provoke someone pointing a gun at you, yeah. Again, in the other scenario, people dying is listed under the effects of pushing the red button, so it's pretty unambiguous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/16/23 2:12:37 AM #31:	Borrowing the wording from the original topic: If >=50% of the population pushes the heart button, everyone who pushed the skull button dies If >50% of the population pushes the skull button, no one dies It's still the same thing, just phrased differently. --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975478630] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Borrowing the wording from the original topic:If >=50% of the population pushes the heart button, everyone who pushed the skull button diesIf >50% of the population pushes the skull button, no one diesIt's still the same thing, just phrased differently. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 2:30:06 AM #32:	Look, I understand your point, I just fully do not accept that there's no difference between dying and killing even if both lead to the exact same outcome. This shouldn't be a controversial position! --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975478747] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Look, I understand your point, I just fully do not accept that there's no difference between dying and killing even if both lead to the exact same outcome. This shouldn't be a controversial position! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xuxon 08/16/23 3:03:15 AM #33:	The other topic doesn't say killing, it also just says "dies." But there is still a difference here, it's that you're being told not to press the skull button, so of course it can't reach 50%. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxkdr0uNc91qlu5jao1_r1_400.gif <cite>Xuxon posted [p:975478987] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>The other topic doesn't say killing, it also just says "dies." But there is still a difference here, it's that you're being told not to press the skull button, so of course it can't reach 50%. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 3:35:29 AM #34:	Xuxon posted... The other topic doesn't say killing, it also just says "dies." https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/4/AAC4lPAADngU.jpg --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975479226] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Xuxon posted... </cite><quote>The other topic doesn't say killing, it also just says "dies."</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/4/AAC4lPAADngU.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/16/23 9:20:04 AM #35:	Fiop posted... How the question is framed will likely change the behavior for many of the 8 billion people doing this so knowing this, switching from blue to heart can make sense, even if the parameters are the same. But why does framing matter so much here? Because when done online with 0 stakes, the entire point of the question is virtue signaling. If you did it in real life with actual lives on the line (and it's fully anonymous), where virtue signaling isn't a consideration at all, then question framing won't change anything. As long as it's clear which one lets you live, people will press it in similar proportion to this topic's poll. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975482043] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Fiop posted... </cite><quote>How the question is framed will likely change the behavior for many of the 8 billion people doing this so knowing this, switching from blue to heart can make sense, even if the parameters are the same.</quote>But why does framing matter so much here?Because when done online with 0 stakes, the entire point of the question is virtue signaling.If you did it in real life with actual lives on the line (and it's fully anonymous), where virtue signaling isn't a consideration at all, then question framing won't change anything. As long as it's clear which one lets you live, people will press it in similar proportion to this topic's poll. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/16/23 9:25:43 AM #36:	Kenri posted... Look, I understand your point, I just fully do not accept that there's no difference between dying and killing even if both lead to the exact same outcome. This shouldn't be a controversial position! The only person doing any kind of killing in these decisions is the mastermind. The blue psychos from the last topic (plus Lopen) are the only ones trying to blame the reds for deaths, for some reason. (The reason is obvious - it greatly strengthens the virtue of pressing blue.) But this topic makes it clear how insane it is to blame the reds for the deaths even a little bit. And that the blues/skulls aren't at fault either - they just don't understand the situation and made a grave mistake. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975482118] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>Look, I understand your point, I just fully do not accept that there's no difference between dying and killing even if both lead to the exact same outcome. This shouldn't be a controversial position!</quote>The only person doing any kind of killing in these decisions is the mastermind.The blue psychos from the last topic (plus Lopen) are the only ones trying to blame the reds for deaths, for some reason. (The reason is obvious - it greatly strengthens the virtue of pressing blue.) But this topic makes it clear how insane it is to blame the reds for the deaths even a little bit. And that the blues/skulls aren't at fault either - they just don't understand the situation and made a grave mistake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 08/16/23 10:12:55 AM #37:	I mean I'm not really trying to blame reds for their deaths just saying that reds, even if responsible, would have to be insane to feel guilt over it and will do worse things than cause 1/10 or 1/5 of a death many times in their lives. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:975482824] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>I mean I'm not really trying to blame reds for their deaths just saying that reds, even if responsible, would have to be insane to feel guilt over it and will do worse things than cause 1/10 or 1/5 of a death many times in their lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Young_Link 08/16/23 10:23:38 AM #38:	Heart Blue --- https://imgur.com/gOGzcN4 <cite>Dark_Young_Link posted [p:975482993] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>HeartBlue </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 08/16/23 10:56:32 AM #39:	I'm a goth so I'm drawn to the button that has a skull on it out of morbid curiosity (get it, morbid curiosity? HA), but I understand that the skull is the blue button from the other topic and last time I picked red. --- That girl is poison... Never trust a big butt and smile :> <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:975483529] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>I'm a goth so I'm drawn to the button that has a skull on it out of morbid curiosity (get it, morbid curiosity? HA), but I understand that the skull is the blue button from the other topic and last time I picked red. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 08/16/23 12:22:24 PM #40:	Something interesting: reds are overrepresented in this topic. The original was close to 50/50 but here "red in the original" is close to 60%. Why do y'all think that is? On Twitter that seemed to be true as well, reds would answer more questions about this subject than blues would. --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:975485036] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Something interesting: reds are overrepresented in this topic. The original was close to 50/50 but here "red in the original" is close to 60%. Why do y'all think that is?On Twitter that seemed to be true as well, reds would answer more questions about this subject than blues would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 08/16/23 12:26:53 PM #41:	Because the "blues" are the people who put less overall thought into the situation so they care less about further thought/discussion. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:975485126] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Because the "blues" are the people who put less overall thought into the situation so they care less about further thought/discussion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turducken 08/16/23 12:32:37 PM #42:	NeatoAnAccount posted... Every person on earth must press 1 of 2 buttons What happens if I don't? --- THE FIGHT WILL CONTINUE, AS LONG AS THE AMERICA INSIDE MY HEART IS STILL ALIVE <cite>Turducken posted [p:975485247] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted...</cite><quote>Every person on earth must press 1 of 2 buttons</quote>What happens if I don't? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/16/23 12:33:23 PM #43:	some % of blues have committed suicide between this and the previous poll --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975485259] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>some % of blues have committed suicide between this and the previous poll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
catesdb 08/16/23 12:34:48 PM #44:	the reds are riled up about whether or not they need to justify murder and are more likely to engage --- Pronouns - she/her FFXIV - Ultros [Primal] - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/39263879/ <cite>catesdb posted [p:975485287] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>the reds are riled up about whether or not they need to justify murder and are more likely to engage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 12:43:45 PM #45:	foolm0r0n posted... The only person doing any kind of killing in these decisions is the mastermind. The blue psychos from the last topic (plus Lopen) are the only ones trying to blame the reds for deaths, for some reason. (The reason is obvious - it greatly strengthens the virtue of pressing blue.) But this topic makes it clear how insane it is to blame the reds for the deaths even a little bit. And that the blues/skulls aren't at fault either - they just don't understand the situation and made a grave mistake. I don't know why you keep trying to bring a 'mastermind' into this (actually, I do know why) but that's not actually part of the premise so of course it changes the premise when you add it. You are missing the point just as much as the "I would simply kill the villain who keeps tying people to trolley tracks" people are. Just something to think about. This is the only time I'm going to respond to you about this until you drop your bizarre and annoying virtue signaling claim; just letting you know in case you start wondering if I blocked you or something. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975485454] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>The only person doing any kind of killing in these decisions is the mastermind.The blue psychos from the last topic (plus Lopen) are the only ones trying to blame the reds for deaths, for some reason. (The reason is obvious - it greatly strengthens the virtue of pressing blue.) But this topic makes it clear how insane it is to blame the reds for the deaths even a little bit. And that the blues/skulls aren't at fault either - they just don't understand the situation and made a grave mistake.</quote>I don't know why you keep trying to bring a 'mastermind' into this (actually, I do know why) but that's not actually part of the premise so of course it changes the premise when you add it. You are missing the point just as much as the "I would simply kill the villain who keeps tying people to trolley tracks" people are. Just something to think about.This is the only time I'm going to respond to you about this until you drop your bizarre and annoying virtue signaling claim; just letting you know in case you start wondering if I blocked you or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tcaz2 08/16/23 1:11:40 PM #46:	Kenri posted... I don't know why you keep trying to bring a 'mastermind' into this (actually, I do know why) but that's not actually part of the premise so of course it changes the premise when you add it. You are missing the point just as much as the "I would simply kill the villain who keeps tying people to trolley tracks" people are. Just something to think about. Are you claiming that everyone pushing a button set the button and system of killing people up themselves? Because that's the only way they could possibly be held responsible. The one missing the point is YOU. Every person is individually doing something that affects ONLY THEM. Each person is making a choice ON THEIR OWN. Any perceived responsibility one way or another is 100% entirely based on individual feelings and anyone claiming that another person should feel some way or another is straight up projecting in order to make themselves feel better about their own choice. It's the same amount of pigheadedness that people show when given the Monty Hall problem and refusing to switch because its 'their choice, and they're sticking with it' despite every rational argument pointing to the other choice being statistically better. <cite>tcaz2 posted [p:975486036] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>I don't know why you keep trying to bring a 'mastermind' into this (actually, I do know why) but that's not actually part of the premise so of course it changes the premise when you add it. You are missing the point just as much as the "I would simply kill the villain who keeps tying people to trolley tracks" people are. Just something to think about.</quote>Are you claiming that everyone pushing a button set the button and system of killing people up themselves? Because that's the only way they could possibly be held responsible.The one missing the point is YOU. Every person is individually doing something that affects ONLY THEM. Each person is making a choice ON THEIR OWN. Any perceived responsibility one way or another is 100% entirely based on individual feelings and anyone claiming that another person should feel some way or another is straight up projecting in order to make themselves feel better about their own choice. It's the same amount of pigheadedness that people show when given the Monty Hall problem and refusing to switch because its 'their choice, and they're sticking with it' despite every rational argument pointing to the other choice being statistically better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 08/16/23 1:20:19 PM #47:	tcaz2 posted... Are you claiming that everyone pushing a button set the button and system of killing people up themselves? Because that's the only way they could possibly be held responsible. It's a hypothetical situation it doesn't need to have been setup by anyone. tcaz2 posted... Every person is individually doing something that affects ONLY THEM. In this scenario, yes kinda. In the original scenario, definitely not. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:975486223] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>tcaz2 posted... </cite><quote>Are you claiming that everyone pushing a button set the button and system of killing people up themselves? Because that's the only way they could possibly be held responsible.</quote>It's a hypothetical situation it doesn't need to have been setup by anyone.tcaz2 posted... </cite><quote>Every person is individually doing something that affects ONLY THEM.</quote>In this scenario, yes kinda.In the original scenario, definitely not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 08/16/23 1:48:50 PM #48:	Kenri posted... This is the only time I'm going to respond to you about this until you drop your bizarre and annoying virtue signaling claim; just letting you know in case you start wondering if I blocked you or something. I don't think I have talked to you this whole time so go ahead? Are you often able to win arguments with social pressure like this? (I've seen you post before, the answer is a resounding no) Kenri posted... In this scenario, yes kinda. In the original scenario, definitely not. Like you seriously don't get what's going on yet? They're the EXACT SAME BUTTONS. In this topic, all he did was slap a skull sticker on the blue button, and a heart sticker on the red button. That's it. If you don't accept this basic premise how can you even hope to discuss further subtleties like statistics or virtue signaling? --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:975486740] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite><quote>This is the only time I'm going to respond to you about this until you drop your bizarre and annoying virtue signaling claim; just letting you know in case you start wondering if I blocked you or something.</quote>I don't think I have talked to you this whole time so go ahead? Are you often able to win arguments with social pressure like this? (I've seen you post before, the answer is a resounding no)Kenri posted... </cite><quote>In this scenario, yes kinda.In the original scenario, definitely not.</quote>Like you seriously don't get what's going on yet?They're the EXACT SAME BUTTONS. In this topic, all he did was slap a skull sticker on the blue button, and a heart sticker on the red button. That's it. If you don't accept this basic premise how can you even hope to discuss further subtleties like statistics or virtue signaling? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 08/16/23 1:59:13 PM #49:	you should make another poll red button, everyone who uses the term "virtue signalling" seriously lives blue button, everyone who uses the term "virtue signalling" seriously dies --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:975486905] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>you should make another pollred button, everyone who uses the term "virtue signalling" seriously livesblue button, everyone who uses the term "virtue signalling" seriously dies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 08/16/23 2:14:44 PM #50:	I just want to say I adore how easy it is to spot Zero Escape players in these conversations. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:975487193] in Do you pre... [t:80537815]...</cite> <quote>I just want to say I adore how easy it is to spot Zero Escape players in these conversations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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