Board 8 > It's now illegal to block people on GameFAQs. See ya later

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XIII_Rocks
09/04/23 8:43:05 AM
#50:


Emerald should have allowed ZSig to post Ulti's picks imo.

Separate to any moderation issues, I do think the worst offender here is ZSig. Saying "OK, I'll take hosting responsibilities back except I'll give it to someone else" but not saying who that someone else is when you know it's going to be the guy that is the root cause of the whole debacle is just so clearly a shitty and insidious move.

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AriaOfBolo
09/04/23 8:44:56 AM
#51:


Leonhart4 posted...
He was given the option not to have to and declined

that's still interacting

like (as an example!) if I run something I don't want open transphobes to participate at all, through an intermediary or otherwise, and I feel like that's a reasonable line to be able to draw. Not saying Ulti lands in that category (he did last time I checked tho) and IDK what exactly has gone down between him and emerald, but I am sympathetic to the idea of if somebody bothers you that much, you have the right to cut them out of your own daggum thing.

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Leonhart4
09/04/23 8:52:13 AM
#53:


Shattered posted...
Or you know, maybe have a host who isn't blocked by a ton of people on the board. At the very least he shouldn't be the one posting the topic.

I've already seen someone say on Discord they didn't even know there was a new topic because they have Ulti on ignore. They wouldn't have even known if not for it being discussed on there.

For what it's worth, I agree with you. It's a bad decision regardless of what you think of Ulti.

MZero posted...
as someone who doesnt have Ulti blocked this sounds like a massive hassle

It's an extra 2 minutes max out of one or two days a week.

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hockeydude15
09/04/23 8:58:52 AM
#54:


Or Ulti could just post the topic with one of his 100 alts and only use that account for the contest. If he wants to run it so bad make him do the extra work, not everyone else who is in it.

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Leonhart4
09/04/23 9:07:05 AM
#55:


Sounds like it's time for the return of shin ramza

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KazGT6
09/04/23 9:59:23 AM
#56:


Steiner posted...
Mods, eat my fucking shit.
What are you talking about? You were modded for blocking?
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Thorn
09/04/23 10:01:33 AM
#57:


Allegedly Emerald was modded for stating that those on his block list could not participate in the game.

I say allegedly because I never saw the post in question - though if that's the case it's a pretty horrendous moderation unless there's a lot more to the post IMO.

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Underleveled
09/04/23 10:04:38 AM
#58:


I believe he followed the comment up with something to the effect of "this means you, Ulti." Back in the day, saying you had someone on ignore was considered... flaming? Trolling? Something moddable. And posts were definitely deleted. It's gotten super lax and there have been literal topics where people just blatantly post their ignore lists. But I guess it's still moddable if someone marks it.

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KazGT6
09/04/23 10:11:44 AM
#59:


Steiner posted...
Mods, eat my fucking shit.
"Illegal? ", those sound like very serious charges
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Thorn
09/04/23 10:17:59 AM
#60:


Underleveled posted...
I believe he followed the comment up with something to the effect of "this means you, Ulti." Back in the day, saying you had someone on ignore was considered... flaming? Trolling? Something moddable. And posts were definitely deleted. It's gotten super lax and there have been literal topics where people just blatantly post their ignore lists. But I guess it's still moddable if someone marks it.
Yeah, you're right about how it used to be moddable to state you're ignoring someone but I'm pretty sure that was before the rules were supposedly "relaxed" and given that was always a weak moddable offense and haphazardly enforced it seems especially weird for that to remain actionable if the rules were supposedly relaxed.

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tazzyboyishere
09/04/23 10:18:35 AM
#61:


You should definitely be able to ban people for whatever reason you want to. This isn't fucking grade school. If the banning is truly unfair then it should lose voters naturally. Ulti being a piece of shit for nearly two decades isn't even an unfair reason to exclude him.

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Reg
09/04/23 10:22:13 AM
#62:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Saying "OK, I'll take hosting responsibilities back except I'll give it to someone else" but not saying who that someone else is when you know it's going to be the guy that is the root cause of the whole debacle is just so clearly a shitty and insidious move.
Without really caring strongly about this issue because I planned on skipping pick'em this year regardless (Though, admittedly, would 100% drop from it if Ulti is hosting even if I wanted to participate)

Yeah. This is fucking awful and ZSig deserves to be given shit for this. And pretending that he's "taking the high road" with this is fucking pathetic.
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Emeraldegg
09/04/23 10:22:57 AM
#63:


Gonna be my only post in this topic.

First off, I did get moderated, it was the opening post in the topic in which I listed the rules, one of the rules being the one in question here; that no one on my block list (ulti) was allowed to participate. It was a notification only, which resulted in the topic being locked. The moderation was for "trolling." I did not lock the topic myself, though it probably looked like I did given zsig told me to lock the topic upon my exit. But no posts were deleted, I was simply told that I had to allow anyone who wants to participate to do so, and by the time I got to the board after a couple hours break the topic had already been locked. If people don't believe me PM me and I'll happily share you the screenshot of the moderation. And no, I don't believe not listing the rule would have made any difference; all that would've happened instead is that ulti would've realized after week 1 that I wasn't counting his picks and and it would've just blown up then anyway. At which point if I got modded for what I did, then I would've just been modded at that time anyway.

Next up, I understand that it was a reasonable compromise for someone else to post picks on ulti's behalf; I don't care. I'll take the L on that if I have to in public opinion, but that should not be moddable imo. And people make some pretty big assumptions about me that I am petty for having a single, notorious person on my block list. The block list is a feature for a reason, it's stupid and petty yourself to criticize someone for using it in the manner it's intended to be used, especially when I have a grand total of one user blocked. Because spoilers, I didn't block zsig or leon or anyone else in here who thinks I"m petty for using the feature, despite me disagreeing with them on the subject.

Next, I take issue with anyone who thinks the dreaded "discord cabal" was at work here. Talking to you Leon. No one told me to do this, no one influenced my decision on this. Me being a part of the discord does not mean I am incapable of making decisions and formulating thoughts of my own. I didn't join and go durr hurr, this ulti person sounds like he sucks guess he's my enemy now! No, I decided ON MY OWN that I no longer wanted him to participate because of past actions both in the topic and out (Yes he has actually been quite rude to me before in the pickem topic, in case people weren't aware. I graciously allowed him to keep participating after that.) Am I friends with people on the discord? Sure! But if that means I'm "compromised" then lol.

I also take issue with zsig's handling of this. It is a major weak move for him to A) Act like he's better than me because he allowed ulti to participate during his tenure, which is not something I feel beholden to uphold ("I'm the reason this topic exists in the first place" etc), and B) not running this himself after talking that talk. Several people have mentioned how he then gave the topic to ulti, idgaf about that, really. I take umbrage more with him not running it himself if he thinks he is such a better host than me. And I don't take issue with anyone who chooses to participate in ulti's topic (not that you need my approval anyway), ulti seems enthusiastic about it so like, people blocking him aside I do think he will at least put the effort into it.

Ultimately, if people want to say that I am petty because I wanted to disallow ulti of all people, hey you do you. If that's the hill you want to die on, go for it. But I don't enjoy how I, as the host and the person who was CURRENTLY, not in the past, responsible for running the topic, am supposed to make more sacrifices of my own enjoyment after I already make sacrifices of time and effort of multiple hours a week plugging the picks in, getting the standings in order, etc. Which makes a former host of all people being against me on this even more frustruating, because they more than anyone would understand that this isn't just some 5 minutes a week project. Nope, I'm the bad person for not wanting a noted ****lord in my topic, who again as I noted previously has been an ass to me in the pickem topic before, and clearly that means I will just go on a blocking boner and start banning anyone the moment they talk back to me! Clearly me running this thing fairly for several years means nothing and now I am a terrible host, who according to the mods made the pickem topic in an elaborate ruse to troll ulti.

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TomNook7
09/04/23 10:37:53 AM
#64:


internet is serious business

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Thorn
09/04/23 10:39:53 AM
#65:


Emeraldegg posted...
I was simply told that I had to allow anyone who wants to participate to do so
Okay, yeah that's pretty ridiculous. tazzy is right, if a contest runner wants to exclude some people from participating they should be able to. Hell, VGMC has handed out disqualifications in the past how is that much different by the mod's reasoning?

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ZeroSignal
09/04/23 10:49:55 AM
#66:


Emeraldegg posted...
I also take issue with zsig's handling of this. It is a major weak move for him to A) Act like he's better than me because he allowed ulti to participate during his tenure, which is not something I feel beholden to uphold ("I'm the reason this topic exists in the first place" etc), and B) not running this himself after talking that talk. Several people have mentioned how he then gave the topic to ulti, idgaf about that, really. I take umbrage more with him not running it himself if he thinks he is such a better host than me.

My last post in this topic:

I never once acted like I was a better host. In fact, you were running the league very well until you put that rule up. I was willing to make a compromise and keep tabs on mine and his picks throughout the season so that you could keep running this.

Second, my career takes up most of my time and I wouldn't be able to run this as efficiently as I did in the beginning. It's not a weak move to give the keys to someone else.

On a somewhat similar note, leaving the Discord quietly was my decision alone. I was hardly posting there anyway and decided to do everyone a favor there without being verbal on my way out. I don't regret any decisions made in the past 24 hours.

Obviously I will not change anyone's minds here. I was just trying to help a friend who's been in this league as long as I've been, alongside a couple other OGs. If people here choose to dislike me for that, that's on them; I've been disliked here before by worse.

Also for the record, taking the high road isn't pathetic. It's called being an adult.

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Kenri
09/04/23 10:50:05 AM
#67:


Leonhart4 posted...
Glad it doesn't, vehemently refusing to let someone participate in any degree (such as just letting someone else post picks on their behalf) is really petty

(And no, "Ulti deserves it" doesn't make it less petty)
  1. Yeah it does
  2. This already happens with other users, me saying "I wish the rest of the board had this energy" is referring specifically to doing it to Ulti
  3. It's not actually petty for someone who's been a notorious jackass for literally 20 years to experience the natural social consequences for that, especially when the consequences are this fuckin mild

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Bane_Of_Despair
09/04/23 10:52:13 AM
#68:


ZeroSignal posted...
It's not a weak move to give the keys to someone else.
It wasn't just "someone else" is one of the main issues though, you shouldn't just brush that aside lol

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Maniac64
09/04/23 10:53:33 AM
#69:


SMFFFC also has people banned from participating.

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PeaceFrog
09/04/23 10:55:34 AM
#70:


My two cents is that i think the situation is dumb but emerald is completely in the right. Agree with tazzy, and dick move from zsig.

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TheManaSword
09/04/23 10:57:11 AM
#71:


Maniac64 posted...
SMFFFC also has people banned from participating.

finally we can get this contest shut down

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UshiromiyaEva
09/04/23 10:57:34 AM
#72:


I haven't talked about Ulti in years at this point, but oof.

Obviously this is a bunch of wierd board football nonsense, but just in a vacuum, it's morally correct to ban Ulti from anything you want. For 2 decades the man has repeatedly acted like a monster, briefly pretended to have turned a new leaf, and then went right back to the exact same tricks. Without fail, every. Single. Time. And people keep falling for it because....remember the shirt, yeah that's B8 lore, he had a cool shirt! Can't let that go!

This has happened at bare minimum a dozen times on a macro level, probably dozens more on a micro level. When it's brought up, someone will always say "no he's cool now", and then he always goes back. People just keep getting tricked.

The man deserves no happiness on this board at this point, and it's completely self inflicted.

And based on the existence of this topic, this post will assuredly be modded. Whatever!

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FFDragon
09/04/23 10:57:42 AM
#73:


My two cents is that i think the situation is dumb but zsig is completely in the right. Agree with leon, and dick move from emerald.

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PeaceFrog
09/04/23 11:00:45 AM
#74:


FFDragon posted...
My two cents is that i think the situation is dumb but zsig is completely in the right. Agree with leon, and dick move from emerald.
Icwudt

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catesdb
09/04/23 11:05:26 AM
#75:


one day we'll be able to block people in real life like that black mirror episode and everything will be great

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Leonhart4
09/04/23 11:10:00 AM
#76:


Maniac64 posted...
SMFFFC also has people banned from participating.

For actively breaking the rules of the contest, yes. Ulti hasn't broken any rules.

Also I said literally nothing about Discord pushing Emerald to do this so I don't know why I caught a stray on that. I made a dumb joke about Discord since Steiner stans for it.

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XIII_Rocks
09/04/23 11:11:04 AM
#77:


ZeroSignal posted...
On a somewhat similar note, leaving the Discord quietly was my decision alone. I was hardly posting there anyway and decided to do everyone a favor there without being verbal on my way out. I don't regret any decisions made in the past 24 hours

I am frankly confused that, upon reflection, you don't understand why saying "I'm going to hand it off to someone else" and not mentioning that said person is Ulti was appallingly bad judgement.

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Thorn
09/04/23 11:14:24 AM
#78:


I know it's not as compelling as the board drama aspect of this specific situation but I'm still a bit stunned by the moderation side of this.

Stating that all contests have to be open to everyone is just like... a made-up rule they came up with, right? If Emerald hadn't explicitly stated it and just silently didn't record certain people's picks I'm like 99% sure the mod team does not act even if it is brought to their attention later. (Which would be difficult to do through normal channels because how exactly are you going to try and label this a moddable offense if done 'silently'?)

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SirChris
09/04/23 11:14:52 AM
#79:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I haven't talked about Ulti in years at this point, but oof.

Obviously this is a bunch of wierd board football nonsense, but just in a vacuum, it's morally correct to ban Ulti from anything you want. For 2 decades the man has repeatedly acted like a monster, briefly pretended to have turned a new leaf, and then went right back to the exact same tricks. Without fail, every. Single. Time. And people keep falling for it because....remember the shirt, yeah that's B8 lore, he had a cool shirt! Can't let that go!

This has happened at bare minimum a dozen times on a macro level, probably dozens more on a micro level. When it's brought up, someone will always say "no he's cool now", and then he always goes back. People just keep getting tricked.

The man deserves no happiness on this board at this point, and it's completely self inflicted.

And based on the existence of this topic, this post will assuredly be modded. Whatever!

@UshiromiyaEva

Heya, we interact sometimes but fmpov (and I am a person who can certainly be riddled with bullets for some things I have done, feel free I am a mess sometimes) Ulti is clearly someone who suffers from immense trauma surrounding his childhood that I have always been able to empathatize with while decrying when he does wrong. It has always put me in a tough spot because holy shit does ulti say things really bad at times but also I can understand in part the process he has had to go through.

I never think about the shirt, or the lore or whatever. We are just dealing with someone who clearly had developmental struggles due to an immense amount of trauma and someone who let his popularity go to his head worse than even me (saying something here tbh teenage chris was a hoot in the worst way at times) which led to... a lot of messes.

I think at this point if a user on the internet drives your decisions at any point, if you are still angry at one person who if you pay any attention to outside of the bad incidents is clearly a traumatized, fragile man trying to get better, I would suggest to try to let it go. Don't forgive, don't unblock or whatever I couldn't care less. I keep telling Ulti not to worry about b8 discord because it is anyone's right to not want to be around him, he is not owed forgiveness or a fair shake or even a slightly unfair shake. But also, this post isn't really about Ulti. I'm explaining Ulti, but people stay angry for too long about things when the opposite of love is not hate, but disinterest.

I hope one day everyone finds peace tbh. Says famously peaceful Chris, am I right? lmao. Blame my new anti-psychotics and other medicines but I have been feeling much better lately.

People thinking Ulti is in this cycle of monster then pretend then monster vastly overestimate Ulti tbh. He's not nearly so sinister and put together. He's just broken. And it is your right to hate him and block him and anything else. Not saying otherwise. It makes nothing he has ever done here right. But I don't think people realize how they sound sometimes.

Moderation was fair under gamefaqs rules, I think? Post 1 was clearly trolling aimed directly at Ulti tbh. Very intentional at that. To the point someone else couldn't post picks for someone who has been in the contest for a long ass time. The difference is some people think that trolling is justified, whereas gamefaqs mods don't really consider the lore.

I get almost no one gives a fuck about my take mind you, but I am getting healthier so typing a lot is easier for me too. Ulti started it, lots of people continue it, both sides care too much about words on the internet. Both sides are not equal of course, Ulti started it trauma or not so he is 'more wrong', but this isnt about blame moreso than 'find something better to do than be mad at ulti when you see him.' I have taken up knitting. There was no real point to this I guess, just felt like responding because imagining ulti as some craven monster while perhaps interesting struck me as very off. He is, like most monsters, just a broken man trying to unbreak himself and he has done real harm unfortunately.

I bet this will be popular lmao.

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AriaOfBolo
09/04/23 11:15:48 AM
#80:


Thorn posted...
Stating that all contests have to be open to everyone

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Reg
09/04/23 11:17:12 AM
#81:


ZeroSignal posted...


Also for the record, taking the high road isn't pathetic. It's called being an adult.
No, but lying about it is.
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Thorn
09/04/23 11:19:29 AM
#82:


SirChris posted...
Moderation was fair under gamefaqs rules, I think? Post 1 was clearly trolling aimed directly at Ulti tbh. Very intentional at that.
That specific rule in the post was definitely moddable back under the old moderation regime, but SBAllen explicitly relaxed the rules some years back - I know, because I was among a couple of people arguing it was a bad idea to him in the "request for comment"-esque thread he made announcing the plan and I clearly lost that fight - so it seems a little weird to me that that still qualifies as actionable.

Still, if that's the position the mod took I'd at least understand it. It's the stated reasoning Emerald was given by the mod that floors me because that is in no way or shape the rules AFAIK.

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SirChris
09/04/23 11:20:47 AM
#83:


Thorn posted...
That specific rule in the post was definitely moddable back under the old moderation regime, but SBAllen explicitly relaxed the rules some years back - I know, because I was among a couple of people arguing it was a bad idea to him in the "request for comment"-esque thread he made announcing the plan and I clearly lost that fight - so it seems a little weird to me that that still qualifies as actionable.

Still, if that's the position the mod took I'd at least understand it. It's the stated reasoning Emerald was given by the mod that floors me because that is in no way or shape the rules AFAIK.

Ah, I missed the stated reason. That is dumb, classic gamefaqs mods lol

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SirChris
09/04/23 11:21:19 AM
#84:


God remember that time a lot of people got banned for invading potd, shake vs crystal moon? God. What a life.

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AriaOfBolo
09/04/23 11:21:55 AM
#85:


SirChris posted...
Post 1 was clearly trolling aimed directly at Ulti tbh.

Trolling, or boundary setting?

SirChris posted...
People thinking Ulti is in this cycle of monster then pretend then monster vastly overestimate Ulti tbh. He's not nearly so sinister and put together

I don't think I buy that. You might know him better than I do, but I've seen him turn it off at will, and that doesn't leave me with the impression that he's acting in good faith or trying to improve.

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Leonhart4
09/04/23 11:25:03 AM
#86:


SirChris posted...
God remember that time a lot of people got banned for invading potd, shake vs crystal moon?

Pew pew

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Maniac64
09/04/23 11:26:53 AM
#87:


I remember getting modded for counting in a topic (group of us doing one number at a time) and for helping summon Captain Planet.

Good times.

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SirChris
09/04/23 11:27:06 AM
#88:


AriaOfBolo posted...
Trolling, or boundary setting?

I don't think I buy that. You might know him better than I do, but I've seen him turn it off at will, and that doesn't leave me with the impression that he's acting in good faith or trying to improve.

Boundaries are for you, not for other people. Emerald's boundary is respected by him not hosting the contest anymore. Now there is no problem. Although now reading the actual reason emerald was modded that is pretty dumb, so that point was undermined a bit. It's not like Emerald is not 'whole' by no longer hosting, kind of seems like a pain in the ass more than anything tbh.

As for the other part.

Fair, and also I don't expect you or anyone to change anything tbh. Ulti has some so much completely unhinged shit that expecting you to go 'its ok' or whatever is absurd. Which is also how I know Ulti isn't done healing, because he still wants that. It's completely unrealistic, so yeah he isn't there yet. My words aren't meant to really change anything - I doubt even a single person will be swayed - but it is funny how at times we overestimate those we despise. I think I know ulti better than almost anyone else, probably? For sure not a mastermind, but also for sure not owed an ounce of anyone's time or forgiveness.

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Thorn
09/04/23 11:29:10 AM
#89:


AriaOfBolo posted...
Trolling, or boundary setting?
It's the specific calling out Ulti there that I think puts it into moddable territory. I think if the rule ended at: "4) I am no longer allowing anyone with an acct on my block list to participate." it would have been unquestionably okay under the ToS (under my understanding of the rules. If the mod comment is to be believed it wouldn't be.)

As has been mentioned by Chris and others, specifically calling out who you're ignoring was definitely considered under trolling in the past.

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Shattered
09/04/23 11:30:48 AM
#90:


Thorn posted...
That specific rule in the post was definitely moddable back under the old moderation regime, but SBAllen explicitly relaxed the rules some years back - I know, because I was among a couple of people arguing it was a bad idea to him in the "request for comment"-esque thread he made announcing the plan and I clearly lost that fight - so it seems a little weird to me that that still qualifies as actionable.

Still, if that's the position the mod took I'd at least understand it. It's the stated reasoning Emerald was given by the mod that floors me because that is in no way or shape the rules AFAIK.


Given the context, I assume that Ulti either reported the post or complained to a mod privately about it. I guess theoretically someone could have reported it on his behalf but with the context of the explanation, seems unlikely.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/04/23 11:38:00 AM
#91:


Chris, I hope you realize I'm saying this without any intent of malice and with complete sympathy to your own personal situation.

But he is such a consistent liar about so much, and has made up so many things about what he's done and his life, so often, so consistently, that there's nothing that could be done to make be think any claim he made to you about a traumatic childhood wasn't something he just made up, and that you've fallen into that same category of people I was talking about in buying into his con.

That is an absolutely horrible assumption to make in general about people, but all things considered it's just too consistently his MO.

If you have actual in real life first hand encounters of Ulti's experience offline, looking into his eyes, this would be a different story, but otherwise.....no.

Do you think I'm being too harsh? I pissed him off one time and so he decided to spend a week going into topics pretending I was a pedophile to get back at me. I cannot be harsh enough.

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AriaOfBolo
09/04/23 11:39:32 AM
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SirChris posted...
Emerald's boundary is respected by him not hosting the contest anymore. Now there is no problem.

also coulda been respected by just, honoring the ban and moving on

Thorn posted...
specifically calling out who you're ignoring was definitely considered under trolling in the past.

That part I get, although it's also been pointed out that the rule was relaxed. I think it's a kinda silly rule, and is allegedly not actually what got it modded, but this whole thing sets a precedent I really don't like, and majority opinion seems to be cool with it.

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Underleveled
09/04/23 11:40:50 AM
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SirChris posted...
God remember that time a lot of people got banned for invading potd, shake vs crystal moon? God. What a life.
I had at least one alt banned for simply posting on the Cory in the House board.

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Wedge_Antilles
09/04/23 11:45:30 AM
#94:


Is this all wrapping up or am I still good to make popcorn?

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Shattered
09/04/23 11:47:03 AM
#95:


SirChris posted...
Boundaries are for you, not for other people. Emerald's boundary is respected by him not hosting the contest anymore. Now there is no problem. Although now reading the actual reason emerald was modded that is pretty dumb, so that point was undermined a bit. It's not like Emerald is not 'whole' by no longer hosting, kind of seems like a pain in the ass more than anything tbh.

I'm not sure there's no problem.

If Emerald wants to participate he would now have to make the same accommodation to participate as he would have had to make if he were running it.

There's also several other people who now have to make the same accommodation because Ulti is the host.

So instead of it being an Ulti problem which stemmed from the consequences of his own actions. It is now an Emerald plus numerous other people problem. It's arguably a bigger problem now than it was previously.

I'm all for Ulti healing and changing as a person and for what it's worth, to me at least this seems to be the best attempt he has made at it. But part of that involves accepting there are consequences to your prior actions. I think that Emerald should have just allowed someone to submit on Ulti's behalf but he was certainly under no obligation to. And when that didn't happen, Ulti should have accepted the consequences of his actions and graciously stepped away. At the very least he should have recognized that him taking over the hosting was definitely not the right course of action.
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GenesisSaga
09/04/23 12:08:03 PM
#96:


This topic is a lot to take in...

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scarletspeed7
09/04/23 12:12:47 PM
#97:


As someone who feeds off of voyeuristic drama observation, I heartily thank Steiner for this topic.

The right way to have handled this, likely, would have been to not mention that users who are blocked can't participate, and when it comes up, ignore the fact that ulti can't participate. If you're blocking him on the board, more power to you. You do you. But then don't even acknowledge criticism that he's blocked and just plow through the season! All of this unsolicited advice comes free of charge from someone you don't know nor care about - you're welcome.

There's always been this bizarre pushback against the notion of blocking someone, and I don't see how it's any different from curating one's timeline and trimming away unwanted content. Yes; Board 8 is a community, but in any other community, you can choose not to walk down a specific street, visit a specific home, or allow in specific guests to your home. You can ignore phone calls and block numbers. You can ghost a significant other and sever all communication. It's fine. It's a choice. No one is superior for choosing to automatically skip over the posts of Hardcore_Adult. That just stands as a preference decision. I can sympathize with the sting of rejection, certainly. But the act of blocking is not a moral failing on the part of the person who simply wants to trim the fat from their B8 experience. No different than using AdBlock.

For the record, I put people on ignore sometimes, but usually because I'm steamed and find it the easiest way to cool off and not try to re-engage in a stupid argument for eternity.

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MZero
09/04/23 12:12:56 PM
#98:


literally obsessed

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LightningStrikes
09/04/23 12:20:55 PM
#99:


I had a meeting and in that time this topic doubled in size.

Just like the good old days *Single tear rolls down cheek as I explode in a boat*

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Cavedweller2000
09/04/23 12:21:06 PM
#100:


I must say, this is a riveting read

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