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DementedDurian 09/18/23 10:35:40 PM #51:	Calwings posted... I don't have one. I don't eat cereal. My preferred breakfast is a microwaved pop tart. Now that I've answered your question, can you stop trying to derail this topic with meaningless off-topic chatter? I mean, I have nothing better to do. Time for the next question - What's your favorite sea creature? Mine's the coelacanth! --- (She/Her) I'm a succubus. Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt you. <3 Video Game IGN: Mystic. Ask me for a joke, I come up with some good ones. <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:976162253] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>I don't have one. I don't eat cereal. My preferred breakfast is a microwaved pop tart.Now that I've answered your question, can you stop trying to derail this topic with meaningless off-topic chatter?</quote>I mean, I have nothing better to do. Time for the next question - What's your favorite sea creature? Mine's the coelacanth! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 09/18/23 10:38:56 PM #52:	DementedDurian posted... I mean, I have nothing better to do. Wrong answer. Goodbye. https://iili.io/JHbEYDQ.gif --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:976162306] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted...</cite><quote>I mean, I have nothing better to do. </quote>Wrong answer. Goodbye.https://iili.io/JHbEYDQ.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
random_man9119 09/18/23 10:45:09 PM #53:	Damn, thats pretty bad... As much as I enjoy SV, it's getting harder to overlook the technical problems... The slowdown in quite a few areas in the DLC was really pushing it... Honestly thought it froze two or three times... Which I can't say has ever happened in a Pokemon game before... --- NNID:MrOddities\|PSN:OddGamer2013 Playing:\|Pokemon Scarlet/Violet\|LoZ: Twilight Princess\|Persona 3 Portable\|Mortal Kombat 1\|Baldur's Gate 3 <cite>random_man9119 posted [p:976162424] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Damn, thats pretty bad...As much as I enjoy SV, it's getting harder to overlook the technical problems... The slowdown in quite a few areas in the DLC was really pushing it... Honestly thought it froze two or three times... Which I can't say has ever happened in a Pokemon game before... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Compsognathus 09/18/23 10:47:32 PM #54:	I gave up on the series at Gen 8. Sad since it was one of my favorites, but they just didn't deserve to be rewarded with my money anymore. --- 1 line break(s), 160 characters allowed <cite>Compsognathus posted [p:976162457] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>I gave up on the series at Gen 8. Sad since it was one of my favorites, but they just didn't deserve to be rewarded with my money anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViewtifulJoe 09/18/23 10:51:09 PM #55:	Video games in 2023. --- Still waiting on that third threat <cite>ViewtifulJoe posted [p:976162536] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Video games in 2023. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/18/23 11:12:12 PM #56:	Literally what happened in here. this topic had some of the funniest shit Ive seen on CE in a while lol. on topic appreciate the heads up on DLC cause I havent looked into it much but man is this worse than I ever expected --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:976162870] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Literally what happened in here. this topic had some of the funniest shit Ive seen on CE in a while lol.on topic appreciate the heads up on DLC cause I havent looked into it much but man is this worse than I ever expected </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 09/18/23 11:19:42 PM #57:	Zeeak4444 posted... Literally what happened in here. Poster with "demented" in their name acts demented https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/0/AAe6eNAAE2oe.jpg But Gen 7 is what finally did me in. It wasn't bad on a technical level and I liked the story, but after finishing the E4 in Moon I just felt so apathetic I decided I was done. Skipped 8 and got into 9 because the change in direction looked like an interesting experiment. Now that my curiosity is sated and Ash is retired I can go back to ignoring the franchise, unless Viz decides to finally reprint Magical Pokemon Journey >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:976163013] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite><quote>Literally what happened in here.</quote>Poster with "demented" in their name acts dementedhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/0/AAe6eNAAE2oe.jpg But Gen 7 is what finally did me in. It wasn't bad on a technical level and I liked the story, but after finishing the E4 in Moon I just felt so apathetic I decided I was done. Skipped 8 and got into 9 because the change in direction looked like an interesting experiment.Now that my curiosity is sated and Ash is retired I can go back to ignoring the franchise, unless Viz decides to finally reprint Magical Pokemon Journey >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
M-Watcher 09/18/23 11:23:41 PM #58:	I went to do the Kitakami Ogre Clan quest and thankfully I haven't hit the 300 limit and was able to complete the quest. Certainly not my first rodeo with trying to carefully navigate around / hope I don't trigger a game breaking bug, but man, it's disappointing I even have to do that in the first place. --- Currently playing / Backlog / Collection: https://howlongtobeat.com/user?n=M_Watcher <cite>M-Watcher posted [p:976163083] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>I went to do the Kitakami Ogre Clan quest and thankfully I haven't hit the 300 limit and was able to complete the quest.Certainly not my first rodeo with trying to carefully navigate around / hope I don't trigger a game breaking bug, but man, it's disappointing I even have to do that in the first place. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
comicfire 09/18/23 11:29:21 PM #59:	Been playing since RBY. SV are my favorite games in the mainline series. Didn't hit the 300 bug, but also only battled enough trainers to get the rewards for doing so on routes. --- But you can call me Erika~ <cite>comicfire posted [p:976163156] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Been playing since RBY. SV are my favorite games in the mainline series.Didn't hit the 300 bug, but also only battled enough trainers to get the rewards for doing so on routes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 09/18/23 11:30:38 PM #60:	Irony posted... Not as big of a joke as the people that buy it --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:976163182] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite><quote>Not as big of a joke as the people that buy it</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dmaster342 09/19/23 12:10:23 AM #61:	Joke's on them (and the game). I've only fought like five trainer battles in the game and have no want to beat more ever lol. #GodBlessEXPCandy --- NNID: dmaster342 Switch FC: SW-7536-6913-0987 3DS FC: 3411-5415-9967 <cite>dmaster342 posted [p:976163755] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Joke's on them (and the game). I've only fought like five trainer battles in the game and have no want to beat more ever lol. #GodBlessEXPCandy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/19/23 12:14:48 AM #62:	i honestly can't believe how quickly they announced and shat out DLC before addressing any problems with the base game. the drop in quality over the years from 2D to 3D is just absurd --- The stone that fell is still falling, so let that stone be a wondrous thing <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:976163812] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>i honestly can't believe how quickly they announced and shat out DLC before addressing any problems with the base game. the drop in quality over the years from 2D to 3D is just absurd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/19/23 12:16:57 AM #63:	viewmaster_pi posted... i honestly can't believe how quickly they announced and shat out DLC before addressing any problems with the base game. the drop in quality over the years from 2D to 3D is just absurd Eh, I wouldn't really call it quick. It's almost been a year. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976163830] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite><quote>i honestly can't believe how quickly they announced and shat out DLC before addressing any problems with the base game. the drop in quality over the years from 2D to 3D is just absurd</quote>Eh, I wouldn't really call it quick. It's almost been a year. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 09/19/23 12:21:35 AM #64:	it could have been three years and it still would have been too soon. my point is they should not have milked their audience with more broken content while you still can't even rotate the camera without the framerate dropping to single digits --- The stone that fell is still falling, so let that stone be a wondrous thing <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:976163881] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>it could have been three years and it still would have been too soon. my point is they should not have milked their audience with more broken content while you still can't even rotate the camera without the framerate dropping to single digits </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 09/19/23 12:24:39 PM #65:	Calwings posted... I don't have one. I don't eat cereal. My preferred breakfast is a microwaved pop tart. Off-topic: Have you heard about the Frosted Chocolately Pancake pop tarts coming out? --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "You know, there are certain flaws in this film," Tom Servo <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:976171790] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>I don't have one. I don't eat cereal. My preferred breakfast is a microwaved pop tart.</quote>Off-topic: Have you heard about the Frosted Chocolately Pancake pop tarts coming out? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cephalopods 09/19/23 12:26:14 PM #66:	Yeeaaaa, I'm able to enjoy the games despite the jank, but Gamefreak really does fucking suck. I just want another Legends game, it felt better than any other Pokemon game so far on Switch <cite>Cephalopods posted [p:976171824] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Yeeaaaa, I'm able to enjoy the games despite the jank, but Gamefreak really does fucking suck. I just want another Legends game, it felt better than any other Pokemon game so far on Switch</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 09/19/23 12:32:09 PM #67:	Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:976171939] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hambo 09/19/23 12:39:11 PM #68:	Cephalopods posted... Yeeaaaa, I'm able to enjoy the games despite the jank, but Gamefreak really does fucking suck. I just want another Legends game, it felt better than any other Pokemon game so far on Switch Legends was also janky and ugly, but I really liked the interactions with wild pokemon in it. Wish we could still feed them snacks or get attacked directly by them. That was fun. PraetorXyn posted... Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. Cool demon pets are cool, but I like having cute little cartoon animal friends to adventure with too. --- Hambo's alt. <cite>Hambo posted [p:976172070] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Cephalopods posted... </cite><quote>Yeeaaaa, I'm able to enjoy the games despite the jank, but Gamefreak really does fucking suck. I just want another Legends game, it felt better than any other Pokemon game so far on Switch</quote>Legends was also janky and ugly, but I really liked the interactions with wild pokemon in it. Wish we could still feed them snacks or get attacked directly by them. That was fun.PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons.</quote>Cool demon pets are cool, but I like having cute little cartoon animal friends to adventure with too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 09/19/23 12:46:09 PM #69:	PraetorXyn posted... Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. Probably cute and weird monsters is more marketable to children and to the masses. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976172252] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons.</quote>Probably cute and weird monsters is more marketable to children and to the masses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 09/19/23 12:47:21 PM #70:	BakonBitz posted... Probably cute and weird monsters is more marketable to children and to the masses. Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:976172289] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>Probably cute and weird monsters is more marketable to children and to the masses.</quote>Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hambo 09/19/23 1:06:19 PM #71:	PraetorXyn posted... Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding. These are generally adults who grew up with them. Nostalgia and brand familiarity help a lot. --- Hambo's alt. <cite>Hambo posted [p:976172662] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding.</quote>These are generally adults who grew up with them. Nostalgia and brand familiarity help a lot. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 09/19/23 1:06:41 PM #72:	PraetorXyn posted... Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding. many current adults grew up playing pokemon. i played pokemon blue as a kid on the og brick gameboy and every subsequent generation after that --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:976172673] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding.</quote>many current adults grew up playing pokemon. i played pokemon blue as a kid on the og brick gameboy and every subsequent generation after that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/19/23 1:18:31 PM #73:	PraetorXyn posted... Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. I like both series, but Pokemon has more broad appeal in that the monsters are far more approachable and secular, which is not something SMT has since its monsters are based on real-life religions and mythologies. (With some games going as far as to include the Biblical God and Lucifer as participating entities.) Plus, the social elements of Pokemon also helped make it popular. No mainline SMT entry or even the spinoffs allow for PvP trading and battling, which is a huge point in Pokemon's favor. Additionally, while SMT as a series predates Pokemon, no mainline SMT game had a release outside of Japan until 2004, 6 years after Pokemon's international debut. By that time, anything that came after would have been seen as an imitator. Also, your post comes across as "edgy tryhard". --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:976172896] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons.</quote>I like both series, but Pokemon has more broad appeal in that the monsters are far more approachable and secular, which is not something SMT has since its monsters are based on real-life religions and mythologies. (With some games going as far as to include the Biblical God and Lucifer as participating entities.)Plus, the social elements of Pokemon also helped make it popular. No mainline SMT entry or even the spinoffs allow for PvP trading and battling, which is a huge point in Pokemon's favor.Additionally, while SMT as a series predates Pokemon, no mainline SMT game had a release outside of Japan until 2004, 6 years after Pokemon's international debut. By that time, anything that came after would have been seen as an imitator. Also, your post comes across as "edgy tryhard". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Calwings 09/19/23 1:21:24 PM #74:	PraetorXyn posted... Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding. Here's the thing you're misunderstanding: Pokemon doesn't attract new adult fans. It pretty much only attracts younger fans (who don't understand all of the flaws in the games that the adults are complaining about) and then either keeps those fans interested into adulthood or has some of those former kid fans come back later as adults looking for a nostalgia hit like when Pokemon Go first came out. Look at all of the Pokemon clones like Temtem and Nexomon that have come out in the past few years but haven't gotten much traction. They don't have the marketing or resources to match the massive Pokemon juggernaut in terms of attracting younger fans, but the monster catching genre just inherently doesn't attract older fans who don't already have that Pokemon nostalgia in them. Their only real market is kids whose parents are too poor to afford premium $60 Pokemon titles but still want to get their kid something similar and lapsed Pokemon fans who have escaped the stockholm syndrome, dropped the franchise, and looked for an alternative. And even then, most of those lapsed Pokemon fans would just go play fanmade ROM hacks of older Pokemon games instead of an offbrand alternative like Temtem or Nexomon. It would take the Pokemon franchise completely and royally fucking up beyond all belief for any competitor to come even remotely close to matching it. I'm talking "the Electric Soldier Porygon episode of the anime giving 700 kids seizures but what if those 700 kids actually died" levels of completely and royally fucking up, and I'm not even sure if that would do the trick at this point. It's basically too big to fail at this point. --- https://i.imgur.com/PmF1p9q.jpg <cite>Calwings posted [p:976172948] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted...</cite><quote>Sure. But theyre apparently more marketable to adults too, hence my not understanding.</quote>Here's the thing you're misunderstanding: Pokemon doesn't attract new adult fans. It pretty much only attracts younger fans (who don't understand all of the flaws in the games that the adults are complaining about) and then either keeps those fans interested into adulthood or has some of those former kid fans come back later as adults looking for a nostalgia hit like when Pokemon Go first came out.Look at all of the Pokemon clones like Temtem and Nexomon that have come out in the past few years but haven't gotten much traction. They don't have the marketing or resources to match the massive Pokemon juggernaut in terms of attracting younger fans, but the monster catching genre just inherently doesn't attract older fans who don't already have that Pokemon nostalgia in them. Their only real market is kids whose parents are too poor to afford premium $60 Pokemon titles but still want to get their kid something similar and lapsed Pokemon fans who have escaped the stockholm syndrome, dropped the franchise, and looked for an alternative. And even then, most of those lapsed Pokemon fans would just go play fanmade ROM hacks of older Pokemon games instead of an offbrand alternative like Temtem or Nexomon.It would take the Pokemon franchise completely and royally fucking up beyond all belief for any competitor to come even remotely close to matching it. I'm talking "the Electric Soldier Porygon episode of the anime giving 700 kids seizures but what if those 700 kids actually died" levels of completely and royally fucking up, and I'm not even sure if that would do the trick at this point. It's basically too big to fail at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 09/19/23 1:26:27 PM #75:	Calwings posted... Here's the thing you're misunderstanding: Pokemon doesn't attract new adult fans. It pretty much only attracts younger fans (who don't understand all of the flaws in the games that the adults are complaining about) and then either keeps those fans interested into adulthood or has some of those former kid fans come back later as adults looking for a nostalgia hit like when Pokemon Go first came out. Look at all of the Pokemon clones like Temtem and Nexomon that have come out in the past few years but haven't gotten much traction. They don't have the marketing or resources to match the massive Pokemon juggernaut in terms of attracting younger fans, but the monster catching genre just inherently doesn't attract older fans who don't already have that Pokemon nostalgia in them. Their only real market is kids whose parents are too poor to afford premium $60 Pokemon titles but still want to get their kid something similar and lapsed Pokemon fans who have escaped the stockholm syndrome, dropped the franchise, and looked for an alternative. And even then, most of those lapsed Pokemon fans would just go play fanmade ROM hacks of older Pokemon games instead of an offbrand alternative like Temtem or Nexomon. It would take the Pokemon franchise completely and royally fucking up beyond all belief for any competitor to come even remotely close to matching it. I'm talking "the Electric Soldier Porygon episode of the anime giving 700 kids seizures but what if those 700 kids actually died" levels of completely and royally fucking up, and I'm not even sure if that would do the trick at this point. It's basically too big to fail at this point. Yeah. You and others have raised good points. It will just never be a franchise for me. I was born in 86, and I never liked handheld gaming. So when I was in high school playing around with emulation I found SMT as I was specifically looking for Japanese RPGs without a US release as I wanted to play stuff I felt had been withheld from me. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:976173053] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Calwings posted... </cite><quote>Here's the thing you're misunderstanding: Pokemon doesn't attract new adult fans. It pretty much only attracts younger fans (who don't understand all of the flaws in the games that the adults are complaining about) and then either keeps those fans interested into adulthood or has some of those former kid fans come back later as adults looking for a nostalgia hit like when Pokemon Go first came out.Look at all of the Pokemon clones like Temtem and Nexomon that have come out in the past few years but haven't gotten much traction. They don't have the marketing or resources to match the massive Pokemon juggernaut in terms of attracting younger fans, but the monster catching genre just inherently doesn't attract older fans who don't already have that Pokemon nostalgia in them. Their only real market is kids whose parents are too poor to afford premium $60 Pokemon titles but still want to get their kid something similar and lapsed Pokemon fans who have escaped the stockholm syndrome, dropped the franchise, and looked for an alternative. And even then, most of those lapsed Pokemon fans would just go play fanmade ROM hacks of older Pokemon games instead of an offbrand alternative like Temtem or Nexomon.It would take the Pokemon franchise completely and royally fucking up beyond all belief for any competitor to come even remotely close to matching it. I'm talking "the Electric Soldier Porygon episode of the anime giving 700 kids seizures but what if those 700 kids actually died" levels of completely and royally fucking up, and I'm not even sure if that would do the trick at this point. It's basically too big to fail at this point.</quote>Yeah. You and others have raised good points. It will just never be a franchise for me.I was born in 86, and I never liked handheld gaming. So when I was in high school playing around with emulation I found SMT as I was specifically looking for Japanese RPGs without a US release as I wanted to play stuff I felt had been withheld from me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/19/23 1:49:31 PM #76:	PraetorXyn posted... Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. Easier to get into, no one wants to fully invest in a SMT game and the two games dont even play the same. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976173526] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons.</quote>Easier to get into, no one wants to fully invest in a SMT game and the two games dont even play the same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Piplup_Sniper 09/19/23 3:30:52 PM #77:	PraetorXyn posted... Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you. Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons. I recommend reading Satoshi Tajiri's biography on the conception of Pokemon. But that's the thing about Pokemon, it's a friendly series, and it also feels familiar. As the concept of Pokemon grew from the concept of Capsule Monsters, basically a more standard RPG experience, Sathoshi Tajiri drew more from his childhood. Pokemon at it's core is a fantastical version of Tajiri's childhood which he spent at a nearby forest capturing and studying bugs, and other animals, which has mass appeal. It's about exploring nature and interacting with nature with your cool, magical pet. Tajiri also became obsessed with the idea of Pokemon as friendly creatures that are like cats and dogs, both in the 2019 biography and in works he published in the 1990s he was comparing Pokemon as creatures that are friends to humans like cats and dogs in the real world, on top of that Pokemon designs aim to be approachable and friendly which is another aspect he became obsessed with and it payed off seeing as the lion's share of Pokemon's profit come from kids buying plushies and other merchandise. Another big push came with the original anime with Takeshi Shudo at it's helm. The anime was instrumental in pushing the Pokemon franchise, so much that GameFreak made Pokemon Yellow to more closely follow the anime. To this I also recommend reading the blog of the late Takeshi Shudo if you want a break down on the mechanizations of the original anime. --- Forbid it, Almighty God! <cite>Piplup_Sniper posted [p:976175580] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote>Ive never understood the appeal of Pokmon. Shin Megami Tensei came way earlier, and you recruit demons, evolve some of them, and fuse them together to make bigger badder demons, then you make them fight for you.Pokmon is the same thing but with dorky baby monsters instead of cool demons.</quote>I recommend reading Satoshi Tajiri's biography on the conception of Pokemon. But that's the thing about Pokemon, it's a friendly series, and it also feels familiar. As the concept of Pokemon grew from the concept of Capsule Monsters, basically a more standard RPG experience, Sathoshi Tajiri drew more from his childhood. Pokemon at it's core is a fantastical version of Tajiri's childhood which he spent at a nearby forest capturing and studying bugs, and other animals, which has mass appeal. It's about exploring nature and interacting with nature with your cool, magical pet. Tajiri also became obsessed with the idea of Pokemon as friendly creatures that are like cats and dogs, both in the 2019 biography and in works he published in the 1990s he was comparing Pokemon as creatures that are friends to humans like cats and dogs in the real world, on top of that Pokemon designs aim to be approachable and friendly which is another aspect he became obsessed with and it payed off seeing as the lion's share of Pokemon's profit come from kids buying plushies and other merchandise. Another big push came with the original anime with Takeshi Shudo at it's helm. The anime was instrumental in pushing the Pokemon franchise, so much that GameFreak made Pokemon Yellow to more closely follow the anime. To this I also recommend reading the blog of the late Takeshi Shudo if you want a break down on the mechanizations of the original anime. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 09/19/23 3:52:30 PM #78:	DementedDurian posted... I'm a 31-year-old succubus who wants to talk about cereal. cringe --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:976176050] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian posted... </cite><quote>I'm a 31-year-old succubus who wants to talk about cereal.</quote>cringe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crimsoness 09/19/23 3:53:00 PM #79:	I didn't finish it and don't feel particularly compelled to get the dlc --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam <cite>Crimsoness posted [p:976176059] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>I didn't finish it and don't feel particularly compelled to get the dlc </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GeneralKenobi85 09/19/23 4:13:22 PM #80:	Kim_Seong-a posted... Even if I was still playing Scarlet this bug wouldn't affect me since rando trainers were such nothingburger garbage I actively avoided them after the first few hours of gameplay. Even the blackbox trainers sucked. Game was fun to run around in but I lost all motivation to touch it after I completed the Paldeadex. >_> Yeah they messed up a lot with trainers. First of all the majority of them are just completely pointless to fight because they either have one or two Pokemon that are likely just going to get one-shot by your team. But because of the nature of the game, trainers take a bit of effort to actually locate. And the player has to initiate every single battle now. The only real reason to fight trainers is if you want the reward from the Pokemon Centers for beating X amount of a trainers in a single area. --- Ah, yes, the Negotiator: General Kenobi <sneaky beeping> <cite>GeneralKenobi85 posted [p:976176476] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>Even if I was still playing Scarlet this bug wouldn't affect me since rando trainers were such nothingburger garbage I actively avoided them after the first few hours of gameplay. Even the blackbox trainers sucked. Game was fun to run around in but I lost all motivation to touch it after I completed the Paldeadex. >_></quote>Yeah they messed up a lot with trainers. First of all the majority of them are just completely pointless to fight because they either have one or two Pokemon that are likely just going to get one-shot by your team. But because of the nature of the game, trainers take a bit of effort to actually locate. And the player has to initiate every single battle now. The only real reason to fight trainers is if you want the reward from the Pokemon Centers for beating X amount of a trainers in a single area. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 09/19/23 4:43:25 PM #81:	It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping crickets Digimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:976177058] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping cricketsDigimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheDurinator 09/19/23 4:52:05 PM #82:	Pokemon died when Z was canceled. <cite>TheDurinator posted [p:976177237] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Pokemon died when Z was canceled.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/19/23 5:17:01 PM #83:	Gwynevere posted... It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping crickets Digimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content Probably because, at least when it comes to the games, Pokemon has had a consistent gameplay loop that remained the same--for better or for worst--through each of its main games, PvP features in trading and battling, and allowed players to take their beloved Pokemon with them to the next games via transfers (of course, the latter of which was gutted going to Gen 8). Digimon has been too inconsistent with its own major game releases, with the games varying wildly in quality, and if the games even had PvP features, in most cases those Digimon were locked to the games that they were raised in. The (in)consistency also carried over to their anime, as while Digimon changed casts and experimented with concepts to varying degrees of success, Pokemon's remained consistent (again, for better or for worse) in following the adventures of Ash and Pikachu, at least until recently. And the big one is that Nintendo and TPC just put far more effort into marketing Pokemon globally than Bandai Namco does with Digimon. --- Eat the rich Destroy the GOP <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:976177684] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping cricketsDigimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content</quote>Probably because, at least when it comes to the games, Pokemon has had a consistent gameplay loop that remained the same--for better or for worst--through each of its main games, PvP features in trading and battling, and allowed players to take their beloved Pokemon with them to the next games via transfers (of course, the latter of which was gutted going to Gen 8).Digimon has been too inconsistent with its own major game releases, with the games varying wildly in quality, and if the games even had PvP features, in most cases those Digimon were locked to the games that they were raised in.The (in)consistency also carried over to their anime, as while Digimon changed casts and experimented with concepts to varying degrees of success, Pokemon's remained consistent (again, for better or for worse) in following the adventures of Ash and Pikachu, at least until recently.And the big one is that Nintendo and TPC just put far more effort into marketing Pokemon globally than Bandai Namco does with Digimon. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 09/19/23 5:28:21 PM #84:	Gwynevere posted... It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping crickets Digimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:976177863] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>It's a shame that Pokemon can release a big steaming pile of shit like this and it sell millions, but Digimon World Next Order gets chirping cricketsDigimon games have consistently been some good quality titles with tons of content</quote>If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendarylemur 09/19/23 5:37:34 PM #85:	On the subject of Monolith help or Nintendo development, the problem is actually that Gamefreak hasn't hired that many new people, and while more cooks in the kitchen isn't necessarily better, there's actually bigger problem because they refuse to hire more people. They grandfathered in a LOT of people from their GBC/GBA era. They're sprite experts, but they might as well be indie level in terms 3D graphics. This results in a lot of people who are fairly ineffective. You might as well discount 10-20 people from their dev team. They have the money to keep those people on the team AND hire more people who are competent. Gamefreak development is also so detached from Nintendo. IIRC they did get Monolith's help, but even the main games Nintendo makes are still mostly developed in-house and getting heavy support from Monolith and else in terms of optimization and making things look nicer than the system is capable of. If Gamefreak is incompetent, it won't matter even if they did get Monolith's help Monolith has like 5 studios now. They are capable of developing like 5 games at once if they so wished, just that most of those studios are delegated to support/co-development nowadays. We know this cuz they're usually credited as special thanks or support lul. At the time of XC2, they only had 2 studios and the bigger half of the entire company went to developing Odyssey and BOTW. So they're only gonna become a bigger and bigger part of Nintendo's devs. They have enough ppl on hand to delegate to co-developing a Pokemon game. I doubt they want to tho --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://i.imgur.com/krtFHol.jpg <cite>legendarylemur posted [p:976178035] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>On the subject of Monolith help or Nintendo development, the problem is actually that Gamefreak hasn't hired that many new people, and while more cooks in the kitchen isn't necessarily better, there's actually bigger problem because they refuse to hire more people. They grandfathered in a LOT of people from their GBC/GBA era. They're sprite experts, but they might as well be indie level in terms 3D graphics. This results in a lot of people who are fairly ineffective. You might as well discount 10-20 people from their dev team.They have the money to keep those people on the team AND hire more people who are competent. Gamefreak development is also so detached from Nintendo. IIRC they did get Monolith's help, but even the main games Nintendo makes are still mostly developed in-house and getting heavy support from Monolith and else in terms of optimization and making things look nicer than the system is capable of. If Gamefreak is incompetent, it won't matter even if they did get Monolith's helpMonolith has like 5 studios now. They are capable of developing like 5 games at once if they so wished, just that most of those studios are delegated to support/co-development nowadays. We know this cuz they're usually credited as special thanks or support lul. At the time of XC2, they only had 2 studios and the bigger half of the entire company went to developing Odyssey and BOTW. So they're only gonna become a bigger and bigger part of Nintendo's devs. They have enough ppl on hand to delegate to co-developing a Pokemon game.I doubt they want to tho </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIII 09/19/23 5:38:04 PM #86:	TheDurinator posted... Pokemon died when Z was canceled. Arceus was so good though --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! <cite>Will_VIII posted [p:976178045] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>TheDurinator posted... </cite><quote>Pokemon died when Z was canceled.</quote>Arceus was so good though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jokeaccountinc 09/20/23 6:01:49 AM #87:	DementedDurian is WARNED --- Welcome to our organization. <cite>Jokeaccountinc posted [p:976188151] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>DementedDurian is WARNED </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 09/20/23 6:29:08 AM #88:	I did the Kitakama clan quest and it worked for me >_> Thank goodness I barely did battles in the overworld --- Neon >_> <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:976188345] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>I did the Kitakama clan quest and it worked for me >_> Thank goodness I barely did battles in the overworld </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SayHeyyShohei 09/20/23 6:33:23 AM #89:	Lmao did they really store trainer data in a 8 bit integer? Lmfaooooo --- Welcome to the Twilight Zone <cite>SayHeyyShohei posted [p:976188369] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Lmao did they really store trainer data in a 8 bit integer? Lmfaooooo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WilliamPorygon 09/20/23 10:31:09 AM #90:	SayHeyyShohei posted... Lmao did they really store trainer data in a 8 bit integer? Lmfaooooo Well no, cause that would cap at 256 rather than 300 and also wouldn't track which specific trainers were defeated. I'm no programmer but it sounds like instead of every trainer being given its own unique flag for defeated or not they just allocated a portion of memory to a database for listing all the defeated trainers. That would be far less efficient cause then it has to check up to 300 bits instead of one every time it needs to know that information. But obviously they didn't give a crap about optimization so it doesn't surprise me. --- Dolphins are people too! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1404-cetacea-cove <cite>WilliamPorygon posted [p:976191271] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>SayHeyyShohei posted... </cite><quote>Lmao did they really store trainer data in a 8 bit integer? Lmfaooooo</quote>Well no, cause that would cap at 256 rather than 300 and also wouldn't track which specific trainers were defeated.I'm no programmer but it sounds like instead of every trainer being given its own unique flag for defeated or not they just allocated a portion of memory to a database for listing all the defeated trainers. That would be far less efficient cause then it has to check up to 300 bits instead of one every time it needs to know that information. But obviously they didn't give a crap about optimization so it doesn't surprise me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DKBananaSlamma 09/20/23 10:32:50 AM #91:	Why is Gamefreak so notorously bad and optimatizing things? I heard for Sun and Moon, they literally have dozens of copies of the same models because only one of is used per cutscene or something. --- Neon >_> <cite>DKBananaSlamma posted [p:976191307] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Why is Gamefreak so notorously bad and optimatizing things? I heard for Sun and Moon, they literally have dozens of copies of the same models because only one of is used per cutscene or something. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 09/20/23 10:54:32 AM #92:	DKBananaSlamma posted... Why is Gamefreak so notorously bad and optimatizing things? I heard for Sun and Moon, they literally have dozens of copies of the same models because only one of is used per cutscene or something. They have programmers that still make novice mistakes and it's been persisting ever since the franchise started, lol. It's kinda pathetic. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976191738] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>DKBananaSlamma posted... </cite><quote>Why is Gamefreak so notorously bad and optimatizing things? I heard for Sun and Moon, they literally have dozens of copies of the same models because only one of is used per cutscene or something.</quote>They have programmers that still make novice mistakes and it's been persisting ever since the franchise started, lol. It's kinda pathetic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/20/23 11:48:02 AM #93:	BakonBitz posted... They have programmers that still make novice mistakes and it's been persisting ever since the franchise started, lol. It's kinda pathetic. I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976192768] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>BakonBitz posted... </cite><quote>They have programmers that still make novice mistakes and it's been persisting ever since the franchise started, lol. It's kinda pathetic.</quote>I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BakonBitz 09/20/23 11:58:42 AM #94:	Baha05 posted... I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into. I'm pretty sure there are people who do that, they're just not the vocal ones on forums. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>BakonBitz posted [p:976192990] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into.</quote>I'm pretty sure there are people who do that, they're just not the vocal ones on forums. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PraetorXyn 09/20/23 11:59:28 AM #95:	Baha05 posted... I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into. are you under the impression that bugs arent reported to Gamefreak? Because they are. --- Console war in a nutshell: http://imgur.com/xA6GJZ9.png <cite>PraetorXyn posted [p:976193007] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Baha05 posted... </cite><quote>I mean to be fair you could probably find novice level issues in most all of the games being currently developed by veteran developers period. The problem is more that people need to constantly up their disappointments rather than be adult about it and criticize or send the issues coward to the developers to look into.</quote> are you under the impression that bugs arent reported to Gamefreak? Because they are. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 09/20/23 12:02:03 PM #96:	Good thing I didn't buy the DLC. I bought the one for Sw/Sh and only played part of the first so I ain't falling for that again. I'd say it's a better game than Sw/Sh but not by much. Return to Arceus. --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:976193051] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>Good thing I didn't buy the DLC. I bought the one for Sw/Sh and only played part of the first so I ain't falling for that again. I'd say it's a better game than Sw/Sh but not by much. Return to Arceus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Baha05 09/20/23 1:51:56 PM #97:	PraetorXyn posted... are you under the impression that bugs arent reported to Gamefreak? Because they are. I am under the impression that most online complaints are mostly regurgitated through forums with a minority of them getting shown to developers. --- "He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!" <cite>Baha05 posted [p:976195211] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>PraetorXyn posted... </cite><quote> are you under the impression that bugs arent reported to Gamefreak? Because they are.</quote>I am under the impression that most online complaints are mostly regurgitated through forums with a minority of them getting shown to developers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 09/20/23 2:08:48 PM #98:	StealThisSheen posted... If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad. Cyber Sleuth is an amazing RPG as well, but I've wanted an iteration on the Digimon World 1 formula since I played it as a kid, and finally got that with Next Order. I think it's amazing --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:976195547] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad.</quote>Cyber Sleuth is an amazing RPG as well, but I've wanted an iteration on the Digimon World 1 formula since I played it as a kid, and finally got that with Next Order. I think it's amazing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 09/20/23 2:09:48 PM #99:	StealThisSheen posted... If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad. CS is pretty fun but it definitely feels like a game made in early on in handheld hardware. It's very, very barebones. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:976195561] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite><quote>If you had said Cyber Sleuth, I'd have been with you. Next Order was pretty bad.</quote>CS is pretty fun but it definitely feels like a game made in early on in handheld hardware. It's very, very barebones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Delirious_Beard 09/20/23 2:25:31 PM #100:	the new Dragon Quest Monsters demo is p fun, but sadly it also kinda runs like shit --- https://i.imgur.com/hLHUnOI.jpg You act like I don't know my own way home <cite>Delirious_Beard posted [p:976195880] in Pokemon S/... [t:80570352]...</cite> <quote>the new Dragon Quest Monsters demo is p fun, but sadly it also kinda runs like shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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