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Antifar
10/08/23 9:59:37 PM
#301:


https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1711185184177975447
The article itself is behind a paywall:
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/08/23 10:18:36 PM
#302:


NoMeLx22x posted...
Why can't we ever have a conversation where people recognize that absolutely nobody fucking supports Hamas' actions here. Nobody is defending them. Nobody is supporting them. Nobody is in favor of what they are doing.

Like to even attribute that to any person is gross.

Because people here just cant help themselves when they want to say that Israel deserved it.


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Shadow_Don
10/08/23 10:22:33 PM
#303:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1711185184177975447

Yea. I said in the other topic that we probably won't see a boost like Bush got after 9/11. Hopefully this means cooler heads prevail.

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NoMeLx22x
10/08/23 10:24:09 PM
#304:


FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Because people here just cant help themselves when they want to say that Israel deserved it.

Quote those posts that say that Israel deserved it.

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luigi33
10/08/23 10:24:18 PM
#305:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1711185184177975447
The article itself is behind a paywall:
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000
Thats definitely a good sign.

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ClayGuida
10/08/23 11:36:29 PM
#306:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/5/AAXc3pAAE6iZ.png

Where are these people supposed to go?

An entire family of 19 and 5 bystanders gone, because they were 100 meters too close to another house being ordered to evacuate.

This is not sustainable.

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Smashingpmkns
10/09/23 12:19:16 AM
#307:


ClayGuida posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/5/AAXc3pAAE6iZ.png

Where are these people supposed to go?

An entire family of 19 and 5 bystanders gone, because they were 100 meters too close to another house being ordered to evacuate.

This is not sustainable.
Very kind of Israel to warn the fish to leave the barrel before they start shooting

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Kinny100
10/09/23 12:33:11 AM
#308:


>260 dead in the desert rave
this is insanity.

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Agent_Stroud
10/09/23 1:06:23 AM
#309:


Kinny100 posted...
>260 dead in the desert rave
this is insanity.

My God that is absolutely devastating to hear. My condolences to the loved ones of the deceased who are no doubt suffering as a result of this escalation in rhetoric and conflict, as theyre the victims in all of this.

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gmanthebest
10/09/23 4:15:06 AM
#310:


ClayGuida posted...
They knew she was German?
Does that really matter when they went specifically to kill civilians? Or does that make it worse?

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invertedlegdrop
10/09/23 11:29:38 AM
#311:


https://youtu.be/HWZ2bNSEfww?si=cqbRA1TQTj--J87Q

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ClayGuida
10/09/23 1:56:37 PM
#312:


https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1711329340804186619?t=KVlyV8hPcv2f5n5ZOSQu6w&s=19

It's a giant game for these fucks.

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ThyCorndog
10/09/23 2:01:27 PM
#313:


Yes, likud and their coalition are fascists. Fascists can only thrive during conflict, so this is as good for them as it is for Hamas

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Evil_Nice_Guy
10/09/23 2:04:15 PM
#314:


ClayGuida posted...
https://twitter.com/haaretzcom/status/1711329340804186619?t=KVlyV8hPcv2f5n5ZOSQu6w&s=19

It's a giant game for these fucks.

@ClayGuida Netanyahu is absolutely a giant turd, but do you also agree that Hamas are not good guys either?
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Kinny100
10/09/23 2:22:21 PM
#315:


gmanthebest posted...
Does that really matter when they went specifically to kill civilians? Or does that make it worse?
i read they were screaming she was an IDF soldier while parading her dead body around.

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ClayGuida
10/09/23 2:47:58 PM
#316:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
@ClayGuida Netanyahu is absolutely a giant turd, but do you also agree that Hamas are not good guys either?
Who thinks they're good guys? It's clear that they're working together to retain power, at the expense of innocent civilians.

Fuck them both.

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Evil_Nice_Guy
10/09/23 2:48:34 PM
#317:


ClayGuida posted...
Who thinks they're good guys? It's clear that they're working together to retain power, at the expense of innocent civilians.

Fuck them both.

How is Netanyahu working with Hamas?
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s0nicfan
10/09/23 2:55:26 PM
#318:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
How is Netanyahu working with Hamas?

Some folks have already gone full "George Bush did 9/11" on this attack and are peddling the conspiracy that Netanyahu knew this was coming and let it happen to deflect from controversies around his presidency.

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FlyEaglesFly24
10/09/23 2:56:00 PM
#319:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
How is Netanyahu working with Hamas?

Im hoping for his sake that you misunderstood what he wrote.

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Kinny100
10/09/23 2:59:22 PM
#320:


Netanyahu is not working with Hamas, but he definitely benefitted from this attack significantly.

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Questionmarktarius
10/09/23 3:00:45 PM
#321:


s0nicfan posted...
Some folks have already gone full "George Bush did 9/11" on this attack and are peddling the conspiracy that Netanyahu knew this was coming and let it happen to deflect from controversies around his presidency.
"Hey, Hamas is planning something" doesn't mean Israel has any real idea what or when.
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Kinny100
10/09/23 3:02:17 PM
#322:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/

Egypt claimed they repeatedly warned Israel, including a personal call to Netanyahu 2 weeks ago.

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ThyCorndog
10/09/23 3:02:23 PM
#323:


bibi and his fellow war criminals don't need to know what's coming. they just need to take advantage of whatever horrible thing hamas does and go from there

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UnholyMudcrab
10/09/23 3:02:46 PM
#324:


Kinny100 posted...
Netanyahu is not working with Hamas, but he definitely benefitted from this attack significantly.
Has he? Golda Meir was forced to resign after a similar failure in intelligence led to the surprise attack at the beginning of the Yom Kippur War.

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Kinny100
10/09/23 3:04:47 PM
#325:


every unpopular political leader benefits when there's an attack from an external force.

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Kinny100
10/09/23 3:06:20 PM
#326:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
Has he? Golda Meir was forced to resign after a similar failure in intelligence led to the surprise attack at the beginning of the Yom Kippur War.
Netanyahu is a worm. He'll worm out of this intelligence failure.

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Cheater87
10/09/23 3:18:25 PM
#327:


Kinny100 posted...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/egypt-intelligence-official-says-israel-ignored-repeated-warnings-of-something-big/

Egypt claimed they repeatedly warned Israel, including a personal call to Netanyahu 2 weeks ago.

Yikes

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Metroid_Food
10/09/23 3:42:35 PM
#328:


Antifar posted...
https://twitter.com/NathanJRobinson/status/1711185184177975447
The article itself is behind a paywall:
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/editorial/2023-10-08/ty-article-opinion/netanyahu-bears-responsibility/0000018b-0b9d-d8fc-adff-6bfd1c880000

Agreed completely.
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ClayGuida
10/09/23 4:43:43 PM
#329:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
How is Netanyahu working with Hamas?
How does one read a post, reply to said post, then ask something that's literally addressed in said post?

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Kinny100
10/09/23 5:22:28 PM
#330:


Metroid_Food posted...
Agreed completely.
this is big. that's israel's flagship newspaper.

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Ronaldo
10/09/23 5:26:07 PM
#331:


Palestinian and Syrian refugees and Hezbollah (Iran) with aggressive actions and words towards Israel have forced my family in south Lebanon to flee their towns and go to Beirut. Fuck these people and all the hardships they have brought Lebanon.
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divot1338
10/09/23 5:32:05 PM
#332:


I posed that same question this morning. In my opinion Netanyahu has failed in his role in two ways; by ignoring the growing problems from the treatment of Gaza and in how he responded after the attack. He should have been cautioning restraint and patience because the way theyre going about this is going to lead to 3-4000 Palestinian deaths and most of the hostages if they try to rescue them through military force.

This is like the kind of blame a negligent factory owner has if the place burns down and kills a bunch of people.

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Kinny100
10/09/23 5:33:43 PM
#333:


calling for restraint and patience doesn't get you any votes though.

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Left4Doge
10/09/23 5:33:49 PM
#334:


Fenriswolf posted...
To wreck Biden's attempt to normalize relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which would screw Palestine l since under the proposed agreement, Israel only gave their "word" to SA to treat the Palestinians better. Now SA has to deal with a population sympathetic to Palestine, while Bibi's coalition partners don't even want the two state solution.
I mean I think it's more that Iran doesn't want Israel working with the Sunni ME countries against it. Iran funds Hamas. So they get their proxy to start shit to make signing the deals toxic.

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divot1338
10/09/23 5:39:53 PM
#335:


Kinny100 posted...
calling for restraint and patience doesn't get you any votes though.
They should be howling for his head. At some point theyre going to get past their current feelings of terror and nausea and start looking for someone to blame.

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Takuya_Lee
10/09/23 5:49:54 PM
#336:


divot1338 posted...
They should be howling for his head. At some point theyre going to get past their current feelings of terror and nausea and start looking for someone to blame.

If I'm reading the news reports right, it's starting to happen in Israel.

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Evil_Nice_Guy
10/09/23 8:23:53 PM
#337:


ClayGuida posted...
How does one read a post, reply to said post, then ask something that's literally addressed in said post?

@ClayGuida My friend, I didn't mean any disrespect. To me it really sounded like you were saying that they were both in cahoots with each other.
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10/10/23 11:03:32 AM
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Cheater87
10/10/23 12:00:26 PM
#338:


CNN just asked the topic title.

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The_shibe
10/10/23 12:16:24 PM
#339:


Cheater87 posted...
CNN just asked the topic title.

tc is wolf blitzer confirmed

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name_unknown
10/10/23 1:26:56 PM
#340:


Hamas killed the chance for independence but Israel wasn't offering it any way. Year after year it was taking more land and forced removal for Palestine.

Gaza will be the first one turned into a police state, West Bank is a bigger area so not sure if that could happen there.
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Shadow_Don
10/10/23 1:29:42 PM
#341:


name_unknown posted...
Hamas killed the chance for independence but Israel wasn't offering it any way. Year after year it was taking more land and forced removal for Palestine.

Gaza will be the first one turned into a police state, West Bank is a bigger area so not sure if that could happen there.

They already have police checkpoints everywhere in West Bank.

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Takuya_Lee
10/10/23 1:33:26 PM
#342:


Kinny100 posted...
Netanyahu is a worm. He'll worm out of this intelligence failure.

I wouldn't be so sure, especially if its implied in any way that this was allowed to happen.

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Kinny100
10/10/23 2:35:31 PM
#344:


holy shit.

they found decapitated babies =/

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The_shibe
10/10/23 2:59:10 PM
#345:


Kinny100 posted...
holy shit.

they found decapitated babies =/

thats fucking depraved

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10/10/23 5:02:42 PM
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ClayGuida
10/10/23 7:00:47 PM
#346:


Kinny100 posted...
holy shit.

they found decapitated babies =/
Disgusting.

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Enclave
10/10/23 7:07:01 PM
#347:


Hamas' end goal is to provoke Israel into a massive attack and further brutalising of the Palestinian people. Nothing better for recruitment and spread of anti-Semitism than provoking a huge response.

The only way you're going to get extremists to lose power is for the oppressed people to no longer be oppressed. As long as Palestinians are under apartheid it's just going to keep creating more extremists.

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luigi33
10/10/23 7:36:40 PM
#349:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
I know their heart is in the right place, but I don't think they even know how gay people are treated in Palestine (you can go to jail just for being LGBTQ+ there):

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/9/AAfdDqAAE68t.jpg
Whats with her feet??

is this AI generated?

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ClayGuida
10/10/23 7:40:19 PM
#350:


Evil_Nice_Guy posted...
I know their heart is in the right place, but I don't think they even know how gay people are treated in Palestine (you can go to jail just for being LGBTQ+ there):

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/9/AAfdDqAAE68t.jpg
Clearly AI generated, but at the end of the day, you should be better than those that want you dead.

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