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MI4_REAL 10/16/23 1:15:55 PM #1: |
They recycle the metals, of course, but the plastics are just dumped, even when you pay for the service.
Apparently, the most recycled thing is the automobile, to no ones surprise. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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R1masher 10/16/23 1:28:15 PM #2: |
They got all these cute little recycling receptacles on every floor in this Viacom building in Times Square and then it all goes into one compactor, but it makes everyone feel like theyre doing their part
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Foppe 10/16/23 1:32:25 PM #4: |
You dump your plastics?
Sweden recycles ~10% of it, then burn the rest for heat. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 10/16/23 1:33:17 PM #5: |
You can recycle something only so many times before it's unusable, so yeah, it's a scam.
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CoyoteTheGreat 10/16/23 1:34:20 PM #6: |
Its a psychological scam. The point is to first of all put psychological pressure on the individual into thinking that the environment is their responsibilty, and problems in the environment amount to them not doing enough. It also eases people's concerns about the environment to see things like recycling publicly.
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Cocytus 10/16/23 1:36:31 PM #7: |
Where have all the flowers gone...
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DragulaRULEZ 10/16/23 1:36:43 PM #8: |
I think it was John Oliver that did a segment on it, plastic almost never gets used to make something. It's best hope is the lining in a rug.
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Thermador446 10/16/23 1:38:11 PM #9: |
Yeah.
But I took a chemistry class where we did calculations on aluminum ore smelting vs recycling. It definitely helps for metals. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeGuyUO 10/16/23 1:49:20 PM #10: |
It's just to make people feel better ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamil 10/16/23 2:08:07 PM #11: |
DragulaRULEZ posted...
I think it was John Oliver that did a segment on it, plastic almost never gets used to make something. It's best hope is the lining in a rug. Those items that say they are made from recycled plastic items are just lying or marketing bs? I know a lot stuff is just spin, but I'd like to think not everything is. --- "A lesser talent couldn't have pulled it off. But I'm willing to bet on BoJack Horseman. Are you?" ~~Cuddlywhiskers on the new show ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SiO4 10/16/23 2:17:03 PM #12: |
Cocytus posted...
Where have all the flowers gone... ...Long time passing... But that is more of an Anti-War song. A great song though for sure. Pete Seegar for life In this case though, this would be the song. --- What Have They Done to the Rain Just a little rain, falling all around The grass lifts its head to the heavenly sound Just a little rain, just a little rain What have they done to the rain? Just a little boy standing in the rain The gentle rain that falls for years And the grass is gone, the boy disappears And rain keeps falling, like helpless tears And what have they done to the rain? Just a little breeze, out of the sky The leaves nod their head as the breeze blows by Just a little breeze with, some smoke in its eye. What have they done to the rain? Just a little boy standing in the rain The gentle rain that falls for years And the grass is gone, the boy disappears And rain keeps falling like helpless tears And what have they done to the rain What have they done to the rain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbjrPrBGe4 --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 10/16/23 2:18:31 PM #13: |
things being "recycleable" might just be a scam since that just means it's possible. Doesn't say anything about the amount of effort required and whether or not it will actually be done.
things made of recycled materials are less of a scam since it's basically proof that the recycling part actually happened --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aressar 10/16/23 2:30:28 PM #14: |
If done properly, no. The more a society reuses and redistributes its used material, the more it becomes a circular economy, meaning it will be less dependent on finite resources and less damage will be done to the environment and ecosystems, which human societies rely on as well.
It requires a lot of people to be properly educated and motivated on the subject though, as well as governments giving companies incentives to make this possible. With right-wing populism being on the rise however, my hopes for this to be effective aren't great. --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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invertedlegdrop 10/16/23 2:32:45 PM #15: |
Years ago there was a study and they found the only material that is cheaper to recycle then trash is aluminum cans...
Everything else costs more to recycle than trash... so recycle cans but dont bother with anything else... --- Political correctness is the fascism of the 90s-Roger Ebert I don't have pet peeves, I have major psychotic ******* hatreds-George Carlin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 10/16/23 2:44:32 PM #16: |
invertedlegdrop posted...
Years ago there was a study and they found the only material that is cheaper to recycle then trash is aluminum cans... Steel, copper, silver, gold, titanium, rare earth elements, etc are all far cheaper to recycle. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Link_of_time 10/16/23 2:45:46 PM #17: |
Recycling as a whole is misinformation. People will argue plastics aren't recyclable, economically or physically, and hence recycling is a scam. Truth is we never really even tried to recycle plastics. We just decided it was easier to throw it out, or ship it to another country. The latter, lead to huge misinformation about what countries pollute the most. Recycling works environmentally, but not economically, so some will say it is a scam. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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radical_rhino 10/16/23 2:47:13 PM #18: |
The point of recycling isnt to save money though (although many local city governments would disagree).
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RyukSan 10/16/23 2:55:38 PM #19: |
If recycling is done right, no. The problem is many places process recycles in a bad way. Things people think is recyclable, isn't actually recyclable. A lot of people wishcycling. A lot of people don't understand just how important it is for recycling to be sorted as that shit has to be processed by someone. I only touched the surface here, but it's not necessarily a scam. The problem is the way we process recycling that it mind as well be a scam in many parts of the country. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HOON 10/16/23 3:04:19 PM #20: |
Foppe posted...
You dump your plastics?Jesus!!! They BURN plastic?! For HEAT?!?!?! Isnt that highly toxic? --- R.I.P. #43 "Kill all tires" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kuuko 10/16/23 3:09:15 PM #21: |
Plastic recycling is a little bit of a scam yes. TLDR is plastic industry knew plastic products were horrifically polluting the world and so they heavily funded campaigns into plastic recycling so that they could make it seem like the problem is consumers' problems to fix and not theirs. And that it was okay for them to continue churning out tons of plastic.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-the-public-into-believing-plastic-would-be-recycled --- http://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 10/16/23 3:12:03 PM #22: |
Tom_Joad posted...
Steel, copper, silver, gold, titanium, rare earth elements, etc are all far cheaper to recycle.It's also not a matter or it being cheaper, but it being (allegedly) better for the environment. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the_rowan 10/16/23 3:18:58 PM #23: |
"Plastic" is not a single material, and different plastics require different facilities to break them down. In a country as large as the US, most areas are not going to have a local facility that can break down anything other than the two most common plastics (the type in water bottles and the type in milk jugs), if that.
From there, you also have to consider that many services just dump the whole bin as waste if it's not sorted properly, without most people knowing how to sort plastics. Aluminum recycling is pretty real everywhere, to my knowledge. Paper recycling I know less about. --- "That is why war is so tragic. To win means to make victims of your opponents and give birth to hatred." - Kratos Aurion, Tales of Symphonia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragulaRULEZ 10/16/23 4:59:16 PM #24: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fiu9GSOmt8E
Plastics: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver Age-restricted, probably because of the dildo... --- "I'm going to have to disagree with everything you say from now on. Go ahead, say babies shouldn't be skinned alive, see which side I'm on." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 10/16/23 5:00:39 PM #25: |
The recycling of metals and glass is legitimate. It may even one day soon be absolutely necessary.
Everything else is either not possible (plastics) or harms the environment more than it helps it (paper). --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 10/16/23 5:02:41 PM #26: |
SomeGuyUO posted...
It's just to make people feel better 30 years ago maybe. Now it's to make us feel like we're ignorant fucking scumlords who hate kids, birds, pizza, and the rest of the universe. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 10/16/23 5:07:36 PM #27: |
Xenogears15 posted...
The recycling of metals and glass is legitimate. It may even one day soon be absolutely necessary. --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 10/16/23 5:16:27 PM #28: |
it's more of a lie than a scam.
we used to just sell most of our shit to China to let them deal with it. I'm sure some of it got recycled. I think they stopped buying our garbage as much these days though --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 10/17/23 1:22:33 AM #29: |
HOON posted...
Jesus!!! They BURN plastic?! For HEAT?!?!?!Yeah, high chimneys. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 10/17/23 1:24:58 AM #30: |
Just in the US, it seems.
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_____Cait 10/17/23 1:28:01 AM #31: |
Japan kind of does it right. We have special days of the week where we throw out certain things. Monday is plastics only. Tuesday and friday are burnables. Wednesday is bottles. Once or twice a month we have a day for misc items, like vacuums etc.
If you tried this in the US, people would cry about their freedom to throw out their pants on thursday or something. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zwijn 10/17/23 1:32:47 AM #32: |
_____Cait posted... Japan kind of does it right. We have special days of the week where we throw out certain things. Monday is plastics only. Tuesday and friday are burnables. Wednesday is bottles. Once or twice a month we have a day for misc items, like vacuums etc.The Netherlands does this too, but its what happens after thats the scam. Trash and recycling companies cannot deal with the way stuff is separated and even say to just throw everything in the trash so they can recycle stuff themselves. Local governments forced the separated recycling issue though. The bags with recyclables just go straight to landfills or are illegally shipped to China or Thailand in containers hidden between others. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aridi 10/17/23 1:52:26 AM #33: |
_____Cait posted...
Japan kind of does it right. We have special days of the week where we throw out certain things. Monday is plastics only. Tuesday and friday are burnables. Wednesday is bottles. Once or twice a month we have a day for misc items, like vacuums etc.We do this in the US as well. Why the needless attack? --- When in doubt, do something. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thermador446 10/17/23 1:56:00 AM #34: |
Xenogears15 posted...
The recycling of metals and glass is legitimate. It may even one day soon be absolutely necessary. I didn't think they really recycled glass any more. I doubt we'll run out of sand any time soon. --- "While you were wasting your time castrating a priceless antique, I was systematically feeding babies to hungry mutated puppies!" -The Monarch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronTusk 10/17/23 1:58:58 AM #35: |
I used to run a recycling center. -Aluminium recycling is not a scam. The scam part is that bauxite ore often comes from slave labor. -Glass, depends. Most of my center's glass got shipped to China and it had to be hand sorted by color. The shipping is expensive and causes pollution. -Plastic is mostly a scam. Only #1 PET has much of a chance and it has limited shelf life. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MI4_REAL 10/17/23 1:59:41 AM #36: |
radical_rhino posted...
The point of recycling isnt to save money though (although many local city governments would disagree). The reason why we got all this single use plastic waste was Coca-Cola, to save costs. Now everything is in plastic bottles. We already had a system. The glass bottles would be re-used. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MI4_REAL 10/17/23 2:00:45 AM #37: |
Just glad this is taken seriously.
I wanted an environmental job, but that was not in the cards. --- "Er...well, y'know. You can't make an omelette without um...destroying a forest.....or something" -Black Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 10/17/23 2:25:22 AM #38: |
How we do in Sweden:
Aluminium and plastic bottles with drinkable liquids, like coca cola or water, got a Container-deposit legislation. Basically we pay 10 cent extra per bottle. Every big food store got a recycle machine where we put our used bottles, and it gives us those 10 cents back. The garbage truck comes once every two weeks and we pay them based on the weight of our garbage. We got nearby recycle stations, which are basically just metallic containers, where we throw glass, paper, metall, plastic, cardboard, etc. If we have much to throw away, we go to the landfill, which is basically a bigger recycle station with bigger containers. They also take stuff like wood, batteries, electric devices, etc, that normal recycle stations doesnt. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sonic_Cannon 10/17/23 2:51:35 AM #39: |
Depends where you are in the world.
Here in NZ we've got in most cities:
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YugiNoob 10/17/23 2:59:00 AM #40: |
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Jagr_68 10/17/23 7:26:19 AM #41: |
YugiNoob posted...
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Glob 10/17/23 7:28:01 AM #42: |
Recycling isnt a thing here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 10/17/23 10:58:05 AM #43: |
Aridi posted...
We do this in the US as well. Why the needless attack? Because... we don't. There's no universal recycling/trash program in the US like there is in other countries. It's usually done on the (extreme) local level. On Long Island, the recycling programs vary town to town, with some not even having a recycling program. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ajiri 10/17/23 11:07:20 AM #44: |
I saw the most reasonable and realistic way to deal with trash and recycle, New York state does it, it all goes to a giant incinerator that generator that creates energy, all of the excess gasses that a released is trapped and filtered so it doesn't pollute the area, the metal that doesn't burned gets reused.
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Kalk 10/17/23 11:14:31 AM #45: |
No recycling means America becomes the soda can junk yard of the world. Cans would be all over the streets.
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Lordgold666 10/17/23 11:48:02 AM #46: |
Glad we banned plastic straws
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C_Pain 10/17/23 12:02:44 PM #48: |
I always think of the Penn and Teller bullshit episode on the matter.
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tripleh213 10/17/23 12:03:44 PM #49: |
But Garbage Island
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Aressar 10/17/23 12:13:26 PM #50: |
Zwijn posted...
The Netherlands does this too, but its what happens after thats the scam. Trash and recycling companies cannot deal with the way stuff is separated and even say to just throw everything in the trash so they can recycle stuff themselves. Local governments forced the separated recycling issue though. The bags with recyclables just go straight to landfills or are illegally shipped to China or Thailand in containers hidden between others. As a Dutchman, I'm kind of curious about this. Do you have a source? I do know that several cities have done away with the plastic trash deposits and have it automatically seperated from the general waste afterwards by waste processing companies such as this one: https://www.avr.nl/en/waste-and-materials/ --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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