Current Events > I'm trying to give the new SW trilogy a fair shot, I really am

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Sequel plot is basically palpatine getting revenge on the new republic he orders them destroyed with his puppet snoke.Starkiller base basically destroys the new republic planets.

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DarkBuster22904 posted...

It really wasn't. By far some of the absolute worst fight choreography in the series, and filled with so many technical errors that it's impossible to not notice once you've seen it.

Everyone dunked on it online for weeks. The background guards basically acted like the mooks in the original power rangers - where they just kind of shuffled back and forth doing nothing - and once you see it it's just so bad.

I still haven't even watched the last one. I just kinda gave up. Haven't watched the Solo movie or Rogue One either, even though people say they were good.

They even ruined what I liked about Mandalorian by bringing in existing characters.

Rey is just super amazing immediately and its boring.

Crap like the sequel trilogy is what happens when cool stories get turned into a Franchise. You need more and more content, and eventually the well of good, coherent ideas is runs dry, but shit keeps getting pumped out with the Star Wars coat of paint slapped on it. If the sequel trilogy was a good story idea, Lucas would have made that story, or something like it, back in the late 70s and early 80s. But he didn't. He made the movies we got back then. He gave us a masterpiece of a swashbuckling fairy tale set in space with wizards, knights, magic, monsters, a princess, a roguish anti-hero who turned into a good guy, and family drama. Because you always use the best ideas first. These Disney writers are just putting the leftover scraps and subpar rehashes of all the good stuff on the screen at this point. All the good, interesting ideas have already been done.

Lolllll handing Ben a lightsaber through the force

Don't hate me but I kinda liked the idea of passing stuff back and forth between each other via the Force. I just wish it was used for more interesting things than that one payoff.

Damn Palps is going full world eater mode

I am all de Jedi

VeggetaX posted...

I mean this topic is a hate star wars topic bro

On the contrary, you've gotta be Fatal Attraction-levels of madly in love with the franchise to actually think the Prequels were the best of the bunch, like TC apparently does.

swear this has every trope in the book

Lmfaooo Poe asking if he could hit at the end

rey you cant just change your last name smh

rey palpatine through and through

Apparently there is another trilogy in the works, set 15 years after Rise or Skywalker

With Rey leading the new order. And RJ is taking charge again

In June 2023, Disney oversaw a massive restructuring of its many franchises, including outlining the release dates for new Star Wars movies. Three dates have been officially confirmed for Lucasfilm releases: May 22, 2026, December 18, 2026, and December 17, 2027.

RespectWomen posted...

Apparently there is another trilogy in the works, set 15 years after Rise or Skywalker

With Rey leading the new order. And RJ is taking charge again

In June 2023, Disney oversaw a massive restructuring of its many franchises, including outlining the release dates for new Star Wars movies. Three dates have been officially confirmed for Lucasfilm releases: May 22, 2026, December 18, 2026, and December 17, 2027.

It's not a trilogy (as yet) nor is Rian Johnson in charge. There's 3 dates set but they haven't been confirmed to all be part of the same storyline. The movie Rian Johnson was attached to is completely different, too. I'm not sure if he's even still doing it?

Ah yeah seems I may have misread the part about Johnson

We all wanted to give the ST a fair chance, then we saw it and many judged it to be lacking and pretty shitty.

So what were yalls complaints about the ST?

This may seem silly but my biggest complaint is that ultimately nothing has really changed in the Star Wars universe.

For a nine-movie series, I'd want something to be different as a result of it all.

The ST, when all is said and done, was "a new bad guy showed up (same as the old bad guy) and we beat them".

And then I guess life in the galaxy goes back to normal.

One idea TLJ floated that I liked was "what would the galaxy be like without the Jedi or the Sith?" but it didn't follow through. It didn't go hard enough to break the cycle.

I don't necessarily know what that would look like for the Force-sensitive peoples of the galaxy. Would there be a new singular group? A bunch of different groups?

But I think it'd be more interesting anyway, than what we ended up with.

Ricemills posted...

Luke didn't have Jedi training when he pull his lighsaber when hanging upside down in that ice cave.

And the explanation is simple, because they're the main characters. It's their privilege.

Um yeah he did. Not a ton but obi was training him on the Millennium Falcon

Revocation68 posted...

I remember seeing force awakens in theater and being intrigued at the beginning....then about halfway, little over halfway etc completely checking out on the movie. Never bothered watching the two movies after and it seems I made the right decision.

For example, who thought Kylo Ren was a good character? He's a fucking twerp. I'll take Vader any day

He is a twerp, but thats the point. Him tossing away the helmet was him saying hes not gonna just be a worse Vader. I mean, if he had a planned out character arc, he couldve been more than what he ended up being. Unfortunately, he still was the best part of the ST.

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I see you and I raise you that the Jedi as an organization are not that important, and ultimately need to be moved past, because of how incredibly flawed they are. How bureaucratic they became. How much of a police force they became.

I will say that Star Wars isn't Star Wars without the Force, but don't agree with the Jedi being so essential.

Of course I say that making no concession that SW demands to make money. I realize that starting fresh without the Jedi Order specifically is a probably a death sentence for the media giant.

So the obvious concession to make there is a Jedi Order that is not what the Jedi Order became. Something less involved in galactic politics, less put on the front lines, less lightsaber diplomacy.

RespectWomen posted...

i think the prequels are better than the og movies, by a county mile

why do you expect anyone to care about what you say about star wars when you post this

Sorry for droppin fax

Liking the PT more then the OT is his choice, it is still true SW and the story is there again made by Lucas.

I like the PT more then the OT only slightly but love how they mirror each other in places and the call backs.

As time goes on, more and more OT nostalgia will die, and PT and ST will rise up and come in to balance with the OT....

.... nope. Those noobs are wrong. OT is the best, and thinking differently means ur bad.

I dont understand what people liked about Star Wars.

I dont mean about the new movies.

I mean the entire thing.

littlebro07 posted...

Kylo was just wrecked by Chewie's crossbow thing so he was fighting with a physical handicap and he had just murdered his father so had an emotional handicap, so it makes a little more sense that Rey was able to keep up with him

She was also getting her but handed to her tell she tapped in the force and immidiately went for his weak spots. Had him defend way outward then struck him on the otherside and it just went downhill from there. I think the first movie was really good and it was one of my favorites.

TLJ does so much wrong it's ridiculous. The casino planet was literally Space Vegas when there was so much star wars stuff they could have done with the casino. The starbombers were dumb since we have these things called Y-wings. Leia should have died in that scene instead of just coming back like that or they could have had her create a force bubble or something. The biggest grievance I have is how Luke was treated and then anticlimactically killed off.

The throne room fight was horribly corrupted and mistakes literally had to be edited out. (Don't know if it's true or not but supposedly Daisy didn't want to do a second take or practice the choreography). Oh and the "love" scene between rose and finn at the end was pure garbage, "we don't win by fighting what we hate, but defending what we love". How she not only some how marched his speeder's speed but caught up to him and was able to hit him head on from the side. It was one of the most jarring things in cinema in general.

The "woke" stuff didn't bother me. Sure it was a little obvious and annoying but it's whatever, it's such small potatoes compared to the other glaring shit that we got. While we are at it, Holdo didn't bother me either except her treatment of Poe and her random about face before her sacrifice, which was cool as shit even though it isn't something that happens but cool enough for a one off.

Last thing, the freakin fuel situation was dumb, when has star wars ever really mentioned fuel or had a fuel issue? It's just made up stuff they added for tension, which was also jarring.

I think the trilogy would have been fine if they just had JJ Abraham's do it all or had rian Johnson do it all. I feel their directing styles and story making clashed.

The ST is a textbook example of what happens when you dont have a long term plan and keep shuffling directors who plan to undermine each other.

The moment they lost me was when I realized the whole casino planet sequence was a giant waste of my time.

Nok_Su_Kow posted...

The moment they lost me was when I realized the whole casino planet sequence was a giant waste of my time.

And also a broken aesop, since a) Finn should know that the mess will be cleaned up by working class or slaves, not the rich and b) Disney is in no position to be making anti-capitalist statements.

Tora_Sami posted...

While we are at it, Holdo didn't bother me either except her treatment of Poe and her random about face before her sacrifice, which was cool as shit even though it isn't something that happens but cool enough for a one off.

She bothers me mostly because the movie tries SO hard to push the idea that she was right and Poe was wrong, but it just doesn't work.

Like, a commander that none of these people have seen before strolls onto the scene, takes command in a crisis moment, and does nothing to inspire loyalty in her troops. The situation gets worse by the minute, fuel is running out, their three ships have fallen to one, most of the high command has been wiped out, the fighter hanger is gone, and it looks to all in sundry like they're just sitting there, waiting to die. Meanwhile, the commander, who has a plan that she knows will work, is standing around keeping her cards so close to her chest that her own Bridge Crew doesn't think she's doing anything, and telling the proven leaders (whom the crew already knows) to shut up and fuck off. And we're expected to believe the crew SHOULDNT mutiny? We're expected to accept the militaristic "blindly follow orders because your military superiors just know better" stance? In Star Wars, a series thar has been extremely critical of that idea in every single piece of media it has ever put out?

Bullshit. Holdo was a crappy commander that the movie tries to sell as amazing, mostly by just telling us she is. And Poe did nothing wrong. Even something as simple as "we suspect there's a mole on the ship" would have gone some length to fix the problem, but the movie doesn't do that. Just some bullshit anime line about "never give up hope" from a character who has inspired none. If you're going to lead your unit, which at this point represents the last amd the ENTIRETY of your cause, on what looks to everyone like a suicide mission, you have to give them SOME reason to trust you, and just pulling rank isn't it.

Of the Prequels and Sequels, the Force Awakens was the best movie.

The problem is its not a very good one, and like Revenge of the Sith, which is the best Prequel, its accompanied by two other films in a trilogy that are utter garbage.

RespectWomen posted...

i think the prequels are better than the og movies, by a county mile

And there goes any credibility you might've had.

NittanyLions23 posted...

I dont understand what people liked about Star Wars.

I dont mean about the new movies.

I mean the entire thing.

Trolliest troll account that ever trolled

RespectWomen posted...

So what were yalls complaints about the ST?

unsatisfying treatments of all the OT characters
all of RoS being hokey nonsense
the casino planet stuff on TLJ