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cjsdowg
11/05/23 8:05:18 PM
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https://twitter.com/FlagBlack007/status/1721288116667822460

Democrats really know how to win over their most loyal voting base.

Also before someone suggests it , this isn't an endorsement of Republican.

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Turbam
11/05/23 8:06:55 PM
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They ain't black

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JuanCarlos1
11/05/23 8:08:29 PM
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Is this NEGA Candace Owens?

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Forty_Niners
11/05/23 8:09:37 PM
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Not many people understand civics.

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hockeybub89
11/05/23 8:09:51 PM
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No one should support Biden, but he still needs to win

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emblem-man
11/05/23 8:10:57 PM
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Forty_Niners posted...
Not many people understand civics.


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Payzmaykr
11/05/23 8:11:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
No one should support Biden, but he still needs to win
Dude, its not like the election is tomorrow. Lets just find a better democratic candidate. We cant be defeatist and accept another four years of Biden because we still have time.
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Unknown5uspect
11/05/23 8:12:05 PM
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If people actually understood civics the GOP wouldn't exist.

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Kim_Seong-a
11/05/23 8:12:21 PM
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I feel like "feelings dictate reality" and "don't understand how any of this works" could apply to the vast majority of the voting public so it's weird to single out black people on this <_<

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Intro2Logic
11/05/23 8:13:16 PM
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"No, it's the voters who are wrong."

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2Pacavelli
11/05/23 8:13:59 PM
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Never supported Biden, Never will
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Haejin
11/05/23 8:15:50 PM
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She's right and wrong at the same time, it's like if you don't vote Biden, okay is Trump going to do better for you? No.

But Biden isn't the best candidate for them either but Biden is your best chance to win unfortunately

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tremain07
11/05/23 8:19:40 PM
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I really hope Democrats strategy next year isn't "Well what else are you gonna do, vote Trump?" because people can and will be spiteful enough to either do just that or not vote at all.

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Ronaldo
11/05/23 8:20:13 PM
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Approval rating of Biden is dropping across all races. Economic concerns, immigration concerns, increase in crime, his foreign policy, his inability to string together multiple sentences. He didn't inspire confidence in Dems 3 years ago and it's getting worse.
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Agonized_rufous
11/05/23 8:21:57 PM
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Black folk are too woke

Go sleep n vote more peeps

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mehmeh1
11/05/23 8:22:00 PM
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tremain07 posted...
I really hope Democrats strategy next year isn't "Well what else are you gonna do, vote Trump?" because people can and will be spiteful enough to either do just that or not vote at all.
I would've hoped 2016 taught america that

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Shishiwakamaru
11/05/23 8:23:30 PM
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tremain07 posted...
I really hope Democrats strategy next year isn't "Well what else are you gonna do, vote Trump?" because people can and will be spiteful enough to either do just that or not vote at all.

That is CEs strategy from topics Ive looked at. There is also a lot of shaming involved. That would be such a big political mistake and I hope the Democratic Party doesnt go in that direction.

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boomgetchopped3
11/05/23 8:27:30 PM
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I def do not understand how any of this works. I suspect many politicians dont either, and if they do, their goals arent aligned with mine. So I vote solely based on results. The country is on fire. Biden is president. I say fuck that dude. Fuck Trump obviously, but yeah, fuck that dude.
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Intro2Logic
11/05/23 8:28:23 PM
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boomgetchopped3 posted...
The country is on fire.
In what way?

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Forty_Niners
11/05/23 8:29:18 PM
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Intro2Logic posted...
In what way?
Fascism.

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StealThisSheen
11/05/23 8:30:35 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Dude, its not like the election is tomorrow. Lets just find a better democratic candidate. We cant be defeatist and accept another four years of Biden because we still have time.

You were a pretty hardcore Trumper in 2018-2021ish. Can I ask what changed your mind, out of curiosity?

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Rial_Kai
11/05/23 8:33:23 PM
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I'm black. She's not wrong. It's not just a black issue, but she's not wrong at all. Too many people have no clue how the government works. Which is exactly how Republicans want it.

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tremain07
11/05/23 8:34:35 PM
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As silly as it sounds I think this guy also has a case for why Biden is just bleeding support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZU-4JKPDk

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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
11/05/23 8:35:38 PM
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It doesn't help that the media is straight up echoing GOP talking points despite no basis in reality, or with the context that the GOP is standing in the way of the Dems fixing it. How many jobs reports and GDP reports have come out now "defying expectations". Maybe the problem is the media continually expecting the economy to crash despite zero evidence for this concern

Also, it's somehow Biden's fault that Israel missed Hamas tunneling across their borders, and responded with a massive invasion of Gaza.

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legendary_zell
11/05/23 8:36:14 PM
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They have to find another way to say this, point blank period. This is the exact response that people get here when Biden loses support for doing things people don't like. That's what naturally happens when you do that and you can't condescend your way back into support, but that seems to be all a certain type of Democrat knows how to do.

This is starting to give echoes of 2016.

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Sansoldier
11/05/23 8:38:44 PM
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The clip cuts off before she can potentially explain what she means in more detail.

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emblem-man
11/05/23 8:44:42 PM
#28:


Haejin posted...
But Biden isn't the best candidate for them either but Biden is your best chance to win unfortunately

Who would be the best?

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emblem-man
11/05/23 8:45:50 PM
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen posted...
It doesn't help that the media is straight up echoing GOP talking points despite no basis in reality,

Doesn't help when leftists do the same about Biden

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Tora_Sami
11/05/23 8:46:32 PM
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Jeebus, where going to get trump again and he is going to end all allegations against himself isn't he....fuck man.....

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Shishiwakamaru
11/05/23 8:47:39 PM
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Tora_Sami posted...
Jeebus, where going to get trump again and he is going to end all allegations against himself isn't he....fuck man.....

You shouldnt let CE topics sway your worldview too much

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MarcyWarcy
11/05/23 8:48:59 PM
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Stuff like this makes internet guys nod sagely and sip their tea but the average american feels things are getting worse and are pessimistic about things changing for the better. Trying to scare voters into thinking the other guy is evil never works, even when its true. Most people bother to vote at all because they either feel like the person they're voting against is actively failing or because they feel like the person they're voting for is going to fix things.

Two years ago I thought there was zero chance Trump would ever be president again, but at the moment nobody is doing anything but making excuses and even the usual online positivity bunch has no cards to play except the hail mary of him going to prison or the same grim wagers about right and wrong from 2016 that didn't resonate with people back them and wont now. Things are looking more and more dicey

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Tora_Sami
11/05/23 8:50:42 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
You shouldnt let CE topics sway your worldview too much

It's not really that, I just see it all over the place. From people I know switching over to trump, a lot of people being upset with Biden online everywhere, polls, etc like if it was just some crazies on twitter or CE trolls sure, I ignore it but I see it in person and everywhere online. Things look bleak.

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tremain07
11/05/23 8:52:15 PM
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Don't forget once the primaries are over and it's official it's Trump the media will go harder on Biden as Republicans all fall in line behind Trump even never Trumpers will because at the end of the day it's all about those tax cuts which was the only thing the Trump administration actually did before going right back into chaotic corruption and cruelty

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Full_Pokedex
11/05/23 8:52:56 PM
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I'm voting third party, screw both of them.

Neither party deserves my support.

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Doom_Art
11/05/23 8:55:12 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Trying to scare voters into thinking the other guy is evil never works
Yes it does lol

It worked in 2020 when everyone was scared shitless over Trump winning again

It worked in 2016 when Trump/the GOP spent a boatload of time and money convincing people that Clinton was Satan Incarnate

Hell even 2012 a big part of Obamas reelection was convincing folks that Romney was an out of touch plutocrat who would throw the door open to Tea Party crazies.

Fear, hate, and negativity whether justified or not, are powerful motivators

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Shishiwakamaru
11/05/23 8:55:45 PM
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Tora_Sami posted...
It's not really that, I just see it all over the place. From people I know switching over to trump, a lot of people being upset with Biden online everywhere, polls, etc like if it was just some crazies on twitter or CE trolls sure, I ignore it but I see it in person and everywhere online. Things look bleak.

I agree that hate for Biden can be seen everywhere. Hes honestly not a great candidate and never was.

But his opponent will be Trump, the Republican Party doesnt have anyone else. I would be shocked to see Trump win again. If somehow Trump isnt Bidens opponent I dont see how the new opponent can muster enough support to win.

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cjsdowg
11/05/23 8:57:21 PM
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Rial_Kai posted...
I'm black. She's not wrong. It's not just a black issue, but she's not wrong at all. Too many people have no clue how the government works. Which is exactly how Republicans want it.
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When have Republicans complained about their voters like that ?

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Bass
11/05/23 8:57:40 PM
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Forty_Niners posted...
Not many people understand civics.
Come on, man. It's not hard to understand how the Honda Civic is a good car.

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MarcyWarcy
11/05/23 9:01:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
It worked in 2020 when everyone was scared s***less over Trump winning again

Trump lost because country was literally choking to death as he failed to handle covid. It had nothing to do with morals or evil, prices were going up and a ton of people were losing their jobs and loved ones while the president pretended nothing out of the ordinary was going on. Way less people take moral failings into account when voting than you think. The thing that sunk Trump was that everything was falling to shit while his hands were on the wheel. That is a lot different than warning that if someone does get elected, things are GOING to happen.

He has a disadvantage going into this because of a bad track record, but hes been gone for four years and things are still rough for a lot of people and Biden is incredibly unpopular so it is going to be a lot closer than it should be in that situation.

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Roachmeat
11/05/23 9:01:42 PM
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Forty_Niners posted...
Not many people understand civics.

Unknown5uspect posted...
If people actually understood civics the GOP wouldn't exist.

or those news networks that are just one step above tabloids, then get sued for it and literally admit in court that no one sane person would consider them "news".
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emblem-man
11/05/23 9:04:45 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Stuff like this makes internet guys nod sagely and sip their tea but the average american feels things are getting worse and are pessimistic about things changing for the better. Trying to scare voters into thinking the other guy is evil never works, even when its true. Most people bother to vote at all because they either feel like the person they're voting against is actively failing or because they feel like the person they're voting for is going to fix things.

That's why when people start talking about the economy being bad, I find it important to challenge those wrong ideas.

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hockeybub89
11/05/23 9:09:59 PM
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Full_Pokedex posted...
I'm voting third party, screw both of them.

Neither party deserves my support.
Well then the guy all your far-right friends love will win and destroy the entire country forever.

Not that you have any opinions of your own. I'm sure someone tells you to share these opinions to us in the first place.

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Dark_Arbron
11/05/23 9:11:38 PM
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Ronaldo posted...
Approval rating of Biden is dropping across all races. Economic concerns, immigration concerns, increase in crime, his foreign policy, his inability to string together multiple sentences. He didn't inspire confidence in Dems 3 years ago and it's getting worse.

Sheesh, theres a lot to unpack here.


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yeaisaidit
11/05/23 9:12:08 PM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
Stuff like this makes internet guys nod sagely and sip their tea but the average american feels things are getting worse and are pessimistic about things changing for the better. Trying to scare voters into thinking the other guy is evil never works, even when its true. Most people bother to vote at all because they either feel like the person they're voting against is actively failing or because they feel like the person they're voting for is going to fix things.

Two years ago I thought there was zero chance Trump would ever be president again, but at the moment nobody is doing anything but making excuses and even the usual online positivity bunch has no cards to play except the hail mary of him going to prison or the same grim wagers about right and wrong from 2016 that didn't resonate with people back them and wont now. Things are looking more and more dicey
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Full_Pokedex
11/05/23 9:15:36 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Well then the guy all your far-right friends love will win and destroy the entire country forever.

Not that you have any opinions of your own. I'm sure someone tells you to share these opinions to us in the first place.
How many people has your constant fear mongering actually gotten onto your side?

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hockeybub89
11/05/23 9:17:29 PM
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
That is CEs strategy from topics Ive looked at. There is also a lot of shaming involved. That would be such a big political mistake and I hope the Democratic Party doesnt go in that direction.
Well the party won't but it's true. Everything is hopeless and the only path forward is to keep Sleepy Joe in office and continue to stave off the apocalypse as long as possible while trying to fix this godforsaken country. No one should have any delusions of being enthusiastic about voting next year. It's simply damage mitigation and survival. The Democrats will try to pretty it up, but this isn't about helping them.

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Payzmaykr
11/05/23 9:20:26 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
You were a pretty hardcore Trumper in 2018-2021ish. Can I ask what changed your mind, out of curiosity?
Get your facts straight before you start talking shit, bud.

I regrettably supported trump, but only until about 2017. I thought that a political outsider might represent us better (largely why I voted for Obama in 08 and 12), but quickly learned that I was wrong. Im also far from the only person who made that mistake.

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emblem-man
11/05/23 9:45:00 PM
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So the strategy is to poo poo progressive domestic policy that the president is doing and to make people dissatisfied with a Democrat president and become apathetic in the next election or worse, vote for a Republican because they want a change.

I just think it's good to be honest about the economy and base it on actual facts and not "vibes". Can and are people having bad times? Yes, and I don't think anyone will deny that. But that's different than saying the economy is bad and making people think it's bad for everyone or that nothing has been done under Biden

It's the same with how right wingers will say crime is rampant is New York and how it's more dangerous than during the 80's and 90's. Someone might think it's more dangerous because they've had some bad experiences, but it's completely false.


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