Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Topic 7: Or rather, Se7en.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

I hope you aren't sucking Red

lucille bluth winking gif

Sultans town

hopefully i've not been bamboozled this time

sorry for being such chaos but wow changmas was so right that i was clearly dumb town

Preliminary votals
JC [6]: Corrik, Dumey, Sultan, (IGCD), Red, Sbell, IGCD
Corrik [3]: JC, chang, (IGCD), Wallz
Ashe [2]: (Dumey), Death, (Wallz), Brohan
Brohan [1]: (BCT), (Sultan), (chang), BCT
Sultan [0]: (IGCD)
Red [0]: (JC)
Wallz [0]: (Sultan), (IGCD), (Sbell)
Dumey [0]: (BCT)

Chaeix has been hooked and eliminated! He was...
JEFFREY "JEFF" JOHANSEN, SOLO QUEUE Intuitive Metalhead
A giant of a man born and raised in Alberta, Canada, your teenage life consisted of being a clerk in a backwater video store, where you wiled away the empty hours and eased your anxiety by working at a sketchbook. One of your customers took note and had you tag a mural of two words - "The Legion" - on the side of an abandoned ski lodge in Ormond for 50 Canadian dollars and a pack of cigarettes. Small monetary value aside, you took quiet pride in it - it was, after all, your first commission. After making this mural, your parents, constantly at each other's throats, divorced, and you were hauled off to Manitoba to live with your mother. Your isolation grew and you found solace in metal music and your art, and found a living tending bar after graduating high school, which progressed into becoming a roadie for a local band - where you earned your scar on your eye by being in a fight at a concert.

Eventually, you went to art college and focused on digital design and oil painting - eventually taking up odd jobs doing graphic design. Life went on this way for a time until you received a phone call that your father, who lived back in Ormond had passed away and left you a few things. You went back there, found a guitar case reading "For My Boy" and, fueled by nostalgia, went to the lodge where you made your first real, lasting work of art. Your friends and associates assumed the grief got to you, as you were taken to the Fog some time during your travel.

Intuitive: Your introspective personality lets you make some artistic license when it comes to decisions and logic. At the start of the night, you will learn something important about the nature of this current Trial.

Metalhead: Somehow, despite your gentle giant nature, every appearance you have in the Fog runs the gamut from "Brutal Legend expy" to "extra in a Mad Max film." These do not provide you any additional abilities, but it's an interesting contrast, don't you think?

The hook falls, and clonks a pale leathered figure on the head on its way down. Chaeix was also:

ELLIOT SPENCER, SOLO QUEUE Game Master Sadist Metalhead
A former British Army captain, you gained the attention of Hell's king through rampant acts of self-mutilation after you were so shell-shocked in a battle that you could no longer find any pleasure through positive emotions. The king granted you the powers of a demon known as a Cenobite and charged you with sharing your experiences of turning torturous pain into depraved pleasure. Unlike most other Killers in the Fog, you appeared one day in the Entity's Realm without being beckoned by it. Nay, you followed the Lament Configuration - one of many Dwights within the Fog opened the puzzle box, and there you were.

You and the Configuration's very presence in the Fog warp reality among you, and you are capable of twisting it to your whim, depending on your summoner - Demon to some, Angel to another, as it were.

Game Master: Once per game, as an unblockable night action only before you become Pinhead, you may choose to activate the Lament Configuration. If you survive, at the start of the day, everyone will be notified that a Chain Hunt has begun, and what that entails:
- The Chain Hunt roleblocks every living player, except you.
- The Chain Hunt prevents votes from being swapped once made, including your own.
- The Lament Configuration appears after 24 hours from the beginning of the day, and if it is still Day phase, a player may publicly announce "##solve: The Box" to retrieve it. This will immediately end the Chain Hunt for every other player. You may not pick The Box up yourself.
If The Box is not retrieved before the normal end of day, the Chain Hunt extends through the night.

Sadist: When the Box is picked up, you may DM the host to SPARE or ABDUCT the person who grabbed it.
SPARE: The Chain Hunt ends for everyone but the Box's solver. The Box's solver remains roleblocked and vote-frozen until you are no longer Pinhead. They are made aware of both of your identities as Pinhead and Jeff, but NOT your alignment, who your player is, or what your traits do.
ABDUCT: You bind The Box's solver with a number of stretching hooks and open a portal to Hell. A Stop will be called by the host or co-host, and the day ends; the game will be informed that the player who had the Box has been dragged off to Hell. Their flip will not post. The player will be removed from the game entirely, including from any private chats they have access to, and is considered to have "won," even if their team loses. You follow the player to Hell for that evening to ensure they enjoy their torments and are considered Untargetable for the night.
If you fail to choose before the end of day, you will default to Sparing the wielder.

Metalhead: Although a... deviant... interpretation of the word, your preferred method of self-mutilation has made it difficult for you to ever make your way through airport security (to put it mildly.)

It is now NIGHT. The game will resume tomorrow at 9:00 Eastern (a bit over 23 hours from now.) Night actions are due an hour before that, at 8:00 Eastern.

I have acknowledged the person who posted after stop did a genuine mistake, given its timeframe.

Alive (12):
1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. changmas / chang (replaces Crescent-Moon)
4. EDumey / Dumey
5. htaeD / Death
6. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
7. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
8. Obellisk / Sbell
9. red13n / Leafeon13n
10. TheSultanofSlam / Sultan
11. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
12. wallmasterz / Wallz

Eliminated:
LD1: UltimaterializerX / Ulti (SQ Feline Grace / Inhuman || Inhuman Predator)
KN1: PeaceFrog (SQ Reliant / Neurodivergent || Regenerator Twin Bonded)
?D2: Forceful_Dragon (???)
KN2: PunishedBen (SQ Inquisitive || Smirking Analytical)
LD3: Chaeix / JC (SQ Intuitive Metalhead || Game Master Sadist Metalhead)

We will be reusing this topic tomorrow due to its brevity.

A new sun rises over the darkness, yet the obscuring fog remains everywhere. Still, despite the pockets of darkness, everyone notices another player dangling from a hook.
changmas has been hooked and eliminated! They were...
THALITA LYRA - SOLO QUEUE Team Player
You are a young Brazilian model who took up a side job starting a kite-fighting business with your more introverted brother. You had the misfortune of entering the Fog with him immediately after you witnessed a nighttime murder of a wealthy businessman at the hands of a woman equipped with a diamond-studded mask, high-tech flying drones, and a twin wrist blade (totally not a Predator.)

Team Player: While you have been separated since entering, you have advanced knowledge that your brother Renato is in the Fog with you and aligned with you. You have no other special abilities.

Yet again the hook collapses and lands in a dirty, dusty heap on top of a large, malnourished, and very dead woman with her chest bloodlessly ripped open.
changmas was also...
CHARLOTTE DESHAYES - SOLO QUEUE Vengeful Twin Bonded
You are a brutish, malnourished young adult woman with a gaping cavity in your ribcage where your brother Victor resides. You two have led a hard life - your mother Madeleine was a kindly soul, but was burned at the stake for witchcraft after years of hiding your brother under your clothing. The angry mob turned on you, sold you to a cult worshipping the Entity, and after a time, they attempted to ritualistically slaughter you and your brother. Victor knocked a candle over and the ritual area was engulfed by an inferno. You escaped choking, but Victor perished in the blaze. You became a brigand for several years, until one frozen night, Victor stirred beneath your breast and wrenched himself from your body. You pursued him into creeping tendrils of a black Fog, sickle in hand, and became a Killer.

Also, outside of a Mafia game, you're rarer than a bloody unicorn. Who plays Twins these days, anyways?

As half of the Twins, you have a bond with Victor that few can understand. Victor can separate from you and you may split your vote to hunt down Survivors by voting for them. You are closer than anyone else can possibly be, and you can freely relay information between one another in a way no one else can possibly understand. Unless they've been a Mason before. What are the odds of that, though, hm?

Vengeful: If Victor's player is dead at any point during the day phase while you survive as Charlotte, you will automatically, invisibly vote for a guilty party. You will not be informed of who this guilty person is until they are dead, and you can still use another vote as normal. The Vengeful vote also counts if Victor is in the process of Regenerating.
For the purposes of this ability, you are only considered to be Charlotte at the beginning of an even day through the end of an even night.

Twin: You are inextricably linked to your brother. Victor depends on your survival and will be eliminated with you if you are eliminated as Charlotte. If you are eliminated as Thalita, you still have access to your Mason discord, but may not post in the topic.

Bonded: By your very nature of being a conjoined Twin, you have access to a private Mason Discord chatroom with Charlotte's player (monitored by the Host/any co-hosts.) Both of your Killer and Survivor roles will be visible to each other. Access to chat in this Discord is removed during Thalita/Renato day, but remains open if one of you is dead.

All players are now in their even-day forms again as Day 4 begins.

Alive (11):
1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. EDumey / Dumey
4. htaeD / Death
5. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
6. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
7. Obellisk / Sbell
8. red13n / Leafeon13n
9. TheSultanofSlam / Sultan
10. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
11. wallmasterz / Wallz

Eliminated:
LD1: UltimaterializerX / Ulti (SQ Feline Grace / Inhuman || Inhuman Predator)
KN1: PeaceFrog (SQ Reliant / Neurodivergent || Regenerator Twin Bonded)
?D2: Forceful_Dragon (???)
KN2: PunishedBen (SQ Inquisitive || Smirking Analytical)
LD3: Chaeix / JC (SQ Intuitive Metalhead || Game Master Sadist Metalhead)
KN3: changmas (SQ Team Player || Vengeful Twin Bonded)

With 11 alive, a majority of six votes is required to condemn a player to death. The day will end on Thursday, November 9th at 9:00 pm Eastern time, 48 hours from now. Day actions are due in 24 hours from now. You may now post.

So that's probably game eh?

17 we are looking at 4 or 5, and we haven't had a single scum lynched.

If the game was over, it would be over. Although I suppose for some participants it barely ever started

But yes it sucks having zero lynched scum. Id at least like to avoid a sweep at this point. And town collectively has had two mislynches so far, thats not great but not as bad at the chain hunt is making it seem.

Bro wtf is this game get a train thst says someone is scum for them to be town.. and a same name trait ad another trait that doesn't soothe same thing.

When Corrik posted this

Corrik7 posted... 7.037

It's okay. Board 8 sucks at mafia. To be expected lol

I had suggested specialing him. The overall votes on him were jc, chang and IGCD. Thats four people.

Not long before this he said I was scum, jc was 3p or scum, Chang was one of only two people in his neutral group and he said he thinks one person in his neutral group is scum and only IGCD, who had been jumping around with his vote anyway, was in his town pile.

Does he say scum is trying to mislynch me? No he says B8 sucks at mafia. Despite the fact 75% of people wanting to special him being in his poe or barely outside it. I believe that is because Corrik was scum trying to shake the confidence of people who might join in on the special.

Corrik7 posted... 6.183

JC almost assuredly being 3rd party means there is 4 scum.

Wallz I am pretty sure is scum as well now also.

Brohan is starting to lose some luster I saw as town but I'm not ready to err into scum.

Where is this supposed Red edge someone mentioned earlier?

Death is probably scum also tbqh.

Dumey and BCT look good today. Chang is getting rid of a lot of the Crescent good will she brought towards her spot.

Red hasn't shown himself to be town to me at all so far.

Town
Sultan
Dumey
BCT
IGCD
Sbell

Likelier town
Brohan

Third Party
JC

Neutral. 1 of these 2 has to be scum unless I erred up in my other parts of my list.
Chang
Red

Likely scum
Wallz
Ashe
Death

Jc and Chang approved a Corrik lynch and we now know both were town. No reason to rush this day but barring some major new information, Id like others to consider joining me in

##Vote: Corrik

##Vote: Corrik

sure.

I mean, I don't wanna but igcd is doing it

Sbell, I think youre probably town. What specific reasons make you opposed to a Corrik lynch? Im genuinely listening

Very opportunistic at mylo. Probably gonna lose the game to a rush if any of you are town.

Just ask yourself if you got 3 people voting you or planning to vote you in the span of two minutes who you thought were definitely not town or in one case 50/50 chance not town, would your kneejerk reaction be b8 sucks at mafia or would it be wow this feels coordinated af

wallmasterz posted...

Just ask yourself if you got 3 people voting you or planning to vote you in the span of two minutes who you thought were definitely not town or in one case 50/50 chance not town, would your kneejerk reaction be b8 sucks at mafia or would it be wow this feels coordinated af

I didn't even know the votals. I asked for them repeatedly.

I'm our protection though. So... lol.

Btw, JCs play after reading his flip is literally nonsensical.

Also. Mafia isn't gonna sell out before mylo on a lynch. Your argument is dumb. I said board 8 is dumb because if they specialed me they were specialing their protection out of nowhere to save the 3rd party. Woulda been apt.

Corrik, based on the two latest flips, has your Poe changed at all and if so, how?

Corrik, Red, and Brohan all look like good targets today. I'll reread Chang tomorrow because he was targeting several people, and I'd think he was killed because he was onto something.

I don't have time right now to do much, unfortunately.

wallmasterz posted...

Corrik, based on the two latest flips, has your Poe changed at all and if so, how?

The end of the day was a tad weird. If Ben and me are wrong about IGCD and Sbell that could have messed a lot up.

Igcds votes were weird, but he tends to do chaos regardless of alignment.

Hello friends! I come bearing good news. I got info.

I am Nancy Wheeler, SOLO QUEUE Fearless Investigator
Fearless is vanilla (though D1 I was thinking that maybe this was a passive that scum would have some kind of abilities that only worked on some players, like a Terrify ability or something, that I was immune to. Kind of like how Mario/Luigi worked in Paper Mario with different players passively having different resistances.).

Investigator allows me to examine any player's (living or dead) past, and see what actions happened to them, and when. (But not who.) There is a small drawback though that I can't see what's happening at the same time that I'm investigating them, so I only see PAST results. N1 I figured it was just a shot in the dark scanning to see if I could catch someone's day action. I investigated Death, and nothing happened to him D1. :)
N3 I investigated FD. I found out that he was poisoned N1, he was roleblocked at the start of D2, and then nothing else, because he uh, kinda stopped existing after that. Weird.

The important part of this result is that if Ashethan scanned FD like he said he did, then I would have seen this in my investigation. FD was not scanned at any point, and therefore Ashethan lied.
6.104 if anyone needs a refresher on what Ashethan claimed.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80611617/977048471

##Vote: Ashethan

I'm guessing that Ashethan is the scum poisoner, and he claimed to scan FD just in case he was watched or tracked N1. But oh well, we can't really be picky with who we lynch at this point.

I was okay backing off of Ashethan yesterday and following Corrik's lead on JC because I knew I had this investigation in my back pocket. Sorry I couldn't really find another person to go towards JC. I appreciate the effort you put into defending yourself!

Oh I might as well just completely claim and say on even days I'm the Demogorgon, SOLO QUEUE Otherworldly Abomination. Vanilla Vanilla.

In my eyes, Corrik has town points for pushing Ashethan on D2, but it's possible he was okay bussing a spent poisoner? It does make me a LITTLE bit paranoid that Corrik abandoned his Ashethan focus D3 to instead go after JC. But I'm not sure that's enough to damn him in my eyes. Consider me wary of Corrik, but I admit it's purely paranoia because JC turned out to be wrong.

I was going to also come in today and say I thought Chang was scum for coming in and defending both Ashe and JC, bundling together scum buddy and town who he knew had a f***ed role. But apparently that idea didn't quite follow through. >_> Tomorrow when I have more time, I'll do a more thorough reread of the previous day with this context, and see how my perception of the game changes.

Well I trust Edumey way more than Ashethan so this seems like an obvious choice to me.

Ashethan being scum makes me think Brohan may not be? Then again Brohans vote on Ashe was the worst.
Btw IGCD why did you not vote Ashethan when you promised you would?

Well, as expected i was roleblocked last night. I tried to scan Corrik ftr, after the way day ended yesterday. Not a fan of anyone who was on the JC lynch.

EDumey posted...

Hello friends! I come bearing good news. I got info.

I am Nancy Wheeler, SOLO QUEUE Fearless Investigator
Fearless is vanilla (though D1 I was thinking that maybe this was a passive that scum would have some kind of abilities that only worked on some players, like a Terrify ability or something, that I was immune to. Kind of like how Mario/Luigi worked in Paper Mario with different players passively having different resistances.).

Investigator allows me to examine any player's (living or dead) past, and see what actions happened to them, and when. (But not who.) There is a small drawback though that I can't see what's happening at the same time that I'm investigating them, so I only see PAST results. N1 I figured it was just a shot in the dark scanning to see if I could catch someone's day action. I investigated Death, and nothing happened to him D1. :)
N3 I investigated FD. I found out that he was poisoned N1, he was roleblocked at the start of D2, and then nothing else, because he uh, kinda stopped existing after that. Weird.

The important part of this result is that if Ashethan scanned FD like he said he did, then I would have seen this in my investigation. FD was not scanned at any point, and therefore Ashethan lied.
6.104 if anyone needs a refresher on what Ashethan claimed.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80611617/977048471

##Vote: Ashethan

I'm guessing that Ashethan is the scum poisoner, and he claimed to scan FD just in case he was watched or tracked N1. But oh well, we can't really be picky with who we lynch at this point.

I was okay backing off of Ashethan yesterday and following Corrik's lead on JC because I knew I had this investigation in my back pocket. Sorry I couldn't really find another person to go towards JC. I appreciate the effort you put into defending yourself!

This is a nice try by scum, but there's several problems here.

You're preemptively defending your scan hard. And not in a town way at all. You've passed the buck of lynching JC onto Corrik. "Oh, I was just following Corrik!" which is kind of scum 101. Follow the leaders onto mislynches, and let them take the blame. You also say "I just couldn't find anyone else to lynch!" only... that's not true. You could've lynched me (who was one of the two people you wanted lynched yesterday at the start of day). You could've lynched Brohan (who you were suspicious of back on day 2, then mysteriously not so suspicious of him on day 3 after all his activity to include just me and chang at the time) you just moved onto JC when you saw an opportunity.

Then you also come up with an idea of why I'd claim to scan FD if I hadn't. "Oh he must have had tracker fear." The problem with this? You were pushing this idea yesterday. Before your supposed scan. You were already pushing that idea into people's heads. It's as if you knew you'd have some sort of scan to claim on me today, but that's impossible if you're town. Now you're using it to bolster your scan to sell it to town (rather than letting a scan speak for itself). It reeks of pre-planning, and not natural discovery of information. And you either conveniently leave out the fact that I have a ninja trait or you just weren't following the game that closely and reading who you claimed was one of your top suspects who you wanted lynched badly yesterday (but then left to go onto JC, probably realizing you could get me mislynched today to win the game)

Ninja?
*checks*
Oh right you did claim you had ninja traits as well.
I'd call it odd that Dumey forgot that, but so did I.

Still your role and Dumey's together for the same nights almost feels like too much scanning.

For the record, Ashe was actually roleblocked last night.

Trust me... I would know... lol.

Also, Edumey, I was on Ashe day 1 as well.

JC not being 3p is literally just insane.

...I can infer what you mean by that, but I would like you to spell it out. Corrik.

I wasn't blaming Corrik for JC's lynch. I thought JC was scum 100%. I stand by leaving my vote on him. I was just apologizing that Town JC who stayed in topic all day to fight for himselfended up getting lynched anyway, because I was too stubborn to look seriously for a third option. I didn't like the ideas he was coming up with, and didn't trust him.

Also, even the idea that you're a Ninja doesn't matter here, I'm fairly certain. Ninja hides the who has done something. Not the what. it's a clever attempt at a defense, but I'm not convinced by that. My role doesn't tell me who does what, just what actions happened.

I guess that does add a small element of doubt, if the roles interact that way. But I think you're just scrambling scum putting up a latch ditch effort. I'm pretty sure that one post of yours has more effort put into it than all the rest of your posts combined yesterday. You were content to just sit with the votes on you and not defend yourself or scum hunt. Stinks of a scum board effort.

Corrik7 posted...

Also, Edumey, I was on Ashe day 1 as well.

Were you really though? You voted on top of Ultis vote at the start of the day, and then weren't caught up for the end of day.

Why wouldn't you being this up yesterday?? If you caught scum you out scum..

Ehhh, I cant be sure if the host would rule a ninja power like that.
Someone else also had the 'unseen by actions' trait, right? Maybe they can shed more light on that?

I just want to be careful here since I have seen us get burned by assuming too much before.
(well okay the last time I wasnt on towns side, but you know what I mean)

At the very least I dont think you are lying since this sounds like an extremely hard role to fake.
Plus its not like Ashe earned much goodwill.

htaeD posted...

Ehhh, I cant be sure if the host would rule a ninja power like that.
Someone else also had the 'unseen by actions' trait, right? Maybe they can shed more light on that?

I just want to be careful here since I have seen us get burned by assuming too much before.
(well okay the last time I wasnt on towns side, but you know what I mean)

At the very least I dont think you are lying since this sounds like an extremely hard role to fake.
Plus its not like Ashe earned much goodwill.

Think it was BCT/Lea but I think they basically said it was vanilla??

I mean a ninja without powers basically is a nilla. But it could lead to some interaction with other powers maybe.

htaeD posted...

Well I trust Edumey way more than Ashethan so this seems like an obvious choice to me.

Ashethan being scum makes me think Brohan may not be? Then again Brohans vote on Ashe was the worst.
Btw IGCD why did you not vote Ashethan when you promised you would?

It was a bit hectic and I was just going with the flow.

Hrm.

I wouldnt have minded so much if you hadnt said you would do it
Since I did leave you with multiple choices... which I mostly did because at the time I thought all 3 were potential scum and I wanted to see what you would do. That and I was too tired to think things through.

Your switch from Corrik to JC is in your nature perhaps, but very suspect nonetheless. Especially if Corrik is scum.
Though you probably dont need me to say that.

Something in Corriks favor btw is him locking in his vote on Ashethan D2 during the chain hunt. I don't think scum wants to lock their vote in, not knowing what the chain hunt rules are. And if Ashethan is scum like I'm saying, then that's another thing in favor. I just don't really see the Corrik energy people had at the end of day. Like I said before, I think the only anti-Corrik things I see are general, "why would scum shoot Chang who no one was strongly town-siding over a potential Town Corrik" which is pure paranoia, and Corrik not being on Ashe yesterday when he's been going after Ashe the rest of the time.

100% Town
Dumey

90% Town
BCT

75% Town
Sultan
Red
Death

60% Town
Corrik

POE-Ville
IGCD
SBell
Brohan
Wallz

99.5% Scum
Ashethan

This revision is mostly assuming my catch on Ashethan is accurate and correct. If so, I think Death earned himself a lot of Town cred with me yesterday.

Wallz is probably scum, btw. Avoidant of his scum buddies is probably going to be the major catch for him here. Not someone we can lynch today I think, but if we start lynching scum now, and whoever is looking back sees that Wallz never pushed any of the confirmed scum, get him on that.

I still believe in my initial D1 votals analysis, that I think one of the last four votes on Ulti was scum. Well FD and Crescent/Chang are flipped town now. So that leaves at least one of Brohan/IGCD, who are both conveniently just sitting in PoE range because theyve done nothing else to separate themselves.

Red and Corrik, if the both of you are Town like I think you are, I need you to go into solving mode and carry my ass.

Death, why was Chang killed? Was he getting too close by being one of the only people willing to push for IGCD, and also had Brohan on his short list? It matches my PoE. I just can't think of many reasons why Chang was targeted there. It feels like scum narrowed the PoE on themselves with that kill.

EDumey posted...

100% Town
Dumey

90% Town
BCT

75% Town
Sultan
Red
Death

60% Town
Corrik

POE-Ville
IGCD
SBell
Brohan
Wallz

99.5% Scum
Ashethan

This revision is mostly assuming my catch on Ashethan is accurate and correct. If so, I think Death earned himself a lot of Town cred with me yesterday.

Wallz is probably scum, btw. Avoidant of his scum buddies is probably going to be the major catch for him here. Not someone we can lynch today I think, but if we start lynching scum now, and whoever is looking back sees that Wallz never pushed any of the confirmed scum, get him on that.

I still believe in my initial D1 votals analysis, that I think one of the last four votes on Ulti was scum. Well FD and Crescent/Chang are flipped town now. So that leaves at least one of Brohan/IGCD, who are both conveniently just sitting in PoE range because theyve done nothing else to separate themselves.

Red and Corrik, if the both of you are Town like I think you are, I need you to go into solving mode and carry my ass.

I hear ya but there is a lot going on this game that makes things difficult. Like let's say i knew JCs role and alignment before he flipped, nothing he did with it makes any sense. Like why would he ever kill? I don't get it.

EDumey posted...

Death, why was Chang killed? Was he getting too close by being one of the only people willing to push for IGCD, and also had Brohan on his short list? It matches my PoE. I just can't think of many reasons why Chang was targeted there. It feels like scum narrowed the PoE on themselves with that kill.

Its either possible he was killed because he was that opposed to the JC lynch, or because he was on to someone.
And sure that sorta includes me since I was in his PoE for a long time. But I on the other hand dont think they killed chang to make me look worse lol.

Corrik7 posted...

I hear ya but there is a lot going on this game that makes things difficult. Like let's say i knew JCs role and alignment before he flipped, nothing he did with it makes any sense. Like why would he ever kill? I don't get it.

He was genuinely just upset that FD took his toy and threw it on the ground. I think even JC was admitting throughout the day he knows he didn't play optimally. I think that's why he put in the effort to try and be in topic and contribute, even though he's usually a bit less active due to time zone stuff. He played his role poorly, but he put in effort. I should have valued that more, but I didn't.

So if we're looking at effort, who was around but not contributing? There was one post of Red's that annoyed me reading back where he said something along the lines of, "we can't change votes now, we had 47 hours to do that." Which is TECHNICALLY true, but all Red really did yesterday was come in and poke holes in JCs story. I think Red is probably town because of the miller stuff, but I need to see more effort from him now because yesterday wasn't great for him.

Chang was probably just killed because they are searching for power.