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EDumey
11/09/23 8:47:59 AM
#251:


I have Sultan at the same level of town confidence as you, Death. So not entirely out of the mix, but far up enough that I'd probably need to see a major slip-up before considering lynching either of you over other options.

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EDumey
11/09/23 8:55:52 AM
#252:


Death what is your opinion on completing our mass claim today? I know you are waiting and expressed you don't want to give players like Brohan the opportunity to claim last. But with Corrik saying he's protection that's already ousted, is it best strategy to just complete the mass?

SBell and IGCD can same-time some time today. We need Brohan to peek his head out some time and just claim on his own. Then have to bully Red into completing his claim.

Sultan also needs to complete his claim at some point. Then it's just Death and Corrik.

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htaeD
11/09/23 9:05:10 AM
#253:


On one hand I dont think he lynch today is gonna go to someone who hasnt claimed yet besides maybe Brohan
So we definitely should definitely get him back.
Corrik at least should complete his lynch
I think Red did claim Nilla/Miller already? But I may have gotten confused (can you blame me in this game?)

On the other hand I worry that one of Sbell and IGCD could be stalling. And whether we are at Mylo or one step away from Mylo, I dont think it makes today any worse for a massclaim.

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htaeD
11/09/23 9:07:39 AM
#254:


That and yeah all protection is presumably outed at this point.
Cant ruin our defenses anymore.

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EDumey
11/09/23 9:08:38 AM
#255:


IGCD, next time you're in topic, please give a time you will be available to claim with SBell.

Sultan, next time you're in topic, either claim or tell us if you're waiting to claim for some specific reason.

Brohan. Claim. If you're town and don't have the availability to keep up with the topic, just give us your info so we can try and game solve.

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 10:02:22 AM
#256:


Why do we need to claim again?

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Corrik7
11/09/23 10:05:36 AM
#257:


I could make compelling arguments for Ashe, Wallz, BCT, and Edumey being town.

I'm considering maybe its best to go off the beaten path here. = /

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Obellisk
11/09/23 10:10:14 AM
#258:


hey I'm here for a sec, not stalling at all, death.

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htaeD
11/09/23 10:14:52 AM
#259:


Obellisk posted...
hey I'm here for a sec, not stalling at all, death.


Well I hope not.
Whats your tme schedule look like today?

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htaeD
11/09/23 10:15:16 AM
#260:


Thats supposed to say time
Phoneposting sucks

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EDumey
11/09/23 10:37:10 AM
#261:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Why do we need to claim again?

Because we have multiple scanners and our protection already outted, so mass claim helps us find scum because they have to commit to claims now. We have zero scum lynched and are possibly in or right up against MYLO, and need as much info as possible to make informed decisions.

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Obellisk
11/09/23 10:38:02 AM
#262:


I keep forgetting to look back at my phone cause I'm working.

but I'm around. just tell me a time to post my claim and it's yours.

I'm not really concerned I'm gunna get lynched. the way I've been playing/not playing, I'd think if I was scum it would be clear by now. Additionally, the fact that no town power has tried to target me in any way (assumedly) tells me that only scum want to keep me around in a POE.

so again, the claim is yours when it works for everyone / Sametime.


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htaeD
11/09/23 10:55:41 AM
#263:


@UltimateBrohan

First things first

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 10:59:00 AM
#264:


So I am the Entity

Intuitive / Feline Grace / Eldritch Being

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Obellisk
11/09/23 10:59:34 AM
#265:


How many Feline Grace's have claimed? is that the Ninja quality?


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Obellisk
11/09/23 10:59:49 AM
#266:


is Feline Grace a prominent aspect of this flavor?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:02:26 AM
#267:


I didn't mean to post that yet lol.

Opps

Intuitive ( as discussed before gave me informationin hindsight not to open The box)/ Feline Grace( it's a 1 time use Deflection of a Negative action against me, not sure if it blocks NK though)/ Eldritch Being(I auto hammer in the dark on a tie I kill scum if one of the 2 in the tie is scum. Of both town then it randoms)

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:02:47 AM
#268:


Also my role PM tends to imply that the Entity is more of a non playable character and wouldn't be part of Solo Queue

so I tend to want to lynch Sultan more now.

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:03:44 AM
#269:


From my understanding I'm basically God lol.

I am The 3rd party if I didn't make it obvious before I win with town.

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:05:44 AM
#270:


So when I said you weren't town I was right.

*pats self on back*

##vote: sultan

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:06:08 AM
#271:


Obellisk posted...
So when I said you weren't town I was right.

*pats self on back*

##vote: sultan

I'm not town but I work with Town.

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:06:40 AM
#272:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I'm not town but I work with Town.


you sure about that?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:06:51 AM
#273:


And this is why I didn't want to claim BTW. I knew it basically be instant death oh well

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:08:28 AM
#274:


Yes and this game has been absolute bullshit everything in this game aha been a trap for me to fall into

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EDumey
11/09/23 11:10:15 AM
#275:


Just to check then, as the entity, you don't swap things around? You're always the entity?

Also when corrik was convinced JC was third party, did you ever try to hint to him that he was wrong?

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:11:28 AM
#276:


EDumey posted...
Just to check then, as the entity, you don't swap things around? You're always the entity?

oh good point. so only person who doesn't change?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:11:42 AM
#277:


EDumey posted...
Just to check then, as the entity, you don't swap things around? You're always the entity?

Also when corrik was convinced JC was third party, did you ever try to hint to him that he was wrong?

I litterally asked if there could be 2 third parties lmao

And yeah I'm always the Entity only get the 3 traits.

Also I can say with some confidence scum is the opposite as town and we should have probably killed Ashe long ago. I'm just an idiot lol .

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EDumey
11/09/23 11:14:33 AM
#278:


I should have remembered that about you asking about more than one third party. I did think it was crazy for you to bring up at the moment, but for whatever reason I didn't connect the dots that you were third party at that time.

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:15:33 AM
#279:


Oh

Okay yeah no sense for Sultan to lie about this. Though I am surprised you said it.
Also scum cannot have 5 players at this point.

Why argue with FD so much about traits day1 tho?

And 3rd party probably wins with both scum and town, so you will forgive me if I cannot trust you anymore.
But I will say as a former independent, it does suck if its true that you are just independent with no wincondition.

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:17:10 AM
#280:


Also, that auto hammer power sounds like something you should have told us about ages ago.

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Corrik7
11/09/23 11:17:24 AM
#281:


Sultan just threw up a flag to the scum team that he is survivor. Oh boy.

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Corrik7
11/09/23 11:19:01 AM
#282:


I kinda wanna lynch brohan but then Sultan says hey look at me I'm survivor.

This game wtf is going on.

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EDumey
11/09/23 11:20:35 AM
#283:


Call me crazy, but I kind of want to try letting Sultan's auto lynch ability resolve. >_>

I know it's ALWAYS the wrong decision to try and leash the indy, but it sounds fun. If Sultan isn't lying, then we put someone like Ashethan at -1, then vote a second person we think is scum to -1 and Sultan auto hammers. There should be no fear of a scum rush on the other player, and it gives us a tiny margin of error if we're wrong? Eh. No the only way that really works is if we're already confident about the first person. But if we were confident enough to vote them out anyway, then "risking" a scum rush on them isn't that much of a big deal anyway because we were already going to ML if we were wrong?

I am talking myself in circles. And the worst case scenario is scum Sultan gets us to put up a second person to -1 for an easy scum hammer either today or tomorrow. Probably safer to not get cute with it.

Kind if wish you had told us about this ability on a previous day though, before we feared MYLO. I think it would have been really fun to use this yesterday. Could have sold it as a one time town ability or something.

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:26:19 AM
#284:


I had the same thought
But its risky
Maybe less so if we put Sultan himself up as the 2nd tie.

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:28:15 AM
#285:


Or we just lynch basically confirmed scum Ashe

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:28:48 AM
#286:


htaeD posted...
I had the same thought
But its risky
Maybe less so if we put Sultan himself up as the 2nd tie.
Actually don't think that would work. I think I'd just kill the other person

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:29:44 AM
#287:


No offense Sultan, but I want to be careful here.

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:31:37 AM
#288:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Actually don't think that would work. I think I'd just kill the other person


You cannot hammer yourself period?
I suppose by your terms you are not treated as scum, but not town either then?

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:33:25 AM
#289:


Actually I think we do have an example of selfvotes not counting this game anyway?

Testing

##Vote: Death
##Unvote

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:33:39 AM
#290:


htaeD posted...
You cannot hammer yourself period?
I suppose by your terms you are not treated as scum, but not town either then?
Not that I know of. I dont think I'd kill myself if I was on of the tie. I'd assume it kill the other

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EDumey
11/09/23 11:34:38 AM
#291:


I don't know how the math works. I'd still like to lynch scum over independent. If the MYLO math remains the same either way, I think we get a lot more info out of lynching Ashethan than we do Sultan. But I also understand the need to have something 100% certain. Maybe will depend on if we think our even night night actions will be valuable in getting more info?

But I will leave that to the rest of you to decide. My vote not moving for the moment.

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:37:40 AM
#292:


I didn't read since my last post but just had a thought.

what happens when Sultan is in the tie? caN he be lynched?

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:37:59 AM
#293:


I should l have fake claimed lol

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:38:39 AM
#294:


oh I see it was semi answered.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I'd assume it kill the other


you haven't asked? So it's not random after all

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TheSultanOfSlam
11/09/23 11:39:21 AM
#295:


Obellisk posted...
I didn't read since my last post but just had a thought.

what happens when Sultan is in the tie? caN he be lynched?

If their is a tie at eod I auto hammer scum. If scum is one of the 2 in the tie. If both town it randoms. Pm says nothing about me being in the tie

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:39:23 AM
#296:


I dont think we are at MYLO no
But I dread the idea of Sultan joining up with scum despite him saying he only wins with town
Even his autohammer ability sounds odd since its more sided towards favoring us than scum. But if we can prove it, It does make him sound more like a townsided independent I guess.

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Obellisk
11/09/23 11:39:49 AM
#297:


With how much Isquen loves to write I find it hard to believe he didn't provide you with information regarding your automatic trait and it potentially being used against you

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:40:08 AM
#298:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
I should l have fake claimed lol


I ca feel the struggle, lol.

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htaeD
11/09/23 11:41:54 AM
#299:


5.) Votes, votals-keeping and Stop calls. Keep your votes and actions taken clear. The easier it is to follow what you're attempting, the easier it is to keep the game going. Use this with ##vote: <target> or ##unvote - I will attempt to keep votals accurate. Self-voting is not allowed. No posting after Stop calls! You are liable for refreshing before you post to not violate this. "NIghttime" is considered a Stop until the next Day.

Oh it may just be because of this, Sbell

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Corrik7
11/09/23 11:42:04 AM
#300:


EDumey posted...
Call me crazy, but I kind of want to try letting Sultan's auto lynch ability resolve. >_>

I know it's ALWAYS the wrong decision to try and leash the indy, but it sounds fun. If Sultan isn't lying, then we put someone like Ashethan at -1, then vote a second person we think is scum to -1 and Sultan auto hammers. There should be no fear of a scum rush on the other player, and it gives us a tiny margin of error if we're wrong? Eh. No the only way that really works is if we're already confident about the first person. But if we were confident enough to vote them out anyway, then "risking" a scum rush on them isn't that much of a big deal anyway because we were already going to ML if we were wrong?

I am talking myself in circles. And the worst case scenario is scum Sultan gets us to put up a second person to -1 for an easy scum hammer either today or tomorrow. Probably safer to not get cute with it.

Kind if wish you had told us about this ability on a previous day though, before we feared MYLO. I think it would have been really fun to use this yesterday. Could have sold it as a one time town ability or something.
I don't think anyone is lynching Ashe today. Your scan kinda clears him.

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