Board 8 > Dead by Daylight Topic 7: Or rather, Se7en.

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The fact we haven't lost yet at mylo with the votes on me is interesting. Possible 4 scum with a 3rd party still.

Wallz is scum. But unless igcd is scum also, then there isn't 5 scum. Or we already would have lost. Unless they are wary of some day power or something to nullify their rush.

Or they just haven't lined the rush up yet.

Maybe Changs insistence that JC was town made scum think he had something?

Though JC also insisted that Ashe was town.

I don't think a ninja would show up to edumey btw. That seems completely nonsensical.

Votals
[2]Ashe - Dumey, IGCD
[1]Corrik - Wallz, (IGCD)

Corrik7 posted...

The fact we haven't lost yet at mylo with the votes on me is interesting. Possible 4 scum with a 3rd party still.

Wallz is scum. But unless igcd is scum also, then there isn't 5 scum. Or we already would have lost. Unless they are wary of some day power or something to nullify their rush.

Or they just haven't lined the rush up yet.

Surprised you havent called me scum for it yet
Since I was asleep and all

htaeD posted...

Hrm.

I wouldnt have minded so much if you hadnt said you would do it
Since I did leave you with multiple choices... which I mostly did because at the time I thought all 3 were potential scum and I wanted to see what you would do. That and I was too tired to think things through.

Your switch from Corrik to JC is in your nature perhaps, but very suspect nonetheless. Especially if Corrik is scum.
Though you probably dont need me to say that.

You not specifically telling me to vote who you were on also left me with a bit of doubt

IfGodCouldDie posted...

You not specifically telling me to vote who you were on also left me with a bit of doubt

I felt just telling you to vote Ashe wouldn't have given me as much information as seeing what you would do with multiple options.
I thought both JC and Ashe were scum anyway, I just liked JC more as a player.

But in hindsight I shouldnt have made the Brohan joke, and in super hindsight I probably should have just been more forceful and focused you on Ashe.

I think it's time to massclaim.

My enthusiasm for this game is dead atm...

##Vote:Ashe.

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

Corrik7 posted...

I didn't even know the votals. I asked for them repeatedly.

I'm our protection though. So... lol.

Btw, JCs play after reading his flip is literally nonsensical.

Even if youre town I completely doubt you would just out yourself as protection. From what I have seen youre either the last one to claim in a mass claim or you let everyone else claim then you dont claim lol.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

##Vote:Ashe.

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

The problem with edumeys claim is that it wouldn't have seen a ninja and Ashe claimed a ninja on day 1 I think.

It's possible both could be town here and your justification is actually a game sealing set of mislynches.

wallmasterz posted...

Even if youre town I completely doubt you would just out yourself as protection. From what I have seen youre either the last one to claim in a mass claim or you let everyone else claim then you dont claim lol.

Did I out myself.

Corrik7 posted...

The problem with edumeys claim is that it wouldn't have seen a ninja and Ashe claimed a ninja on day 1 I think.

It's possible both could be town here and your justification is actually a game sealing set of mislynches.

How likely do you think this is since youve posted a minimum of three, and I believe it was actually four times, specifically to say Sultan is town. Which yes I find that weird.

Didnt you?
TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

What makes you so sure we already dont have 0 mislynches left?

Corrik7 posted...

Did I out myself.

If youre protection and say Im our protection then yes. But I doubt youd ever do that as protection since Ive seen you be the only one not to participate in your own mass claim. I think its a scum move.

wallmasterz posted...

How likely do you think this is since youve posted a minimum of three, and I believe it was actually four times, specifically to say Sultan is town. Which yes I find that weird.

I don't think Sultan is saying that as scum. I am saying it could be an error to assume what he is assuming.

wallmasterz posted...

If youre protection and say Im our protection then yes. But I doubt youd ever do that as protection since Ive seen you be the only one not to participate in your own mass claim. I think its a scum move.

I also said I know Ashe was roleblocked too.

Did I out myself.

Corrik7 posted...

I don't think Sultan is saying that as scum. I am saying it could be an error to assume what he is assuming.

Re-read the quoted post and I get it now.

Corrik7 posted...

I also said I know Ashe was roleblocked too.

Did I out myself.

As scum yes. But you know I cant get you lynched so it doesnt matter lol

wallmasterz posted...

Re-read the quoted post and I get it now.

As scum yes. But you know I cant get you lynched so it doesnt matter lol

So if I outted myself as scum. And I know Ashe was roleblocked. Then you think Ashe is town then?

Follow me through your logic.

So it makes me think dumey is town even more wouldn't someone on a scum team know Ashe claimed ninja day 1 and be like dude that's a terrible fake claim in that case?

You claimed to know Ashe was actually roleblocked two posts after Ashe said they were roleblocked, it means absolutely nothing about Ashes alignment and there could be any combo between the two of you but I strongly believe youre scum. This feels like a question meant to lead down a rabbit hole.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So it makes me think dumey is town even more wouldn't someone on a scum team know Ashe claimed ninja day 1 and be like dude that's a terrible fake claim in that case?

I said, what if both are town. I'm not saying Ashe is town. I am saying I know he didn't do the nightkill last night. But I am saying if edumey is town who scanned what he thinks damns Ashe and Ashe is actually town because he wouldn't show up to the scan, then your it is edumey 1 for 1ing if Ashe is actually town is a wrong assumption.

wallmasterz posted...

You claimed to know Ashe was actually roleblocked two posts after Ashe said they were roleblocked, it means absolutely nothing about Ashes alignment and there could be any combo between the two of you but I strongly believe youre scum. This feels like a question meant to lead down a rabbit hole.

So you think i opened up all kinds of possibilities to be found out as lying before people spoke today to confirm Ashe was indeed roleblocked? I mean, you are jumping through major hoops to avoid logically coming to the conclusion that we both can't be scum together.

Corrik I need to ask you something

On odd numbered nights do you have a trait that starts with the letter t

and if so without needing to go into more specifics than you want, can you tell me the name of that trait

wallmasterz posted...

Corrik I need to ask you something

On odd numbered nights do you have a trait that starts with the letter t

and if so without needing to go into more specifics than you want, can you tell me the name of that trait

Yes. Tormenting

Thats not the answer I was expecting but I appreciate you answering nonetheless.

Im dumb and it took me a minute to connect your Ashe comment and you claiming to be protection. And now I get how both things click and why I can pretty safely assume you and Ashe arent the same alignment.

I have a different trait on even numbered nights that acts as a counterpart to your RBing trait. They dont act exactly the same but they are similar. Mine is territorial.

Interesting. Hmmm.

I suppose tormenting might not be the trait with the active ability but point being regardless of your alignment we are counterparts in the rb ability. I am still a bit nervous of Corrik who is alive on d4 but you able to rb on nights opposite of me is not a bad sign.

Poor Rick you complete me

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

Am i miscounting or is the game just over is he isn't?

I'm pretty sure hes scum but also hes claimed ninja and there is confirmed poison seen on the target.

It certainly makes me a bit nervous because it doesn't really add up at a glance(scum claiming ninja feels like they would actually be ninja?).

But I also still dont really buy Ashes claim. He is still claiming no switch when host very clearly said everyone switched.

Leafeon13N posted...

Am i miscounting or is the game just over is he isn't?

I'm pretty sure hes scum but also hes claimed ninja and there is confirmed poison seen on the target.

It certainly makes me a bit nervous because it doesn't really add up at a glance(scum claiming ninja feels like they would actually be ninja?).

But I also still dont really buy Ashes claim. He is still claiming no switch when host very clearly said everyone switched.

No I think I'm just bad at math lol

1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. EDumey / Dumey
4. htaeD / Death
5. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
6. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
7. Obellisk / Sbell
8. red13n / Leafeon13n
9. TheSultanofSlam / Sultan
10. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
11. wallmasterz / Wallz

If ashe is town and Dumey is town I think
11-1 is 10
Night kill if unblocked 9
We kill the other
8
Plus a might kill
7
So it be 3 v 4 if we are correct to assume 4 scum they have the majority.

Right

Oh that explains that, Sultan.

Yeah I assume Ashe is probably not the poisoner.
Or else why pretend to be a ninja?

That said I thought Ashe claimed that he did switch and that he just lied about when he switched to survivor or killer. Its hard to keep track of his stories.

justconfused on how Dumey would have seen Ashe then and why wait until today if that happened night 1 I am slightly weary if Dumey here but doesn't make sense for scum to do this.

Idk I'm a bit lost.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

justconfused on how Dumey would have seen Ashe then and why wait until today if that happened night 1 I am slightly weary if Dumey here but doesn't make sense for scum to do this.

Idk I'm a bit lost.

I only just got this info last night. My role investigates all past activities, which is why I have the N1 and D2 info.

He said he didnt get his info until night3
He apparently targeted me night1 and nothing happened to me..
He targeted FD last night and got info on everything that happened to him.
Pretty strong power really. But again I dont think he can be lying about it.

htaeD posted...

He said he didnt get his info until night3
He apparently targeted me night1 and nothing happened to me..
He targeted FD last night and got info on everything that happened to him.
Pretty strong power really. But again I dont think he can be lying about it.

If Ashe is ninja which he said from day 1 and had no reason to lie about. And a poison was seen on fd night 1. It means either scum went to fd twice in one night or Ashe is town.

Btw Corrik, your night3 target?

EDumey posted...

I only just got this info last night. My role investigates all past activities, which is why I have the N1 and D2 info.

Ohhh

I am an idiot
I meant to say
night1 target
Since I dont think you told us about that action yet

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

No I think I'm just bad at math lol

1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. EDumey / Dumey
4. htaeD / Death
5. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
6. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
7. Obellisk / Sbell
8. red13n / Leafeon13n
9. TheSultanofSlam / Sultan
10. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
11. wallmasterz / Wallz

If ashe is town and Dumey is town I think
11-1 is 10
Night kill if unblocked 9
We kill the other
8
Plus a might kill
7
So it be 3 v 4 if we are correct to assume 4 scum they have the majority.

Right

Scum should be 5 or am i crazy

Leafeon13N posted...

Scum should be 5 or am i crazy

Then it be Mylo would be today?

11- 1
10
Nk
9 would be 5 v 4

ctesjbuvf posted...

Votals
[2]Ashe - Dumey, IGCD
[1]Corrik - Wallz, (IGCD)

On top of this, Sultan voted Ashe. So even if theres four scum, it seems safe to say either Ashe is scum or theres already scum on the Ashe lynch.

Well actually I dont know how a hypothetical 3p would factor into this due to lack of mafia experience. Wouldnt scum still win if they have a majority to control the lynch? Or could scum be playing it cautious here worrying about a 3p having a separate win con?

Red you havent said much. What is your opinion of Dumey and whats your take on Ashe?

Scum fearing a 3p win condition?
Nah that would never happen...
...

I kid
But like I said I am not going to assume that we are at Mylo already.
If scum didnt have that extra kill through poison then 5 scum is what I would expect. Now I am not certain.

Even though jc was town the chain hunt is also more likely to remove town from the game from a numbers standpoint. PLUS we lost a lynch and day ended and then scum got a normal nk

Probably just four. Five would be too many with this set up imo

Corrik7 posted...

Chang was probably just killed because they are searching for power.

Oh, does this mean you don't want me looking back at him? Why ever for?

Corrik7 posted...

For the record, Ashe was actually roleblocked last night.

You still haven't explained this. This could mean several things, in order from likeliest to least likely:

1. You're the odd-night town jailer, and it's kind of OP for town to have alternating blockers with a 4-man scum team
2. You're scum roleblocker and you blocked Ethan
3. You're scum and trying to fish to see who blocked your teammate
4. You are some kind of watcher or tracker who can see what was done, and you thus know who the scum RB is

Also, FTR, I don't like all the votes on Ethan right now. If Ethan is scum, which is looking likely, it's entirely possible scum is trying to feed him to the wolves.

wallmasterz posted...

I have a different trait on even numbered nights that acts as a counterpart to your RBing trait. They dont act exactly the same but they are similar. Mine is territorial.

Do explain how "territorial" works.

BCT you seem to be fishing..

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

BCT you seem to be fishing..

Please explain why pointing this out to scum benefits town in any shape or form. I don't like this post at all.

3. If I am scum with Ashe and my teammate Ashe was roleblocked, I would have to know Town roleblocked him. Thus, Town would claim the roleblock on Ashe and then want to know how the fuck I know that he was.

That makes literally zero sense BCT. Nor has anyone claimed responsibility for the roleblock otherwise. So it's revisionist.

2. If I am scum roleblocker, then Ashe is town. Again we can't be scum together. But, why did I help him out corroborating what happened and not just stay silent and push him instead? Not too likely.

1. This is speculation.

4. I haven't outted completely that is correct. But, if I had seen a scum roleblocker in action, I doubt I would be holding onto the info instead of you know... killing them?