Board 8 > What should I know about Bloodborne? (ATTN Fromsoft people)

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It's been a while, but I think it brings you pretty close and facing the right direction but not actually there. But again, been a few years so idk for sure.

htaeD posted...

Doesnt beating Rom teleport you to where you need to go?

yes thank goodness

I really feel like Father Gascoignes theme is masteclass vgm. Its so relentlessly angry and oppressive, and it fits his lore perfectly. Its also a perfect introduction for the player like welcome to bloodborne - this is what it means to be a hunter

im gonna restart the game after i finish it just so i can actually hear it this time lol

Definitely one of the best tracks.

If you beat rom then you're definitely ready for the start of the dlc. Treat it as another place you can go when you hit a wall. Especially if you're doing chalice dungeons then there shouldn't be any need to grind for anything, unless you're losing tens of thousands of echoes on the regular.

Yeah I remember on my first playthrough I would switch back and forth between advancing in the main story, and advancing in the chalice dungeons. At one point I was taking a break from story progress by doing chalice progress, and vice versa, so it was like I was taking a break from Bloodborne by playing more Bloodborne.

Probably the #1 thing I would change about the game would be to make Chalice progress global across all characters, not just across NG cycles. At this point I have done the mandatory chalice dungeons SO MANY times, I really don't enjoy that part of the game anymore at all. I do like the endgame chalice stuff, but it takes so long to get a character to that point, and it'd be so much better if the game would let me just immediately go into the depth 5 randomized dungeons without needing to do the entire sequence on every single fresh file.

One Reborn down

Oh hey college hat zombies, i remember these guys!

Also i saw a spider monster with its back towards me

player note: dont be fooled

Me: attacks it and kills it

Spider monster turns around and has a human face uncharitably done good sir *dies* lmao wut

LMAO

That was Patches.

lmao amazing

got the pizza cutter. Thanks for reminding me blur

the running heavy attack with the pizza cutter is so cool

lmao can just hold it out like a chainsaw and run around with it thats SO COOL

Bloodborne has a bunch of cool weapons. The variety is so good.

pizza cutter is near the top, but I could probably gush about almost every weapon in the game at this point. there's a few that feel a bit clunky compared to the top tier weapons but most everything is fun in some way... and most weapons shine in at least one particular situation.

among my favorites are

hunter axe - the spin to win works perfectly in the context of this specific game and you can see that it was designed with the rally system in mind. you can take several attacks while diving into a horde of enemies, and recover all of the health as you slash through them. it also has an absurd amount of stagger and knockdown that can send almost any enemy in the game flying, including many enemies that can't be moved by any other attack. the only negative thing I have to say about this weapon is that it makes me never want to use the Kirkhammer, because this handles so much better for the exact same build.

reiterpallasch - I just think a gunblade is cool, and this thing is the ultimate hunter killer. including bosses like lady maria. it's so easy to set up parry with it, and since it's a dex weapon, your visceral attacks likely do high damage.

rifle spear - very underrated weapon that is good without really needing to shoot. the key feature is the ability to swap between a one handed and two handed moveset, with a variety of attacks that have good range and tracking. it just handles in a very satisfying way, while outputting solid damage and stagger. although the fact that it's another gun blade is cool, too. the stagger from the pellets is useful, especially with the wide firing radius, but you won't really get a lot of damage out of this gun.

saw spear - despite being one of the most basic weapons in the game it's also one of the most effective, and I'll never get over how cool the L1 attack chains are.

rifle spear has a lot in common with the pizza cutter now that I think about it. both of them have that 1H->2H mindset, seeming to have the perfect speed, damage output, and feel in either mode. both of them don't particularly rely on the L2 for standard combat, so they feel like they are 'down' a move in their moveset compared to other weapons, but make up for it in their insane reliability with L1, R1, and R2 attacks. to be honest, most weapons in the game have at least one button you'll rarely press with that weapon. so if that button happens to be L2 it's not a huge deal.

TomNook7 posted...

lmao can just hold it out like a chainsaw and run around with it thats SO COOL

Yessssss it's so much fun and you're welcome!

My first playthrough I used mostly the Tonitrus after I got it. Hilariously, I didn't even know for like half the game that its transformation temporarily powered it up. Just never tried to transform it for some dumb reason! NG+ I alternated between Ludwig's Holy Blade and the Whirlygig Saw. Used mostly the pizza cutter for bosses because its stagger damage is amazing. But once I started leveling up my dex too, the holy blade became ridiculously powerful because it scales well with both that and strength. And non-transformed, it attacks so much faster than the pizza cutter. Which I used really depended on the boss.

Good luck on the final boss of the DLC, my friend. I suppose you'll have to beat him before the regular final boss, though honestly I can't remember if the DLC works like the chalice dungeons and saves your progress going to NG+. Even if it does though, not sure you wanna take on DLC final boss on NG+. Pizza cutter makes that boss a lot easier though.

And what are your blood gems looking like?

Yesh i was using the tonitrus before i found the pizza cutter. Its like on one hand i miss builds, but on the other hand experimenting with every weapon is s blast. Almost feels like monster hunter in that way

ill let you know about my blood gems later when im playing

Right now i can take on paarl, the nightmare college place, the dlc, or the fire dog thing in the chalice.

I actually dont fully understand how the chalice dungeons work lol. I have a ton of chalice items but im scared to waste them or do something wrong because i know these are related to the platinum tropht. so i just have one dungeon open right now

Yeah the fact that you don't need materials again when creating glyph chalice dungeons is a godsend. And of course you can look up dungeons with all the best Caryll Runes and whatnot

MariaTaylor posted...

I could probably gush about almost every weapon in the game at this point. there's a few that feel a bit clunky compared to the top tier weapons but most everything is fun in some way... and most weapons shine in at least one particular situation.

Agreed. Every single weapon in bloodborne is special. If i had to pick a least favorite it would be the saw spear, but even that one I've still had fun with at one point or another.

They balanced these weapons like its a professional level fighting game

I left work early so i could play bloodborne

I wanna crush this game up into tiny pieces and shoot it up my nose and put it into my body where it belongs

Oh, and I forget what unlocks when, but you can buy chalice materials from the Insight Shop. Usually it's after you need it, but in particular I think there's something (forget what) you buy from there in order to ignore Hintertombs chalices. That was actually patched in later.

Things to note:

Make sure you fully explore every layer of every chalice so you aren't missing materials for the next one. If you are missing something, check with Google as to where you can find/farm it.
PS+ is required for glyph searches.

1. Pthumeru Chalice
2. Central Pthumeru
3. Lower Pthumeru - Make sure you get the Workshop Haze Extractor from Layer 2. There are 4 layers in this chalice.
4. Ailing Loran
5. Defiled Chalice
6. Lower Loran and Great Isz - Order doesn't matter.
7. Pthumeru Ihyll

Once the above is done, make any root chalice with all three rites (Fetid, Rotted, Cursed - referred to as FRC). Making an FRC Isz root is one of the faster/cheaper ones. You do not need to complete whatever FRC root you make.

You now have access to all important glyphs. Use the "Search by Chalice Glyph" function to create the dungeon you need. This will not consume materials.

The Bloodborne Sheets - Has glyphs for gems and other goodies.

I saved this from an old reddit thread a while ago and I still look back at it every so often when I need a reminder. Although I used to have a .png version that also told you which floors you can 'skip' in the mandatory dungeons. I wish I could find that. I also have The Bloodborne Sheets bookmarked, so I can provide that:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview#

However, there have been times where some of the glyphs on here have been outdated and the codes no longer work, so sometimes it takes a few tries to find what you're looking for. Either way, that's a long ways off. It's not worth using root dungeons or chalice glyphs until AFTER you have access to FRC Depth 5 Dungeons. Anything before that is a waste of your time.

With regards to Blood Gem set ups, I won't overwhelm you with too much information, but anything that gives +% Physical Damage or +% Damage is usually going to be optimal, at least for the time being. You'll pick up a number of gems just playing through the mandatory chalice dungeons, and start to get actually good ones around Depth 2 or 3. Enough to boost your attack power. Some enemies in the DLC also drop Blood Gems in a decent +% Physical Damage range, so it can be worth it to play the DLC a bit until you get a few extra gems. Especially if you're using multiple weapons.

There is a sheet that describes the optimal gem slot set up, and the gems to put into each slot, for each weapon. I'll share that as well later on if you need it, but that's not something you will need until/unless you get absolutely DEEP into the game. This is a mechanic very few people ever fully engage with.

Nevermind, I'm dumb. I found the PNG that shows the mandatory dungeons to clear, in what order, as well as which floors you can skip over. It was saved as an album, that's why I didn't find it right away. Well, I highly recommend using this to make the experience go a little more smoothly.

https://imgur.com/KgVUkyd?r

Thank you guys for posting all this for me

wew

making a topic about bloodborne is like the last, reliable way to still summon me to board 8

My favorite thing about board 8 has always been being able to summon the fandoms at will, so i appreciate you

Its gonna be a sad day when this place is gone

darkbeast paarl down

I've got hundreds of hours in bloodborne but have never gotten that deep into the chalices beyond the mandatory ones. Crf and strongest possible gem slots and alternate weapon variations never appealed much to me, but it's great that they exist for the super die hards.

TomNook7 posted...

I wanna crush this game up into tiny pieces and shoot it up my nose and put it into my body where it belongs

Least passionate Bloodborne enjoyer

This is basically how I felt though, wish I could wipe my mind of that first playthrough and experience everything new again

Not needing to actually kill the dungeons Darkbeast Camera terror is a great boon.

I found the back door to iosefkas clinic

Did not expect to find the blue aliens

Are they even aliens or whats the lore with these things lol. I just imagine them as lesser aliens who hitched a ride to this planet with the great ones

Also some lady on a table bent over, with a player message behind her that says time for thrusting lmao

so i thrusted, and to my surprise got an umbilical cord. I dont know who that lady was but thanks for the cord

Made it to cainhurst, and got a trophy for getting there, so obviously i never made it here in my last playthrough, so fuck yeah something completely new to me. But then my wife kicked me off the ps5 so she could play baldurs gate 3 but i shall return tomorrow

Honestly i dont know if ive been doing something wrong, but i havent seen any npcs. I havent sent a single person to oedon. I met Alfred twice, and Eileen the Crow once before she disappeared forever, and thats literally it. I really feel like i let the dweller down

i guess i need to google them. I watched vaatividyas gascoigne lore video, and i completely missed his daughter, let alone sending her to oedon (even though she gets eaten by the pig which is so ridiculously dark i love it lmao)

Once you've off'd Rom, that's basically it for most NPCs in the normal game. Whoever isn't in the chapel at that point is gone. You can still get the three cords ending though since you got the Iosefka one

Shame about Eileen if you missed that quest chain. It would have been funny to see your reaction to a certain part and she gives a really good reward

Oh damn. Whats the deal with Rom? Why does killing him cause such an earth-shattering event?

But thats aight im gonna do all the npc quests on ng+ for sure

Been a while since I read up on BB lore, but from what I can recall, Rom was like a filter preventing the true horrors from affecting moral perception.

Here's some in-game text examples:

"The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals and keeps our lost master from us. A terrible shame. It makes my head shudder uncontrollably." - Note from library area just beyond the Tomb of Oedon.

"The spider hides all manner of rituals, certain to reveal nothing, for true enlightenment need not be shared." - Note from the second floor of Byrgenwerth.

Pirateking2000 posted...

Yeah the earth shattering event was actually already happening. Rom was concealing it so taking her out lifted the curtain to show what was really going on

why is this like actually kinda terrifying

TomNook7 posted...

why is this like actually kinda terrifying

If ya think that's wacky keep trying to find the remaining secret areas

I missed Eileen even on NG+ like an idiot. Shame because she does give a super good reward I definitely could have used!

You can still meet Eileen even if you fail to complete her quest. If you go to the Grand Chapel, where you fought Vicar Amelia, she will be waiting there to fight you. If you complete her quest line, this is where you would normally fight the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst.

Bloody Crow, despite not even being a boss, is considered by lots of people to be one of the hardest bosses in Bloodborne. Fighting Eileen there is a little bit easier.

MariaTaylor posted...

You can still meet Eileen even if you fail to complete her quest. If you go to the Grand Chapel, where you fought Vicar Amelia, she will be waiting there to fight you. If you complete her quest line, this is where you would normally fight the Bloody Crow of Cainhurst.

Yeah I think I had already killed Rom too when I read about that

Cainhurst castle was very cool. Youd think winter castle with vampires and wraiths would get tired eventually, but theres just something about the fromsoft touch that breathes new life into dark fantasy

Martyr might be a bit tough right now. I think the pizza cutter is a bit slow for this guy, so im gonna wait till my reiterpallasch is strong enough and go back. Also I wanna be able to gun parry this guy

Amygdala down. Was not expecting to fight a great one holy shit. Also got the trophy for him, so i mustve never found him before

Back in 2015 i didnt know what the hell i was doing lol

Did you put on the crown reward while there?

Pirateking2000 posted...

Did you put on the crown reward while there?

i have no idea what this means

i found a funny wig if thats what you mean, and yes i did

Ah nevermind I misread and thought you beat Martyr. He gives an apparel reward as part of his drops you will want to throw on while there

Pirateking2000 posted...

Did you put on the crown reward while there?

This is post-Martyr Logarius fight, not Amygdala.

And I 100% used Ludwig's Holy Blade for that fight. Yeah, I wouldn't bother trying the pizza cutter on him.

Martyr is such a weird fight for me. Sometimes i am in the zone and can get through him relatively easily, other times i have a weird brain setting turned on and he completely wrecks me.

I could probably take him with the tonitrus but i dont wanna be boring and use the same weapon the whole game