Current Events > Israel/Palestina War 12: Attacking the worlds biggest refugee camp

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Foppe posted...

Benny Gantz, an Israel minister without portfolio, now says that IDF will walk into Rafah at the start of Ramadan unless Hamas releases the hostages.

This is the person most likely to replace Netanyahu threatening military action against civilian targets to coerce Hamas into action. It is literal terrorism with strong genocidal overtones.

Remember this when Netanyahu gets blamed for everything. It's not just him.

ScazarMeltex posted...

So you've gone ahead, just like Netanyahu, and moved on from the hostage narrative have you? Tired of pretending? Finally acknowledging it's just about vengeance and killing as many Palestinians as possible?
Netanyahu has already said they will be going into Rafah even if an agreement to get the hostages back is reached, so I guess you had to change your views to match.

You guys are really incapable of separating anyone who might even lean towards Israel in any way with Bibi, arent you?

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

You guys are really incapable of separating anyone who might even lean towards Israel in any way with Bibi, arent you?

We put in the same effort in your perspective as you do with answering our questions from ours.

The difference being that we have evidence on our side. You're more like a broken record.

Still waiting on that answer BTW or should I take your silence as you conceding the point?

Fire_Emblem_ posted...

Currently it was Hamas though.

Because this happens in a complete vacuum and we must take this at exactly face value.

Yep. That's a good take.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

You guys are really incapable of separating anyone who might even lean towards Israel in any way with Bibi, arent you?

We're about as good as it as Israel is at telling the difference between a terrorist and a toddler.

Here's another gem of Israel "defending human rights".

https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1atw3oc/australian_man_defends_palestinian_kid_against/

Explain to me how this is Israel defending human rights. I genuinely want to know as "someone who is ignorant".

DrizztLink posted...

We're about as good as it as Israel is at telling the difference between a terrorist and a toddler.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D3uQbiE8No

"You know our motto. There are no 'uninvolved' [civilians]."

Reimu posted...

We put in the same effort in your perspective as you do with answering our questions from ours.

The difference being that we have evidence on our side. You're more like a broken record.

Still waiting on that answer BTW or should I take your silence as you conceding the point?

Answer to what question? I get asked so many its hard to keep track. Especially since anytime I answer, all I get is the shut up, we know your track record, stop supporting genocide of the internet lynch mob instead of taking each post in its proper context.

darkace77450 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1D3uQbiE8No

This made me full of anger, fuck.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/rep-jim-clyburn-biden-feels-way-feel-benjamin-netanyahus-leadership-no-rcna139390

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

You guys are really incapable of separating anyone who might even lean towards Israel in any way with Bibi, arent you?

I don't support Hamas or Houthis or what ever other far right organization people decided they like because they're anti-West or whatever, but you are literally one of the most disingenuous pro-Israel posters in these threads. You constantly come across as only caring about the dead or kidnapped Israelis and blame Hamas for all the dead civilians. And I get it, the US does this all the time where they say if civilians didn't want to die it was the government's fault for the war and they should have surrendered, etc. It's a nice narrative because you talk about some bad thing an adult did instead of trying to explain why some babies deserved to die. But regardless of which war you're trying to justify killing civilians in, it's wrong every time. And even if you claim you aren't trying to justify killing civilians your posts strongly come across that way and I really have trouble believing you care about any of the Palestinian civilian deaths outside of it being "bad PR".

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Answer to what question? I get asked so many its hard to keep track. Especially since anytime I answer, all I get is the shut up, we know your track record, stop supporting genocide of the internet lynch mob instead of taking each post in its proper context.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80692928/978905274

Gaza doctors: We leave patients to scream for hours and hours

Doctors across Gaza have described operating on patients without anaesthetic, turning people with chronic conditions away, and treating rotting wounds with limited medical supplies.

"Because of the shortage of painkillers we leave patients to scream for hours and hours," one told the BBC.

The World Health Organization (WHO) has described the state of healthcare in Gaza as being "beyond words". It said 23 hospitals in Gaza were not functioning at all as of Sunday - 12 were partially functioning and one minimally.

The health agency said air strikes and a lack of supplies have "depleted an already under-resourced system".

[...]

A WHO team said they recently met a seven-year-old girl at the European Gaza hospital who was suffering from 75% burns, but unable to receive pain relief because of short supplies.

Dr Mohamed Salha, acting director of northern Gaza's Al-Awda hospital, said people had been transported for treatment there on donkeys and horses. "The catastrophe is when the patients' wounds are rotting, as the wounds have been open for more than two or three weeks," he said. He said doctors there had performed surgeries by the light of headtorches because of electricity shortages.

More in article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68331988

ssjevot posted...

I don't support Hamas or Houthis or what ever other far right organization people decided they like because they're anti-West or whatever, but you are literally one of the most disingenuous pro-Israel posters in these threads. You constantly come across as only caring about the dead or kidnapped Israelis and blame Hamas for all the dead civilians. And I get it, the US does this all the time where they say if civilians didn't want to die it was the government's fault for the war and they should have surrendered, etc. It's a nice narrative because you talk about some bad thing an adult did instead of trying to explain why some babies deserved to die. But regardless of which war you're trying to justify killing civilians in, it's wrong every time. And even if you claim you aren't trying to justify killing civilians your posts strongly come across that way and I really have trouble believing you care about any of the Palestinian civilian deaths outside of it being "bad PR".

What we see here could be the other side of the selfhating Jew doctrine.
Some Jewish communities are very strict when it is about Israel. It is the Jewish State in the Holy Land, thereby it is almost a sin to say anything badly about it.
If you dont agree with it, then you are called a selfhating Jew and the community you grew up with starts cutting their ties with you.
The fear of losing the community you grew up with combined with hearing your whole life that Israel cant do anything wrong results in them automatically blocking out the bad things Israel does, and they make up excuses.
I mean, remember what he said in one of the earlier threads... the problem wasnt what Israel did, the problem was that it was being reported, because it could be used as propaganda to demonise Jews.

ssjevot posted...

I don't support Hamas or Houthis or what ever other far right organization people decided they like because they're anti-West or whatever, but you are literally one of the most disingenuous pro-Israel posters in these threads. You constantly come across as only caring about the dead or kidnapped Israelis and blame Hamas for all the dead civilians. And I get it, the US does this all the time where they say if civilians didn't want to die it was the government's fault for the war and they should have surrendered, etc. It's a nice narrative because you talk about some bad thing an adult did instead of trying to explain why some babies deserved to die. But regardless of which war you're trying to justify killing civilians in, it's wrong every time. And even if you claim you aren't trying to justify killing civilians your posts strongly come across that way and I really have trouble believing you care about any of the Palestinian civilian deaths outside of it being "bad PR".

And these aren't civilians as collateral damage. This is the specific targeting of civilians. This is snipers shooting children in the head. This is leaving babies to die in incubators. This is returning to the site of a civilian car you shot up because someone called and said there was a little girl left alive in it and then killing her and the ambulance crew sent to have her.

This is either the IDF being rotten from the ground up and going against orders to minimize civilian casualties just so they can murder Palestinians or the orders to commit these crimes are coming from the Government.

Remember the cease fire and hostage exchange?
IDF thought that it was more important to snipe a kid than to keep the cease fire and trying to get back more hostages.

Reimu posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80692928/978905274

How the fuck am I supposed to answer that question? Its clearly in bad faith and written in bad faith, and assumes I am the answer boy for all things done by the Israeli government and the IDF around here.

ssjevot posted...

I don't support Hamas or Houthis or what ever other far right organization people decided they like because they're anti-West or whatever, but you are literally one of the most disingenuous pro-Israel posters in these threads. You constantly come across as only caring about the dead or kidnapped Israelis and blame Hamas for all the dead civilians. And I get it, the US does this all the time where they say if civilians didn't want to die it was the government's fault for the war and they should have surrendered, etc. It's a nice narrative because you talk about some bad thing an adult did instead of trying to explain why some babies deserved to die. But regardless of which war you're trying to justify killing civilians in, it's wrong every time. And even if you claim you aren't trying to justify killing civilians your posts strongly come across that way and I really have trouble believing you care about any of the Palestinian civilian deaths outside of it being "bad PR".

And this is the god damn double standard I am talking about, and probably the reason I havent gone away yet. When the whole board is talking about Palestinian civilians, I have to be the one to remind you that this is a hostage situation, and that twelve hundred people (many were women and children) were massacred in their homes and a music festival - and no country on Earth would let the monsters who did that walk away, even as I condemn the loss of civilian lives in Gaza. And if I ask the question of why Hamas hasnt learned the lessons of history which show quite clearly that violent resistance against occupation doesnt work and only gets your civilians killed, (I mean there was that one time some colonists and the french trapped the british on a beach in Virginia, but the Arabs tried that at least three times - but I digress), and immediately the conversation gets deflected back to any support of Israel must mean you support Genocide without any mention of Hamas at all. And any action taken by an IDF soldier must be a sign that the whole country is rotten, but dont say the same thing about the people of Gaza either, even as many cheered and spit on a dead body of a murdered Israeli or stood by as hostages were paraded through a hospital. And for the record, even as I pointed that out, and show that Hamas has a lot of support in Gaza and the West Bank, that doesnt mean I support or am even remotely support carpet bombing Gaza. Its the hypocrisy that gets me.

And finally, this is the one that really pisses me off, this idea that if you support Israel you support genocide, and it comes across as you dont care about Palestinians. But god forbid if I say a ceasefire without the return of all hostages only encourages the taking of more hostages, and that point gets ignored time and again, even as the damn President of the US stands behind it - no matter how irritated he gets with Bibi and his government (something that neither President Biden or myself are allowed to feel btw) and even then he doesnt support a ceasefire because he knows that YOU DONT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!

So it doesnt seem to matter what my side has to say, because any support of Israel in any way means that you dont give a damn about Palestinians according to the five people who still contribute to these topics. You can call for a two state solution. You can call for a war crimes trial. You can call for a dismantling of all the Jewish settlements in the west bank. You can call for a divided Jerusalem. You can demand Israel write a constitution that protects the rights of all people and adheres to the Universal declaration of Human rights and internal law to the letter - something most countries struggle with btw, and none of it matters.

You want to know why I come across as combative in this place on this issue? Its not because I hate Palestinians. When I went to Hebrew University as a student for three years, I had many Palestinian friends, and ate their food, road their buses, played basketball with them, went to bars, whatever. Its not that I merely hate Hamas, which I do. Its that damn double standard. Its the line in the sand mentality where people dig up horrible shit from1948 to further demonize Israelis today. Its how nothing I say seems to matter between it comes across as not caring like you people know me or anything about me at all. Ive even been accused of having alts, just to show that maybe Im not the only one who feels this way, which is something Ive never done. But again, nothing I say matters, so that cant be true either, is it? The truth doesnt matter, because of how it comes across, right?

This isnt the self hating Jew thing. Jews around the world are going through a crisis of faith right now because of what is being done in their name by right wing religious assholes who dont even recognize their own hypocrisy. But they cant even go through that while standing with their friends and families in Tel Aviv while rockets rain down on their houses because the internet has suddenly decided that unless you stand with the Palestinians right now, you must support genocide.

So heres the heart of the matter. The reason why I constantly bring up the hostages, and dead Israelis. The death toll in Gaza is one sided, which means that the conversation is the numbers game. Thats just how it goes, because when we see atrocities, we look at numbers because the individual stories are too much. So the Palestinians who are suffering get the headlines, both in the media and around here. But that means, someone needs to speak for the victims on the other side, because no one else is, at least on this board. Not at the same rate as supporting the Palestinians anyway.

So Ill end my needlessly long rant here which is more about me getting my feelings out at this point then giving a damn if anyone reads it, with saying this. Theres 136 families right now who dont know if their loved ones are alive or dead because they were kidnapped by Hamas. They feel abandoned by their government and the world because the calls for ceasefires have completely drowned out the call to release the hostages. And every day this goes on, it becomes more likely that this wont end with their loved ones coming home, so their story needs to be heard every day, just as much as the stories coming out of Gaza. I dont look at this atrocity as a numbers game. Every victim, Israeli or Palestinian, has a story. And since everyone else is telling the Palestinian story, I might as well make sure the Israelis are heard as well.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

They feel abandoned by their government and the world because the calls for ceasefires have completely drowned out the call to release the hostages.

You can't return hostages to Israel when Israel is bombing the hostages.

A cease-fire is the pragmatic requirement of a hostage return. You're not going to get hostages until it's safe for them to be brought out.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

But that means, someone needs to speak for the victims on the other side, because no one else is, at least on this board. Not at the same rate as supporting the Palestinians anyway.

No one's forgotten the hostages. Or the victims or the terror attack. But you put your finger on the important thing. "The same rate." Palestine is literally going to cease to exist by the end of the year, if they're lucky, because of Israel responding to the terror attack with genocide.

The big fire needs to be put out before the little fire. Unless you think that the hostages need to be returned before the ethnic cleansing and genocide stops?

Once we stop a people from, you know, going extinct, we can talk about the hostages. Priorities, man. Priorities.

Coward FlyEagle still blocking people that can retort all of his arguments lmao.

Netanyahus acting like hes forgotten about the hostages.

divot1338 posted...

Netanyahus acting like hes forgotten about the hostages.

I'm surprised he hasn't managed to kill all of them by this point with his indiscriminate bombing.

divot1338 posted...

Netanyahus acting like hes forgotten about the hostages.

He never cared about them

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

How the fuck am I supposed to answer that question? Its clearly in bad faith and written in bad faith, and assumes I am the answer boy for all things done by the Israeli government and the IDF around here.

No. You can't answer it because you don't have an answer to it. You just blindly follow and parrot whatever Netanyahu tells you to do while burying your head in the sand of the blatant abuse the IDF does for him. Even in the face of overwhelming direct evidence of said abuse. In return you've posted evidence that was easily challenged and countered within the topic. Even worse is that you admit to as such ("...assumes I am the answer boy for all things...") and still blindly follow. It shows you willfully don't care and willfully turn a blind eye regarding said abuse as long as your side wins.

You don't care about human rights at all and now the proof is visible for all to see. This is why nobody takes you seriously.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Every victim, Israeli or Palestinian, has a story. And since everyone else is telling the Palestinian story, I might as well make sure the Israelis are heard as well.

No one else cares enough to do so, so bless you for telling the Israelis' stories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ1mGV8r4FM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k808GLtoVck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT9w72pUJS0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX7tBAfy8XE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwqXAoZzVyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZYv3UWNTSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dmZeLBauyA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SaiR054tkM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAUW_XftETg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QqFweh3CC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLZ07tIOxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW76wr0SA3E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWu7zjxvOxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sScDHHNaHjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMBuo3RAiVk

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

How the fuck am I supposed to answer that question? Its clearly in bad faith and written in bad faith, and assumes I am the answer boy for all things done by the Israeli government and the IDF around here.

None of this is true. You just don't want to answer because you recognise that the answer disproves your previous lies.

Reimu posted...

No. You can't answer it because you don't have an answer to it. You just blindly follow and parrot whatever Netanyahu tells you to do while burying your head in the sand of the blatant abuse the IDF does for him. Even in the face of overwhelming direct evidence of said abuse. In return you've posted evidence that was easily challenged and countered within the topic. Even worse is that you admit to as such ("...assumes I am the answer boy for all things...") and still blindly follow. It shows you willfully don't care and willfully turn a blind eye regarding said abuse as long as your side wins.

You don't care about human rights at all and now the proof is visible for all to see. This is why nobody takes you seriously.

Another wall talking at me like he knows anything at all. Just another yahoo on keyboard I really shouldnt waste my time on. Have a nice life. Or dont. I dont care, were done here. Just arguing with someone elses alternate account thats eight years old with less than a years worth of karma.

Like I should take THAT seriously.

You should. History doesn't forget.

You dismiss my post yet prove my point yet again. It matters not if you accept it or not. Everyone else can see and judge it for themselves. You don't need me to tell you how that will go.

Kai_Laguna posted...

I'm surprised he hasn't managed to kill all of them by this point with his indiscriminate bombing.

He already did, iirc. There was some statements that some hostages are killed in previous bombings.

Ricemills posted...

Coward FlyEagle still blocking people that can retort all of his arguments lmao.

This is why I argued he should be blocked by Tc. Him and Tom joad shouldn't be allowed here.

tl;dr: reports of summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions and abuse of Palestinian women and children.

UN experts appalled by reported human rights violations against Palestinian women and girls

UN experts today expressed alarm over credible allegations of egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
Palestinian women and girls have reportedly been arbitrarily executed in Gaza, often together with family members, including their children, according to information received. We are shocked by reports of the deliberate targeting and extrajudicial killing of Palestinian women and children in places where they sought refuge, or while fleeing. Some of them were reportedly holding white pieces of cloth when they were killed by the Israeli army or affiliated forces, the experts said.

The experts expressed serious concern about the arbitrary detention of hundreds of Palestinian women and girls, including human rights defenders, journalists and humanitarian workers, in Gaza and the West Bank since 7 October. Many have reportedly been subjected to inhuman and degrading treatment, denied menstruation pads, food and medicine, and severely beaten. On at least one occasion, Palestinian women detained in Gaza were allegedly kept in a cage in the rain and cold, without food.

We are particularly distressed by reports that Palestinian women and girls in detention have also been subjected to multiple forms of sexual assault, such as being stripped naked and searched by male Israeli army officers. At least two female Palestinian detainees were reportedly raped while others were reportedly threatened with rape and sexual violence, the experts said. They also noted that photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances were also reportedly taken by the Israeli army and uploaded online.

The experts expressed concern that an unknown number of Palestinian women and children, including girls, have reportedly gone missing after contact with the Israeli army in Gaza. There are disturbing reports of at least one female infant forcibly transferred by the Israeli army into Israel, and of children being separated from their parents, whose whereabouts remain unknown, they said.

We remind the Government of Israel of its obligation to uphold the right to life, safety, health, and dignity of Palestinian women and girls and to ensure that no one is subjected to violence, torture, ill-treatment or degrading treatment, including sexual violence, the experts said. They called for an independent, impartial, prompt, thorough and effective investigation into the allegations and for Israel to cooperate with such investigations.

Taken together, these alleged acts may constitute grave violations of international human rights and humanitarian law, and amount to serious crimes under international criminal law that could be prosecuted under the Rome Statute, the experts said. Those responsible for these apparent crimes must be held accountable and victims and their families are entitled to full redress and justice, they added.

Source:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

Hornezz posted...

tl;dr: reports of summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions and abuse of Palestinian women and children.

Source:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

More war crimes and human rights abuses.

Also genocide. (Remember that genocide doesn't have to involve killing. It can be as little as separating families and removing them from their cultural knowledge. There's a specific term for that part of genocide but I can't look up how the UN phrases it right now.)

Yall need to chill with Eagles. If you cant discuss this in a civil manner then dont discuss it at all.

Hornezz posted...

tl;dr: reports of summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions and abuse of Palestinian women and children.

Source:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

Yeah, the IDF is really no better than the SS at this point.

Hornezz posted...

tl;dr: reports of summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions and abuse of Palestinian women and children.

Human rights violations come easy to those who dehumanize their enemies.

Hornezz posted...

tl;dr: reports of summary executions, sexual assaults, arbitrary detentions and abuse of Palestinian women and children.

Source:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against

You call October 7 the worst act against jewish since the holocaust...BUT THEN GO AROUND AND DO THATS LITERALLY WORSE. Israel has no moral standing here anymore. They cant be surprised why the world is calling them to stop and they cant play the anti semitism card anymore. Fuck the Israel government and any citizen in favor of all these killings.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68346027

US introduces its own security council resolution calling for a temporary ceasefire in Gaza as soon as practicable and urging against an operation in Rafah.

US will still veto an upcoming Algeria resolution for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire.

divot1338 posted...

Yall need to chill with Eagles. If you cant discuss this in a civil manner then dont discuss it at all.

Genocide apologism isn't civil, so don't expect the response to be civil. Instead, mark the racist troll for being racist and trolling. Problem solved!

divot1338 posted...

Yall need to chill with Eagles. If you cant discuss this in a civil manner then dont discuss it at all.

Being harsh with my points does not equate to being uncivil. If his perspective is untenable, that's his problem, not ours.

Israel May Put New Restrictions on Visiting Aqsa Mosque as Ramadan Nears

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/19/world/middleeast/israel-aqsa-mosque-restrictions.html

Nothing says defending human rights like restricting freedom of religion.

To me, both sides are making this worse. HAMAS doesnt care about it civilians, they glad to let them die to make Israel look bad, which Israel is doing making a bad situation much worse.

No country should help Israel at this point till they clean up their act. The focus also should be getting those hostages out.

South Africa accuses Israel of apartheid against Palestinians at top UN court

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/south-africa-accuses-israel-of-apartheid-against-palestinians-at-top-un-court

When South Africa of all places is calling you out for apartheid....

Reimu posted...

South Africa accuses Israel of apartheid against Palestinians at top UN court

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/south-africa-accuses-israel-of-apartheid-against-palestinians-at-top-un-court

When South Africa of all places is calling you out for apartheid....

Why 'of all places'?

South Africa is better placed than any country to call out apartheid. The country is ruled by those who opposed and suffered under it.

That was the point I was trying to make.

Reimu posted...

That was the point I was trying to make.

My misunderstanding.

I have seen someone on here claim South Africa is being hypocritical for calling out apartheid, but that wasn't what you were doing.

Apologies.

I probably should've phrased it as "When South Africa is calling you out, you know you fucked up".

The US vetoed another UN security council resolution for a cease fire today.

The UK abstained from voting, the 13 other countries were in favor.

Hornezz posted...

The US vetoed another UN security council resolution for a cease fire today.

The UK abstained from voting, the 13 other countries were in favor.

Literally even France (who have always been a close ally) and Russia (who are, well, Russia) are supporting this. Even the UK at least have the decency to not block it.

The fuck is wrong with America?

ScazarMeltex posted...

Yeah, the IDF is really no better than the SS at this point.

Seriously, can we not? Im not disputing that they dont have evidence that would deny credibility to those reports, but the comparison does nothing. Its as equally pointless as when Birkat said that Hamas were worse than Nazis.

Just, let this be its own thing. Its an atrocity. The perpetrators need to be tried in criminal court and held accountable. Do you have to go bringing in the SS to this? Its not the same. Comparable, but its not the same. Let the Holocaust be its own thing. Not saying worse, better - I hate that argument. Just not worth bringing up.

FlyEaglesFly24 posted...

Seriously, can we not? Im not disputing that they dont have evidence that would deny credibility to those reports, but the comparison does nothing. Its as equally pointless as when Birkat said that Hamas were worse than Nazis.

Just, let this be its own thing. Its an atrocity. The perpetrators need to be tried in criminal court and held accountable. Do you have to go bringing in the SS to this? Its not the same. Comparable, but its not the same. Let the Holocaust be its own thing. Not saying worse, better - I hate that argument. Just not worth bringing up.

So which genocide are you okay with us comparing this genocide to?

Your feelings are very important to us.

DrizztLink posted...

So which genocide are you okay with us comparing this genocide to?

Your feelings are very important to us.

Armenian. They're going for the homeless/starvation route, not the systematic execution route.