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Pitbuller_26
02/19/24 8:58:38 PM
#150:


Chicken posted...
Im a socialist so no.

See? Cult. You proudly vote for a man openly bypassing congress to fund the largest genocide in centuries. The only thing he does to fight fascism is shake his finger at Trump because thats literally all he needs to do to earn your vote.

And your blind loyalty will hand Trump the presidency on a silver platter. The republican party is completely evil and the democratic party is half full of people completely okay with genocide as long as its their team committing it, and the other half of the democratic party not voting for Biden because they have a fucking conscience.

Maybe its not apparent to someone that lives in the US how fucking cultish your politics are, but the rest of the world can see it and its fucking embarrassing.

As Biden would say: "Oh shut up, man."

Or the polite tl;dr: We ain't reading all that. We're sorry that happened to you or we're happy that happen for you.
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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 9:06:39 PM
#152:


Chicken posted...
Im a socialist so no.

See? Cult. You proudly vote for a man openly bypassing congress to fund the largest genocide in centuries. The only thing he does to fight fascism is shake his finger at Trump because thats literally all he needs to do to earn your vote.

And your blind loyalty will hand Trump the presidency on a silver platter. The republican party is completely evil and the democratic party is half full of people completely okay with genocide as long as its their team committing it, and the other half of the democratic party not voting for Biden because they have a fucking conscience.

Maybe its not apparent to someone that lives in the US how fucking cultish your politics are, but the rest of the world can see it and its fucking embarrassing.
>Biden has a cult (?)
>Theyre blindly loyal (?)
>These ensured votes actually ensure a trump presidency instead of Biden (???)

Not even your Biden cult fantasy makes any sense dude. Also lol @ HALF of democrats just not voting at all because of their conscience. I hope they feel good about their conscience when the Trump dictatorship starts and they did nothing to stop it.

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:08:02 PM
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Of course not. Why read when you can just sleep your righteous indignation!

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Chicken
02/19/24 9:09:19 PM
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everyone knows its impossible to talk someone out of a cult so Ill stop trying. Enjoy 4 years of orange hitler I guess

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:10:02 PM
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Chicken posted...
everyone knows its impossible to talk someone out of a cult so Ill stop trying. Enjoy 4 years of orange hitler I guess

Fetch ain't happening, bro.

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:11:13 PM
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Nah, nittanylions had a huge meltdown Sunday night leading into today, so this guy gets a mulligan for the week.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 9:12:01 PM
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Chicken posted...
everyone knows its impossible to talk someone out of a cult so Ill stop trying. Enjoy 4 years of orange hitler I guess
Not wanting a fascist dictator is now considering being in a cult. Wow.

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Dark_Arbron
02/19/24 9:12:44 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Nah, nittanylions had a huge meltdown Sunday night leading into today, so this guy gets a mulligan for the week.

Dont rule Billyionaire out either.

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:14:19 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Dont rule Billyionaire out either.

Yeah. If he would have made his bullshit about needing more Christian "values" and God protecting America on it's worst days this week, he'd have been a lock for sure.

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:16:22 PM
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Yeah, regardless of who we think had the worst so far, I definitely think we've filled out quota of dumb for the week.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/19/24 9:16:49 PM
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Chicken posted...
everyone knows its impossible to talk someone out of a cult so Ill stop trying. Enjoy 4 years of orange hitler I guess

Wait, I'm confused. Not wanting a facist cult to run my country for 4 more years means I'm in a cult? Could someone kindly translate, I feel like I'm missing something here.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 9:18:13 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Dont rule Billyionaire out either.
there was also the dude in Jeffs topic about his wifes death that got banned for saying euthanasia should be illegal, and then showed up with alts saying that Jeff and his wife deserved to go to hell.

Probably the most disgusting thing id seen in a bit.

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LightHawKnight
02/19/24 9:19:10 PM
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ItsNotA2Mer posted...
Wait, I'm confused. Not wanting a facist cult to run my country for 4 more years means I'm in a cult? Could someone kindly translate, I feel like I'm missing something here.

The right think we are as insane as they are. Also as gullible.

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Heineken14
02/19/24 9:20:11 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
there was also the dude in Jeffs topic about his wifes death that got banned for saying euthanasia should be illegal, and then showed up with alts saying that Jeff and his wife deserved to go to hell.

Probably the most disgusting thing id seen in a bit.

Holy fuck. That's gross.

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SecretBase
02/19/24 9:23:49 PM
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The "Biden cult" thing is an iffy subject.

On one hand, a lot of this behavior you see isn't about Biden at all. People acted this way for Hillary too. Basically the idea is that you have to vote for anyone who's not a fascist if the alternative is a fascist like Trump. The urgency is not based around the Democratic candidate, but against the Republican candidate.

But... Let's be real. There were a ton of people who thought Biden was the ONLY candidate who could beat Trump, despite there being ZERO data indicating that this was the case, considering polling indicated a ton of Dems could beat Trump. There were also people responding to polls saying they'd vote Biden, but not for any other Democrat. And the second Biden won a single state in the primary the party leaders practically tripped over themselves to endorse him en masse and anoint him as the party standard bearer, despite there being no such response earlier when Buttigieg and Bernie won states. And every time he's in the news for something stupid he said or did his supporters would dismiss all criticism with the fact that Trump was guilty of worse, even during the fucking primary where he was running against other Democrats who obviously weren't Trump. These people felt a guy pushing 80 who lost two presidential elections prior was our only bet to "restore normalcy" in the United States of America. What the fuck is that if not cultish?

Biden supporters are in no way remotely as insane or delusional as Trump supporters but relative to other Democrats there has been some heavily unwarranted bias in his favor.

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Red_XIV
02/19/24 9:24:23 PM
#171:


MaxEffingBemis posted...
Yeah so when Fascist McHitler is the Republican nominee in 28 we all just need to suck it up and vote for the Democratic nominee Status Quo Johnson who is inexplicably 99 years old
This what you say when Biden has been the most progressive President in any of our lifetimes.

And yes, you do need to suck it up and vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee, because the Democratic nominee is always far better than the Republican nominee.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 9:26:16 PM
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theyre all banned now. You can check in his topic, their quoted posts and usernames should still be able to be seen, although its really horrible. The original poster was named Atralis.

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tripleh213
02/19/24 9:26:19 PM
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LightHawKnight
02/19/24 9:29:49 PM
#176:


SecretBase posted...
The "Biden cult" thing is an iffy subject.

On one hand, a lot of this behavior you see isn't about Biden at all. People acted this way for Hillary too. Basically the idea is that you have to vote for anyone who's not a fascist if the alternative is a fascist like Trump. The urgency is not based around the Democratic candidate, but against the Republican candidate.

But... Let's be real. There were a ton of people who thought Biden was the ONLY candidate who could beat Trump, despite there being ZERO data indicating that this was the case, considering polling indicated a ton of Dems could beat Trump. There were also people responding to polls saying they'd vote Biden, but not for any other Democrat. And the second Biden won a single state in the primary the party leaders practically tripped over themselves to endorse him en masse and anoint him as the party standard bearer, despite there being no such response earlier when Buttigieg and Bernie won states. And every time he's in the news for something stupid he said or did his supporters would dismiss all criticism with the fact that Trump was guilty of worse, even during the fucking primary where he was running against other Democrats who obviously weren't Trump. These people felt a guy pushing 80 who lost two presidential elections prior was our only bet to "restore normalcy" in the United States of America. What the fuck is that if not cultish?

Biden supporters are in no way remotely as insane or delusional as Trump supporters but relative to other Democrats there has been some heavily unwarranted bias in his favor.

Eh, polling is pretty useless really. You cant count on the left to go out to vote en mass like you can with the right and need to court the fence sitters/moderates, of which Biden was great for. Unfortunately our political spectrum is so far right that Biden, who is center right at best is seen as solidly left and any actually reasonable candidate on the left is seen as far left who will lose a lot of "moderate" votes.

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Deej
02/19/24 9:30:09 PM
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Biden cult
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Dark_Arbron
02/19/24 9:32:46 PM
#178:


SecretBase posted...
Biden supporters are in no way remotely as insane or delusional as Trump supporters but relative to other Democrats there has been some heavily unwarranted bias in his favor.

Let me guess, Biden bros and blue caps.

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Red_XIV
02/19/24 9:44:41 PM
#179:


SecretBase posted...
The "Biden cult" thing is an iffy subject.
No, it isn't. It's complete and utter nonsense. And comes entirely from Trump cultists saying "Nuh-uh, you're the ones in a cult!"

SecretBase posted...
But... Let's be real. There were a ton of people who thought Biden was the ONLY candidate who could beat Trump, despite there being ZERO data indicating that this was the case, considering polling indicated a ton of Dems could beat Trump.
What the data showed was that Biden had the best chance against Trump, and nobody wanted to risk somebody else because letting Trump be reelected was too catastrophic.

SecretBase posted...
And the second Biden won a single state in the primary the party leaders practically tripped over themselves to endorse him en masse and anoint him as the party standard bearer, despite there being no such response earlier when Buttigieg and Bernie won states.
And that's just a blatant lie. Buttigieg and Bernie won in a couple of tiny nearly-all-white states that aren't remotely representative of the country as a whole. And when it became clear that Biden was the prohibitive frontrunner, the also-ran candidates were in a rush to endorse him when they dropped out because there's only a very brief window in which an also-ran candidate's endorsement is even worth anything. This kind of thing is how multi-candidate primaries always go.

SecretBase posted...
And every time he's in the news for something stupid he said or did his supporters would dismiss all criticism with the fact that Trump was guilty of worse, even during the fucking primary where he was running against other Democrats who obviously weren't Trump.
When the criticism was overt Republican ratfuckery, that is.

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SecretBase
02/19/24 9:45:56 PM
#180:


LightHawKnight posted...


Eh, polling is pretty useless really. You cant count on the left to go out to vote en mass like you can with the right and need to court the fence sitters/moderates, of which Biden was great for. Unfortunately our political spectrum is so far right that Biden, who is center right at best is seen as solidly left and any actually reasonable candidate on the left is seen as far left who will lose a lot of "moderate" votes.

I understand that argument. But if we dismiss polling then it's basically a free-for-all of opinions. If allowed to dismiss his polling edge against Trump in 2020 I could say Biden was a weak candidate due to his controversial voting record, constant gaffes, declining verbal charisma, softness against the GOP, lack of sync with younger generations, ideologically redundant choice of a running mate, and so on so forth and nobody would be able to checkmate me since the contradicting polls apparently don't matter.

Dark_Arbron posted...


Let me guess, Biden bros and blue caps.

No. I don't use pejorative labels for groups of voters I don't agree with. Unlike certain pathetic campaigns.

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DrizztLink
02/19/24 9:48:15 PM
#181:


SecretBase posted...
No. I don't use pejorative labels for groups of voters I don't agree with. Unlike certain pathetic campaigns.
You're a real hero.

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 9:51:31 PM
#182:


Thanatos_the_Great posted...
When is Biden going to realise that supporting and funding genocide is going to ensure a Trump win?
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--Zero-
02/19/24 9:55:29 PM
#183:


Yeah it'll ensue a Trump win in the minds of small minded dipshits.

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 9:58:00 PM
#184:


--Zero- posted...
Yeah it'll ensue a Trump win in the minds of small minded dipshits.

Wut?
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02/19/24 9:59:54 PM
#185:


ButteryMales posted...
Wut?

I can't do words lol

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LightHawKnight
02/19/24 10:00:41 PM
#186:


SecretBase posted...
I understand that argument. But if we dismiss polling then it's basically a free-for-all of opinions. If allowed to dismiss his polling edge against Trump in 2020 I could say Biden was a weak candidate due to his controversial voting record, constant gaffes, declining verbal charisma, softness against the GOP, lack of sync with younger generations, ideologically redundant choice of a running mate, and so on so forth and nobody would be able to checkmate me since the contradicting polls apparently don't matter.

The softness against the GOP is what gets the "moderate" votes.

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 10:02:37 PM
#187:


--Zero- posted...
I can't do words
That's apparent. It's a rephrase of your topic title so you're insulting yourself, Thanatos, and me.
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02/19/24 10:04:22 PM
#188:


ButteryMales posted...
That's apparent. It's a rephrase of your topic title so you're insulting yourself, Thanatos, and me.

Point still stands that people are out of their minds not to vote for Biden because they don't understand politics in war and that Trump would be the literal conclusion to not voting for Biden.

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 10:08:22 PM
#189:


--Zero- posted...
Point still stands that people are out of their minds not to vote for Biden because they don't understand politics in war and that Trump would be the literal conclusion to not voting for Biden.
Who's not crazy when the crazy world says genocide is just politics?
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Anteaterking
02/19/24 10:11:54 PM
#190:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
But why is the expectation always on democrats to do everything, and not the actual fascists to stop being fascist?

Why are you spending your energy attacking leftists for criticizing Biden instead of attacking Republicans for not voting for Biden?

Democrats putting in the work to attract their own base is part of what being a political party is. The problem is that some people (Biden included) spend more effort trying to attract 100 people who were going to write in "Ronald Reagan" instead of netting 100 people in "their own base" by being more progressive.


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Voidgolem
02/19/24 10:12:09 PM
#191:


ButteryMales posted...
Who's not crazy when the crazy world says genocide is just politics?

what solution do you propose that has a realistic chance of actually working

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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 10:16:21 PM
#192:


Anteaterking posted...
Why are you spending your energy attacking leftists for criticizing Biden instead of attacking Republicans for not voting for Biden?

Democrats putting in the work to attract their own base is part of what being a political party is. The problem is that some people (Biden included) spend more effort trying to attract 100 people who were going to write in "Ronald Reagan" instead of netting 100 people in "their own base" by being more progressive.
Its not about criticizing Biden, its about the people who are abstaining from voting while proclaiming that theyre leftists. I will absolutely criticize anyone who refuses to vote in this election. I already shit on republicans and anyone whos gonna vote Trump, they dont listen to reason.

People on the left not voting as protest is an entirely different thing. If youre willing to hand over the country to a dictatorship then thats on you.

I also dont believe far left leftists are Bidens base to be quite honest.

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 10:23:34 PM
#193:


Voidgolem posted...
what solution do you propose that has a realistic chance of actually working
Sanction and cut funding to Israel.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I also dont believe far left leftists are Bidens base to be quite honest.
So you don't believe Biden will lose if anti-genocide protestors don't vote for him?
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SecretBase
02/19/24 10:23:38 PM
#194:


Red_XIV posted...
What the data showed was that Biden had the best chance against Trump, and nobody wanted to risk somebody else because letting Trump be reelected was too catastrophic.

For a long period Biden polled the best against Trump, yeah. But once primary voting started and exposed him as a weaker candidate than thought, Bernie actually started polling better than him against Trump.

Yet, despite the numbers flip, did a single political pundit change their calculus of the matter? Hell nah.

Red_XIV posted...
Buttigieg and Bernie won in a couple of tiny nearly-all-white states that aren't remotely representative of the country as a whole.

What? Bernie won Nevada, which has a Democratic party that's only 44% white, with double digit amounts of black, hispanic, and asian people composing the rest.

The state Biden won, South Carolina, has a Dem. party that while 41% white, is 51% black, with only single digit amounts of hispanic and asian people.

Nevada is actually more accurately representative than South Carolina. Cute how party leaders didn't care about diversity of electorate until it favored Biden, though.

Red_XIV posted...
And when it became clear that Biden was the prohibitive frontrunner,

???

Biden was behind Bernie in primary polling, general polling, states won, delegates won, and national favorability when the party coalesced behind him. They basically put their "conventional wisdom" ahead of any real world metric.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 10:25:19 PM
#195:


ButteryMales posted...
Sanction and cut funding to Israel.

So you don't believe Biden will lose if anti-genocide protestors don't vote for him?
Im hoping people have enough common sense to see that Trump would make the problem infinitely worse, on top of making many other things worse. Biden COULD change course eventually, Trump will 100% not.

I dont understand how not voting for Biden helps anything except making you feel good. In reality it just allows Trump to win.

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LightHawKnight
02/19/24 11:00:01 PM
#196:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Im hoping people have enough common sense to see that Trump would make the problem infinitely worse, on top of making many other things worse. Biden COULD change course eventually, Trump will 100% not.

I dont understand how not voting for Biden helps anything except making you feel good. In reality it just allows Trump to win.

Really hope all the dumb people who say they are voting third party or not voting due to the Israel stuff are just Russian bots. People have to know that the orange idiot would actually send US soldiers to assist Israel dont they?

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ButteryMales
02/19/24 11:02:41 PM
#197:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
I'm hoping people have enough common sense to see that Trump would make the problem infinitely worse, on top of making many other things worse. Biden COULD change course eventually, Trump will 100% not.

I dont understand how not voting for Biden helps anything except making you feel good. In reality it just allows Trump to win.
I've lived through 4 years of both of them. I believe you voting for Biden just makes you feel better and doesn't do anything either.
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ssb_yunglink2
02/19/24 11:04:46 PM
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ButteryMales posted...
I've lived through 4 years of both of them. I believe you voting for Biden just makes you feel better and doesn't do anything either.
??? theres no way you just said that.

Do you not know anything about project 2025? Did the literal insurrection attempt not show you anything about the dangers of Trump in power??

What the fuck dude. For real, what the fuck. Good job letting the chud mask slip off, i guess.

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LightHawKnight
02/19/24 11:06:03 PM
#199:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
??? theres no way you just said that.

Do you not know anything about project 2025? Did the literal insurrection attempt not show you anything about the dangers of Trump in power??

What the fuck dude. For real, what the fuck.

People fall for the republican narrative that Biden did nothing. It is really weird how Democrats dont actually try to shout to the world all the good they have done, while being blocked at every single step of the way by republicans.

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SMT_Masochist
02/19/24 11:06:06 PM
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Biden isn't a popular president for good reason. He's fed his lines. Goes on tangents about yesteryear to obfuscate. Gives tax payer money away to people who couldn't pay their bills. Is funding 2 wars behind the shield of protecting democracy (or really the shield of that country's citizens). Is one gentle fall away from being in traction for the rest of his life. What's to like other than there aren't any other options?

Not a fan of him nor Trump. One is a politician that doesn't move the needle and keeps asking for more money. The other is a business man who only cares about himself and his image (read: will reply to anyone on X) to the detriment of his country.

What's option C?


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