Board 8 > Valentine's Day Mafia Topic 7: Love me, love me, say that you love me

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Sultan saying a scum would do what I'm doing is him showing scum

I'd MUCH rather with Sultan being guaranteed scum get Chris coasting off scans off the board

Just trust that Isquen is lock town, FD is lock town, Kirby is lock town and win from that point.

I think it'd be Ulti or Dumey if Chris is town but yeah if we get at least one scum here the game is very winnable

Ok there is no way mzero is town here.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Regarding my date with MZero I generally thought he sounded fine, but wouldn't full clear him based upon anything he said. We discussed the possibility of who might have been a scum/scum pair from day 2 and my bet was on Ulti/Dumey and he settled on Sultan/Chris with a heavy dose of godfather fear on Chris. He might have already mentioned some of this, I need to start reading today still.

That's incredible. When Red asked me who to scan if he somehow ended up being alive, I also told him Ulti/Dumey.

This town is a lot more on the same track of mind than I had thought wow. That being said, I'm finding the town defenses for Sultan incredibly lacking in substance. So my thoughts are pretty much the exact same as MZero there.

MZero posted...

scum is flailing

we have a chance to do something legendary town, don't waste it

Give me the power

Please Kirby

Trust. It's stupid. But it will win.

It is day 3. The closest mylo date is day 6. I am claiming confirmable prosty while already being scanned innocent and mzero is just lolcatting at this point.

I wasn't going to claim it cuz scum now knows probably all of our powers now but yes Chris is prostitute and I was slept with.

Lopen posted...

Sultan saying a scum would do what I'm doing is him showing scum

I'd MUCH rather with Sultan being guaranteed scum get Chris coasting off scans off the board

Just trust that Isquen is lock town, FD is lock town, Kirby is lock town and win from that point.

I think it'd be Ulti or Dumey if Chris is town but yeah if we get at least one scum here the game is very winnable

Lopen I have caught you in 2 games playing exactly this way as scum like come on now dude

That's why I made you claim btw sultan

This is also why I had the thought to pair with people I was sus with day 1

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Lopen I have caught you in 2 games playing exactly this way as scum like come on now dude

Telling people to lynch me so I can take two scum with me? I don't think that's in scum Lopen playbook

SirChris posted...

That's why I made you claim btw sultan

I can prove this

Lopen, you'll have to forgive me for not having utmost confidence with the triple kill even if it involves my #1 scumspect.

The end of Day 2 has not instilled me with much faith given how confident you were in how that day was going to end lol

If anything, we as town players need to dial it back a bit and play it safe. Scum has the disadvantage here even if they can take out both claimed scanners without them giving us any scans back in return. Last thing we want to do is end up killing three townies in one fell swoop.

Because let's be real. This is a battle of attrition, and there's no way scum has any chance of winning it when they've been down one member from Day 1 onward.

SirChris posted...

I hard claim town prosty. Sultan did not move last night. I am provable prosty to anyone who pairs with me

So anyway let's kill lopen now

Just for you know. New page

Lopen posted...

Telling people to lynch me so I can take two scum with me? I don't think that's in scum Lopen playbook

No playing the mob boss aggression and you know you have an out somewhere.

Kirby321 posted...

Because let's be real. This is a battle of attrition, and there's no way scum has any chance of winning it when they've been down one member from Day 1 onward.

I want a death blow

I think Sultan is claimed scum and the only way we lose is if Chris is GF

You all can solve without me if Chris is town. It's not the end of the world

Lopen posted...

I want a death blow

I think Sultan is claimed scum and the only way we lose is if Chris is GF

You all can solve without me if Chris is town. It's not the end of the world

Dude litterally read the fucking topic Chris is prostitute!

SirChris posted...

I am claiming confirmable prosty

Flavor, please?

Also, I'm not sure why you felt the need to claim. Your first roommate was dead, and your second roommate is under heavy suspicion.

Your claim is completely anti-town. You just needed to pair with somebody decently towny on N3 to confirm your prosty role, but you chose to reveal it now under suboptimal conditions. Why?

Linda Cardellini

Kirby321 posted...

You just needed to pair with somebody decently towny on N3 to confirm your prosty role, but you chose to reveal it now under suboptimal conditions. Why?

Heat check

Kirby321 posted...

Flavor, please?

Also, I'm not sure why you felt the need to claim. Your first roommate was dead, and your second roommate is under heavy suspicion.

Your claim is completely anti-town. You just needed to pair with somebody decently towny on N3 to confirm your prosty role, but you chose to reveal it now under suboptimal conditions. Why?

Because I think it's likely both mafia would have moved last night. Sultan is fine.

Also because some guy called me useless yesterday when I was playing my pr role well

Won't name names tho

SirChris posted...

Because I think it's likely both mafia would have moved last night. Sultan is fine.

What is the scumteam comp theoretically

Lopen posted...

What is the scumteam comp theoretically

The dead cop/blocker/person submitting the kill

SirChris posted...

Also because some guy called me useless yesterday when I was playing my pr role well

Won't name names tho

hi. still think this btw

SirChris posted...

Because I think it's likely both mafia would have moved last night. Sultan is fine.

So? We have quite a few days of mislynches to go through. Lea stressed that we're playing this like we need a perfect game and making stupid mistakes as if we don't have days left before MyLo.

Claiming without someone reliable to back up your claim is a faux pas if you're town.

EDumey posted...

hi. still think this btw

Literally a skill issue tbh

EDumey posted...

hi. still think this btw

You know, I could've sworn he was talking about me, but I'm glad my fit of rage wasn't completely unfounded lmao

Kirby321 posted...

So? We have quite a few days of mislynches to go through. Lea stressed that we're playing this like we need a perfect game and making stupid mistakes as if we don't have days left before MyLo.

Claiming without someone reliable to back up your claim is a faux pas if you're town.

Luckily I don't need mafia advice

Kirby321 posted...

You know, I could've sworn he was talking about me, but I'm glad my fit of rage wasn't completely unfounded lmao

No it was. You were completely unacceptable tbh and it is a credit to my medication that I did not snap at you.

Once everyone has checked in (I think all we're missing is JC?), I'm down to just end this day early. Seems there's an overwhelming majority to lynch Sultan today, and it doesn't look like Chris is going to sway anybody else.

But uh... Ulti, if Sultan pairs with you and you don't immediately break up with him, that might be a problem.

I stand corrected. Ulti is willing to sheep Chris.

Getting miss axed beacuse you guys are idots I now know how Ulti feels.

Anyway lopen is being whatever he is today and keeps wanting me to die so I just cut that off at the pass. I sincerely doubt scum wasn't on the move last night so sultan is also likely fine

Sorry your poe is likely silly and broken. I claimed because I go from poe to a night kill which is always nice ev. It also allows people to focus more. I would have gladly kept my role shut forever but since everyone wants to kill sultan and I have information that I think points to him being town I decided to speak up.

The dream is dead

Pair Chris with a claimed vanilla and kill Sultan

MZero posted...

The dream is dead

Pair Chris with a claimed vanilla and kill Sultan

We 100% know Sultan did not send the kill, and if scum has a second power role he is pretty much confirmed.

We should not be killing sultan today.

I don't know if I'm willing to accept "Sultan didn't move" as some confirmed town read.

1. Chris could be scum and lying.
2. Sultan could have just not moved.

Sultan was under plenty of suspicion yesterday and could have know it would be risky for him to submit a night kill. We have no idea what scum roles are, and assuming it's something that has to move is too much setup meta.

The last time we had heavy setup meta was Corrik assuming there could be no cop or miller in the game and look how that panned out.

I don't want to just dismiss Sultan as an option because he potentially didn't move. This is an experimental game. We have no idea what kind of room mechanics scum could have that doesn't involve them moving at all.

Okay so Ulti is denying a Sultan lynch.

But you know what
Chris will resolve himself N3, so okay, maybe I'm fine with that. Sultan and Chris live today, we deal with them tomorrow. Chris obviously isn't going to die when Corrik is still available as a town scanner, so whoever he rooms with is going to prove his prosty claim.

In that case, ##Date: Chris
I don't think it's unreasonable to offer myself to take the role of validating your prosty claim. The only person who even remotely thinks I'm scum is Sultan, but he's not the one who needs to be convinced that you're legit.

EDumey posted...

I don't know if I'm willing to accept "Sultan didn't move" as some confirmed town read.

1. Chris could be scum and lying.
2. Sultan could have just not moved.
Sultan was under plenty of suspicion yesterday and could have know it would be risky for him to submit a night kill. We have no idea what scum roles are, and assuming it's something that has to move is too much setup meta.

The last time we had heavy setup meta was Corrik assuming there could be no cop or miller in the game and look how that panned out.

I don't want to just dismiss Sultan as an option because he potentially didn't move. This is an experimental game. We have no idea what kind of room mechanics scum could have that doesn't involve them moving at all.

I 100% agree with you, Dumey.

However, I think it's valuable for whether the entire game trusts Chris or not. Because until we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chris is legit town barring Godfather Prosty, nobody is going to productively interact with him.

##date: Kirby

sure? Godfather Prosty fear is amusing, but sure lol

Also I just checked that scum can stack night actions with the kill in the rules. So not 100% on Sultan tbf

How does you dating Chris prove he's Prosty? If you're vanilla like you said he just says you didn't get up and we say, "duh we already knew that."

Kirby321 posted...

I 100% agree with you, Dumey.

However, I think it's valuable for whether the entire game trusts Chris or not. Because until we can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chris is legit town barring Godfather Prosty, nobody is going to productively interact with him.

This is a very weird sentence tbh. It's day 3, we are down a scum, I don't really feel like you need a lot of... belief to be like "ok Chris is probably just town"

lol

EDumey posted...

How does you dating Chris prove he's Prosty? If you're vanilla like you said he just says you didn't get up and we say, "duh we already knew that."

Kirby is informed he is slept with.

EDumey posted...

I don't know if I'm willing to accept "Sultan didn't move" as some confirmed town read.

1. Chris could be scum and lying.
2. Sultan could have just not moved.
Sultan was under plenty of suspicion yesterday and could have know it would be risky for him to submit a night kill. We have no idea what scum roles are, and assuming it's something that has to move is too much setup meta.

The last time we had heavy setup meta was Corrik assuming there could be no cop or miller in the game and look how that panned out.

I don't want to just dismiss Sultan as an option because he potentially didn't move. This is an experimental game. We have no idea what kind of room mechanics scum could have that doesn't involve them moving at all.

I know you are attacking me but this mindset is super towny

SirChris posted...

Kirby is informed he is slept with.

Okay my bad. Genuinely didn't remember that was a part of Prosty.

It varies. Some prosties don't confirm.

We don't know if scum has a Ninja or not, either.

Because imo town's scanning power is very strong with just Cop that targets two players at once and back-up Cop, even with factoring Miller into it. I can't imagine scum not having an answer to Prosty when town already has a strong method for getting town-clearing scans or having a higher-than-usual chance to scan scum, albeit in an ambiguous way.

EDumey posted...

How does you dating Chris prove he's Prosty? If you're vanilla like you said he just says you didn't get up and we say, "duh we already knew that."

Thats not how prostitute work.

It's not a tracker.

you get a message you've been slept with

Ulti is being super defensive of Sultan based off nothing

I wish I could explode Ulti and Sultan but obviously that won't work