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Ulti can you give your input on the question I asked about MZero in that post? Would genuinely like your perspective there since I was mostly asking about how MZero and you usually interact in previous games.

I would tell you to look up Smash Mafia where Ulti and I were both town and I grilled him over inconsistencies but his posts are gone from The Site. You can probably see the quotes though.

The difference being in that game I was mostly attacking him for inconsistencies with his role claim and this is more with his reads and dating history

If Chris truly intends to veto Sultan, then I think Chris and Sultan should just date tonight. If by some chance Chris is left alive through the night, it prevents him from pairing again with Sultan tomorrow. If Chris doesn't like that, then it means Sultan is on the table today. Take your veto or shove it.

That will leave FD/JC/Isquen/MZero/Ulti. From the sound of current directions, it sounds like FD would prefer an Ulti lynch here. Would like JC's input on that trio specifically. I think choosing Isquen or MZero here is truly a PoE lynch if JC has come around on Ulti at all.

Chris gave his input earlier that after reading through D1, it should just be Isquen. I tend to lean town on Isquen and think it should be Ulti or MZero. It sounded like Kirby is amenable to both Isquen and Ulti, and to my recollection hasn't shown much interest in an MZero lynch.

We're kind of all over the place. JC reading the above what's your preference?

MZero posted...

I would tell you to look up Smash Mafia where Ulti and I were both town and I grilled him over inconsistencies but his posts are gone from The Site. You can probably see the quotes though.

The difference being in that game I was mostly attacking him for inconsistencies with his role claim and this is more with his reads and dating history

Was that the beetle game? No one can take any bad credit from that one, Ulti truly was on one for that game, lmao. I will try and go look myself, but part of me asking is trying to get people to talk about actual reads instead of just the PoE stuff we've been going on about. Thank you for pointing to a specific game reference though.

There's another game (Console Mafia) where I tunneled Sultan pretty hard... and we were both town >_>

Actually, if memory serves Chris was scum that game and tried to shut down any suspicion on Sultan with little reasoning. I know we're not really entertaining Godfather Prosty atm but if Sultan does end up being town, it's something to keep in mind (unless I'm misremembering)

Chris can read me pretty well. He loves to point at Elden rings as a great example of that. He had me like instantly murdered in that game.

I mean I don't want to date Chris again just beacuse i feel like if and probably when Chris is killed no one believes me on convincing with Chris anyways but that's just me.

I may do something similar to what Mzero just did and extend invites to

I guess.
Chris
Fd
Jc

Cuz i think that is where we are kinda at right?

MZero posted...

There's another game (Console Mafia) where I tunneled Sultan pretty hard... and we were both town >_>

Actually, if memory serves Chris was scum that game and tried to shut down any suspicion on Sultan with little reasoning. I know we're not really entertaining Godfather Prosty atm but if Sultan does end up being town, it's something to keep in mind (unless I'm misremembering)

Was it console? That this happen?

I know video game I died super fast when I was Mario. I dont think Chris was in that game though.

sorry Ive been awol guys, have been going through a trauma decompression from hopefully figuring out some longstanding problems (yay) and mucho medical gaslighting

doing better in many ways but my mind has been preoccupied, will get to this shortly though

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Was it console? That this happen?

I know video game I died super fast when I was Mario. I dont think Chris was in that game though.

That was my Paper Mario game

I'm talking about when you were the Quickdraw and could shoot someone when you got lynched

EDumey posted...

It sounded like Kirby is amenable to both Isquen and Ulti, and to my recollection hasn't shown much interest in an MZero lynch.

Just so it's clear where my lynch priority is at, from most lynchable to least:

Ulti
Sultan
MZero
Isquen
FD
JC
Dumey
Chris

And honestly? The only thing I feel confident about is that Dumey and Chris are town.

Whoever is scum is incredibly hard to read at this stage of the game.

Ulti if me not responding to you last not was scummy, then why are you responding to everything but my direct question to you?

good morning

UltimaterializerX posted...

What question, do I think MZero is town? Ive made that obvious for awhile now.

I guess thats the best I'm going to get, lol. I was asking specifically if you thought he was going after you in a genuine way, or a "player always tunnels Ulti" kind of way. But I will take your response as an answer that you think MZero is genuine.

Good morning Chris

anyway who are we killing, I've been kind of disengaged today and I apologize. Just low energy and multitasking

I'm feeling better about MZero compared to Isquen after today, so Isquen/Ulti/Sultan is still my preferred final 3. JC/MZero, Kirby/Chris, FD/Dumey would be my preferred pairings since I feel like that blends the early-pairers and late-pairers from the last few days the best. If that's not possible because of Chris, then I'd like to see MZero/Ulti/Isquen or Kirby/Ulti/Isquen. I'd like to date Chris, FD, or MZero since I haven't paired with them yet and they weren't in the EoD D1 chaos, a group with whom I haven't paired with outside of Corrik.

Chaeix posted...

MZero/Ulti/Isquen or Kirby/Ulti/Isquen

Think I'd like to see the 2nd more tbh

But it does sounded like you take Mzero and Dumey takes Kirby so really who wants isquen or Ulti right?

SirChris posted...

anyway who are we killing, I've been kind of disengaged today and I apologize. Just low energy and multitasking

Chris, if you're going to continue to veto Sultan, then send a date to him. Otherwise we need to consider him on the table since most people in town list him as a top suspect.

Ulti undated Isquen and listed Isquen and Dumey as his currently theoried scum team. So temporarily at least it seems like those options are back on the table. Need to start setting up dates so we don't leave it to last minute rush.

Actually wait we solved our plan.

Kirby/Dumey
Jc/Mzero

Leaving Chris and FD to choose
From

Me isquen ulti

JC as long as you're on for the deadline, you can just sit on MZero's date request for the moment. He sent one to you, but no need to lock yourself in quite yet I think. That will leave FD with the rest. If we really want Kirby there instead of FD, the I can date FD instead of Kirby. I guess it just depends if you want to limit Kirby from dating someone in that pool for tomorrow?

I've been busy with work, but I see not much has changed.

As indicated previously I'd prefer not to pull the trigger on one of the PoE dates, but it's fine if that's what needs to happen.

Okay well I guess Chris decided I'm dating him so anyone object to me just taking it?

You know I object to it personally, but go ahead and do it. I won't hold this one against you.

##Date:Chris

okay Dumey
I still think you're taking me.early game to far and not accounting for my past 2 days play and read wise but I get it.
Unless you're scum then I 100% get it lol

Accepting the date also should not hold up the day

Do we all have a consensus on who we want to lynch today?

I feel like it will be far more effective to hone in on a single person and deny them any dates rather than to let three people in a pool decide who dates who.

My vote is on Ulti.

And if we all agree on Ulti, I'd rather lock in our dates now since, once again, I won't be around for EoD x_x

I'd like to extend a date to Isquen, but I don't know how receptive of that he'll be.

oh yeah i missed the 1pm time but breakups must be mutual as of an hour ago

votals coming shortly

Just do it if he doesn't accept your date idk man.

Idk who he's exspecting to offer him really?

Can I abstain from voting and let your guys choose? I think I'm maybe the only one vocally expressing some hesitance on Ulti, but I've also said that I lean town on Isquen.

Ulti is my choice between the two, but I'd like other people to actually read Chris and Kirby's D1 reread and opinion on Isquen before just following the train. The more people we get to actually state a preference one way or the other, the more info we have to analyze post flip.

through T11P334

Paired
Chris and Sultan

Exes
Isquen and Ulti

Breakup Requests

Open Offers
JC: Chris
Dumey: Kirby
MZero: Chris, FD, JC, Dumey, Kirby

Unpaired
MZero
JC
Isquen
FD
Ulti
Dumey
Kirby

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Just do it if he doesn't accept your date idk man.

Idk who he's exspecting to offer him really?

I think Kirby is hesitant about offering a date to Isquen in case town decides to lynch him instead of Ulti. That's why Kirby is calling for a vote.

I think if it's all the same I'd prefer to date JC tonight. He's the person I'm least sure of from Group 2 and I think it makes the most sense. Then Kirby and Dumey get to decide the remaining two dating decisions.

EDumey posted...

I think Kirby is hesitant about offering a date to Isquen in case town decides to lynch him instead of Ulti. That's why Kirby is calling for a vote.

Thats fair.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

I think if it's all the same I'd prefer to date JC tonight. He's the person I'm least sure of from Group 2 and I think it makes the most sense. Then Kirby and Dumey get to decide the remaining two dating decisions.

Your hesitancy at being involved kind of makes me want to push you to be the one that does it more, not gonna lie.

I'm not sure why "people will suspect me of having saved someone" is such a concern to you when the plan is to vote by committee anyways.

Neither Kirby or I want to be the ones who "decide the remaining two dating decisions." We want town to decide.

Good news, I think you're both town!

But if the consensus is that I should date someone in the poe then I will oblige.

I agree with Dumey. I don't understand why you keep avoiding dating anyone in Group 1, FD.

Nonetheless, this really should be a town decision, not an individual one. In fact, let's opt for a traditional method.

##Vote: Ulti

Unofficial Votals
[1] Ulti - Kirby

Lol. Sorry if I'm being difficult for no reason about this. I have a genuine reason to not be in the final three with Isquen, because he's made it clear he wants nothing to do with me. And I'm not sure how he'll react to this entire plan to begin with until he checks in.

Isquen if you're keeping up with the topic, you should probably extend a date to Kirby and/or FD if you want a chance at living.

Kirby321 posted...

I agree with Dumey. I don't understand why you keep avoiding dating anyone in Group 1, FD.

Nonetheless, this really should be a town decision, not an individual one. In fact, let's opt for a traditional method.

##Vote: Ulti

Unofficial Votals
[1] Ulti - Kirby

It seems like all three of you are a bit more of Dumey and FD

And I only day this beacuse i saw you mention dating isquen and you had a date invite out to Ulti earlier in the day idk why them 2 are being weird about it.

Sultan I cannot understand what you just posted.

I mean, I think at least this first phase of The Plan makes sense, and I'm willing to follow through on it. I just want us all to agree on one person out of the four to lynch, because otherwise, it'll just be a clusterfuck of people doing whatever and then somehow we end up lynching Chris

Kirby321 posted...

I mean, I think at least this first phase of The Plan makes sense, and I'm willing to follow through on it. I just want us all to agree on one person out of the four to lynch, because otherwise, it'll just be a clusterfuck of people doing whatever and then somehow we end up lynching Chris

At least that specific hypothetical is currently off the table!

I think the only thing that surprises us now is if Isquen decides he doesn't want to play ball with any of us. I think there's ways to play around that, but not much point speculating until he actually shows up I think.

In that situation wouldn't Ulti just live and isquen dies by default?

EDumey posted...

Sultan I cannot understand what you just posted.

It seems like all three of you are dancing and not want to invite to Mzero Isquen are Ulti a bit.

More so you and FD.