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catesdb 03/08/24 10:18:30 PM #1: |
because the review zone threads should not be required to be tracked permanently
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UshiromiyaEva 03/09/24 1:10:43 AM #2: |
Finished what I suppose I would call "Chapter 1". The top half of the chapter 1 map is still untouched battlewise though. Going to finish Rebirth first and come back to clean up and continue. It's not so daunting when you realize a bunch of those purple fights are like 10-20 in-game seconds long.
It's pretty easy to just book it through enemy territory on the top half of the chapter 1 map to collect all the resources. I could have gotten Ochiys ages ago by spending like 2 more Divine Shards, but I wanted to save for that Carnelian Pendant so bad. Finally got her though.....of course now I've collected 4 Lapis and 3 Carnelian Pendants through various means. Since I've managed to gain like 5 units over the course of 2 battles, guess it's time for a full squad and gear refresh. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 03/09/24 2:03:44 AM #3: |
more or less around the same point i suppose, i'd skipped a few things like the swamp before tacking the big objective so i'm getting on them now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catesdb 03/09/24 7:00:32 AM #4: |
I think I got to the same spot? level 8 MSQ
I need to just start gluing people together based on rapport conversations and making it work, rather than constantly fiddling with unit composition but maybe thats the fun --- Pronouns - she/her FFXIV - Ultros [Primal] - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/39263879/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/09/24 7:56:46 AM #5: |
I would not worry about grinding rapport in battle. Some of those combos are not great, but mainly because you get absurdly more rapport points from meals at taverns than you do from fighting in the same squad.
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catesdb 03/09/24 10:44:51 AM #6: |
Also I dont see how all the reviews can be so down on the plot when
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UshiromiyaEva 03/09/24 12:16:14 PM #7: |
I feel like someone mentioned this before but I didn't take it in, but you get 2k gold from those test battle NPCs and there are tons of them. You have to be able to beat them though.
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Zigzagoon 03/09/24 12:34:09 PM #8: |
I decided to sequence break the game and cheese past the guards at the top of the mainland so I could recruit animal people.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/09/24 12:39:45 PM #9: |
I'm actually really happy about the ability to run through enemy territory and not have to do non story missions in sequence. There's a cool cavalry women at the top middle with a level....12 quest I think? There are a good half dozen side battle on either side of her, but you can just skip them all (I'm still gonna do them after of course).
It'd be different if actual story progress could be fucked with, but they do a good job of putting field enemies that make that impossible to run through, if not just literally blocking your path in some cases. As it stands, it means that in most cases you can do character unlock content whenever you're strong enough regardless of where you have progressed. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zigzagoon 03/09/24 3:07:43 PM #10: |
Alright, I got the character I wanted, now I can go back to the main quest and beat up everyone with my strong boi :)
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CoolCly 03/09/24 3:59:28 PM #11: |
So what are some good unit formations?
The basic mindset is generally to have somebody who can soak up damage (Hoplites, Gladiators, Thieves) in the front row and have mostly everyone else in the back. Lex and Alain start in the front row but I'm not so sure they do the trick. But beyond that, I'm not sure I've seen any combos in particular that pop off. Classes have specialties like Soldier can pierce to units in the back, Hunters own flying units and thieves, etc, so that's good for countering, but I dont know what would be good inherent team ups. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catesdb 03/09/24 4:09:58 PM #12: |
alain definitely functions as a solo frontliner, maybe he needs josef's shield for it to work but the dude has a ton of self-healing
i feel like most of the important team-ups are defensive? like travis and flyers want some solution to arrows, so they get lex but yeah agree, i'm not finding combos that pop off necessarily either, it's been more "can this group solve this problem" --- Pronouns - she/her FFXIV - Ultros [Primal] - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/39263879/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 03/09/24 4:31:25 PM #13: |
Hmmm
Gryphon + Thief + Lex does make sense. The problem with flyers and Lex though is who is the leader? Lex gives ranged assist cover but the flyer wants to be leader to go fast I stuck Travis with Alain's group because from the tutorial example and have left them there. It seems kinda nice because Travis only dodges perfectly for as long as he has PP, and Alain will block one shot and then heal himself so helps stretch out Travis's dodges. Gave him the silken scarf to improve his dodge even more so he's unlikely to ever take damage --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catesdb 03/09/24 5:29:28 PM #14: |
picking leader just depends on what you need on that map, I think
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UF8 03/10/24 12:35:33 AM #15: |
made it to c rank now i guess and i'm glad i got all the squads up to 4 units each by now because oh god how else will i have room for biggest issue i'm realising is that i've JUST reached the point where i actually have too many units to fit in any of the squads (even with a full 10 squads at 4 characters each) not sure if i'm gonna just boot all five of the generic recruits i got or just sideline everyone now also i only just realised the dlc came with some pretty fun heraldry images. i think it's neat that every unit has an emblem representing the faction they came from, but i couldn't resist replacing all of them with this now ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 03/10/24 2:09:49 AM #16: |
CoolCly posted... Gryphon + Thief + Lex does make sense. The problem with flyers and Lex though is who is the leader? Lex gives ranged assist cover but the flyer wants to be leader to go fastincidentally i've just had travis lex but with clive+adel instead which is admittedly also been very awkward for "who leader". still it's kind of been my best unit (maybe at least partially because i threw stat boosts at travis and just let them oneshot half the maps) besides josef/hodrick/ my alain group was just alain lead and yahna/chloe/selvie support for a while which was obviously pretty reliable for securing wins though not terribly efficient with his mid damage, now i've just put him in a unit with misc people i'm trying to level lol and passed the others off to better team comps. he's not even in my first squad any more, it's the 8th now lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zigzagoon 03/10/24 1:31:33 PM #17: |
Is there ever any reason NOT to just take everyone into your army?
I mean, for moral reasons I suppose some people you shouldn't forgive but like... more options for your army is never going to be a bad thing lol --- ~Silver_Ermine~ http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r5hhXQbJ1rbct63o1_500.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoolCly 03/10/24 7:02:40 PM #18: |
I think those two moral decisions fairly early on where
Oh god I gave Travis the venom dagger which gives him new AP skill Poison Slash. It poisons the enemy which does a lot of damage which is sick, but I didn't realize how crucial Passive Steal was - he steals PP from enemies preventing them from doing stuff with it, but more importantly gives him more PP to evade with. His ability to survive goes down a ton without this. --- The batman villians all seem to be one big joke that batman refuses to laugh at - SantaRPG ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 03/11/24 5:26:34 PM #19: |
in the middle of the elf area now. i've been finally retooling everyone and i'm becoming very wary of the many skill-embedded accessories for similar reasons to above. i mean they're good but, yeah it's a problem. getting more ap+pp for everyone is kind of my goal now that i've mostly evo'd everyone. after that... the wall of 4 to 5 unit upgrades awaits and looks daunting... Zigzagoon posted... I mean, for moral reasons I suppose some people you shouldn't forgive but like... more options for your army is never going to be a bad thing lolthere technically is one valid reason actually. it's generally pretty inconvenient to get that item that lets you customise the stat spreads for characters so you're just stuck with the ones the characters have by default which aren't always optimal. just getting a custom guy in the respective class from a fort can arguably be better gameplay-wise ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/11/24 5:32:01 PM #20: |
Late game you'll be able to buy the respec item for 30 Honors infinitely. That's deep in, though.
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UF8 03/12/24 6:35:50 AM #21: |
have made zero story progress since yesterday but i decided to focus on clearing the colosseum to get that one character somehow pulled it off with a team of and now i just have a whole squad of people at level 30 and a newly unlocked level 40 character to complement all my barely level 20 squads lol, guess i have an excuse to retire them so i can actually fit some of the elves in anyway i guess here's finally where i try doing the rest of the plot so i'm actually ready to move onto the other games i wanted to play this month lol edit: ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 03/12/24 9:39:23 AM #22: |
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CoolCly 03/12/24 9:03:12 PM #23: |
The game keeps giving me characters I want to use BUT I DONT HAVE SPACE TO USE THEM
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mnk 03/13/24 9:29:32 PM #24: |
I didn't actually get around to starting until yesterday, oops. I just finished mapping out the Cornia region, and have only done the two Lv. 4 missions (for Bruno and Sharon recruits), but all my exploring got me enough shards to recruit Ochlys too (and I found the... shaman?). I'm still within the time frame allowed from the demo, so it's funny I could've done all this days ago.
I'm slowly figuring out my squads and tactics. Getting accessories for more PP and AP has helped make more characters and strategies click. Depending on the enemy formation, all four of my units can murder now. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/13/24 9:52:53 PM #25: |
I am free from the shackles of Rebirth.
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UF8 03/13/24 9:58:44 PM #26: |
fun fact i only recently found out about, the game's got a chrono trigger esque structure where you can get different endings depending on how much story progression you have before you beat it which i think is neat (though conversely it means there is a true ending and the rest are ungood) still i really want to see people speedrunning min progression, but for now all youtube has is those bad AI voiced videos from "experts" that i desperately want to remove from my recommendations ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/14/24 3:19:38 AM #27: |
I really wanted to save 200 Honors for a 5 man crew, but in the last 3 battles I've gained 6 units, so time to dump the 70 Honors to unlock my 6th squad and get it to a 4 man.
Even then I've already got a stack of benched characters, they don't let up here! --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 03/14/24 4:30:32 AM #28: |
incidentally, something worth mentioning regarding crew limits i found out if you pick the option to NOT recruit at least one of the characters ( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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catesdb 03/14/24 8:19:19 AM #29: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
I really wanted to save 200 Honors for a 5 man crewyou can't do this until renown A anyway. i'm not even at B but i assume i'm dumping a bunch of honors into promotions when i get there --- Pronouns - she/her FFXIV - Ultros [Primal] - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/39263879/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/14/24 10:49:39 AM #30: |
Immediately got into a battle where I recruited 3 new units lol.
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Zigzagoon 03/14/24 1:40:28 PM #31: |
Is there a reason that Werewolves and Paladins are banned in online coliseum? I haven't dabbled in Paladins, but from what I've been reading, most people consider werewolves not that great? It can't be due to the stronger at night stuff because the other animal classes aren't banned so ???????????
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HanOfTheNekos 03/14/24 3:30:03 PM #32: |
Is this a good game?
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UshiromiyaEva 03/14/24 3:53:31 PM #33: |
It's an incredible game.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/14/24 4:21:01 PM #34: |
Ohhh OK, I don't have it unlocked yet but promotions seem to be a completely separate thing from your level then, right? The reason this balance is off for some characters is that even though they're level 8 or 9, they're a promoted unit. So once promotions unlock I can do them whenever for that Honor cost and the timing does not matter at all?
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mnk 03/14/24 5:27:14 PM #35: |
Based on Ochlys leveling up slower despite starting at level 5, I imagine promoting early will make it harder for those characters to level up.
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TomNook7 03/14/24 7:29:02 PM #36: |
this game is so addicting holy shit
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UshiromiyaEva 03/14/24 10:28:10 PM #37: |
Sooooo close to Rank B and promotions.
Cleared out the entirety of the initial center landmass (that you can access, since endgame seems to be in the middle). Currently making my way through the desert. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 03/14/24 10:44:29 PM #38: |
Funny how just building a bridge
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 12:50:33 AM #39: |
Berengaria is such a fucking carry. I cannot believe how powerful this woman is.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 2:41:00 AM #40: |
Unlocked promotion, did Alain immediately of course and WHOOOO BOOOOY
All of my units I'm using have hit 15 and many just learned a new ability, so I unequipped every item and tactic, did a bunch of promoting, and dismantled every squad. Going to do a full refresh on everything tomorrow. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zigzagoon 03/15/24 4:00:40 AM #41: |
After Rebirth this is definitely a step down for me, but I'm still plugging away at this. My track record for finishing games I'm not super into is awful but I'll definitely try to force myself through it.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 12:34:59 PM #42: |
Did a respec on Alain from Double All-Rounder to Defensive Guardian. Seems what his kit is made for and his skill and growth rates definitely reflect it.
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Zigzagoon 03/15/24 1:11:51 PM #43: |
I'm having a hard time taking anything seriously when every sentence either has some medieval person's name or landmark. Some of these names in particular sound especially ridiculous lol.
Maybe it's just me, but it always just sounds weird when you have regular regular regular dialog and then weird ass sounding name/city thrown in each sentence. I know that's par for the course for these types of games, like Fire Emblem, but it feels particularly bad / off? in this game. --- ~Silver_Ermine~ http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r5hhXQbJ1rbct63o1_500.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnk 03/15/24 1:14:23 PM #44: |
Apparently I'm a weirdo for keeping Alain in the back.
My five units have Josef, Travis, Hodrick, Bruno, and Ochlys as the defensive leads. I'm not sure Ochlys is supposed to go in the front, but after giving her an Evasion +20 accessory, she's proven to be a good evasion tank so far. I have Alain in Travis' unit, and it's funny that he'll still jump in front and protect him with Luminous Cover when he doesn't need it (though it keeps his Evade active longer, so probably still worth it). Bruno has a +1 SP accessory so he can self-heal twice (and I have it to trigger at HP <75%), plus Sharon's in that unit too. It works. Playing on Tactical, and I have not had any real struggles yet. Most of my problems have come from surprise enemy Valor skills. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zigzagoon 03/15/24 1:17:52 PM #45: |
I usually keep Alain in the back as well. 90% of the time before each battle starts, I'll swap him between front and back row and usually the damage will be higher if he's in the back row. I know it's all based on RNG for each fight, but it's been pretty consistent that I'll get more damage out of him being in the back row.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 1:30:19 PM #46: |
Alain in the back is good, I don't think that's weird at all. I mean he works better in the front when he doesn't have all his shield skills yet just for raw tanking, sure, but once you get more skills and especially more active and passive points after promoting, he's going to be hopping around defending anyways. He doesn't get a noteable offensive skill until level 30 besides Cav Slayer, and even that's a weak AoE attack just means to give him more PP.
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 2:41:09 PM #47: |
Hmm, am I missing something where it tells you when certain equipment is locked to specific characters or classes?
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TomNook7 03/15/24 2:43:45 PM #48: |
imagine being able to take ff7 rebirths story seriously, but unicorns is too weird
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catesdb 03/15/24 2:58:55 PM #49: |
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Hmm, am I missing something where it tells you when certain equipment is locked to specific characters or classes?yeah, when you're actually trying to equip something, there's a button you can press (X on switch) to see "equippable classes" --- Pronouns - she/her FFXIV - Ultros [Primal] - https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/39263879/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UshiromiyaEva 03/15/24 3:01:34 PM #50: |
Oh, I know, but I mean in the actual description.
I do wonder if the reason they even show up (thinking of staves here mainly) is because they can equip more types after promoting? Haven't promoted any magic users yet. It's funny to me that all these staves are locked, but bows seem to be universal even though one class uses a regular bow and the other uses a crossbow. --- https://i.ibb.co/Twbb1b6/20240223-211737.jpg https://youtu.be/qj9p6IFSlnk?si=cZ5L4OPM0TjVjwCD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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