Poll of the Day > DToast had a bit of a melty today.

(+) Yeah! (+)

I hope they get well soon.

Melty?

sucks to be the fall guy, but hey thats what they are paying you for, since its def not to actually improve the site lmao

he knew what he signed up for

Whomst?

allens replacement

Admin: We're gunna make a controversial and widely unpopular change to the site

CM: That would be very unwise

Admin: And you'll be the one to read all the complaints!

CM: *dies*

Solid_Sonic posted...

Melty?

Ya, from Subway.

What did he say

LeoLions posted...

Ya, from Subway.

Lub it.

Melty, you say?

Timmy dude is certainly doing some damage control attempts.

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

go to bed

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

<3

damn wish i had a cheese melty right about now

josh posted...

damn wish i had a cheese melty right about now

It really hits the spot with some tomato soup.

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

sorry you got screwed over in an unwinnable situation over an obviously bad choice that was made by terrible management

can i be a mod

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

for what it's worth i don't blame you for any of this

unless it turns out you did play a role in this in which case keep that to yourself and we're good beany boys

Nade_Duck posted...

sorry you got screwed over in an unwinnable situation over an obviously bad choice that was made by terrible management

You're giving him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't thoroughly enjoy taking a sledgehammer to Gamefaqs.

Holy crap, a DToast post!
Dont tell me he is a regular here.

McSame_as_Bush posted...

You're giving him the benefit of the doubt that he doesn't thoroughly enjoy taking a sledgehammer to Gamefaqs.

i think every user would enjoy doing that, your point?

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

Never responded to my questions. If you go back and look.

Not sure what you asked but a lot of the posts in that topic were just flustered whining and don't really warrant a response.

I'm still waiting for a definition of what politics are because UTA came out and said things like black lives matter, and trans rights are human rights are apolitical statements. I believe they also mentioned facts as being apolitical. So would it be political if I said isreal killed 11 people when they launched a military strike against a Gaza refugee camp that hit the camps playground. Would it be political to say the attack by Hamas on October 7th killed more than 1,100 people? Is it political to talk about Trump's trial? Or would it only be political to add opinion with the fact?

Colonel_Lingus posted...

Not sure what you asked but a lot of the posts in that topic were just flustered whining and don't really warrant a response.

I was asking how they will track the success of this change. What measures do they take to define it. If the trend is negative, will they reassess? I work with data many times and look at these things. I didn't care for the decision itself. Canada is not brought up much in talking circles.

I can almost guarantee "tracking success" will just be a matter of "are we making more money now?". Fandom doesn't have any particular reason to assess any finer metrics like user contentment, moderator workload, or our sense of community, they just see that GameFAQs isn't making much money, made some guesses as to what might be limiting its potential, and are trying a change that they hope will get more users in to increase ad revenue.

Of course, the actual reason GameFAQs is struggling is that game-specific wikis and video walkthroughs have rendered comprehensive text guides mostly obsolete. That left the boards as being the primary value, particularly being a single location with boards for thousands of different games (as distinct from so many forum sites in the early 2000's dedicated to just one game or series), but decades of failing to keep up with advances in forum design caused an lot of people to go elsewhere, particularly to Reddit, so the site stopped being a top destination for people looking to discuss games. Toss in that GameFAQs really doesn't do much in the SEO department, and you're left with a site that mostly only has value for looking up guides for games that are too old/obscure to have wikis or a presence on Reddit, plus the handful of holdouts that stuck with the old forum design because they liked/like it better than alternatives. I don't think there's really much potential to draw new traffic.

Regarding gamefaqs and SEO, when I search for a game I almost never see a gamefaqs link in the search results. How are they even getting new users?

I occasionally see GameFAQs links show up, but they're pretty much always after Reddit and at least one SEO clickbait site like Game Rant or Game8, and there's usually a wiki link or two in there as well if it's a game that's at all popular. Sometimes it's also after video results. This is also only for less popular games. "Xenoblade 3 builds" gives a GameFAQs board link (albeit one from December 2022, making it clearly less recent than other options) as the third result, but "Elden Ring builds" doesn't give a GameFAQs link until the 46th result, putting it below the video results section, "people also ask," related searches, and even the image results section. Nobody's clicking on that.

Half the time, it's other Fandom sites that show up before GameFAQs, so I don't even know that they'd want to fix that.

DToast posted...

Eh. Just responded to users, it's apart of the job.

You're a cool guy Toast.

Toonstrack posted...

You're a cool guy Toast.

They posted in my topic so they like me the most! ;^)

Wait, what happened? Where was this?

what on earth is everybody talking about

Did DToast get burnt?

ConfusedTorchic posted...

he knew what he signed up for

He most definitely didnt, and I dont think he had a choice. Its insane to me that so many users are attacking him just for doing his job. Its the equivalent of screaming at the Starbucks cashier.

Provide feedback, not cowardly insults, and incoherent ranting

Rasmoh posted...

Did DToast get burnt?

Did he fall butter side down?

STEROLIZER posted...

Provide feedback, not cowardly insults, and incoherent ranting

There's plenty of feedback. He's outright said they're ignoring it.

adjl posted...

There's plenty of feedback. He's outright said they're ignoring it.

How much are the ignoring?

The part where there's feedback. The official statement from the community manager is (paraphrased) "We're getting a lot of people saying that they're unhappy with the changes, which is exactly what we expected, but we're going to make absolutely no changes to our plans." There never was any intention of adjusting the plan based on feedback.

adjl posted...

There's plenty of feedback. He's outright said they're ignoring it.

Hes an employee. Not the owner. He doesnt have authority to make sporadic changes on a dime or even respond and comment to some things.

Hes taking notes, and working in the backend. The fact that hes even interacting at all is proof of this.

Disgruntled GameFaqs users ranting and raving isnt going to suddenly bless DToast with a promotion so that he can make the series of executive decisions. All its going to do is make him apathetic in his duties.

This is common sense. I dont understand why none of you understand this. Its like screaming at the Starbucks Barista, and going so far as to key that college kids car because pumpkin spice lattes were taken off the menu.

STEROLIZER posted...

Hes an employee. Not the owner. He doesnt have authority to make sporadic changes on a dime or even respond and comment to some things.

someone who had the power to change things should have made the feedback topic. the feedback topic is useless if the feedback goes to someone who can't enact change

it also shows that he knew exactly what he was getting into when he made the topic

i can't even be mad at him as an individual because of how obviously corporate this whole shit is

i would absolutely not risk my job by objecting if my boss told me to shut down some political stuff on a gaming website. especially if it was some place i didn't really care about to begin with, and some reddit weirdos are sending me death threats over it!

the real asshole in this scenario is gonna go unnamed and unpunished because it's Good For The Company

fuck fandom

agesboy posted...

someone who had the power to change things should have made the feedback topic. the feedback topic is useless if the feedback goes to someone who can't enact change

No it isnt. This is how all corporations work.

DToast job is to take notes, monitor stats, make reports, present findings, then make suggestions to his managers on steps to take to make something profitable and then perhaps he gets allocated the resources to do so.

But hes not the decision maker. You cant expect the executives of a multi-million dollar organization to be chatting with CEmenits unrealistic

agesboy posted...

i can't even be mad at him as an individual because of how obviously corporate this whole shit is

i would absolutely not risk my job by objecting if my boss told me to shut down some political stuff on a gaming website. especially if it was some place i didn't really care about to begin with, and some reddit weirdos are sending me death threats over it!

the real asshole in this scenario is gonna go unnamed and unpunished because it's Good For The Company

Thats actually a much more realistic take on the situation

don't get me wrong, my ire has been aimed at fandom this entire time. dtoast, dude, you do you (unless you have an actual voice in the company, in which case pls do more we really like this dumb place)

i don't think anyone in here specifically blames toast, is the thing.

we all know he is the fall guy, but we can also acknowledge that he knows that, too.

There was one post in one of the feedback topics where he outright said "insult me if you want, but don't insult Fandom," and that just made me really sad. Nobody gets paid enough for that degree of corporate simping.

STEROLIZER posted...

Hes an employee. Not the owner. He doesnt have authority to make sporadic changes on a dime or even respond and comment to some things.

Hes taking notes, and working in the backend. The fact that hes even interacting at all is proof of this.

Disgruntled GameFaqs users ranting and raving isnt going to suddenly bless DToast with a promotion so that he can make the series of executive decisions. All its going to do is make him apathetic in his duties.

This is common sense. I dont understand why none of you understand this. Its like screaming at the Starbucks Barista, and going so far as to key that college kids car because pumpkin spice lattes were taken off the menu.

That's nice, but it still doesn't change that there's plenty of feedback, so your premise that there's nothing but insults or whatever is outright false. He's just also told everyone that their feedback is worthless, so there's really no room to suggest that people can be more constructive.

adjl posted...

There was one post in one of the feedback topics where he outright said "insult me if you want, but don't insult Fandom," and that just made me really sad.

especially since that's explicitly against the rules! you can say fuck a company, you can't say fuck a user