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SocialistGamer 04/22/24 10:04:33 PM #1: |
aliens could've mind controlled the Chinese into setting off the nukes?
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ssjevot 04/22/24 10:07:09 PM #2: |
I mean the new lore the show seems to be setting is that VaultTec caused the war.
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ScazarMeltex 04/22/24 10:10:25 PM #3: |
ssjevot posted...
I mean the new lore the show seems to be setting is that VaultTec caused the war.I always kind of got that vibe anyway honestly. Interesting to see them leaning into it more. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DoesntMatter 04/22/24 10:12:35 PM #4: |
ssjevot posted...
I mean the new lore the show seems to be setting is that VaultTec caused the war.well, to be fair, it establishes that they have a contingency plan to kickstart the war if they have to, but it hasn't confirmed yet whether or not they actually enacted that plan --- It don't matter. None of this matters. he/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuerrillaSoldier 04/22/24 10:13:15 PM #5: |
the aliens could've mind controlled vaulttec
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ssjevot 04/22/24 10:15:56 PM #6: |
Aliens have consistently been in all the games, so I do hope the show includes them in some fashion. I personally don't like the corporate conspiracy angle but if they go with it that's fine too. I feel it downplays the war never changes angle (though you could connect it with the Spanish American War and the attempt to sell more newspapers).
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BucketCat 04/22/24 10:20:49 PM #7: |
DoesntMatter posted...
well, to be fair, it establishes that they have a contingency plan to kickstart the war if they have to, but it hasn't confirmed yet whether or not they actually enacted that planI think there's a storyline in 3's DLC that takes you back in time and --- ? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 04/22/24 10:25:37 PM #8: |
BucketCat posted...
I think there's a storyline in 3's DLC that takes you back in time and In established lore China fired the first nuke and it happens after Alaska is retaken and the US has invaded mainland China. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Freddie_Mercury 04/22/24 10:29:04 PM #9: |
no that's dumb
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JoeDangIt 04/22/24 10:32:25 PM #10: |
The Zetans don't seem competent enough to do that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/22/24 10:33:11 PM #11: |
I watched the show before I started Fallout 4, but early in FO4 you can find a recording that says the nukes were a global event. so either
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NoxObscuras 04/22/24 10:33:47 PM #12: |
DoesntMatter posted...
well, to be fair, it establishes that they have a contingency plan to kickstart the war if they have to, but it hasn't confirmed yet whether or not they actually enacted that planYeah, it just established that they had planned to drop a nuke if no one else did. The only thing that the show confirmed was that --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Senta 04/22/24 10:34:05 PM #13: |
BucketCat posted...
I think there's a storyline in 3's DLC that takes you back in time and That whole thing is --- http://tinyurl.com/b95dwtg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 04/23/24 3:22:27 AM #14: |
NoxObscuras posted...
Yeah, it just established that they had planned to drop a nuke if no one else did. The only thing that the show confirmed was thatI don't know that they did tbh. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 04/23/24 5:50:54 AM #15: |
thronedfire2 posted...
I watched the show before I started Fallout 4, but early in FO4 you can find a recording that says the nukes were a global event. so eitherhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c29b4d2b.jpg --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 04/23/24 7:59:21 AM #16: |
The main thing established with Bethesda's time with Fallout 4 is that a few key figures at Vault-Tec and the military seemed to suspect nukes would launch on that particular day. So some indirect warnings were given to friends of those people several hours before things went to hell.
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Crimsoness 04/23/24 8:13:07 AM #17: |
I'm not 100% convinced aliens are canon even with Mothership DLC.
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Sufferedphoenix 04/23/24 8:22:26 AM #18: |
Haven't watched the show but can someone fill me in on vault tecs plan? Like I know the shelters where to be expierements but did they like monitor them from their own shelter or where they idiots and died when the nukes hit? If the former what are they up to I'm fallouts timeline?
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ssjevot 04/23/24 8:25:12 AM #19: |
Crimsoness posted...
I'm not 100% convinced aliens are canon even with Mothership DLC. They're literally in every single mainline Fallout game. Their guns are usually the best weapons in the game. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/23/24 8:27:28 AM #20: |
ssjevot posted...
They're literally in every single mainline Fallout game. Their guns are usually the best weapons in the game.They should remain minor/optional stuff in my humble opinion. I'm not big on alien stuff I'm guessing they only did aliens to use what was basically common place 50s depictions of aliens and their tech. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/23/24 8:29:35 AM #21: |
I feel people arguing over who fired the first nuke (and who 'caused' the fallout) is kind of missing the point that the game was trying to say.
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ssjevot 04/23/24 8:30:29 AM #22: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
They should remain minor/optional stuff in my humble opinion. I'm not big on alien stuff The Enclave has alien tech. Skynet was made with alien tech (it tells you so itself). It started out minor in 1, but starting with 2 they became a pretty involved part of the universe. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/23/24 8:32:26 AM #23: |
ssjevot posted...
The Enclave has alien tech. Skynet was made with alien tech (it tells you so itself). It started out minor in 1, but starting with 2 they became a pretty involved part of the universe. Still seems minor. Though I only remember dealing the enclave in 3 and then the remnants in New Vegas. Don't recall any alien tech not saying it's not there it just wasn't in your face I guess. --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 04/23/24 8:35:13 AM #24: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
Still seems minor. Though I only remember dealing the enclave in 3 and then the remnants in New Vegas. Don't recall any alien tech not saying it's not there it just wasn't in your face I guess. Enclave in 2 and Brotherhood of Steel both have Alien tech. Skynet is an NPC that tells you it was made with alien tech. New Vegas gets more alien encounters if you take the Wild Wasteland trait. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/23/24 8:45:30 AM #25: |
ssjevot posted...
Enclave in 2 and Brotherhood of Steel both have Alien tech. Skynet is an NPC that tells you it was made with alien tech. New Vegas gets more alien encounters if you take the Wild Wasteland trait. Hmm I always took wild wasteland and don't recall anything. Always took it cause the others always had a obvious downside. But yeah never played 1 or 2. Maybe one day --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 04/23/24 8:50:44 AM #27: |
Sufferedphoenix posted...
Hmm I always took wild wasteland and don't recall anything. Always took it cause the others always had a obvious downside.It was to the southeast of the Strip, IIRC, near the eastern edge of the map. --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoenix 04/23/24 8:55:28 AM #28: |
DuneMan posted...
It was to the southeast of the Strip, IIRC, near the eastern edge of the map. I never got much out of that trait but probably because I always used it therefore didnt really realize what was different --- I put my heart and soul into my work and I fear I have lost my mind in the process ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 04/23/24 9:06:36 AM #29: |
ssjevot posted...
I mean the new lore the show seems to be setting is that VaultTec caused the war.It's in the games if you read between the lines. 4's opening shows this. Look at the dudes reaction when he makes sure the MC and family are ready to enter the vault. He knows somethings coming. That's why his reaction on not being let in shocks him. --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SpawnShadow 04/23/24 9:09:24 AM #30: |
ssjevot posted... In established lore China fired the first nuke and it happens after Alaska is retaken and the US has invaded mainland China.Perhaps that's still true, and Vault-Tec simply got beaten to the punch, before they had all their ducks in a row? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 04/23/24 9:22:42 AM #31: |
ssjevot posted...
I mean the new lore the show seems to be setting is that VaultTec caused the war. Reading in-between the lines of the scant lore on the topic, this was kind of already implied to me. At the very least, the elites in America knew that a nuclear exchange was coming and when it was coming. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 04/23/24 10:34:46 AM #32: |
It wasn't Vault Tec it was
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Doom_Art 04/23/24 10:48:01 AM #33: |
Also
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NoxObscuras 04/23/24 11:10:55 AM #34: |
pegusus123456 posted...
I don't know that they did tbh.Touche. It just seemed like whole --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras Z490 | i9-10900K | EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra | 32GB DDR4 3600 | 4TB SSD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 04/23/24 11:15:30 AM #35: |
SpawnShadow posted... Perhaps that's still true, and Vault-Tec simply got beaten to the punch, before they had all their ducks in a row? Something like this might have happened, because not all of the Vaults were ready yet and you'd think they'd want to make sure they were 100% ready before kicking things off. But then again, Vault-Tec is full of idiots and factional competition so who knows? Personally I hope they never actually reveal for certain who kicked things off and just keep it vague that it could've been anybody. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Crimsoness 04/23/24 11:18:03 AM #36: |
Murphiroth posted...
Personally I hope they never actually reveal for certain who kicked things off and just keep it vague that it could've been anybodySame, it's not even really important to the setting. --- She/Her She is like a cat in the dark. And then she is the darkness ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 04/23/24 6:02:30 PM #37: |
SpawnShadow posted...
Perhaps that's still true, and Vault-Tec simply got beaten to the punch, before they had all their ducks in a row?That seems plausible. Coop's wife, the seeming grand architect of the scheme, would have made certain her daughter was with her on the day of the attack, rather than at some kid's birthday party miles from the nearest Vault. --- If you're not smart enough to survive, you are basically just food for something smarter. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE_FOSTER 04/23/24 6:13:34 PM #38: |
Vault tec def got beaten to the punch they were gonna nuke america but china did it first and no aliens play a very small role in fallout besides zeta and that one alien in 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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