Current Events > Trump Trials General Part 18: The Saga Continues

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Cemith
05/16/24 5:02:08 PM
#351:


BewmHedshot posted...
I wonder if proceedings on Monday will be delayed after Trump skips Barron's graduation to go fundraising.

I would assume contempt of court would be on the table for that?

Did we get any confirmation of what Trump did yesterday? Did he actually go to his kids graduation?

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05/16/24 5:04:09 PM
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BewmHedshot
05/16/24 5:07:13 PM
#352:


Cemith posted...
Did we get any confirmation of what Trump did yesterday? Did he actually go to his kids graduation?
The graduation is tomorrow, that's why there's no trial until Monday.
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UltimateWing
05/16/24 5:20:28 PM
#353:


I am seeing different opinions about the trial today. News stations CNN and MSNBC say it was a big blow against the prosecution, but other people who were there say that the defense made a couple points, but nothing major. Example:

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1791179566045700241

Or what the defense was trying to do.

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1791163571247743134

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darkace77450
05/16/24 5:37:43 PM
#355:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Post #336. Basically Cohen lied about the nature of a call to Trump's bodyguard. He said it was about the Stormy Daniels payment, but all the text messages ahead of the call were about dealing with some punk kid who was harassing him, and the 100-second call isn't reasonably long enough to address both the kid and the payment.
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UltimateWing
05/16/24 5:42:43 PM
#357:


It still wasnt a big gotcha moment though.

https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1791207179749667030

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divot1338
05/16/24 5:48:54 PM
#358:


darkace77450 posted...
Post #336. Basically Cohen lied about the nature of a call to Trump's bodyguard. He said it was about the Stormy Daniels payment, but all the text messages ahead of the call were about dealing with some punk kid who was harassing him, and the 100-second call isn't reasonably long enough to address both the kid and the payment.
Hey Curt, Donalds latest bastard has been bullying me and he wont stop. I hope his dad forgets to go to his graduatoon.

Anyway, tell Mr. Orange that the pornstar has been paid.

I dont know about that. I can say all of that and have a minute left over.

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Sandalorn
05/16/24 6:02:10 PM
#359:


I don't really think finding out Cohen is a liar is some sort of huge hit. Even he admits what a shit person he was. He had the receipts of telling Trump and got paid by Trump for it. With all the other testimony, especially from Pecker I don't think it changes anything unless there is a MAGA in the jury.
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darkace77450
05/16/24 6:04:32 PM
#360:


Sandalorn posted...
I don't really think finding out Cohen is a liar is some sort of huge hit. Even he admits what a shit person he was. He had the receipts of telling Trump and got paid by Trump for it. With all the other testimony, especially from Pecker I don't think it changes anything unless there is a MAGA in the jury.

One of the jurors gets their news exclusively from Twitter and Truth Social. I think it's fair to assume there's at least one MAGA on the jury.
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RSmit
05/16/24 6:09:50 PM
#361:


darkace77450 posted...
I think it's fair to assume there's at least one MAGA on the jury.

Can they be replaced by one of the 6 alternate jurors when they remain to be the odd one out during deliberation?

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darkace77450
05/16/24 6:11:30 PM
#362:


RSmit posted...
Can they be replaced by one of the 6 alternate jurors when they remain to be the odd one out during deliberation?

You'd have to ask one of our resident lawyers on that, as I don't know the ins and outs well enough to answer.
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ReiRei89
05/16/24 6:15:13 PM
#363:


I don't see how pointing out Cohen lied invalidates the other witnesses testimony and the mountain of evidence.

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darkace77450
05/16/24 6:22:37 PM
#364:


ReiRei89 posted...
I don't see how pointing out Cohen lied invalidates the other witnesses testimony and the mountain of evidence.

I don't see how OJ pretending to be unable to put a glove on his hand invalidated all the figurative mountain of evidence against him, but he was acquitted nonetheless.
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Euripides
05/16/24 6:23:39 PM
#365:


darkace77450 posted...
I don't see how OJ pretending to be unable to put a glove on his hand invalidated all the figurative mountain of evidence against him, but he was acquitted nonetheless.

That was more about what a complete botch job the LAPD did at the crime scene and with the investigation

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Heineken14
05/16/24 6:24:48 PM
#366:


darkace77450 posted...
https://www.alreporter.com/2024/05/15/sen-tuberville-attorney-general-marshall-help-trump-circumvent-gag-order-in-new-york/

I'd swear this was satire if I was convinced Tuberville knew what satire was.

Man, if I didn't know any better... I'd say that Donnie is needing a safe space for being such an emotional snowflake.

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Sandalorn
05/16/24 6:34:09 PM
#367:


Euripides posted...
That was more about what a complete botch job the LAPD did at the crime scene and with the investigation


And Mark Fuhrman.
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ReiRei89
05/16/24 6:37:28 PM
#368:


darkace77450 posted...
I don't see how OJ pretending to be unable to put a glove on his hand invalidated all the figurative mountain of evidence against him, but he was acquitted nonetheless.
Two completely different things. The LAPD fucked up the investigation so it was easy to question the evidence. The evidence in this trial is solid so Cohen being an idiot shouldn't invalidate it.

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Tyranthraxus
05/16/24 6:42:00 PM
#369:


Even if hypothetically Cohen were to be impeached that's just the same as him having never testified in the first place. There's no problems with Cohen's testimony. It can not be used to help Trump in any way. It can only, at worst, not help the prosecutor.

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MLBloomy
05/16/24 6:45:58 PM
#370:


darkace77450 posted...
https://www.alreporter.com/2024/05/15/sen-tuberville-attorney-general-marshall-help-trump-circumvent-gag-order-in-new-york/

I'd swear this was satire if I was convinced Tuberville knew what satire was.
I think I remember reading that according to formal rules of etiquette, a former president is to be addressed as Mr. (or Miss / Mrs. if applicable), or the highest title other formerly held, like Governor or Senator. Since no other government titles apply in Trump's case, in a formal setting like court, "Mr." it is. Or "the defendant".
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darkace77450
05/16/24 6:51:42 PM
#371:


https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1791101846972449026
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EPR-radar
05/16/24 7:02:52 PM
#372:


MLBloomy posted...
I think I remember reading that according to formal rules of etiquette, a former president is to be addressed as Mr. (or Miss / Mrs. if applicable), or the highest title other formerly held, like Governor or Senator. Since no other government titles apply in Trump's case, in a formal setting like court, "Mr." it is. Or "the defendant".
I'd like to see Scottish insults vs. Trump show up in court for this case -- e.g., having "witless fucking cocksplat" or the like in the transcript would be very funny.

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Euripides
05/16/24 7:06:15 PM
#373:


darkace77450 posted...
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1791101846972449026

Wow, groveling, ass-kissing and dog whistling all in one tweet

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EPR-radar
05/16/24 7:07:54 PM
#374:


Euripides posted...
Wow, groveling, ass-kissing and dog whistling all in one tweet
"For my next trick, Mr. President, let me show you what I can do with 20 feet of garden hose and a baseball."

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CableZL
05/16/24 7:07:55 PM
#375:


https://twitter.com/macfarlanenews/status/1791238551306150352?s=46

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UltimateWing
05/16/24 7:10:24 PM
#377:


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791220278439108659
https://twitter.com/MuellerSheWrote/status/1791211379740856537

Will this be admitted into evidence? Hes confessing again.

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thronedfire2
05/16/24 7:25:54 PM
#378:


darkace77450 posted...
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1791101846972449026

he's just standing by for Trump to pass a 16 year old girl along to him

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ClayGuida
05/16/24 7:28:44 PM
#379:


Do people realize how long 90 seconds truly is?

"Hey some asshole 14 year old is harassing me"
"Just ignore him, he's a troll, block the number and move on"
"Yea, good advice, so anyway, I paid off Stormy and helped bury the story"
"Awesome, he'll be happy to hear that, well seeya"
"Later"

That's legit a 25 second conversation.

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Tyranthraxus
05/16/24 8:09:42 PM
#380:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/macfarlanenews/status/1791238551306150352?s=46

He should shout "AM I BEING DETAINED!?" louder

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Cynyn
05/16/24 8:25:00 PM
#381:


Tyranthraxus posted...
He should shout "AM I BEING DETAINED!?" louder
And question if its under common law or maritime law

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thronedfire2
05/16/24 8:27:51 PM
#382:


ClayGuida posted...
Do people realize how long 90 seconds truly is?

"Hey some asshole 14 year old is harassing me"
"Just ignore him, he's a troll, block the number and move on"
"Yea, good advice, so anyway, I paid off Stormy and helped bury the story"
"Awesome, he'll be happy to hear that, well seeya"
"Later"

That's legit a 25 second conversation.

yeah I'm usually looking for a way out 45 seconds into most phone calls

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Anteaterking
05/16/24 10:01:31 PM
#383:


ClayGuida posted...
Do people realize how long 90 seconds truly is?

"Hey some asshole 14 year old is harassing me"
"Just ignore him, he's a troll, block the number and move on"
"Yea, good advice, so anyway, I paid off Stormy and helped bury the story"
"Awesome, he'll be happy to hear that, well seeya"
"Later"

That's legit a 25 second conversation.

I don't have the number saved to call into my work and so I just scroll back to the last time I called in late or sick and use that.

I used to be shocked that "Hello! This is Y" "Hey it's Anteaterking, can you mark me out as late?" "Sure thing do you want me to put down a specific time?" "Yeah you can put down in by noon" "alright sounds good" "Thanks!"

lasts like...10 seconds.

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Cynyn
05/16/24 10:28:56 PM
#384:


ClayGuida posted...
Do people realize how long 90 seconds truly is?

Obligatory, as long as the sex lasted between Trump and Stormy.


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UltimateWing
05/17/24 3:43:59 AM
#385:


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791323954168414469
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791314730063466704
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791285669563953463
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791275059086258294
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791287034096890202
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791281643770241211
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791269348755316984

Some clips from the oversight hearing this evening. It got wild tonight. MTG got destroyed. Bobo is a fool.

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mystic_belmont
05/17/24 6:49:26 AM
#386:


UltimateWing posted...
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791323954168414469
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791314730063466704
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791285669563953463
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791275059086258294
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791287034096890202
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791281643770241211
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1791269348755316984

Some clips from the oversight hearing this evening. It got wild tonight. MTG got destroyed. Bobo is a fool.

These are all wild.

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05/17/24 8:01:28 AM
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DarkChozoGhost
05/17/24 8:08:15 AM
#387:


darkace77450 posted...
https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1791101846972449026
This is threatening violence. Trump, when asked to condemn a white supremacist group for threatening violence against congress, told them to "stand back and stand by." They proceeded to violently attack congress. Therefore, Gaetz is directly threatening violence.

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littlebro07
05/17/24 8:08:39 AM
#388:


Crockett is amazing lol

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mystic_belmont
05/17/24 8:26:02 AM
#389:


So, what are the odds that Trump doesn't attend his son's graduation?

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Takuya_Lee
05/17/24 8:30:14 AM
#390:


mystic_belmont posted...
So, what are the odds that Trump doesn't attend his son's graduation?

Let's see...carry the 1, add the 5...100 percent.

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mystic_belmont
05/17/24 8:34:18 AM
#391:


Also, the jury could be deliberated as soon as Wednesday? That is some crazy stuff.

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devilminion
05/17/24 9:12:53 AM
#392:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Let's see...carry the 1, add the 5...100 percent.


Trump at the keynote later that night: My son, you know my son? Great boy. 17, 18, 19 years old, great future ahead of him. Had his graduation today, but I couldn't attend it. I'd have loved to, wished nothing more, but those liberals. Yes, those liberal youths would have made it about themselves. The illegals too. They would have rioted and burned the place down. <Insert nonsensical ramble>. I couldn't do that to my boy Bary...Barron, so I had to let him have his moment alone. Huge sacrifice, I know. I keep hearing how humble I am to have done such a thing. The most humble president ever, they say.

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Bishop9800
05/17/24 10:08:02 AM
#393:


devilminion posted...
keep hearing how humble I am to have done such a thing. The most humble president ever, they say.


Now this is some "Grade A" bullshit right here

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Tyranthraxus
05/17/24 10:12:44 AM
#394:


Bishop9800 posted...
Now this is some "Grade A" bullshit right here
I don't think that was a real speech

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Westernwolf4
05/17/24 10:28:19 AM
#396:


devilminion posted...
Trump at the keynote later that night: My son, you know my son? Great boy. 17, 18, 19 years old, great future ahead of him. Had his graduation today, but I couldn't attend it. I'd have loved to, wished nothing more, but those liberals. Yes, those liberal youths would have made it about themselves. The illegals too. They would have rioted and burned the place down. <Insert nonsensical ramble>. I couldn't do that to my boy Bary...Barron, so I had to let him have his moment alone. Huge sacrifice, I know. I keep hearing how humble I am to have done such a thing. The most humble president ever, they say.


This is great, but there needs to be something about the Principal coming to Trump with tears in his eyes and calling him sir to really nail it.


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divot1338
05/17/24 10:44:47 AM
#397:


Westernwolf4 posted...
This is great, but there needs to be something about the Principal coming to Trump with tears in his eyes and calling him sir to really nail it.
I kind of read all of these in Seth Meyers impression.

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chris1001_the_sequel
05/17/24 11:02:13 AM
#399:


So, is not doing what a judge gave you time off to do actually punishable, or is it just a major credibility hit?

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BewmHedshot
05/17/24 11:06:55 AM
#400:


chris1001_the_sequel posted...
So, is not doing what a judge gave you time off to do actually punishable, or is it just a major credibility hit?
At the very least, it wouldn't play favorably during sentencing.
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