Board 8 > Community Mafia Topic 12 - Postmodern Analysis of the Joke Phase

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ctesjbuvf posted...

Why is Ben in a parentheses lol

Copy paste error from the last set.

Red didn't vote on d3, either. So for all the grief I've gotten over "saying not to lynch Corrik but not voting for your preferred lynch until you reviewed the game and identified parts where they were actually scummy" I'm a little annoyed at how "not voting anyone even the people you said you'd shoot" gets a pass.

For reference:
Final Day Three Votals
[6] Corrik - Ulti, (Kirby), (IGCD), (MI), (IGCD), (Death), Kirby, Blade, (IGCD), Death, (IGCD), Ben, IGCD
[2] Red - (Ben), FD, (Mzero), Peaf, (Kirby)
[1] Peaf - (Corrik), (Blade), Mzero, (MI), (Changmas)
[0] Ctes - (Death)
No vote: red (ever), ctes (blocked), Corrik, Sbell (ever), MI, Chang, and i think I'm missing one

I mean

Is red getting a pass or is red getting lynched?

ctesjbuvf posted...

Why is Ben in a parentheses lol

Why does MI have 2 separate entries?

that's Too Much MI

You know looking back Peaf is a real "I have doubts about the X lynch guys"
No matter if X is scum or town, but still

Forceful_Dragon posted...

We still don't have votes from Ben, Blade, Chang, Ctes, Death, IGCD and Red.

IGCD gets a pass because he has to be the final vote
Ctes gets a pass because he is apparently unable to vote

Where do the rest of you stand? Are you all so worried to weigh in that you haven't cast a vote on anyone yet today?

I feel like I've made it clear my "vote" is on Red and I like him the least in the game currently. I've just been not voting I want to see how everyone else votes and I dont feel like I need to fight for anything at the moment with Red in the lead

Man if only Lopen was a real multivoter
That would have been a nice way to avoid this 'what was Lopen' mess.

TotallyNotMI posted...

I mean

Is red getting a pass or is red getting lynched?

I'm not aware of anyone explaining their vote with that comment but yeah point taken.

htaeD posted...

You know looking back Peaf is a real "I have doubts about the X lynch guys"
No matter if X is scum or town, but still

This feels reductionist.
I had never played with Knightz before and was weirded out by the whole situation.
I thought wallz was town and Kirby was scum on day 1, so coming in to day 2 and mentally reconciling that was harder for me. I'm not Ulti who can flip on a dime, or Lopen who can house trillions of alternative universes simultaneously in his head.
And on corrik i had good reason to think that corrik was town. I can go find the post where i summarized it and i remember ctes agreeing with my logic.

Forceful_Dragon posted...

that's Too Much MI

no such thing

PeaceFrog posted...

I had never played with Knightz before and was weirded out by the whole situation.
I thought wallz was town and Kirby was scum on day 1, so coming in to day 2 and mentally reconciling that was harder for me. I'm not Ulti who can flip on a dime, or Lopen who can house trillions of alternative universes simultaneously in his head.

I suddenly got a deja vu

didn't you have an absolutely brutal game recently where like, all of your reads were wrong

actually I think it was the game I hosted in fact

MZero posted...

I suddenly got a deja vu

didn't you have an absolutely brutal game recently where like, all of your reads were wrong

Is that not
Most of them

But yeah bloodborne i tunneled on lopen and was a major asshole towards him for like 3 straight game days. He was town.

Paper Mario i called scum ben town for at least 2 game days.

I'm sure there are others. Which one did you host?

Went through my pm's, yeah you hosted Mario.

My memory sucks but i know i thought plum was town until the last day thanks to Kirby, and thought Ulti was scum until the last day thanks to Kirby. Didn't realize i was being played by scum Ben until Kirby removed the wool over my eyes. I think the only scum i was right on in that game was sbell.

Real talk i never understood why i was an n1 kill so many times given how horrible my reads tend to be but that's neither here nor there, I'm glad for your sakes that you scum teams have better prioritization now and i actually get to play (and be shit)

PeaceFrog posted...

I'm not aware of anyone explaining their vote with that comment but yeah point taken.

This feels reductionist.
I had never played with Knightz before and was weirded out by the whole situation.
I thought wallz was town and Kirby was scum on day 1, so coming in to day 2 and mentally reconciling that was harder for me. I'm not Ulti who can flip on a dime, or Lopen who can house trillions of alternative universes simultaneously in his head.
And on corrik i had good reason to think that corrik was town. I can go find the post where i summarized it and i remember ctes agreeing with my logic.

Well okay in the final case its moreso the final posts before the lynch happened that caught my eye. Like the one from day1 that you will remember me calling you out for, and one on day3 after Corrik claimed to be the kidnapper.

If i was scum and knew what each of them were going to flip, do either of those posts make sense for me to make?

Corrik it felt like he was just causing chaos for fun on his way out and it was funny, but at the time i was just like dubya tee eff i don't get it

I also tried to check that moment specifically to see if anyone acted like they had TMI.
Since scum knew Corrik did not vanish Lopen...(barring some weird independent vanisher role)

FD, Ben and Ulti rejected the idea (for either flavor or behavior reasons)
IGCD seemed most accepting of it, to the point of upsetting Ulti
Ctes was stuck between hoping for it to be true and disbelieving it.
MI and Blade are harder to gauge, sounded kinda neutral.
And Peaf just restated that he thought Corrik could be town.

The best I got out of this is that IGCD sounds innocent, lol.

htaeD posted...

And Peaf just restated that he thought Corrik could be town.

I said i wasn't so sure about Corrik any more.

As in, maybe he fooled me and was actually scum. Because i didn't see the town purpose in causing that kind of mayhem right before lynch, whether what he was saying was true or not.

PeaceFrog posted...

Yeah I'm really starting to think i was wrong about Corrik, guys

This post at least did feel natural from Peaf because this was after Corik claimed in the final 5 minutes, and anyone's switch should have flipped to thinking he was scum by that point.

TotallyNotMI posted...

Gee it's almost like I don't know things for sure and am trying to look at both sides to figure out the truth, go figure

I gave you where your PoE was wrong and you've basically blown me off.

Kirby321 posted...

And because MI is a bad player, I feel like lynching a better player. Because I'm feeling spicy today.

This is so fucking dumb.

Stop trying to will people scum for no reason.

"I'm lynching you for being a better player" when everything we've seen from scum makes no fucking sense.

I could see it if there was some master plan to save knightz or wallz but you've got no scuk equity on my part there. The night kills have been fucking insanity.

Yeah, I didn't like your attitude.

But at least now I don't think Peaf is your scummate!

PeaceFrog posted...

I said i wasn't so sure about Corrik any more.

As in, maybe he fooled me and was actually scum. Because i didn't see the town purpose in causing that kind of mayhem right before lynch, whether what he was saying was true or not.

Oh
Okay without context I thought the exact opposite.
Makes me like the reaction a bit more actually

TotallyNotMI posted...

Yeah, I didn't like your attitude.

But at least now I don't think Peaf is your scummate!

It wasn't fucking attitude, it was information you yourself posted.

Which you decided to blow off instead of go "oh wait actually I'm wrong i should actually prepare for what this means:.

I kind of want Red lynched just because he's being a pompous jerk for some reason

UltimaterializerX posted...

This is why I don't think Red is scum, btw, and that scum is all over his lynch.

and yet you're going to scan him?

MZero posted...

I kind of want Red lynched just because he's being a pompous jerk for some reason

For some reason oh gee i fucking wonder.

I mean you just keep telling MI his PoE is "objectively wrong" because you and Peaf can't possibly be scum together but obviously no one knows if that's true besides... you and Peaf

like sure, you can say it doesn't make sense for you two to be aligned or whatever but that doesn't equal objectively wrong and honestly wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever seen in a mafia game. That would be less surprising than FD being scum with Peaf in Valentine's even. But either way you're being way too aggressive about it

If only you had scanned Red by now.

PunishedBen posted...

This post at least did feel natural from Peaf because this was after Corik claimed in the final 5 minutes, and anyone's switch should have flipped to thinking he was scum by that point.

Thanks for pulling up the post, Ben.

MZero posted...

I kind of want Red lynched just because he's being a pompous jerk for some reason

I know I'm bad at reading people but are you saying you think this is unusual?

MZero posted...

mean you just keep telling MI his PoE is "objectively wrong" because you and Peaf can't possibly be scum together but obviously no one knows if that's true besides... you and Peaf

MI this has been explained over and over.

If you are going to read back the game and tell us how the fuck we are aligned have at it so i can tell you how fucking stupid that is.

PeaceFrog posted...

I know I'm bad at reading people but are you saying you think this is unusual?

I generally find red pleasant to play with!

Mzero, i mean. Dumb m's

MZero posted...

But either way you're being way too aggressive about it

There is no such thing.

Leafeon13N posted...

MI this has been explained over and over.

If you are going to read back the game and tell us how the fuck we are aligned have at it so i can tell you how fucking stupid that is.

and that will be WIFOM (and very biased for obvious reasons)

I have no problem with arguing your case, or stating why you aren't scum with peaf, but stuff like this

Leafeon13N posted...

I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm showing the fucking evidence that you are wrong by your own logic.

Its not me saying you are wrong.

It is me literally pointing out the fsct you are wrong.

So at the very least fucking re-evaluate. You dont have a poe to stand by atm.

comes across very condescending and is also not accurate

Red is being less aggressive defending himself now than Blade was when defending red on day 3

I will say I dont recall scumred being this angry last game.

htaeD posted...

I will say I dont recall scumred being this angry last game.

Yeah, at first it seemed fake but now I think he's probably just town

Anyway I have to sleep good night friends lynch peaf <3

UltimaterializerX posted...

No need to. I read him town.

Like SBell?

I kinda believe red and i also dont think ulti and red are both scum under almost any circumstances

Ctes will you answer for me if youre withholding your own vote

if you are town then scum already knows if thats the case so we should too

therefore i think its very likely that you arent, but just to have confirmation that the scum team is actively using that ability at night

Stealing your own vote, etc whatever language you want to use are you doing it to yourself

UltimaterializerX posted...

This is why I don't think Red is scum, btw, and that scum is all over his lynch.

Can you explain? I actually just need help reading him here

Ulti i thought you were of the opinion that it was Blade