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changmas
05/11/24 5:19:55 PM
#51:


if scum had a bus driver wouldn't blade or kirby or ulti be dead by now? It literally completely nullifies protection abilities used to save people and they could have killed whoever they wanted

if anything I would be more likely to believe someone is hiding a town bus driver claim and they've redirected a couple of the odd kills (like isquen)


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Leafeon13N
05/11/24 5:20:32 PM
#52:


Even if i put trust in ctes, from that perspective it is hard to know who to distrust without knowing what he does.
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changmas
05/11/24 5:20:47 PM
#53:


perhaps Blade is not exactly a "doctor"

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:20:48 PM
#54:


I feel like MI can't in good faith call that the simplest answer

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Leafeon13N
05/11/24 5:21:08 PM
#55:


changmas posted...
if scum had a bus driver wouldn't blade or kirby or ulti be dead by now? It literally completely nullifies protection abilities used to save people and they could have killed whoever they wanted

if anything I would be more likely to believe someone is hiding a town bus driver claim and they've redirected a couple of the odd kills (like isquen)
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htaeD
05/11/24 5:21:34 PM
#56:


changmas posted...
if scum had a bus driver wouldn't blade or kirby or ulti be dead by now? It literally completely nullifies protection abilities used to save people and they could have killed whoever they wanted

if anything I would be more likely to believe someone is hiding a town bus driver claim and they've redirected a couple of the odd kills (like isquen)

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Who did Kirby roleblock night2 again?
Maybe Kirby blocked the busdriver and thats why scum wound up shooting Isquen.

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changmas
05/11/24 5:23:08 PM
#57:


htaeD posted...
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Who did Kirby roleblock night2 again?
Maybe Kirby blocked the busdriver and thats why scum wound up shooting Isquen.

I believe it was

n1: wallz
n2: corrik
n3: MI
n4: ulti

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:23:16 PM
#58:


changmas posted...
if scum had a bus driver wouldn't blade or kirby or ulti be dead by now? It literally completely nullifies protection abilities used to save people and they could have killed whoever they wanted

if anything I would be more likely to believe someone is hiding a town bus driver claim and they've redirected a couple of the odd kills (like isquen)
Town bus can't exist with Kirby and I.

I suspect the bus drive isn't unlimited use, but scum was too afraid of watcher to go after us with a bus. Anyone watching one of us would still see the bus driver targeting us.

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htaeD
05/11/24 5:23:33 PM
#59:


changmas posted...
I believe it was

n1: wallz
n2: corrik
n3: MI
n4: ulti
Ah right
Sigh
Nevermind

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htaeD
05/11/24 5:24:33 PM
#60:


Night1 kill was blocked
Night3 make sense as kills to make for scum if scum somehow knew Sbell was a Watcher
That Isquen kill however makes no sense if they had a busdriver.

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changmas
05/11/24 5:24:40 PM
#61:


Meow1000 posted...
Town bus can't exist with Kirby and I.

I suspect the bus drive isn't unlimited use, but scum was too afraid of watcher to go after us with a bus. Anyone watching one of us would still see the bus driver targeting us.

and instead of using that ability to kill you or kirby last night they bus drove red and ctes in the event that Ulti scanned red?

yeah I don't think so

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:24:42 PM
#62:


Also I don't believe town bus ever even considers swapping Ctes and Red last night.

Like why would they

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:25:08 PM
#63:


htaeD posted...
Night1 kill was blocked
Night3 make sense as kills to make for scum if scum somehow knew Sbell was a Watcher
That Isquen kill however makes no sense if they had a busdriver.
Isquen was a power hunt. Ulti pretty much flat out said this.

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htaeD
05/11/24 5:25:31 PM
#64:


I however dont believe Red would willingly pretend to be swapped with Ctes.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:25:58 PM
#66:


I can admit it's possible my insistence that red is scum is influencing my theory.

But I do feel extremely confident in my ctes/Ulti thoughts.

And I just can't buy a scum redirector appearing here when scum already had such a strong roleblocker

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:26:27 PM
#67:


changmas posted...
and instead of using that ability to kill you or kirby last night they bus drove red and ctes in the event that Ulti scanned red?

yeah I don't think so
In the event that Kirby blocked Red.

I've been under the belief for a while that MZero was shot intentionally, has just been a matter of figuring out why.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:27:32 PM
#69:


How would scum know ctes was suddenly going to scan guilty yesterday Ulti?

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:28:08 PM
#71:


I'm not humoring any theory that town did a completely nonsensical bus drive last night with Doctor+JK in the game so

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:28:18 PM
#72:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Town never ever ever ever swaps Red and ctes.
I agree

Ergo I don't think there was any real swapping.

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:29:15 PM
#74:


I still find it bonkers how much Chang is arguing it came from town given how it makes absolutely no sense at all.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:29:56 PM
#75:


No your theory has an obvious hole it in that falls apart with any critical thinking and this isn't the first time.

I'm extremely confident at this point on scum ulti claiming lopen's role. I will support lynching him or ctes here.

##Unvote

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:30:18 PM
#77:


Everyone called Ulti town until I yesterday spent forever building a theory that he could have Lopens role and now I am seeing someone feel confident about Ctes/Ulti scum team.

What is even happening.

Reminds me of how I've been ignored it but every comment you guys made the last three days about vote stealer being a ridiculous scum power, but I agree it would be.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:31:06 PM
#79:


I don't think scum has a path to victory without lynching me which is why Ulti is so dead set on doing it no matter what

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:33:14 PM
#81:


People who said scum with that ability would keep it hidden were probably super right.

But this is the simplest case.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:34:39 PM
#82:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Everyone called Ulti town until I yesterday spent forever building a theory that he could have Lopens role and now I am seeing someone feel confident about Ctes/Ulti scum team.
This is revisionist, there was plenty of doubt voiced on Ulti with him claiming a scan on SBell

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:35:33 PM
#83:


What even is the link between me and Ulti being proposed? That I could vote today and Ulti was jailkept?

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:36:21 PM
#84:


ctesjbuvf posted...
What even is the link between me and Ulti being proposed? That I could vote today and Ulti was jailkept?
Yes. The obvious conclusion would be that Ulti was the votestealer so you had to change your claim to account for why you could vote today.

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:36:25 PM
#85:


TotallyNotMI posted...
This is revisionist, there was plenty of doubt voiced on Ulti with him claiming a scan on SBell

Blade said that but it didn't really catch on.

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:37:02 PM
#86:


Death+MI
Death+Red
Ulti+Ctes

Those are the three most likely specific pairs of scum.

Death/Ben
MI/Red

Are likely unpaired.

Who's the third scum in the three scenarios above is what I'm asking myself.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/11/24 5:38:05 PM
#87:


Meow1000 posted...
Death+MI
Death+Red
Ulti+Ctes

Those are the three most likely specific pairs of scum.

Death/Ben
MI/Red

Are likely unpaired.

Who's the third scum in the three scenarios above is what I'm asking myself.

If the scum roles are all as overpowered as it seems then there might not be a 3rd

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:38:06 PM
#88:


ctesjbuvf posted...
Everyone called Ulti town until I yesterday spent forever building a theory that he could have Lopens role and now I am seeing someone feel confident about Ctes/Ulti scum team.

What is even happening.

Reminds me of how I've been ignored it but every comment you guys made the last three days about vote stealer being a ridiculous scum power, but I agree it would be.
Uh

When have I called Ulti town

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:38:13 PM
#89:


And the redirect then, MI?

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:38:32 PM
#90:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
If the scum roles are all as overpowered as it seems then there might not be a 3rd
If only 4 scum there must be an Indy, though.

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IfGodCouldDie
05/11/24 5:39:59 PM
#91:


Meow1000 posted...
If only 4 scum there must be an Indy, though.
IGCD - Red probably

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:41:34 PM
#92:


Anyways, Ctes' claim is one of those things that looks like one of the worst fakeclaims you've ever seen to the point where you wonder if it might somehow actually be true.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:43:41 PM
#93:


ctesjbuvf posted...
And the redirect then, MI?
You know my thoughts.

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:45:13 PM
#94:


That red and I are faking that?

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:47:34 PM
#95:


That makes more sense to me than scum having a double roleblock/rolecop and a redirect yes.

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:47:46 PM
#96:


For the record if Ulti/Ctes are scum I believe the redirect is real.

Scum shooting directly at me or MZero would not have been at any risk of being saved.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/11/24 5:48:38 PM
#97:


ctesjbuvf posted...
That red and I are faking that?

If red is faking then he did a masterful job. I thought it was really strange last night when he started to ask me about my action confirmations, but now it fits.

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Meow1000
05/11/24 5:48:42 PM
#98:


TotallyNotMI posted...
That makes more sense to me than scum having a double roleblock/rolecop and a redirect yes.
You'd have to sell me on why Red has any motive at all to tell such a lie. I'm not seeing one.

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ctesjbuvf
05/11/24 5:49:34 PM
#99:


Then your guess is exactly Ulti/Red/me, then how did you talk yourself half out of red only when it's a package you have made? In this case me being scum requires red to be with me, it doesn't make sense to doubt him only.

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TotallyNotMI
05/11/24 5:49:49 PM
#100:


Meow1000 posted...
You'd have to sell me on why Red has any motive at all to tell such a lie. I'm not seeing one.
I mean the topic devolved into like 200 some posts about what could have caused it so I see it as a means to confuse/distract town

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