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pedro45
05/15/24 1:03:37 AM
#51:


This is dumb. Why make it harder? The young women are gonna turn to shady things now since they...Oh! I see what they did there.
You all know this is an attack on the working class, right?

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Mr_Karate_II
05/15/24 1:13:24 AM
#52:


PraetorXyn posted...
Kind of surprised they didnt lower it, but this is stupid. If youre old enough to vote and go die in a war, youre old enough to strip or drink alcohol.
What?

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ai123
05/15/24 1:17:48 AM
#53:


Things in Florida must be going pretty well if they have time for this.


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kingdrake2
05/15/24 1:25:48 AM
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ai123 posted...
Things in Florida must be going pretty well if they have time for this.



if it tanks the economy it's a risk willing to take. has to stamp out the horny slowly or fast (whichever does the most damage).

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QJD1381
05/15/24 2:16:40 AM
#55:


So girls can get butt ass naked and railed by a group of guys on camera at 18, but now have to wait 3 more years to dance on a pole with lingerie on in front of them?

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Hexenherz
05/15/24 2:17:22 AM
#56:


As someone who joined the military at 18... what about the other hopeless people out there who need a calling in life but didn't earn the grades or have the money to actually attend college? There are few viable opportunities besides minimum wage jobs that we all know are unsustainable.

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The_Wheelman1
05/15/24 2:19:37 AM
#57:


QJD1381 posted...
So girls can get butt ass naked and railed by a group of guys on camera at 18, but now have to wait 3 more years to dance on a pole with lingerie on in front of them?
Makes me wonder how much longer until 18 year old porn becomes illegal and considered child porn.

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GS4Life
05/15/24 2:20:05 AM
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Hexenherz posted...
As someone who joined the military at 18... what about the other hopeless people out there who need a calling in life but didn't earn the grades or have the money to actually attend college? There are few viable opportunities besides minimum wage jobs that we all know are unsustainable.
fair
definitely should could change it so 21 is the minimum for combat related roles though.

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jumi
05/15/24 3:02:50 AM
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Sorry, girls putting yourselves through college!

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FinalBraveNUT
05/15/24 3:34:55 AM
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Enclave posted...
I'd be fine raising that to 21 as well.

Can gamble n die for your country but beer. Weed. Cigarettes. Strippers. Nawww 3 more years maybe you can handle those

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Enclave
05/15/24 3:39:01 AM
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FinalBraveNUT posted...
Can gamble n die for your country but beer. Weed. Cigarettes. Strippers. Nawww 3 more years maybe you can handle those

Lol, I already said I'd be fine increasing the age for joining the military.

I also have zero problem with cigarettes being made illegal, that shit killed my dad and my Nonno.

Also I absolutely think we need more restrictions on gambling than we currently have.

All 3 of those things in actually have far stronger feelings about than women having to wait until they're 21 to become a stripper, with regards to that I just find it hard to care, I don't have strong feelings about it.

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divot1338
05/15/24 3:40:13 AM
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Turbam posted...
I guess I'm not entirely upset about this.
So an adult who can serve in the military cant take their clothes off? Thats fair to you?

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Goderator
05/15/24 4:38:54 AM
#63:


They should probably increase most controversial affairs to 21. A lot of 18 year olds are still in high school and don't know the first thing about being an adult yet. I've seen some young girls having to cope with alcohol and drugs due to sleazy visitors at strip clubs.
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LeoRavus
05/15/24 4:49:15 AM
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So all the strippers under 21 will be fired?

That would suck for those dependent on that income for survival and could lead to illegal sex work.

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divot1338
05/15/24 5:31:06 AM
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So the Republican position is you can work in a dangerous poultry slaughtering facility at 13, die for your country at 18, take your clothes off for money at 21, and vote at well its complicated.

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SSMajinVegeta2
05/15/24 6:03:35 AM
#66:


Considering how immature as a whole Americans are probably a good thing

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LtZim
05/15/24 6:51:12 AM
#67:


The_Wheelman1 posted...
Makes me wonder how much longer until 18 year old porn becomes illegal and considered child porn.
This has already happened
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Cheetaluv
05/15/24 6:52:27 AM
#68:


Politics will argue over anything even this, holy shit.

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LtZim
05/15/24 7:02:09 AM
#69:


If a legal adult gets kicked out of their parents house at 18 what are they supposed to do until they're 21??

Average rent in Florida is $1900 month ($22,800/year)
https://www.redfin.com/state/Florida/rental-market

Minimum wage in Florida is $10/hr
That's $1600/month full time ($19,200/year)

https://www.floridajobs.org

Average wages for a stripper are $54,000 ($4500/month) up to $84,000

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/stripper-salary-SRCH_KO0,8.htm

Clearly there's something wrong here
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LtZim
05/15/24 7:03:48 AM
#70:


Oh I forgot that DeSantis also introduced that other bill that guarantees everyone a job that pays a living wage
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R1masher
05/15/24 7:10:19 AM
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DarkAssassin89 posted...
More womens rights stripped away by right wing zealots

theres most likely young men that want to be strippers too, lest we forget how I bought my first car

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LtZim
05/15/24 7:22:57 AM
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GiftedACIII
05/15/24 7:37:02 AM
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I wonder whether some of this obsession with raising age limits by the terminally online might have to do with how they didn't get a job, lose their virginity, become independent until or even still hasn't in their late 20s-30s and they want the government to validate them.

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wackyteen
05/15/24 7:43:41 AM
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GiftedACIII posted...
I wonder whether some of this obsession with raising age limits by the terminally online might have to do with how they didn't get a job, lose their virginity, become independent until or even still hasn't in their late 20s-30s and they want the government to validate them.

I think a lot of it is just moral superiority jousting.

"I don't want to be potentially called a creep so I'll go above and beyond and advocate raising age limits for morally 'questionable' activities, that way I can never be called a derogatory name. In the mean time please ignore my constant infantilization of adults. They don't know any better but I do!"

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ViewtifulGrave
05/15/24 7:45:58 AM
#76:


DarkAssassin89 posted...
More womens rights stripped away by right wing zealots
Wouldnt this affect male strippers as well?

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GiftedACIII
05/15/24 7:52:33 AM
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wackyteen posted...
I think a lot of it is just moral superiority jousting.

"I don't want to be potentially called a creep so I'll go above and beyond and advocate raising age limits for morally 'questionable' activities, that way I can never be called a derogatory name. In the mean time please ignore my constant infantilization of adults. They don't know any better but I do!"

Might be for some people but for others I think there's genuine belief there especially when they want consistency with the 21 drinking limit. They just don't realize that they're going about the consistency from the wrong end as 21 drinking age is an American exclusive thing and the vast majority of social people have casually drank before then anyway.

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LightHawKnight
05/15/24 8:10:52 AM
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Arent republicans pushing to keep child marriages around and didnt one say something about a young girl being ripe and fertile?

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SpawnShadow
05/15/24 8:18:52 AM
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LtZim posted...
If a legal adult gets kicked out of their parents house at 18 what are they supposed to do until they're 21??

Average rent in Florida is $1900 month ($22,800/year)
https://www.redfin.com/state/Florida/rental-market

Minimum wage in Florida is $10/hr
That's $1600/month full time ($19,200/year)

https://www.floridajobs.org

Average wages for a stripper are $54,000 ($4500/month) up to $84,000

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/stripper-salary-SRCH_KO0,8.htm

Clearly there's something wrong here
Simple: they're expected to commit crimes to make up the difference or else be rendered homeless. Either way, they then get arrested and funneled into the prison system, where they'll then spend much of their remaining lives turning a profit for private prison magnates and making it easier for Republicans to "win" elections by being removed from the voter pool.
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DKBananaSlamma
05/15/24 8:19:14 AM
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DarkChozoGhost
05/15/24 8:31:47 AM
#82:


This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

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Aztex
05/15/24 8:37:56 AM
#83:


DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
This is being done 80% to force people into terrible jobs and hopefully trap them, 15% to deter women from going to college by taking away a common method of paying for it, 3% to set stronger precedent for other laws limiting women's autonomy, and 2% virtue signaling for the religious right.


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ExtremeLuchador
05/15/24 8:51:46 AM
#84:


This is like Texas where they are just trying to funnel people into low-paying service jobs. At 18 you can be kicked out of your house and also do grown up time for crimes you committed.

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DarkChozoGhost
05/15/24 8:53:16 AM
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Yup. And note that this leaves 0% left for protecting women from reckless choices, because that's not factored in. Stripping is actually the safest type of sex work, the hardest to get started with, has the least pressure to "go further" and risk harming oneself, and leaves the least "records" that could come back to haunt you. So it's actually making the world more dangerous for these young women.

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Euripides
05/15/24 8:55:40 AM
#86:


If 18 is legally considered an adult, then all laws should apply equally (whether you like them or not):
  • voting
  • alcohol sales
  • gun sales
  • sex work
  • military service
  • marriage


Picking and choosing ages for when people are allowed to do stuff seems like bullshit to me (and I'm personally against some of the things on my list)

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MangaBroski
05/15/24 8:57:02 AM
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Does this affect OnlyFans? Becaise the only reason I could see traditional stripping being preferable is because the income might be steadier for some, though I would imagine the work culture to be more toxic (where isnt the work culture generally toxic?)
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CARRRNE_ASADA
05/15/24 8:58:13 AM
#88:


Cant complain much about this. Theyll probably try their hand in OF and other online services...which Id imagine its safer. But yeah, its the reasons behind this that Im dubious about and the precedent its creating that could escalate things further down to the "christofacist" world.

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Trumpo
05/15/24 9:01:26 AM
#89:


Lady on the left does not look happy about it

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kingdrake2
05/15/24 9:02:07 AM
#90:


MangaBroski posted...
Does this affect OnlyFans?


they haven't targeted onlyfans but republican's senators/governors can find a way to do things the majority doesn't like.

ie limits on horny maybe even no horny.

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epik_fail1
05/15/24 9:04:15 AM
#91:


I am not fron the US, but I actually thought it was already 21 due to drinking age law.
It's 18 to drink where I live.

Kinda weird to let people strip at a place they cannot be legally customer.

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Sad_Face
05/15/24 9:12:01 AM
#93:


PraetorXyn posted...
Kind of surprised they didnt lower it, but this is stupid. If youre old enough to vote and go die in a war, youre old enough to strip or drink alcohol.


Every country needs some form of protection; a military to defend their turf. You will be at the mercy of those around you if you do not have a force to impose your will.

The latter two, lust and gluttony, are vices. They're not exactly required for a functioning society but people want them anyway. If left unchecked, they could cause adverse effects to society at large. With stripping, you're putting women in precarious environments that are ripe with drugs and could lead to abuse or trafficking. With alcohol, if left unchecked, car crashes and other destructive actions that could hurt those around you awaits.

Mind you these are the reasoning in principles for the military, I'm not factoring in the US' abuse of the military to further "the powers that be"'s goals that have nothing to do with supporting the American people. And the latter two are reasons in practice.

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DarkChozoGhost
05/15/24 9:17:57 AM
#94:


CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Theyll probably try their hand in OF and other online services...which Id imagine its safer.
It's not overall

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Of course they say that. In practice it will increase trafficking.

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ZMythos
05/15/24 9:19:02 AM
#95:


DrizztLink posted...
Matt Gaetz is undoubtedly livid.
That wasn't his demographic to begin with.

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Sad_Face
05/15/24 9:20:58 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
While some lawmakers applauded the anti-trafficking bill as a whole, they said they were concerned the stripping provision is trying to legislate conservative values and control adult women (coincidentally on International Women's Day). Rep. Michele Rayner of St. Petersburg pointed to some legislators' attempts to lower the minimum age for certain gun purchases in Florida from 21 to 18.


I'm not understanding your sentiment. You're worried about controlling women or pushing conservative ideals? The whole point of a government is to regulate behaviors. Behaviors of men, women, boys and girls; all to make sure, in principle, the actions someone takes doesn't negatively affect your life. The conservative/liberal slant is going to be a factor because conservatives and liberals have generally different ideas on what's good and bad.

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CyborgSage00x0
05/15/24 9:25:49 AM
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FL: Trying to make it so younger people can buy guns, but you have to be older to be a stripper.

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Prismsblade
05/15/24 9:28:34 AM
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MaxEffingBemis posted...
And yet you only have to be 18 to join the military
Idk why people keep bringing up this for comparison as if its equivalent in the slightest. Especially when your country is facing a legit and existential crisis and wouldnt be thrown out the window as soon as shit hits the fan.

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Sad_Face
05/15/24 9:29:09 AM
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Asherlee10 posted...
Regulation of people, laws, policies, statutes, etc. are not without motive. In this case, these are conservative motives behind the law guised as protecting women from human trafficking when the GOP has no recent history of doing anything like that. But we do have a history of them trying to force christo-fascist bulls*** onto the nation.


That's a new word to me. What's wrong with Christianity?

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