Current Events > Is Windows 11 worth upgrading to yet?

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Windows 10 is ending support in October next year. Do I wait until then?

I have a gaming PC and I understand it isn't (wasn't?) good for gaming

There is literally nothing wrong with Windows 11 . I had zero problems with it

I've been using W11 since it launched and my only complaints are that the file explorer is slow as mollasses and there's a lot of Microsoft App/Account bullshit that requires effort to remove. Other than that it's basically W10 but with a much more pleasant looking UI.

Switched to Win 11 and why the fuck is everything hidden the god damn point of hiding my right click options?! I hate the new centered layout, switched to back to the left, wish the power options could be swapped.

The main annoyance with W11 imo is the right click context menu. I don't mind hiding most of the options behind a "More Options" button but at least let me choose what is on the first smaller menu.

I know there's a registry edit to restore the full menu but I've heard updates occasionally revert it.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

The main annoyance with W11 imo is the right click context menu. I don't mind hiding most of the options behind a "More Options" button but at least let me choose what is on the first smaller menu.

I know there's a registry edit to restore the full menu but I've heard updates occasionally revert it.

Even without updates it randomly reverts itself for abit. Sometimes I have to right click, click away and right click again to get all the options.

I switched to Windows 11 when it came out and generally feel no different about how it works than Win 10.

Actually if anything I'm having less audio issues every windows update, but windows update still causes my audio setup to break every fucking time. Just not as massively!

(windows doesn't like the extra audio input/output from my capture card sometimes)

My task bar is fucked and every app I open goes full screen and the bottom hides behind the task bar.

My ~10 year old PC is too old for it. I'm probably gonna build a new one toward the end of this year.

The Android support sounded really cool but they got rid of it, or are getting rid of it.

CableZL posted...

My ~10 year old PC is too old for it. I'm probably gonna build a new one toward the end of this year.

Same, I only want a new rig to play Cyberpunk with mods but Im just lazy at this point about it.

LightHawKnight posted...

Even without updates it randomly reverts itself for abit. Sometimes I have to right click, click away and right click again to get all the options.

Damn. Good thing I've just decided to deal with it instead of "fixing" it. Extra clicks to use 7zip to extract instead of the built in Windows one is killing me though.

InTheEyesOfFire posted...

Same, I only want a new rig to play Cyberpunk with mods but Im just lazy at this point about it.

Yeah, I'm just not in any rush to build a new one because my old PC still runs like it's brand new. I'm actually amazed. I'll never buy a pre-built PC ever again. I've never had a pre-built PC last more than a few years or so without either having some fatal error or just ending up being slow AF. Then I built this one and it just... works. I've had to replace a couple hard drives and a power supply, but that's it.

Nah. I won't even be upgrading then. I'll stay on 10 until I actually can't anymore. What do I care if it's not supported? What does that even mean? Those updates they keep making me download: do they even do anything, like at all?

I've been on Windows since 98, and lemme tell ya, starting with Vista nothing changes that's worth caring about. I'm sure under the hood it does miraculous stuff or whatever but since all I ever do is click desktop icons, use (the old) command prompt and maybe use explorer/control panel from time to time, I've never had any reason to even notice. Oh look there are random internet pictures in the start menu now, whooptydoo.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Damn. Good thing I've just decided to deal with it instead of "fixing" it. Extra clicks to use 7zip to extract instead of the built in Windows one is killing me though.

In the past 2 months since I upgraded, it only happened 3-4 times, so honestly still better than having to deal with the extra clicks. I still want to find the asshole who thought it was a great idea and shove a pole up his ass. Though I am someone who works with zips a lot.

It's never not been worth upgrading to.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

Nah. I won't even be upgrading then. I'll stay on 10 until I actually can't anymore. What do I care if it's not supported? What does that even mean? Those updates they keep making me download: do they even do anything, like at all?

I've been on Windows since 98, and lemme tell ya, starting with Vista nothing changes that's worth caring about. I'm sure under the hood it does miraculous stuff or whatever but since all I ever do is click desktop icons, use (the old) command prompt and maybe use explorer/control panel from time to time, I've never had any reason to even notice. Oh look there are random internet pictures in the start menu now, whooptydoo.

Lack of support means no more or much less frequent security updates, so if a security flaw is found, it isnt going to get fixed.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Damn. Good thing I've just decided to deal with it instead of "fixing" it. Extra clicks to use 7zip to extract instead of the built in Windows one is killing me though.

LightHawKnight posted...

In the past 2 months since I upgraded, it only happened 3-4 times, so honestly still better than having to deal with the extra clicks. I still want to find the asshole who thought it was a great idea and shove a pole up his ass. Though I am someone who works with zips a lot.

Go to the Microsoft Store and download NanaZip. It's a fork of 7zip with full Windows 11 context menu support.

Windows 11 sucks, they fucked up right click, they're shoving AI into it, there's still all the old privacy concerns as well. Only reason to upgrade to it is that next year near the end of October Windows 10 is going to stop receiving security updates.

I'm pretty much ready to just fully switch to Linux at this point.

LightHawKnight posted...

Lack of support means no more or much less frequent security updates, so if a security flaw is found, it isnt going to get fixed.

So? I know I'm not really the millionth visitor, and I have my third party anti-malware stuff I keep up to date.

LightHawKnight posted...

Switched to Win 11 and why the fuck is everything hidden the god damn point of hiding my right click options?! I hate the new centered layout, switched to back to the left, wish the power options could be swapped.

There's a simple registry option to give you the old context menu back. Once I did that and changed the start button back to the old location, I pretty much forget I'm using 11.

That being said, I only use it on my laptop at the moment. I'm still on 10 with my gaming PC.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

So? I know I'm not really the millionth visitor, and I have my third party anti-malware stuff I keep up to date.

Stuff doesnt need you to click it to run on your PC

LightHawKnight posted...

In the past 2 months since I upgraded, it only happened 3-4 times, so honestly still better than having to deal with the extra clicks. I still want to find the asshole who thought it was a great idea and shove a pole up his ass. Though I am someone who works with zips a lot.

Ngl, it's a good idea. It's just executed terribly. Give me the ability to customize that shortened menu with the options I frequently use and I'd be all about it. Better than having a 25+ option context menu stretching most of the screen.

Trelve posted...

Go to the Microsoft Store and download NanaZip. It's a fork of 7zip with full Windows 11 context menu support.

Good to know but then I'd have to use the Microsoft Store.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

So? I know I'm not really the millionth visitor, and I have my third party anti-malware stuff I keep up to date.

Third party anti-malware isnt perfect and really is only a bandaid to the problem, but if you never visit shady sites, it really doesnt matter much.

Bass posted...

There's a simple registry option to give you the old context menu back. Once I did that and changed the start button back to the old location, I pretty much forget I'm using 11.

That being said, I only use it on my laptop at the moment. I'm still on 10 with my gaming PC.

I did make the registry change, still sucks ass that it randomly keeps happening.

I'm building a new PC this weekend and trying out Win11 for the first time

ofc I'll be de-bloating it, and Windows partition will just be for gaming, using Linux as my daily driver

Rika_Furude posted...

Stuff doesnt need you to click it to run on your PC

I guess I should really stop doing that thing where I use a specific example instead of making the general statement I'm trying to imply.

I really just do YouTube and programming questions and that's pretty much it. Only use my own thumb drives. Etc. I have my phone for general browsing. The same third party software I've been using for years.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Ngl, it's a good idea. It's just executed terribly. Give me the ability to customize that shortened menu with the options I frequently use and I'd be all about it. Better than having a 25+ option context menu stretching most of the screen.

Do people really have 25+ options for their right click? The utter lack of a lot of simple customizations is so stupid.

I still haven't even bothered to check if I have TPM 2.0 on my motherboard. Or CPU. Wherever it is.

RetuenOfDevsman posted...

I guess I should really stop doing that thing where I use a specific example instead of making the general statement I'm trying to imply.

I really just do YouTube and programming questions and that's pretty much it. Only use my own thumb drives. Etc. I have my phone for general browsing. The same third party software I've been using for years.

An antivirus isnt a replacement for OS updates so theres no example you can provide which works. Theres a reason people dont use XP just to watch videos anymore as well

Bass posted...

There's a simple registry option to give you the old context menu back. Once I did that and changed the start button back to the old location, I pretty much forget I'm using 11.

That being said, I only use it on my laptop at the moment. I'm still on 10 with my gaming PC.

I did the same thing but we really shouldn't have to do that.

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Ngl, it's a good idea. It's just executed terribly. Give me the ability to customize that shortened menu with the options I frequently use and I'd be all about it. Better than having a 25+ option context menu stretching most of the screen.

The problem is, rather than using it to make people's experience more convenient, Microsoft decided to use it to push their own products on people.

The file explorer infamously is slower than windows 10

teep_ posted...

Windows 10 is ending support in October next year.

Thank god. I'm sick of it forcing updates on my laptop that's too old for 11.

LightHawKnight posted...

Do people really have 25+ options for their right click? The utter lack of a lot of simple customizations is so stupid.

Certain software you install will add it's own options to the context menu without giving you a choice on the matter. It's not hard to accumulate 25+ items on that menu if you use your PC for more than just gaming and web browsing.

action52 posted...

The problem is, rather than using it to make people's experience more convenient, Microsoft decided to use it to push their own products on people.

So...like I said. The execution of the idea is the issue.

Windows 11 is garbage

BlazinBlue88 posted...

Certain software you install will add it's own options to the context menu without giving you a choice on the matter. It's not hard to accumulate 25+ items on that menu if you use your PC for more than just gaming and web browsing.

The solution wasn't to make the simplified context menu but rather to make it easier to edit the context menu.

It's 90% identical to 10 but that last 10% can be a deal breaker.

Been worth it since day one

BlazinBlue88 posted...

So...like I said. The execution of the idea is the issue.

I know, but just saying it like that doesn't get to the root of the problem well enough. Just saying the execution is poor makes it sound like they had this good idea that they didn't pull off right, but it should be good when they work out all the kinks.

But that's not what happened. From the beginning, this feature was created to help corral users into only using software made by the parent company, like how Apple likes to do with... everything. It's not just a good idea that could have done better, it's Microsoft taking their design philosophy in a very bad direction.

action52 posted...

I know, but just saying it like that doesn't get to the root of the problem well enough. Just saying the execution is poor makes it sound like they had this good idea that they didn't pull off right, but it should be good when they work out all the kinks.

But that's not what happened. From the beginning, this feature was created to help corral users into only using software made by the parent company, like how Apple likes to do with... everything. It's not just a good idea that could have done better, it's Microsoft taking their design philosophy in a very bad direction.

Oh I see the angle you're getting at and agree with the reasoning. From their standpoint and what they wanted to get from it, it's great. I was just talking about from customer usability.

teep_ posted...

Windows 10 is ending support in October next year. Do I wait until then?

I have a gaming PC and I understand it isn't (wasn't?) good for gaming

There's almost no difference between 10 & 11 except the start menu.

As far as my experience goes the right click is unintuitive and they're very aggressive with their ms-ecosystem stuff (no I don't want bing, OneDrive, a subscription to office365, Cortana, weird news updates, or anything. I want a computer that runs my stuff - emphasis on *my* stuff - without fuss)

Otherwise it's basically windows 10 with some of the settings abstracted

I am going to install Linux on my 11 year old computer with an i7-3770 later this year

Trumpo posted...

I am going to install Linux on my 11 year old computer with an i7-3770 later this year

Have an idea what distro you're thinking of going with?

My lower end laptop came with windows 11 and its not bad. My newer PC gave me the not eligible for upgrade and btw we end this shit October next year bye

I finally upgraded when I built my new PC last year, have had 0 issues with it for gaming, etc. Mine as well go ahead and upgrade if you haven't already.

I will probably go with Ubuntu or Mint

Trumpo posted...

I will probably go with Ubuntu or Mint

Yeah, those are probably the easiest distros to start with for sure. I use Ubuntu at work and was intending to go Mint when I make the switch at home.

I did a clean install to upgrade to it in the past week or two. The only real annoyance is the context menu, but other than that, its basically Windows 10 with a much better looking UI, WSL 2 support and a much better Terminal out of the box, etc. so Id say yes.

I actually think the extra padding makes the new context menu (and Win 1q in general) look nicer, and you can supposedly add items to the new context menu, but I havent needed to yet.

One thing I figured out is that in the new tabbed file explorer, you cant drag and drop from one tab to the other tab, at least not into the tab itself. You have to click and drag then hover over the tab until it switches tabs, then drag down into the folder area and you can drop there.

My only complaint, and it's a relatively minor one, is the taskbar being stuck on the bottom of the screen. I've always preferred having it on the left.