Current Events > Trump VS Biden Offical Debate Topic Part 3

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EPR-radar
06/27/24 11:30:19 PM
#351:


Euripides posted...
If a cold is enough to make you an incoherent, rambling mess, maybe you shouldn't be leader of the free world, just sayin'
That doesn't matter when the other candidate is a corrupt, criminal, rapist, racist, lying piece of shit Republican traitor like Trump.

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HighSeraph
06/27/24 11:30:46 PM
#352:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Every social media website on the internet. Every major news network. Literally every media outlet that exists.

They are ALL in agreement he did horrible.
That's not what you said tho

You said the general public.

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Humble_Novice
06/27/24 11:31:00 PM
#353:


HighSeraph posted...
Source?
He'll probably share one from any media outlet that's just itching for Biden and the Democrats to lose.
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Euripides
06/27/24 11:31:37 PM
#354:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
how about being a convicted felon?

What are you even arguing about? I'm not saying "yay Donald Trump!". Fuck Donald Trump. I'm saying there is a clear worry that Biden looked to be not up for the job

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WingsOfGood
06/27/24 11:31:37 PM
#355:


Did Trump at least talk about sharks and snakes?

You the snake and the snake when the snake
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EPR-radar
06/27/24 11:31:48 PM
#356:


Humble_Novice posted...
He'll probably share one from any media outlet that's just itching for Biden and the Democrats to lose.
Which is damn near all of them (not just Faux News/OANN/Newsmax).

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Euripides
06/27/24 11:32:35 PM
#358:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


You think a cold would've made Obama, Clinton, shit, GWB look like this?

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Heavy_D_Forever
06/27/24 11:33:18 PM
#361:


HighSeraph posted...
That's not what you said tho

You said the general public.
Does the overwhelming consensus across all the comments I'm seeing on verious social media platforms not count as the general public?

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CrimsonGear80
06/27/24 11:33:20 PM
#362:


Euripides posted...
What are you even arguing about? I'm not saying "yay Donald Trump!". Fuck Donald Trump. I'm saying there is a clear worry that Biden looked to be not up for the job

out of the two, who, when answering the questions, sounded like someone who could competently run this country. forget about how a voice or face looked, and answer that.

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ironman2009
06/27/24 11:33:37 PM
#363:


Kamala doing some good lifting for Joe on CNN.

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andel
06/27/24 11:33:44 PM
#364:


Necronmon posted...
The worst thing against Biden is him being seen as a decrypt man who's just there because" No one else deserves it more then me no matter what."

It just makes the bitterness to him surge.

Kennedy beat Nixon entirely because he looked better in the debate.

i said in the last 50 years. general election debates have become less and less important each cycle over the last couple generations. ultimately the issues will decide the election, and abortion has shown that republicans continue to lose ground in swing states.

the guy that is openly embracing anti choice extremism is only going to drive people to vote against him. being a convicted felon who still dedends 1/6 and openly calls for russia to wipe ukraine off the map isnt gaining support, and the people against trump will show up to vote against him

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CrimsonGear80
06/27/24 11:34:19 PM
#365:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Does the overwhelming consensus across all the comments I'm seeing on verious social media platforms not count as the general public?

"social media"

yeah all those X accounts that Elon lets run wild are totally fair in their assessments...

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WingsOfGood
06/27/24 11:35:00 PM
#366:


Kamala: It was a slow start that is obvious to everyone

she is on CNN right now
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Euripides
06/27/24 11:35:27 PM
#367:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Did you watch? I don't think you did. Biden completely short circuited a half a dozen times.

I'll vote for a bucket of rocks before I vote for Trump, and I'll vote for the corpse of Biden in November. I'm not changing MY vote.

But most voters are idiots who are going to now see soundbites and clips from this debate and either vote Trump or stay home

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andel
06/27/24 11:35:55 PM
#368:


Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Does the overwhelming consensus across all the comments I'm seeing on verious social media platforms not count as the general public?

wut? no, anecdotal examples of people on social media absolutely does not represent the general public

what does represent the general electorate are the people who have consistently shown up to vote against trump and his acolytes.

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DUKLegend
06/27/24 11:36:07 PM
#369:


Kamala also looking rough right now. Really, Newsom is the only interviewed tonight that was phenomenal. You can tell CNN wants him as a replacement.
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SilvosForever
06/27/24 11:36:44 PM
#370:


I'd take a literal skeleton in a coffin who nominates Democrat Supreme Court justices than whatever species of animal Trump is.

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mystic_belmont
06/27/24 11:36:52 PM
#371:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
out of the two, who, when answering the questions, sounded like someone who could competently run this country. forget about how a voice or face looked, and answer that.

Trump refused to answer questions.

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Heavy_D_Forever
06/27/24 11:36:58 PM
#372:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
"social media"

yeah all those X accounts that Elon lets run wild are totally fair in their assessments...
You can bury your head in the sand all you want.

If you care about Biden winning in November you need to realize tonight was a huge L and he needs to do soooo much better going forward.

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mystic_belmont
06/27/24 11:37:18 PM
#373:


DUKLegend posted...
Kamala also looking rough right now. Really, Newsom is the only interviewed tonight that was phenomenal. You can tell CNN wants him as a replacement.

CNN wants Trump back.

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Necronmon
06/27/24 11:38:44 PM
#374:


ultimately the issues will decide the election, and abortion has shown that republicans continue to lose ground in swing states.

Look...I want to say this is how it should be...but if that was what mattered Trump would have not won in the first place. I hate it but its become clear that so many in the country only care about " I like that he tells us what I'm thinking." We become a shallow nation of sound bites...and Biden did not give good sound bites.
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DUKLegend
06/27/24 11:38:49 PM
#375:


mystic_belmont posted...
CNN wants Trump back.

Maybe you're right lmao. They didn't run Newsom nearly as hard about this as Cooper did with Harris though
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ClayGuida
06/27/24 11:38:58 PM
#376:


mystic_belmont posted...
CNN wants Trump back.
Which is weird because their rating tanked under trump.

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andel
06/27/24 11:40:11 PM
#377:


Euripides posted...
Did you watch? I don't think you did. Biden completely short circuited a half a dozen times.

I'll vote for a bucket of rocks before I vote for Trump, and I'll vote for the corpse of Biden in November. I'm not changing MY vote.

But most voters are idiots who are going to now see soundbites and clips from this debate and either vote Trump or stay home

based on what exactly? all the results we have show the exact opposite. people vote against trump because they oppose anti choice extremism and they oppose trump in general.

it isnt a coincidence that basically every single trump backed candidate on the ballot in competitve places have lost since '20 (really started in '18). killing roe fucked the gop and trump was already toxic before that.

what we know for a fact is that people show up in huge numbers to vote against trump

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UnholyMudcrab
06/27/24 11:40:40 PM
#378:


Necronmon posted...
Look...I want to say this is how it should be...but if that was what mattered Trump would have not won in the first place. I hate it but its become clear that so many in the country only care about " I like that he tells us what I'm thinking." We become a shallow nation of sound bites...and Biden did not give good sound bites.
This may come as a surprise to you, but when Trump won in 2016, he hadn't had the chance to kill Roe v. Wade yet.

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voldothegr8
06/27/24 11:40:46 PM
#379:


ClayGuida posted...
Which is weird because their rating tanked under trump.
Bruh...

https://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-ratings-have-crashed-since-donald-trump-left-the-white-house-2021-3

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andel
06/27/24 11:44:24 PM
#380:


Necronmon posted...
Look...I want to say this is how it should be...but if that was what mattered Trump would have not won in the first place. I hate it but its become clear that so many in the country only care about " I like that he tells us what I'm thinking." We become a shallow nation of sound bites...and Biden did not give good sound bites.

people took for granted the right of choice. trump was cratering well before roe got killed by his scotus, but since then basically all the trump backed people have consistently lost in every competitive race. hell, trump couldnt even win the popular vote against hillary clinton and barely won the ec against her and since then he has massively bled support from everyone even remotely close to being an independent

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mybbqrules
06/27/24 11:44:26 PM
#381:


andel posted...
based on what exactly? all the results we have show the exact opposite. people vote against trump because they oppose anti choice extremism and they oppose trump in general.

it isnt a coincidence that basically every single trump backed candidate on the ballot in competitve places have lost since '20 (really started in '18). killing roe fucked the gop and trump was already toxic before that.

what we know for a fact is that people show up in huge numbers to vote against trump
This is true.

If there is one thing that Trump is inarguably good at, it's getting people to turn out and vote against him, and Roe being struck down didn't help that at all.

Also, reminder that America has literally never chosen Trump. Not once, even in 2016 when he "won" (actually he was handed the biggest participation trophy in history despite losing by 3 million votes)

Also also, let's not forget that this man's campaign strategy has been as follows, in order of importance.

1.) Bitch about 2020 incessantly (because if there's anything that will endear you to people, it's whining about old shit that has long since been proven untrue, like "widespread voter fraud")

2.) Claim he's the best at everything. (This is tied in to his self-fellating narcissism)

3) Lie and deflect (because the man is physically incapable of telling the truth about literally anything)

4) Blame democrats for things he was responsible for (because its worked for the last 40 years, why stop now?)

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Sonixs
06/27/24 11:46:16 PM
#382:


The fact that Trump is as close to a fascist dictator you can legally get to in America and people still want to vote for him, shows how dumb Americans are.
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Euripides
06/27/24 11:47:28 PM
#383:


CNN has the "false claims" score as 30 for Trump, 9 for Biden

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The_Wheelman1
06/27/24 11:47:39 PM
#384:


I wish Trump would just shut up

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Sonixs
06/27/24 11:49:46 PM
#385:


voldothegr8 posted...
Bruh...

https://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-ratings-have-crashed-since-donald-trump-left-the-white-house-2021-3

CNN has been trying so hard to please the MAGAs ever since Trump called them Fake News that they're not a serious network anymore.
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Charismic_Zach_Gowen
06/27/24 11:49:57 PM
#386:


Euripides posted...
CNN has the "false claims" score as 30 for Trump, 9 for Biden

Wow seems like something a moderator should bring up

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UnholyMudcrab
06/27/24 11:50:15 PM
#387:


The response so far just reminds me of the aftermath of the first debate in 2012. The media sensed an opportunity and started wailing and crying about how terribly Obama had done, and Romney jumped up several points in the polls for weeks afterwards. It's all in service of the horse race and getting more clicks.

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Kradek
06/27/24 11:52:15 PM
#388:


WingsOfGood posted...
That doesn't make sense as Trump didn't have enough votes to win last time

he 100% needs to gain voters

Biden could lose more voters than he lost by in 2020 in the swing states that decide the election. That's all that's really necessary.

UnholyMudcrab posted...
The response so far just reminds me of the aftermath of the first debate in 2012. The media sensed an opportunity and started wailing and crying about how terribly Obama had done, and Romney jumped up several points in the polls for weeks afterwards. It's all in service of the horse race and getting more clicks.

Yeah, I have heard someone repeatedly bring up how terribly Obama did in his first debate with Romney and we all saw how that turned out.

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darkace77450
06/27/24 11:54:02 PM
#389:


WingsOfGood posted...
Kamala: It was a slow start that is obvious to everyone

she is on CNN right now

"...but he finished strong."

Did he, though? I mean, sure, relative to the start, his finish was much stronger. But that's a pretty low bar to cross, isn't it?
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Cemith
06/27/24 11:54:42 PM
#390:


Didn't want the debate. Presumably went poorly because of course it did.

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Euripides
06/27/24 11:57:22 PM
#391:


darkace77450 posted...
"...but he finished strong."

Did he, though? I mean, sure, relative to the start, his finish was much stronger. But that's a pretty low bar to cross, isn't it?

I'm not going to be mad about her spinning this. She's not wrong that we shouldn't throw out all of these candidates' records in favor of a 90 minute debate.

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ClayGuida
06/27/24 11:57:28 PM
#392:


voldothegr8 posted...
Bruh...

https://www.businessinsider.com/cnn-ratings-have-crashed-since-donald-trump-left-the-white-house-2021-3

https://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2020/04/28/cnn-has-most-watched-month-in-15-years/

Their ratings were dogshit until covid hit.

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darkace77450
06/27/24 11:59:11 PM
#393:


Euripides posted...
I'm not going to be mad about her spinning this. She's not wrong that we shouldn't throw out all of these candidates' records in favor of a 90 minute debate.

She's doing what she has to do. That doesn't change the fact that sometimes you're trying to spin the unspinnable.
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voldothegr8
06/27/24 11:59:21 PM
#394:


ClayGuida posted...
https://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2020/04/28/cnn-has-most-watched-month-in-15-years/

Their ratings were dogshit until covid hit.
Correct, before cnn-ratings-have-crashed-since-donald-trump-left-the-white-house-2021

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andel
06/27/24 11:59:52 PM
#395:


darkace77450 posted...
"...but he finished strong."

Did he, though? I mean, sure, relative to the start, his finish was much stronger. But that's a pretty low bar to cross, isn't it?

he did better than trump in general but at the end especially he destroyed him. trump was brimming with impotent rage and kept saying insane shit that will be easy to parse into attack ads

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ClayGuida
06/28/24 12:03:24 AM
#396:


voldothegr8 posted...
Correct, before cnn-ratings-have-crashed-since-donald-trump-left-the-white-house-2021
Ignoring they were bad under trump until covid.

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DUKLegend
06/28/24 12:04:16 AM
#397:


Ouch at the CNN polls
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Sonixs
06/28/24 12:11:40 AM
#398:


https://twitter.com/bobvulfov/status/1806510691760714036?t=9dc94YTSZS94WRI_SuLrog&s=19
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Humble_Novice
06/28/24 12:20:45 AM
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darkace77450
06/28/24 12:20:57 AM
#400:


He [Biden] is missing his data, he doesnt have his numbers - an undecided voter from Michigan on why shes now voting for Trump

Trump ya know, the guy who definitely has his data and his numbers and isnt making shit up every time he opens his mouth.
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