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BaphometFlux 07/25/24 1:11:23 AM #1:	I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy,but I think history will consider his presidency as one of the better ones in American history. --- "The Future Rules!" <cite>BaphometFlux posted [p:981445870] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy,but I think history will consider his presidency as one of the better ones in American history.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 07/25/24 1:13:04 AM #3:	Prevented Trump in 2020. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:981445886] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Prevented Trump in 2020.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 07/25/24 1:16:31 AM #4:	Depends on the history books. Authors who really care about what's happening in Gaza will focus on that and reflect poorly on him. School textbooks likely won't mention the issue at all, so will likely remember him fondly unless it's Republicans writing the books. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:981445911] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Depends on the history books. Authors who really care about what's happening in Gaza will focus on that and reflect poorly on him. School textbooks likely won't mention the issue at all, so will likely remember him fondly unless it's Republicans writing the books.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 07/25/24 1:16:54 AM #5:	He'll most likely be remembered more as Obama's VP than anything else. Like, it'll be a footnote "Biden was later a one term president himself". --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:981445917] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>He'll most likely be remembered more as Obama's VP than anything else. Like, it'll be a footnote "Biden was later a one term president himself".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 07/25/24 1:17:43 AM #6:	The infrastructure act alone should make his presidency one of the better ones in American history. Having traveled overseas to Asia a couple of times recently, I have to say...US infrastructure is embarrassingly awful. And this is coming from someone who lives in a developed urban area. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:981445921] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>The infrastructure act alone should make his presidency one of the better ones in American history. Having traveled overseas to Asia a couple of times recently, I have to say...US infrastructure is embarrassingly awful. And this is coming from someone who lives in a developed urban area.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Diceheist 07/25/24 1:18:49 AM #7:	He'll be remembered as the guy who cleaned up the country post-covid. --- sigh <cite>Diceheist posted [p:981445927] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>He'll be remembered as the guy who cleaned up the country post-covid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrMolinaro 07/25/24 1:21:07 AM #8:	Kamala will have to win for his domestic achievements to be remembered at all. History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse. <cite>MrMolinaro posted [p:981445944] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Kamala will have to win for his domestic achievements to be remembered at all.History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 07/25/24 1:21:39 AM #9:	Hard to say right now because I think this depends on if the Biden into Kamala gambit succeeds. If it does, I imagine he'll be upper tier, but among many dogged presidents when it comes to a major foreign policy/moral failure with how badly the Israel/Gaza situation is. I think Obama was better at this point in time but the floor for modern presidents is the lowest it's been from the mid-late 1800s so that isn't saying much. Our modern median is much, much closer to people like Buchanan or Andrew Johnson than it is Lincoln too, so we haven't had an offset president like Lincoln or FDR that fundamentally changes the baseline for the better. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:981445947] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Hard to say right now because I think this depends on if the Biden into Kamala gambit succeeds. If it does, I imagine he'll be upper tier, but among many dogged presidents when it comes to a major foreign policy/moral failure with how badly the Israel/Gaza situation is. I think Obama was better at this point in time but the floor for modern presidents is the lowest it's been from the mid-late 1800s so that isn't saying much. Our modern median is much, much closer to people like Buchanan or Andrew Johnson than it is Lincoln too, so we haven't had an offset president like Lincoln or FDR that fundamentally changes the baseline for the better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 07/25/24 1:22:57 AM #10:	he has governed to the left of any president since fdr and has generally been really good. a lot of his policy has been blocked by the traitorous republican party and its activist/fraudulent judges, but he helped the nation heal after covid and brought the economy back from the brink after trump did such an awful job --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981445953] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>he has governed to the left of any president since fdr and has generally been really good. a lot of his policy has been blocked by the traitorous republican party and its activist/fraudulent judges, but he helped the nation heal after covid and brought the economy back from the brink after trump did such an awful job </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andel 07/25/24 1:25:07 AM #11:	MrMolinaro posted... Kamala will have to win for his domestic achievements to be remembered at all. History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse. biden has consistently defended ukraine which is objectively right both morally and strategically. his handling of israel has been in line with the voting public as a whole --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis <cite>andel posted [p:981445973] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>MrMolinaro posted... </cite><quote>Kamala will have to win for his domestic achievements to be remembered at all.History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse.</quote>biden has consistently defended ukraine which is objectively right both morally and strategically. his handling of israel has been in line with the voting public as a whole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/25/24 1:25:29 AM #12:	MrMolinaro posted... History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse. Huh? --- As the morning sun rises, my lingering memories fade. I no longer see your silhouette. It's too far gone into the haze. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:981445976] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>MrMolinaro posted... </cite><quote>History will not be kind to his handling of Gaza and Ukraine, particularly if Kamala loses and Trump makes those situations worse.</quote>Huh?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/25/24 1:29:35 AM #13:	Favorably. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:981445998] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Favorably. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 07/25/24 1:30:25 AM #14:	I'm not wholly convinced this whole decade is even going to be in history books beyond "These two were presidents and we don't talk about anything that happened during this period" like, "Yep, that sure was a pandemic that happened. ANYWAY HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED THREE PRESIDENTS LATER" --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:981446008] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>I'm not wholly convinced this whole decade is even going to be in history books beyond "These two were presidents and we don't talk about anything that happened during this period"like, "Yep, that sure was a pandemic that happened. ANYWAY HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED THREE PRESIDENTS LATER"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 07/25/24 1:30:31 AM #15:	buried beneath the weight of openly and excitedly funding a genocide --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:981446009] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>buried beneath the weight of openly and excitedly funding a genocide </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrMolinaro 07/25/24 1:40:01 AM #17:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Huh? The contrast between the two conflicts looks pretty bad. We put major restrictions on how Ukraine can use our weapons which prevent them from striking Russian targets and making any real gains while we put no restrictions on how Israel uses our weapons while they carry out a campaign of ethnic cleansing. <cite>MrMolinaro posted [p:981446076] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Huh?</quote>The contrast between the two conflicts looks pretty bad. We put major restrictions on how Ukraine can use our weapons which prevent them from striking Russian targets and making any real gains while we put no restrictions on how Israel uses our weapons while they carry out a campaign of ethnic cleansing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 07/25/24 1:42:21 AM #18:	MrMolinaro posted... The contrast between the two conflicts looks pretty bad. We put major restrictions on how Ukraine can use our weapons which prevent them from striking Russian targets and making any real gains while we put no restrictions on how Israel uses our weapons while they carry out a campaign of ethnic cleansing. The handling of Israel / Palestine by Biden has been utterly awful and wrong. No two ways about it. There is no justification for his actions on that matter. Ukraine though... yes, absolutely, he could have done so much better. But I wouldn't say he did terrible. I wouldn't even say he did bad. Heck, I would say he did a decent job. He could've done better, absolutely, but his faults in the Ukraine situation are absolute nothingburgers compared to his faults in the Israel/Palestine one. --- I fought the Trumble and the Trumble won. <cite>Trumble posted [p:981446088] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>MrMolinaro posted... </cite><quote>The contrast between the two conflicts looks pretty bad. We put major restrictions on how Ukraine can use our weapons which prevent them from striking Russian targets and making any real gains while we put no restrictions on how Israel uses our weapons while they carry out a campaign of ethnic cleansing.</quote>The handling of Israel / Palestine by Biden has been utterly awful and wrong. No two ways about it. There is no justification for his actions on that matter.Ukraine though... yes, absolutely, he could have done so much better. But I wouldn't say he did terrible. I wouldn't even say he did bad. Heck, I would say he did a decent job. He could've done better, absolutely, but his faults in the Ukraine situation are absolute nothingburgers compared to his faults in the Israel/Palestine one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 07/25/24 1:49:55 AM #19:	I don't know about how it'll be reflected in history books, but many people will remember him as the last fairly elected president in our history before the country fell to fascism, if Trump wins. --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:981446137] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>I don't know about how it'll be reflected in history books, but many people will remember him as the last fairly elected president in our history before the country fell to fascism, if Trump wins.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Voidgolem 07/25/24 1:57:59 AM #20:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're telling me you're expecting an american publisher to go more into detail than "these were the people in this election, also a pandemic happened and a lot of people died but it's not anyone's fault specifically a lot of things went wrong that nobody could've possibly predicted oooOOOooooOOO" You'll get a footnote on Jan 6th, maybe, assuming Trump loses. Probably a blurb on "rising civil unrest" that will take great pains to not mention anything specific (if police brutality is mentioned in any capacity, it will be the most painstakingly devoid of detail reference ever). Nothing on policies passed, maybe a blurb on the economy depending on if there's a major recession within a couple years. shrug --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:981446199] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You're telling me you're expecting an american publisher to go more into detail than "these were the people in this election, also a pandemic happened and a lot of people died but it's not anyone's fault specifically a lot of things went wrong that nobody could've possibly predicted oooOOOooooOOO"You'll get a footnote on Jan 6th, maybe, assuming Trump loses. Probably a blurb on "rising civil unrest" that will take great pains to not mention anything specific (if police brutality is mentioned in any capacity, it will be the most painstakingly devoid of detail reference ever). Nothing on policies passed, maybe a blurb on the economy depending on if there's a major recession within a couple years.shrug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 07/25/24 2:02:35 AM #21:	He got the ball rolling with student loan erasure. --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:981446229] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>He got the ball rolling with student loan erasure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
berlyman101 07/25/24 2:30:45 AM #22:	It really depends on how things go from here with Trump, the re-rise of populism/fascism, etc. He could be remembered very fondly but as far as analysts go, I think it will be notable for how (potentially) well he did on policy while getting raked in the polls. --- "They think it don't be like it is, but it do." -Oscar Gamble <cite>berlyman101 posted [p:981446437] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>It really depends on how things go from here with Trump, the re-rise of populism/fascism, etc. He could be remembered very fondly but as far as analysts go, I think it will be notable for how (potentially) well he did on policy while getting raked in the polls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuerrillaSoldier 07/25/24 2:34:47 AM #23:	'trump tried going for two terms but obama's old vice president got the win' --- Disclaimer: There's a good chance the above post could be sarcasm. Die-hard Oakland A's fan --- Keep the A's in Oakland! <cite>GuerrillaSoldier posted [p:981446477] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>'trump tried going for two terms but obama's old vice president got the win'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 07/25/24 2:36:15 AM #24:	BaphometFlux posted... I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy Uh no that is not a rational thought. Most US presidents don't get mentioned in history books because they aren't important. Bidens mention will likely only be in his role as Obamas VP since he was the first black president. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:981446486] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>BaphometFlux posted... </cite><quote>I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy</quote>Uh no that is not a rational thought. Most US presidents don't get mentioned in history books because they aren't important. Bidens mention will likely only be in his role as Obamas VP since he was the first black president. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 07/25/24 2:45:21 AM #25:	I very strongly doubt that history textbooks are going to call Biden out on his support of Israel --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:981446545] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>I very strongly doubt that history textbooks are going to call Biden out on his support of Israel</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Blur_ 07/25/24 2:50:25 AM #26:	Voidgolem posted... You're telling me you're expecting an american publisher to go more into detail than "these were the people in this election, also a pandemic happened and a lot of people died but it's not anyone's fault specifically a lot of things went wrong that nobody could've possibly predicted oooOOOooooOOO" You'll get a footnote on Jan 6th, maybe, assuming Trump loses. Probably a blurb on "rising civil unrest" that will take great pains to not mention anything specific (if police brutality is mentioned in any capacity, it will be the most painstakingly devoid of detail reference ever). Nothing on policies passed, maybe a blurb on the economy depending on if there's a major recession within a couple years. shrug I...don't think you know how books work. --- Welcome to your Divinity. <cite>_Blur_ posted [p:981446579] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Voidgolem posted... </cite><quote>You're telling me you're expecting an american publisher to go more into detail than "these were the people in this election, also a pandemic happened and a lot of people died but it's not anyone's fault specifically a lot of things went wrong that nobody could've possibly predicted oooOOOooooOOO"You'll get a footnote on Jan 6th, maybe, assuming Trump loses. Probably a blurb on "rising civil unrest" that will take great pains to not mention anything specific (if police brutality is mentioned in any capacity, it will be the most painstakingly devoid of detail reference ever). Nothing on policies passed, maybe a blurb on the economy depending on if there's a major recession within a couple years.shrug</quote>I...don't think you know how books work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
R1masher 07/25/24 2:54:30 AM #27:	winners write the history books and rewrite them --- R1R1R1R1R1R1 <cite>R1masher posted [p:981446611] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>winners write the history books and rewrite them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 07/25/24 2:56:54 AM #28:	Uneventful. Which to be fair is partially why he was picked in the first place. Biden has always been a status-quo champion. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:981446627] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Uneventful. Which to be fair is partially why he was picked in the first place.Biden has always been a status-quo champion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 07/25/24 3:02:02 AM #29:	BaphometFlux posted... "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:981446673] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>BaphometFlux posted... </cite><quote>"Genocide Joe" will be his legacy</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BaphometFlux 07/25/24 3:07:34 AM #30:	^ I disagree --- "The Future Rules!" <cite>BaphometFlux posted [p:981446720] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>^ I disagree </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 07/25/24 3:42:00 AM #31:	SuperShake666 posted... Prevented Trump in 2020. Biden is one of the few presidents who literally gets to put "saved the country" on his resume. He may even get to do it twice. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:981446917] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted... </cite><quote>Prevented Trump in 2020.</quote>Biden is one of the few presidents who literally gets to put "saved the country" on his resume. He may even get to do it twice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 07/25/24 4:07:29 AM #32:	andel posted... his handling of israel has been in line with the voting public as a whole Bullshit. Only 36% of voters approved Israel's actions, and most of them are republicans --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:981447049] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>andel posted... </cite><quote>his handling of israel has been in line with the voting public as a whole</quote>Bullshit.Only 36% of voters approved Israel's actions, and most of them are republicans </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 07/25/24 5:15:15 AM #34:	Bernie claims he is the most progressive president since FDR so that is pretty huge. I also agree with this factor, he also is one of the few Presidents to recognize he might not be able mentally to have a second term and intentionally be a one term president. So yeah Biden was good the only black mark I think anyone can give him looking at the actual facts is his handling of Israel. Everything else is decent to great, and he tried to do even more but was blocked things like student loan forgiveness and some other progressive policies. --- Getting too damn old for this crap! <cite>Monopoman posted [p:981447306] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Bernie claims he is the most progressive president since FDR so that is pretty huge. I also agree with this factor, he also is one of the few Presidents to recognize he might not be able mentally to have a second term and intentionally be a one term president.So yeah Biden was good the only black mark I think anyone can give him looking at the actual facts is his handling of Israel. Everything else is decent to great, and he tried to do even more but was blocked things like student loan forgiveness and some other progressive policies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DUKLegend 07/25/24 5:21:30 AM #35:	World events are typically the most memorable thing when looking back in history, and a decade or more from now, the events between Israel and Palestine will be looked at as far more horrifying than people view it right now. Biden's role in that will be his legacy. <cite>DUKLegend posted [p:981447331] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>World events are typically the most memorable thing when looking back in history, and a decade or more from now, the events between Israel and Palestine will be looked at as far more horrifying than people view it right now. Biden's role in that will be his legacy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monopoman 07/25/24 5:26:20 AM #36:	DUKLegend posted... World events are typically the most memorable thing when looking back in history, and a decade or more from now, the events between Israel and Palestine will be looked at as far more horrifying than people view it right now. Biden's role in that will be his legacy. It's a bit weird to blame him for that like it was all his fault when this shit has been going on for what 60 years? This is like if we had a 40 year war raging in some part of America, and then any President automatically gets the blame for it when they are elected. The Israel Palestine thing will be going on for another 100 years the way it's going now, there is no solution period. --- Getting too damn old for this crap! <cite>Monopoman posted [p:981447349] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>DUKLegend posted... </cite><quote>World events are typically the most memorable thing when looking back in history, and a decade or more from now, the events between Israel and Palestine will be looked at as far more horrifying than people view it right now. Biden's role in that will be his legacy.</quote>It's a bit weird to blame him for that like it was all his fault when this shit has been going on for what 60 years? This is like if we had a 40 year war raging in some part of America, and then any President automatically gets the blame for it when they are elected.The Israel Palestine thing will be going on for another 100 years the way it's going now, there is no solution period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thanatos_the_Great 07/25/24 6:49:28 AM #37:	Monopoman posted... the only black mark I think anyone can give him looking at the actual facts is his handling of Israel. That's a very bloody huge black mark. Monopoman posted... The Israel Palestine thing will be going on for another 100 years If the US keeps arming and funding Israel's war crimes, yes. --- Re-open board 261. <cite>Thanatos_the_Great posted [p:981447756] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>the only black mark I think anyone can give him looking at the actual facts is his handling of Israel.</quote>That's a very bloody huge black mark.Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>The Israel Palestine thing will be going on for another 100 years</quote>If the US keeps arming and funding Israel's war crimes, yes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/25/24 7:08:21 AM #38:	He's the best president since Johnson, with a similarly atrocious foreign policy on his hands. Also, I think his legacy is dependent on Harris winning. There will be a lot of scrutiny of the things he could have done but didn't if Trump takes power again. --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:981447866] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>He's the best president since Johnson, with a similarly atrocious foreign policy on his hands. Also, I think his legacy is dependent on Harris winning. There will be a lot of scrutiny of the things he could have done but didn't if Trump takes power again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheShadowViper 07/25/24 7:31:13 AM #39:	Monopoman posted... Bernie claims he is the most progressive president since FDR That is not what Bernie said. Sen. Bernie Sanders said Joe Biden told him that he believes he can become the most progressive president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The reason I say that I think Biden has a chance to be the most progressive president since FDR is that is exactly what Joe Biden said to me, Sanders, a former presidential candidate, said in an interview Wednesday on PBS Amanpour & Company. https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/sanders-biden-could-be-most-progressive-president-since-fdr/ He said he "could be", emphasis on the future, as this was also said back in 2020. <cite>TheShadowViper posted [p:981447992] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Monopoman posted... </cite><quote>Bernie claims he is the most progressive president since FDR</quote>That is not what Bernie said.<quote>Sen. Bernie Sanders said Joe Biden told him that he believes he can become the most progressive president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt.The reason I say that I think Biden has a chance to be the most progressive president since FDR is that is exactly what Joe Biden said to me, Sanders, a former presidential candidate, said in an interview Wednesday on PBS Amanpour & Company.</quote>https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/sanders-biden-could-be-most-progressive-president-since-fdr/He said he "could be", emphasis on the future, as this was also said back in 2020. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
K181 07/25/24 7:36:17 AM #40:	I genuinely think that, while his age will be brought up, future historians will be confused as to why Biden was never popular. --- Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less. <cite>K181 posted [p:981448027] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>I genuinely think that, while his age will be brought up, future historians will be confused as to why Biden was never popular.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/25/24 8:11:21 AM #41:	UnholyMudcrab posted... I very strongly doubt that history textbooks are going to call Biden out on his support of Israel Yeah. It's just kind of standard US policy at this point. He won't be looked at any differently in that regard. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:981448240] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>I very strongly doubt that history textbooks are going to call Biden out on his support of Israel</quote>Yeah. It's just kind of standard US policy at this point. He won't be looked at any differently in that regard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dummy420 07/25/24 8:21:00 AM #42:	Personally I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime. He did some good things like his response to the Ukraine war. He was forced into position as not Trump and I will always see him as a selfish POS for waiting until just before the election to finally realize he wasn't in presidential shape. The response to Kamala being so well supported doesn't change the fact that Joe created a potentially disastrous positin. History books I think he will be relatively forgotten outside of unique facts like he dropped out of his reelection campaign the latest of any candidate. --- Trying is the first step towards failure, so just dont give it a shot and you cant dissapoint. <cite>dummy420 posted [p:981448328] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Personally I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime. He did some good things like his response to the Ukraine war. He was forced into position as not Trump and I will always see him as a selfish POS for waiting until just before the election to finally realize he wasn't in presidential shape. The response to Kamala being so well supported doesn't change the fact that Joe created a potentially disastrous positin.History books I think he will be relatively forgotten outside of unique facts like he dropped out of his reelection campaign the latest of any candidate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 07/25/24 8:36:32 AM #43:	dummy420 posted... I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime. How --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:981448454] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>dummy420 posted... </cite><quote>I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime.</quote>How</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vegy 07/25/24 8:39:03 AM #44:	He stopped trump in 2020 and is helping stop him in 2024, a true hero tbh --- https://i.imgur.com/EoGWPMu.gif https://i.imgur.com/xpoEaeu.gif <cite>Vegy posted [p:981448494] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>He stopped trump in 2020 and is helping stop him in 2024, a true hero tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaxEffingBemis 07/25/24 8:40:04 AM #45:	SuperShake666 posted... Prevented Trump in 2020. Diceheist posted... He'll be remembered as the guy who cleaned up the country post-covid. BaphometFlux posted... I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy,but I think history will consider his presidency as one of the better ones in American history. I think itll be these. Plus also being old as shit --- She took pity on me, horizontally, but most likely because of my band <cite>MaxEffingBemis posted [p:981448501] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted... </cite><quote>Prevented Trump in 2020.</quote>Diceheist posted... </cite><quote>He'll be remembered as the guy who cleaned up the country post-covid.</quote>BaphometFlux posted... </cite><quote>I know some might say "Genocide Joe" will be his legacy,but I think history will consider his presidency as one of the better ones in American history.</quote>I think itll be these. Plus also being old as shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/25/24 9:01:41 AM #46:	TheShadowViper posted... He said he "could be", emphasis on the future, as this was also said back in 2020. Do you think he's met that threshold? Even if he got blocked on most student loans, he's still forgiven millions in debt. CHIPS act to bring American tech and manufacturing back. First president to stand with a striking union. His infrastructure bill. Reducing childhood hunger and poverty to the lowest in a lifetime. Infrastructure and the strongest gun legislation since the 90s AWB. Since 2020, he's been... remarkably progressive. And his covid recovery, impressive. When was the last time we had a public health crisis solved through a socialized needles in arms program? The 191 (7?) flu? Polio? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981448715] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>TheShadowViper posted... </cite><quote>He said he "could be", emphasis on the future, as this was also said back in 2020.</quote>Do you think he's met that threshold? Even if he got blocked on most student loans, he's still forgiven millions in debt. CHIPS act to bring American tech and manufacturing back. First president to stand with a striking union. His infrastructure bill. Reducing childhood hunger and poverty to the lowest in a lifetime. Infrastructure and the strongest gun legislation since the 90s AWB.Since 2020, he's been... remarkably progressive. And his covid recovery, impressive. When was the last time we had a public health crisis solved through a socialized needles in arms program? The 191 (7?) flu? Polio?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 07/25/24 9:09:37 AM #47:	DnDer posted... Do you think he's met that threshold? Even if he got blocked on most student loans, he's still forgiven millions in debt. CHIPS act to bring American tech and manufacturing back. First president to stand with a striking union. His infrastructure bill. Reducing childhood hunger and poverty to the lowest in a lifetime. Infrastructure and the strongest gun legislation since the 90s AWB. Since 2020, he's been... remarkably progressive. And his covid recovery, impressive. When was the last time we had a public health crisis solved through a socialized needles in arms program? The 191 (7?) flu? Polio? Stock market is the highest it's ever been and unemployment is really low. History books love that shit. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:981448779] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Do you think he's met that threshold? Even if he got blocked on most student loans, he's still forgiven millions in debt. CHIPS act to bring American tech and manufacturing back. First president to stand with a striking union. His infrastructure bill. Reducing childhood hunger and poverty to the lowest in a lifetime. Infrastructure and the strongest gun legislation since the 90s AWB.Since 2020, he's been... remarkably progressive. And his covid recovery, impressive. When was the last time we had a public health crisis solved through a socialized needles in arms program? The 191 (7?) flu? Polio?</quote>Stock market is the highest it's ever been and unemployment is really low. History books love that shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 07/25/24 9:29:31 AM #48:	Heineken14 posted... Stock market is the highest it's ever been and unemployment is really low. History books love that shit. Good economic flags aren't always progressive flags. I was trying to keep it to just Bernie style bonda fides to see if he hit "most progressive" since expressing that desire in 2020. But good markets are always something good to rub in conservative faces, too. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:981448992] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>Stock market is the highest it's ever been and unemployment is really low. History books love that shit.</quote>Good economic flags aren't always progressive flags. I was trying to keep it to just Bernie style bonda fides to see if he hit "most progressive" since expressing that desire in 2020.But good markets are always something good to rub in conservative faces, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 07/25/24 9:33:08 AM #49:	Depends on how far into the future you're talking about. While the current generations are still alive, he'll be remember for more detailed reasons, but if we're talking 40-50 years from now when all of the boomers and GenXers are gone, and most Millennials are in their swan song, he'll most likely be a footnote, or at most, the President that helped the US recover post-Covid. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:981449031] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Depends on how far into the future you're talking about.While the current generations are still alive, he'll be remember for more detailed reasons, but if we're talking 40-50 years from now when all of the boomers and GenXers are gone, and most Millennials are in their swan song, he'll most likely be a footnote, or at most, the President that helped the US recover post-Covid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 07/25/24 9:34:34 AM #50:	dummy420 posted... Personally I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime. He did some good things like his response to the Ukraine war. He was forced into position as not Trump and I will always see him as a selfish POS for waiting until just before the election to finally realize he wasn't in presidential shape. The response to Kamala being so well supported doesn't change the fact that Joe created a potentially disastrous positin. History books I think he will be relatively forgotten outside of unique facts like he dropped out of his reelection campaign the latest of any candidate. When the other options are Obama and Clinton, who led two of the biggest post-depression economic recoveries, it was a pretty high bar for him to clear. --- You gotta laugh. That is the one thing at the end of your life you will not wish you did less of. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:981449046] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>dummy420 posted... </cite><quote>Personally I view him as the worst Democrat president in my lifetime. He did some good things like his response to the Ukraine war. He was forced into position as not Trump and I will always see him as a selfish POS for waiting until just before the election to finally realize he wasn't in presidential shape. The response to Kamala being so well supported doesn't change the fact that Joe created a potentially disastrous positin.History books I think he will be relatively forgotten outside of unique facts like he dropped out of his reelection campaign the latest of any candidate.</quote>When the other options are Obama and Clinton, who led two of the biggest post-depression economic recoveries, it was a pretty high bar for him to clear.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dummy420 07/25/24 9:38:15 AM #51:	Antifar posted... How Because his only accomplishment is not Trump. He continued to stay in power and attempt to maintain it when he wasnt fit. Its not just a Biden old thing. If your old and capable ok. But he represents the country and bumbling and forgetting basic stuff is simply unacceptable. His two competitors are Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. He for sure is not above either of those in my view. Your view may be different. --- Trying is the first step towards failure, so just dont give it a shot and you cant dissapoint. <cite>dummy420 posted [p:981449082] in How do you... [t:80816430]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite><quote>How</quote>Because his only accomplishment is not Trump. He continued to stay in power and attempt to maintain it when he wasnt fit. Its not just a Biden old thing. If your old and capable ok. But he represents the country and bumbling and forgetting basic stuff is simply unacceptable. His two competitors are Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. He for sure is not above either of those in my view. Your view may be different.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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