Palestina War XX - Bye bye Def Minister Gallant, Hello Def Minister Katz

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Tyranthraxus 11/22/24 3:52:00 PM #102:	It won't amount to shit, but I just thought I'd post that both Georgia senators voted against sending more weapons to Israel. Ossof is up for reelection in 2026. I hope we can send him back. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:983042071] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>It won't amount to shit, but I just thought I'd post that both Georgia senators voted against sending more weapons to Israel. Ossof is up for reelection in 2026. I hope we can send him back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CountCorvinus 11/22/24 3:58:19 PM #103:	Personally, I think it's wrong for countries to announce that they're going to arrest Netanyahu and Gallant. Don't fucking warn them. If it were in charge, I'd be like "Hey, Bibi you're the lucky winner of two free superbowl tickets. We're gonna need you to come pick them up" --- "You don't want to see me when I'm hungry." (THEY/THEM) <cite>CountCorvinus posted [p:983042132] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Personally, I think it's wrong for countries to announce that they're going to arrest Netanyahu and Gallant.Don't fucking warn them. If it were in charge, I'd be like "Hey, Bibi you're the lucky winner of two free superbowl tickets. We're gonna need you to come pick them up" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 11/22/24 4:10:12 PM #104:	CountCorvinus posted... Personally, I think it's wrong for countries to announce that they're going to arrest Netanyahu and Gallant. Don't fucking warn them. If it were in charge, I'd be like "Hey, Bibi you're the lucky winner of two free superbowl tickets. We're gonna need you to come pick them up" And it's a very good thing you're not, since this is a great way for a court to toss a case --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:983042255] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>CountCorvinus posted... </cite><quote>Personally, I think it's wrong for countries to announce that they're going to arrest Netanyahu and Gallant.Don't fucking warn them. If it were in charge, I'd be like "Hey, Bibi you're the lucky winner of two free superbowl tickets. We're gonna need you to come pick them up"</quote>And it's a very good thing you're not, since this is a great way for a court to toss a case</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/22/24 4:27:42 PM #105:	Hungary pretty much said "Fuck the ICC, I'm inviting Bibi later today and I promise that we will not arrest him!" --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:983042410] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hungary pretty much said "Fuck the ICC, I'm inviting Bibi later today and I promise that we will not arrest him!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 11/22/24 5:42:49 PM #106:	The apartheid intensifies. https://www.timesofisrael.com/coalition-lauds-end-of-administrative-detention-for-settlers-opposition-its-dangerous/ Defense Minister Israel Katzs decision to end the use of administrative detention against Israeli settlers who are suspected of carrying out violence in the West Bank was welcomed Friday by right-wing politicians as the end of a draconian and unjust practice against law-abiding citizens, as opposition lawmakers decried it as dangerous and approval for Jewish terror. Katzs announcement means Israel will now be using the controversial policy of administrative detention, the holding of suspects without charge or trial, solely against Palestinian terror suspects. The measure sees individuals held without charge for up to six months at a time. The detentions can be renewed indefinitely while allowing military prosecutors to keep suspects from being able to see the evidence against them. While the practice is primarily deployed against Palestinians, it was also used against some extremist Jewish Israelis, which has drawn increasing criticism of the ruling Likud party by far-right coalition members. A bill sponsored by Rothman which would forbid the use of administrative detention or administrative restraining orders against Israeli citizens, unless they are members of a certain list of terror groups is currently making its way through the Knesset. The bill I submitted was intended to clarify exactly the basic values of the State of Israel and the necessary distinction between an enemy and a supporter, he tweeted. Okay, so what do you call the far right terrorists who broke into a military base because one of their own was arrested by Shin Bet officers wearing ski masks? What about the Ultra-Orthodox Hassidic rioters who throw rocks at and assault police and IDF officers (and never get shot for it) because they are furious about the possibility of being drafted? How about the violent settlers who attack Israeli activists, including Jewish ones, for filming them? That said, and I shouldn't need to clarify my stance, but this administrative detention shouldn't even exist -- not for Israelis, Palestinians, or even foreigners. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:983043239] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>The apartheid intensifies.https://www.timesofisrael.com/coalition-lauds-end-of-administrative-detention-for-settlers-opposition-its-dangerous/<quote>Defense Minister Israel Katzs decision to end the use of administrative detention against Israeli settlers who are suspected of carrying out violence in the West Bank was welcomed Friday by right-wing politicians as the end of a draconian and unjust practice against law-abiding citizens, as opposition lawmakers decried it as dangerous and approval for Jewish terror.Katzs announcement means Israel will now be using the controversial policy of administrative detention, the holding of suspects without charge or trial, solely against Palestinian terror suspects. The measure sees individuals held without charge for up to six months at a time. The detentions can be renewed indefinitely while allowing military prosecutors to keep suspects from being able to see the evidence against them.While the practice is primarily deployed against Palestinians, it was also used against some extremist Jewish Israelis, which has drawn increasing criticism of the ruling Likud party by far-right coalition members.A bill sponsored by Rothman which would forbid the use of administrative detention or administrative restraining orders against Israeli citizens, unless they are members of a certain list of terror groups is currently making its way through the Knesset.The bill I submitted was intended to clarify exactly the basic values of the State of Israel and the necessary distinction between an enemy and a supporter, he tweeted.</quote>Okay, so what do you call the far right terrorists who broke into a military base because one of their own was arrested by Shin Bet officers wearing ski masks?What about the Ultra-Orthodox Hassidic rioters who throw rocks at and assault police and IDF officers (and never get shot for it) because they are furious about the possibility of being drafted? How about the violent settlers who attack Israeli activists, including Jewish ones, for filming them?That said, and I shouldn't need to clarify my stance, but this administrative detention shouldn't even exist -- not for Israelis, Palestinians, or even foreigners.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hyena_Of_Ice 11/22/24 5:46:20 PM #107:	LightSnake posted... And it's a very good thing you're not, since this is a great way for a court to toss a case Yeah, seriously. Plus it's a good way to keep them from visiting your country at all. In order to arrest Bibi, you still have to permit him to enter your country. Democratic countries shouldn't allow any war criminals to step foot on their soil, ICC arrest warrant or no. But alas, not a single nation has such principles. <cite>Hyena_Of_Ice posted [p:983043276] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>And it's a very good thing you're not, since this is a great way for a court to toss a case</quote>Yeah, seriously. Plus it's a good way to keep them from visiting your country at all. In order to arrest Bibi, you still have to permit him to enter your country. Democratic countries shouldn't allow any war criminals to step foot on their soil, ICC arrest warrant or no. But alas, not a single nation has such principles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 11/22/24 5:53:45 PM #108:	Hyena_Of_Ice posted... Yeah, seriously. Plus it's a good way to keep them from visiting your country at all. In order to arrest Bibi, you still have to permit him to enter your country. Democratic countries shouldn't allow any war criminals to step foot on their soil, ICC arrest warrant or no. But alas, not a single nation has such principles. One of the biggest issues of the ICC is how goddamn hard jurisdiction is already. There's a not-invalid complaint that the majority of prosecution are just African nations, because they tend to be some of the few who turn their war criminals over to the ICC. Which sucks because it really does establish they only hold much power over poor, Black nations. For this to happen in Israel, you'd probaby need a coup against Netanyahu and for the incoming government to see him extradited. Which is just not gonna happen. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:983043371] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hyena_Of_Ice posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, seriously. Plus it's a good way to keep them from visiting your country at all. In order to arrest Bibi, you still have to permit him to enter your country. Democratic countries shouldn't allow any war criminals to step foot on their soil, ICC arrest warrant or no. But alas, not a single nation has such principles.</quote>One of the biggest issues of the ICC is how goddamn hard jurisdiction is already. There's a not-invalid complaint that the majority of prosecution are just African nations, because they tend to be some of the few who turn their war criminals over to the ICC.Which sucks because it really does establish they only hold much power over poor, Black nations. For this to happen in Israel, you'd probaby need a coup against Netanyahu and for the incoming government to see him extradited. Which is just not gonna happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 11/22/24 7:29:14 PM #109:	A great interview with UNRWA director: https://time.com/7178297/philippe-lazzarini-unwra-interview/ --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:983044357] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>A great interview with UNRWA director:https://time.com/7178297/philippe-lazzarini-unwra-interview/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/23/24 11:30:46 AM #110:	Hamas claims that they finally got contact with a group of hostage holders in Northern Gaza, and a female hostage got killed by an Israeli attack some weeks ago. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:983050720] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hamas claims that they finally got contact with a group of hostage holders in Northern Gaza, and a female hostage got killed by an Israeli attack some weeks ago. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 11/24/24 5:17:14 PM #111:	Oh hey AlJazeera was the litmus test for Israel. Now they are going after Haaretz. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:983064931] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Oh hey AlJazeera was the litmus test for Israel. Now they are going after Haaretz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/25/24 8:12:04 AM #112:	https://x.com/PeruginiNic/status/1860942140236304724 The WaPo editorial board sets the record straight --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983071378] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>https://x.com/PeruginiNic/status/1860942140236304724The WaPo editorial board sets the record straight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/25/24 8:48:47 AM #113:	TheFuzz3451 posted... The WaPo editorial board sets the record straight The WaPo editorial board sets a new standard for shitty op-eds. This is NYT opinion page level bullshit. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:983071648] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>TheFuzz3451 posted... </cite><quote>The WaPo editorial board sets the record straight</quote>The WaPo editorial board sets a new standard for shitty op-eds.This is NYT opinion page level bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/25/24 8:48:58 AM #114:	The article at one point mentions Israel's "vibrant, independent media" as an alternative venue for "holding Israel accountable". Which I found very silly given Netenyahu is now cracking down on Haaretz. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983071653] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>The article at one point mentions Israel's "vibrant, independent media" as an alternative venue for "holding Israel accountable". Which I found very silly given Netenyahu is now cracking down on Haaretz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 11/25/24 10:27:27 PM #115:	I argue that oped is a humanitarian act because laughing at vibrant, independent media lightened my mood so much. Vibrant? Independent? --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:983080286] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>I argue that oped is a humanitarian act because laughing at<quote>vibrant, independent media</quote>lightened my mood so much.Vibrant? Independent?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 11/26/24 6:51:55 AM #116:	TheFuzz3451 posted... They invented a new unit of measurement to describe it: 9/11s. October 7th was apparently 15 9/11s. I wonder how many 9/11s the current genocide in Gaza is? I guess it depends if you use the dramatically undercounted "official" number of ~43,000 or one of the estimates from Lancet (for example) which have the death toll into six figures. Someone actually did calculate this months ago and said that if October 7 was 15 9/11s then Israel's killing in Gaza was the equivalent of 900+ 9/11s. It was like the equivalent of one 9/11 every 5 days in Gaza for about 6 months. That was ages ago so I don't know what the number would be now. --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~ <cite>conduit posted [p:983082824] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>TheFuzz3451 posted... </cite><quote>They invented a new unit of measurement to describe it: 9/11s. October 7th was apparently 15 9/11s.I wonder how many 9/11s the current genocide in Gaza is? I guess it depends if you use the dramatically undercounted "official" number of ~43,000 or one of the estimates from Lancet (for example) which have the death toll into six figures.</quote>Someone actually did calculate this months ago and said that if October 7 was 15 9/11s then Israel's killing in Gaza was the equivalent of 900+ 9/11s. It was like the equivalent of one 9/11 every 5 days in Gaza for about 6 months. That was ages ago so I don't know what the number would be now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 11/26/24 2:32:50 PM #117:	Ceasefire with Lebanon seems to be close: Netanyahu says he is ready to implement Israel-Lebanon ceasefire Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday he was ready to implement a ceasefire deal with Lebanon and would respond forcefully to any violation by Hezbollah, declaring Israel would retain "complete military freedom of action". In a television address, Netanyahu said he would put the ceasefire accord to his full cabinet later in the evening. Israeli TV reported that the more restricted security cabinet had earlier approved the deal. The accord, clearing the way for an end to a conflict that has killed thousands of people since it was ignited by the Gaza war last year, was expected to take effect on Wednesday. More in link: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-poised-approve-ceasefire-with-hezbollah-israeli-official-says-2024-11-26/ --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:983086815] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Ceasefire with Lebanon seems to be close:<quote>Netanyahu says he is ready to implement Israel-Lebanon ceasefireIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Tuesday he was ready to implement a ceasefire deal with Lebanon and would respond forcefully to any violation by Hezbollah, declaring Israel would retain "complete military freedom of action".In a television address, Netanyahu said he would put the ceasefire accord to his full cabinet later in the evening. Israeli TV reported that the more restricted security cabinet had earlier approved the deal.The accord, clearing the way for an end to a conflict that has killed thousands of people since it was ignited by the Gaza war last year, was expected to take effect on Wednesday.</quote>More in link:https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-poised-approve-ceasefire-with-hezbollah-israeli-official-says-2024-11-26/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 11/26/24 2:35:43 PM #118:	Hornezz posted... Ceasefire with Lebanon seems to be close: More in link: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-poised-approve-ceasefire-with-hezbollah-israeli-official-says-2024-11-26/ I'd believe this is a path to a false flag operation in order to gain more international support than a true desire for a ceasefire. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:983086852] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>Ceasefire with Lebanon seems to be close:More in link:https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-poised-approve-ceasefire-with-hezbollah-israeli-official-says-2024-11-26/</quote>I'd believe this is a path to a false flag operation in order to gain more international support than a true desire for a ceasefire.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 11/26/24 2:55:57 PM #119:	Apparently the Israeli cabinet has approved the ceasefire and it'll go into effect soon --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:983087077] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Apparently the Israeli cabinet has approved the ceasefire and it'll go into effect soon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/26/24 2:57:06 PM #120:	"In full coordination with the United States, we retain complete military freedom of action. Should Hezbollah violate the agreement or attempt to rearm, we will strike decisively." Idk this seems vague. I'd want to see the full terms. Will this actually leads to a cessation of hostilities along the Israel/Lebanon border? Or will it return to pre-October status quo where both sides are firing at each other and the IDF just withdraws ground troops? A number of questions here. And of course, most notably, none of this pertains to Gaza, where the genocide continues without interruption. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983087093] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote><quote>"In full coordination with the United States, we retain complete military freedom of action. Should Hezbollah violate the agreement or attempt to rearm, we will strike decisively."</quote>Idk this seems vague. I'd want to see the full terms. Will this actually leads to a cessation of hostilities along the Israel/Lebanon border? Or will it return to pre-October status quo where both sides are firing at each other and the IDF just withdraws ground troops? A number of questions here.And of course, most notably, none of this pertains to Gaza, where the genocide continues without interruption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/26/24 2:57:23 PM #121:	Bibi wants to concentrate on Gaza and Iran. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:983087096] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Bibi wants to concentrate on Gaza and Iran. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/26/24 3:02:20 PM #123:	https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861481153493921820 It does not appear Hezbollah has agreed to ceasefire yet. A ceasefire isn't just something one side of a conflict can unilaterally declare. If Netenyahu is framing this as a done deal then: Sandalorn posted... I'd believe this is a path to a false flag operation in order to gain more international support than a true desire for a ceasefire. Decent chance of this yeah --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983087159] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>https://x.com/jeremyscahill/status/1861481153493921820It does not appear Hezbollah has agreed to ceasefire yet. A ceasefire isn't just something one side of a conflict can unilaterally declare.If Netenyahu is framing this as a done deal then:Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>I'd believe this is a path to a false flag operation in order to gain more international support than a true desire for a ceasefire.</quote>Decent chance of this yeah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/26/24 3:43:56 PM #124:	At best, it's the kind of ceasefire Russia tries to get, where they buy themself time to prepare for another attack later on. Never trust Israel. --- Warning: This post contains Trumbles known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. <cite>Trumble posted [p:983087608] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>At best, it's the kind of ceasefire Russia tries to get, where they buy themself time to prepare for another attack later on.Never trust Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/26/24 8:06:07 PM #125:	Trumble posted... Never trust Israel. Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:983090521] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Never trust Israel.</quote>Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/26/24 9:17:35 PM #126:	DnDer posted... Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership? Honestly, given their history it's a bit of an "I'll believe it when I see it", but fair to say that an entirely new candidate (not connected to the existing ones) should at least be given a fair chance. --- Warning: This post contains Trumbles known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. <cite>Trumble posted [p:983091357] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership?</quote>Honestly, given their history it's a bit of an "I'll believe it when I see it", but fair to say that an entirely new candidate (not connected to the existing ones) should at least be given a fair chance.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hornezz 11/27/24 11:06:24 AM #127:	France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC: https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/ --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:983096359] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC:https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/27/24 11:09:15 AM #128:	DnDer posted... Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership? Maybe Lapid again, Gantz, or Golan. Pick your poison. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:983096385] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Not as long as it's run by Likud and Bibi, anyway. There's got to be someone in one of the minority parties, or in the other coalitions against Bibi, that we could trust in power once Netanyahu finally sees trial and prison and Likud crumbles without his leadership?</quote>Maybe Lapid again, Gantz, or Golan. Pick your poison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zoks 11/27/24 11:15:26 AM #129:	Hornezz posted... France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC: https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/ I was wondering why Israel was suddenly open to a ceasefire. France's ICC threat was most likely their bargaining chip to force Netanyahu into a deal. I guess we can take this as more proof that Israel always had Biden's tacit approval of their war crimes in Gaza. --- Who Dat? https://www.deviantart.com/fuee/art/Zoks-810047183 <cite>Zoks posted [p:983096443] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC:https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/</quote>I was wondering why Israel was suddenly open to a ceasefire. France's ICC threat was most likely their bargaining chip to force Netanyahu into a deal. I guess we can take this as more proof that Israel always had Biden's tacit approval of their war crimes in Gaza.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/27/24 1:41:27 PM #130:	Hornezz posted... France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC: https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/ https://x.com/Acyn/status/1860153637382815921 Graham went on TV the other day threatening allies that they'd be sanctioned if they comply with the ICC, and there's no reason to think Trump wouldn't follow through. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983097879] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>France retracts its earlier position and now says Netanyahu should not be arrested by the ICC:https://www.reuters.com/world/france-says-israels-netanyahu-has-immunity-will-continue-working-with-him-2024-11-27/</quote>https://x.com/Acyn/status/1860153637382815921Graham went on TV the other day threatening allies that they'd be sanctioned if they comply with the ICC, and there's no reason to think Trump wouldn't follow through. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/27/24 8:51:48 PM #131:	I can't wait for America to stop being a world power. <cite>Zikten posted [p:983102130] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>I can't wait for America to stop being a world power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/28/24 6:19:12 AM #132:	Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:983105555] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/28/24 9:03:17 AM #133:	Foppe posted... Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire. That took all of... minutes. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:983106343] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire.</quote>That took all of... minutes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
conduit 11/28/24 9:15:38 AM #134:	According to Israeli IDF spokesman Israel are "enforcing the ceasefire" by continuing to shoot and bomb Lebanon. lol. Did Hezbollah even agree to this ceasefire yet? Or was this unilaterally announced and imposed by Israel for PR purposes knowing that it hadn't been agreed by Hezbollah anyway? so they can carry on bombing Lebanon while claiming that it's the other side's fault? There's no chance of Israel pulling its ground troops out of Lebanon, right? Even with a ceasefire are the IDF expected to maintain military presence/occupation of southern Lebanon? All of this is too confusing to me. It's hard to find any of the details since mainstream media are always so vague and sketchy when it comes to reporting the actual terms and conditions of any of these agreements. The other thing is fighting Hezbollah is a very different prospect to fighting Hamas. I've heard that Israel's losses so far in Lebanon are something like 95+ soldiers killed, 900 wounded, 42 tanks destroyed. Yet mainstream opinion in Israel still seems to be against a ceasefire in Lebanon. The whole point of Israel's war against Lebanon was to somehow "decouple" the conflict with Hezbollah from what Israel is doing in Gaza, so Israel could be free to focus on their genocide against Palestinians without Hezbollah interfering. I'm assuming this objective has not been reached? --- ~we are a part of the process, not instigators of its progress~ <cite>conduit posted [p:983106414] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>According to Israeli IDF spokesman Israel are "enforcing the ceasefire" by continuing to shoot and bomb Lebanon. lol.Did Hezbollah even agree to this ceasefire yet? Or was this unilaterally announced and imposed by Israel for PR purposes knowing that it hadn't been agreed by Hezbollah anyway? so they can carry on bombing Lebanon while claiming that it's the other side's fault? There's no chance of Israel pulling its ground troops out of Lebanon, right? Even with a ceasefire are the IDF expected to maintain military presence/occupation of southern Lebanon? All of this is too confusing to me. It's hard to find any of the details since mainstream media are always so vague and sketchy when it comes to reporting the actual terms and conditions of any of these agreements.The other thing is fighting Hezbollah is a very different prospect to fighting Hamas. I've heard that Israel's losses so far in Lebanon are something like 95+ soldiers killed, 900 wounded, 42 tanks destroyed. Yet mainstream opinion in Israel still seems to be against a ceasefire in Lebanon. The whole point of Israel's war against Lebanon was to somehow "decouple" the conflict with Hezbollah from what Israel is doing in Gaza, so Israel could be free to focus on their genocide against Palestinians without Hezbollah interfering. I'm assuming this objective has not been reached?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 11/28/24 10:16:01 AM #135:	DnDer posted... That took all of... minutes. seriously lol, WTF. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:983106787] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>That took all of... minutes.</quote>seriously lol, WTF.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/28/24 6:48:44 PM #136:	FFTHEWINNER posted... seriously lol, WTF. I don't know what prompted Israel to declare the ceasefire broke, but as Fuzz above noted, "re-arm," was deliberately vague. I wouldn't be surprised if a child picked up a rock and Israel called it "re-arming" at this point. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:983112060] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>FFTHEWINNER posted... </cite><quote>seriously lol, WTF.</quote>I don't know what prompted Israel to declare the ceasefire broke, but as Fuzz above noted, "re-arm," was deliberately vague. I wouldn't be surprised if a child picked up a rock and Israel called it "re-arming" at this point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 11/29/24 7:41:42 PM #137:	NPR goes into some detail on the ceasefire. It says violations should be reported. I take the violations should be reported to mean in that the ceasefire is not over when a violation occurs. https://www.npr.org/2024/11/28/g-s1-36146/israel-hezbollah-lebanon-ceasefire-middle-east-crisis --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:983122387] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>NPR goes into some detail on the ceasefire. It says violations should be reported.I take the violations should be reported to mean in that the ceasefire is not over when a violation occurs.https://www.npr.org/2024/11/28/g-s1-36146/israel-hezbollah-lebanon-ceasefire-middle-east-crisis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 11/29/24 7:44:33 PM #138:	https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-claims-of-violations-on-day-2-war-hamas-gaza/ Beirut Israel on Thursday carried out its first airstrike on Lebanon since a truce with Hezbollah announced this week, saying it targeted the militant group's activity at a rocket storage facility in southern Lebanon that breached the ceasefire. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:983122409] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hezbollah-ceasefire-claims-of-violations-on-day-2-war-hamas-gaza/<quote>Beirut Israel on Thursday carried out its first airstrike on Lebanon since a truce with Hezbollah announced this week, saying it targeted the militant group's activity at a rocket storage facility in southern Lebanon that breached the ceasefire.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lonestar2000 11/29/24 8:05:47 PM #139:	Foppe posted... Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire. Does anyone actually believe Israel claims at this point? --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImprisonToadDickTrump <cite>Lonestar2000 posted [p:983122596] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Israel claims that Hizbollah broke the cease fire.</quote>Does anyone actually believe Israel claims at this point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/29/24 8:33:07 PM #140:	Lonestar2000 posted... Does anyone actually believe Israel claims at this point? I think most people realise by this point that until confirmed by a neutral (or anti-Israel, though that comes with its own problems) source - not an ally like the US - nothing Israe says should be trusted. --- Warning: This post contains Trumbles known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. <cite>Trumble posted [p:983122855] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Lonestar2000 posted... </cite><quote>Does anyone actually believe Israel claims at this point?</quote>I think most people realise by this point that until confirmed by a neutral (or anti-Israel, though that comes with its own problems) source - not an ally like the US - nothing Israe says should be trusted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFuzz3451 11/29/24 8:55:49 PM #141:	Israel unilaterally declared a ceasefire that they proceeded to literally immediately break, repeatedly. --- Yes we're being condescending Yes that means we're talking down to you <cite>TheFuzz3451 posted [p:983123070] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Israel unilaterally declared a ceasefire that they proceeded to literally immediately break, repeatedly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/29/24 9:44:01 PM #142:	I haven't trusted anything Israel says, for about 20 years now <cite>Zikten posted [p:983123564] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>I haven't trusted anything Israel says, for about 20 years now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/30/24 8:55:07 AM #143:	Hamas and Al-Fatah are meeting in Egypt to talk about the future of Gaza, like hostages, cease fire, etc. Would be a nice target for Israel. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:983126907] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Hamas and Al-Fatah are meeting in Egypt to talk about the future of Gaza, like hostages, cease fire, etc. Would be a nice target for Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 11/30/24 10:12:59 AM #144:	Foppe posted... Hamas and Al-Fatah are meeting in Egypt to talk about the future of Gaza, like hostages, cease fire, etc. Would be a nice target for Israel. Attacking them in Egypt would mean declaring unprovoked war on Egypt, the strongest Arab country militarily by far (only one in the top 20 militaries in the world). So yeah, that ain't happening. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:983127351] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>Hamas and Al-Fatah are meeting in Egypt to talk about the future of Gaza, like hostages, cease fire, etc. Would be a nice target for Israel.</quote>Attacking them in Egypt would mean declaring unprovoked war on Egypt, the strongest Arab country militarily by far (only one in the top 20 militaries in the world). So yeah, that ain't happening.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/30/24 10:18:19 AM #145:	They already killed Haniyeh in Iran. But yes, that would be a very bad idea. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:983127394] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>They already killed Haniyeh in Iran. But yes, that would be a very bad idea.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 11/30/24 11:07:01 AM #146:	Starks posted... They already killed Haniyeh in Iran. But yes, that would be a very bad idea. Iran is already their biggest enemy. Egypt is not. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:983127767] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>They already killed Haniyeh in Iran. But yes, that would be a very bad idea.</quote>Iran is already their biggest enemy. Egypt is not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/30/24 1:27:23 PM #147:	Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:983128956] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 11/30/24 4:10:40 PM #148:	Tyranthraxus posted... Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593 Quite vile. As expected of Israel. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:983130562] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593</quote>Quite vile. As expected of Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/30/24 4:27:33 PM #149:	Tyranthraxus posted... Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593 I don't actually see anything in that article that mentions him being killed with such a drone? I do see that several of his workers were killed in an Israeli strike (and that Israel is trying to play it off as an "accident"). --- Warning: This post contains Trumbles known to the state of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. <cite>Trumble posted [p:983130746] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Israel used a targeted assassination drone on Mahmoud Almadhoun. This guy literally didn't do anything but run a soup kitchen in Gaza that fed about 3000 people a day. He wasn't a human shield or anything. They specifically targeted and killed him for feeding people.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-soup-kitchen-bridges-efforts-brothers-thousands-miles-apart-rcna146593</quote>I don't actually see anything in that article that mentions him being killed with such a drone? I do see that several of his workers were killed in an Israeli strike (and that Israel is trying to play it off as an "accident").</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CobraGT 11/30/24 4:49:53 PM #150:	There is no article yet just social media. Israel banned Al Jazeera iirc. --- GoldenSun/Crossbone Isle diagrams/ 18 teams known https://photobucket.com/u/SwordOfWheat/a/9990a2ee-25f3-4242-ae79-7d2d4b882be4 <cite>CobraGT posted [p:983130975] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>There is no article yet just social media. Israel banned Al Jazeera iirc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/30/24 4:50:56 PM #151:	Trumble posted... I don't actually see anything in that article that mentions him being killed with such a drone? I do see that several of his workers were killed in an Israeli strike (and that Israel is trying to play it off as an "accident"). The article is from a long time ago about the kitchen. The murder happened today, I just can't find any reports on it at least not in English. There might be one now I haven't checked. Edit: here's one from MSN. The death was originally reported on Facebook by Mahmoud's brother. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-central-kitchen-workers-killed-by-israeli-airstrike-in-gaza/ar-AA1v2yCH --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:983130983] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I don't actually see anything in that article that mentions him being killed with such a drone? I do see that several of his workers were killed in an Israeli strike (and that Israel is trying to play it off as an "accident").</quote>The article is from a long time ago about the kitchen. The murder happened today, I just can't find any reports on it at least not in English. There might be one now I haven't checked.Edit: here's one from MSN. The death was originally reported on Facebook by Mahmoud's brother. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/world-central-kitchen-workers-killed-by-israeli-airstrike-in-gaza/ar-AA1v2yCH</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 11/30/24 4:59:59 PM #152:	CobraGT posted... There is no article yet just social media. Israel banned Al Jazaeera iirc. Yes, they can't let the truth out, only propaganda. --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:983131100] in Israel/Pal... [t:80881651]...</cite> <quote>CobraGT posted... </cite><quote>There is no article yet just social media. Israel banned Al Jazaeera iirc.</quote>Yes, they can't let the truth out, only propaganda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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