Current Events > Israel/Palestina War XX - Bye bye Def Minister Gallant, Hello Def Minister Katz

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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/05/world/israel-gaza-soldiers-arrest-war-crimes-intl/index.html
IDF soldier on vacation in Brazil.
Brazil decides to have a trial against him for helping in warcrimes.
He flees to Israel.

Damnit they shouldn't have let him leave

https://x.com/krystalball/status/1875557244353298807

I would argue this statement from Blinken demonstrates genocidal intent from Israel. Submit this to the ICC

It's always (mildly, rather briefly) entertaining to gleam someone's values, worldview, their very dreams and fears from their arguments and logical processes. Or lack thereof.

Truly, intellect merely serves the will. I'm always the first to blame education, brute, ignorant chauvinism for society's problems. But that's not really, really the root of it. It's always been something even more primal. More personal.

Tribalism, in-group bias, blind loyalty to those you identify with and fear, hatred and disgust for anyone who's different, plus the separation of good and evil to protect the ego, as in the paranoid-schizoid position in object relations theory described by Melanie Klein. Something is viewed as either all good or all bad, there's no room for nuance or middle-ground, and the person is unable to integrate good and evil into a holistic whole understanding.

As fear and distrust increases in social groups you get this polarising effect as people band together into their own separate sub-groups while becoming disdainful of anyone outside the group, the hallmark of a paranoid society. People huddle together for protection when things get bad, hard times increase our tribal tendencies and fear of the 'Other'. Nothing brings people together quite like having a shared enemy.

Obviously goes for both sides of the divide. Conversely we can reduce this fear by seeking conciliation and compromise, encourage dialogue across dividing lines and not simply shut down anyone who disagrees with us. Ignorance is the parent of fear, fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to violence, violence leads to more fear.

Poland PM Donald Tusk: If Israel's PM wants to visit Auschwitz, then we won't arrest him.

What you describe is the actions of collective behaviour. I wouldn't use the paranoid-schizophrenia as the objective lens in this case. The mental illness that she describes is an individual trait and can't be applied to the whole. You are trying to paint a picture of a society that is sick through mechanics in the brain that is not fully understood. The object of fear that they face is ultimately linked to their environment and with enough support. They can function normally. Society is a system that is entirely different from a needs based view of what support looks like at an individual level.

I only came out of lurking for this moment as I'm a child of a parent with paranoid schizophrenia. I looked up what the position is and your use of application. You are better off with the collective group mentality that requires social norms to change the opinions of an individual. We fail to see the full bias when a crowd gathers.

I said "paranoid-schizoid" which in object relations theory has nothing to do with paranoid schizophrenia, apologies for the misunderstanding. But I wasn't talking about anything to do with mental illness or personality disorder, but rather our dualistic moral understanding that we develop as babies and often regress to throughout adulthood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoid-schizoid_and_depressive_positions

Tribalism, in-group bias, blind loyalty to those you identify with and fear, hatred and disgust for anyone who's different, plus the separation of good and evil to protect the ego, as in the paranoid-schizoid position in object relations theory described by Melanie Klein. Something is viewed as either all good or all bad, there's no room for nuance or middle-ground, and the person is unable to integrate good and evil into a holistic whole understanding.

As fear and distrust increases in social groups you get this polarising effect as people band together into their own separate sub-groups while becoming disdainful of anyone outside the group, the hallmark of a paranoid society. People huddle together for protection when things get bad, hard times increase our tribal tendencies and fear of the 'Other'. Nothing brings people together quite like having a shared enemy.

Obviously goes for both sides of the divide. Conversely we can reduce this fear by seeking conciliation and compromise, encourage dialogue across dividing lines and not simply shut down anyone who disagrees with us. Ignorance is the parent of fear, fear leads to hatred, hatred leads to violence, violence leads to more fear.

The estimated annualised mortality from traumatic injury of 393 per 1000 people is exceptionally high, surpassing rates seen during earlier conflicts in the Gaza Strip. Although daily traumatic injury mortality decreased since December, 2023, both the scale and agesex patterns of traumatic injury deaths raise grave concerns about the conduct of the military operation in Gaza despite Israel stating that it is acting to minimise civilian casualties. The majority of deaths (591%) occurred among women, children, and older people, groups considered particularly vulnerable in conflict-affected settings and less likely to be combatants. The agesex pattern of mortality during violent conflicts might help investigate the motivations of combatants, albeit only within a much broader evidentiary context. A lack of discrimination in killings by age and sex would manifest itself numerically as a relatively flat agesex riskeg, as described by the UN Inter-Agency Group for Child Mortality Estimation during the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

• At least eight people, including two women and two children, have been killed during an Israeli bombardment of the Zainab al-Wazir school housing displaced families in northern Gazas Jabalia area.
• The Israeli army confirmed the Jabalia attack, claiming the school-turned-shelter housed a Hamas command-and-control centre.
• A spokesperson for Gazas civil defence agency says Israel aims to kill as many Palestinian civilians and medical personnel as it can as it continues its devastating war.
• Three Israeli military infantry battalions will be sent to reinforce troop numbers in the north of the occupied West Bank, according to Israeli media reports. The deployment comes amid calls for the annexation of the Palestinian territory by far-right members of the government.
• Israels genocide in Gaza has killed at least 46,537 Palestinians and wounded 109,571 since October 7, 2023. At least 1,139 people were killed in Israel during the Hamas-led attacks that d

https://x.com/krystalball/status/1875557244353298807

I would argue this statement from Blinken demonstrates genocidal intent from Israel. Submit this to the ICC

Ceasefire agreed to. If someone wants to look into it further

• When does the deal take effect? The plan still needs approval from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahus Security Cabinet and then his full Cabinet. Both are dominated by Netanyahu allies and are likely to approve any proposal he presents.
• What happens to the hostages? Nearly 100 people are still captive inside Gaza, and Israels military believes at least a third are dead. The three-phased agreement would begin with the release of 33 women, children, older adults and wounded civilians in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian women and children imprisoned by Israel. Soldiers and other male captives would be released in the second phase.
• What does the deal mean for the war? The agreement would bring relief to the hard-hit Gaza Strip, where Israels offensive has reduced large areas to rubble and displaced around 90% of the population of 2.3 million, many at risk of famine.

Israel will probably break the ceasefire soon enough. I don't trust them

History says that this is a short ceasefire. This isn't a peace deal. Each will blame the other when it eventually fails again. Next elections for Isreal choosing a government is 2026. So expect something around then if not sooner.

Humble novice gotta be furious

I think it's missing the point to assign "credit" to Biden or Trump for this deal, that is a secondary factor. The actual critical factor were the Palestinians themselves successfully resisting their own destruction and displacement. They stood against Israel and did not allow Israel to impose its will, to the point where Israel must accept conditions far less than total victory. That's the main story.

You can't be serious here. The Israeli right is agreeing wholly as a favor to Trump. Gaza is in ruins, tens of thousands dead, and the West Bank is under threat. All hope of Palestinian liberation is dead for generations.

He's right that the propaganda will tell their people exactly what that user said. As for rebuilding efforts, the whole point was to not be able to repeat the same way. They dismantled the arms dealing network this time around and without that. They would not have the same strength for the time being. Citizens don't need to live in fear of a random attack. Which might give more time for them to elect Bibi again. I hope not but with with the world going right wing. Who knows m

Syria has fallen

"Technically they survived" isn't a military victory! Gaza is in ruins, tens of thousands are dead, the infrastructure is gone. Hamas's elite units are wiped out. Their leaders are dead. Not only that, but Iran's sphere of influence has been crippled to hell and back. Hezbollah has been decapitated, Nasrallah is dead, Nasrallah's successor is dead, that guy's successor is dead, Syria has fallen. Iran's biggest influence left is with the fucking Houthis who are hitting the point between "obnoxious but not a genuine threat" and "wipe them out."

Israel won. They committed a horrible genocide and they're getting away with it. Netanyahu fucked up and allowed the worst single day massacre of Jews in decades on his watch, he spiked a peace deal to help Trump for months and now Trump won, the Israeli right are celebrating, the ONLY leverage the Palestinians have is the hostages, and Netanyahu gets to claim he killed both leaders of Hamas and finally got Nasallah after 18 years of Nasrallah sitting on his 2006 victory. Saudi Arabia is prepared to normalize relations, Iran is crippled

The Palestinians lost, and they're going to lose more. There's no hope of a state, no peace process, and Israel's got an even more fervent supporter in the White House.

Pretty awful fucking look for dems.

Wouldn't be the first time an incoming republican administration riddled with dementia stole any and all credit for work that had been going on behind the scenes for more than a year to solve a crisis in the middle east.

People who know understand this isn't a bad look for anyone who's actually paying attention instead of playing optics.

Wouldn't be the first time an incoming republican administration riddled with dementia stole any and all credit for work that had been going on behind the scenes for more than a year to solve a crisis in the middle east.

People who know understand this isn't a bad look for anyone who's actually paying attention instead of playing optics.

Please stop making it sound as if Biden is an innocent, powerless bystander in all of this. Did he stop sending weapons to Israel? Did he commit to a single red line that was drawn? Did he apply any pressure whatsoever on Netanyahu in signing the deal or did he keep providing cover for the genocide in the press by spreading lies and disinformation?

Pretty awful fucking look for dems.