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Shamino posted...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-israel-settlers-west-bank-sanctions-lifted-violence-rcna188503

the abandon Harris crowd always says one thing and then does something else. Their actions dont align with their words. They are a bunch of liars who wanted trump elected. Thats all they are

first they helped get trump elected. Now that hes elected, they want people to stop shitting on them for helping him get elected.

WingsOfGood posted...

lmao

no you don't want the people responsible to feel bad, that is all you want

also there is no one group unless you mean voters are one group?

Except for the protest voters, whose lack of voting wouldn't have tipped the scales in our favor anyway, every other non voter isn't going to feel bad, no matter how hard you wag your finger. They're too dumb (by design) to know any better. It's like yelling at a special needs person for doing something bad. They're not going to understand.

Meanwhile both the Republicans and establishment Democrats are just sitting back and laughing.

CountCorvinus posted...

You know what I think shouldn't get a "pass"? Genocide.

.... But you said you voted for Harris?

CountCorvinus posted...

I voted against Trump, but we were literally told that Kamala did not need our votes. Where were your moderate republican friends?

havean776 posted...

.... But you said you voted for Harris?

He also said this in a topic titled "Do you respect Trumpers?":

CountCorvinus posted...

About as much as I respect liberals.

So I'd say he's entirely full of shit.

nocturnal_traveler posted...

Except for the protest voters, whose lack of voting wouldn't have tipped the scales in our favor anyway, every other non voter isn't going to feel bad, no matter how hard you wag your finger. They're too dumb (by design) to know any better. It's like yelling at a special needs person for doing something bad. They're not going to understand.

Meanwhile both the Republicans and establishment Democrats are just sitting back and laughing.

so your point was to specifically defend the Dearborn protest voters?

I'm aware that Trump is continuing the genocide that the Biden administration committed to. It's what we were trying to avoid.

You liberals can stop posting that like some kind of gotcha.

Not a single serious leftist thought Trump was going to be better for Palestine.

But pat yourself on the shoulder for seeming to care about innocent people now that it isn't your guy doing the bombing, I guess?

WingsOfGood posted...

so your point was to specifically defend the Dearborn protest voters?

Of course not. They definitely deserve blame. But when you have posters like Humble making several topics about them, it takes focus away from the primary people at fault.

CountCorvinus posted...

I'm aware that Trump is continuing the genocide that the Biden administration committed to. It's what we were trying to avoid.

You liberals can stop posting that like some kind of gotcha.

Not a single serious leftist thought Trump was going to be better for Palestine.

Can you explain more in depth how exactly the abandon Harris movement was supposed to have diverted votes away from trump and towards Harris, to avoid the situation you just said they were trying to avoid?

CountCorvinus posted...

I'm aware that Trump is continuing the genocide that the Biden administration committed to. It's what we were trying to avoid.

You liberals can stop posting that like some kind of gotcha.

Not a single serious leftist thought Trump was going to be better for Palestine.

So you can give it a pass by voting democrat?
Good. Than this topic doesn't apply to you does it?

CountCorvinus posted...

I'm aware that Trump is continuing the genocide that the Biden administration committed to. It's what we were trying to avoid.

You liberals can stop posting that like some kind of gotcha.

Not a single serious leftist thought Trump was going to be better for Palestine.

Good on you for seeming to care about innocent people now that it isn't your guy doing the bombing, I guess?

Again
KajeI posted...

Friendly reminder the gazans, in gaza, literally said they wanted anyone but Trump to win months before the election.

CountCorvinus posted...

I'm aware that Trump is continuing the genocide that the Biden administration committed to. It's what we were trying to avoid.

You liberals can stop posting that like some kind of gotcha.

Not a single serious leftist thought Trump was going to be better for Palestine.

How was not voting for Harris going to stop anything?

Or better yet, which outcome would have been better, knowing Trump's feelings about Israel, Trump or Harris?

countcorvinus probably ignored you already Kajel

Shamino posted...

How was not voting for Harris going to stop anything?

Or better yet, which outcome would have been better, knowing Trump's feelings about Israel, Trump or Harris?

Who do you think I voted for?

WingsOfGood posted...

Seems you are the one who doesn't get nuance if you feel you are the target of these posts
General statement

I never said I was. But a lot of New Yorkers, Californians, etc. who didnt vote would be included in a lot of the blanket statements your ilk is making, and they factually caused no harm.

WingsOfGood posted...

If someone wanted to vote Kamala but had a car wreck and is unconscious you think this thread is about them?
Cmon

I never said they were. I merely pointed out that voting was easier in 2020 due to a nationwide pandemic putting people out of work and making mail-in voting much more widespread.

However, people who were too busy working their jobs to go vote for Harris are the target of these posts. This whole topic is basically whether one puts the onus on the party to convince them its worth taking that time off work or the onus is on the voter to overcome a shitty education system and awful standards of living and the depression that comes with it to motivate themselves to take the time off work for it.

What's so bad about the new utopia?

PraetorXyn posted...

However, people who were too busy working their jobs to go vote for Harris are the target of these posts. This whole topic is basically whether one puts the onus on the party to convince them its worth taking that time off work or the onus is on the voter to overcome a s***ty education system and awful standards of living and the depression that comes with it to motivate themselves to take the time off work for it.

This topic is not targeting people who couldn't vote or they would starve or something, you are just pretending that for some weird strange reason

like holy moly

PraetorXyn posted...

I never said I was. But a lot of New Yorkers, Californians, etc. who didnt vote would be included in a lot of the blanket statements your ilk is making, and they factually caused no harm.

I never said they were. I merely pointed out that voting was easier in 2020 due to a nationwide pandemic putting people out of work and making mail-in voting much more widespread.

However, people who were too busy working their jobs to go vote for Harris are the target of these posts. This whole topic is basically whether one puts the onus on the party to convince them its worth taking that time off work or the onus is on the voter to overcome a shitty education system and awful standards of living and the depression that comes with it to motivate themselves to take the time off work for it.

Our Ilk as you like to call us where trying to prevent things like this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80922657

But hey go ahead get mad at us. It was our fault for not convincing steve that maybe voting is important. Think he knows now?

CountCorvinus posted...

Who do you think I voted for?

If you voted for Harris than that means you agree that voting for someone you don't like is more important than letting evil win.

So why do you have a problem with this topic for telling people to do what you did?

PraetorXyn posted...

I never said I was. But a lot of New Yorkers, Californians, etc. who didnt vote would be included in a lot of the blanket statements your ilk is making, and they factually caused no harm.

I never said they were. I merely pointed out that voting was easier in 2020 due to a nationwide pandemic putting people out of work and making mail-in voting much more widespread.

However, people who were too busy working their jobs to go vote for Harris are the target of these posts. This whole topic is basically whether one puts the onus on the party to convince them its worth taking that time off work or the onus is on the voter to overcome a shitty education system and awful standards of living and the depression that comes with it to motivate themselves to take the time off work for it.

bruh what the hell? People who didnt vote because they couldnt be assed are being criticized. Not people who couldnt vote because they were disenfranchised. Thats just entirely a strawman and completely divorced from what people are actually talking about

also calling people who are frustrated as rights are literally being taken away ilk is just wonderful

havean776 posted...

Our Ilk as you like to call us where trying to prevent things like this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80922657

But hey go ahead get mad at us. It was our fault for not convincing steve that maybe voting is important. Think he knows now?

Im not mad at anyone but the fascists doing the damage and theat best unbelievably incompetent and at worst paid controlled oppositionpathetic opposition that loves snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Anything else is a waste of time, which is my point. Finger wagging at <100,000 people in the Rust Belt isnt going to do shit, but its really tiresome and annoying to see and hear on a constant basis.

PraetorXyn posted...

its really tiresome and annoying to see and hear on a constant basis.

oh is it?

hmmm

PraetorXyn posted...

but its really tiresome and annoying to see and hear on a constant basis.

Sucks to be you! I ain't stopping.
I think it sucks that people where to lazy or felt to hurt to vote Harris. Now I watch as Trump in three days does more harm to this country than any other president in history.

PraetorXyn posted...

Anything else is a waste of time, which is my point. Finger wagging at <100,000 people in the Rust Belt isnt going to do shit, but its really tiresome and annoying to see and hear on a constant basis.

Yes. Yes it is.

Thankfully, GameFAQs has a really cool feature that makes it less annoying.

it annoys count so much he continues posting in a thread about it

CountCorvinus posted...

Anyway, ever since I began curating users, it's been a way more pleasant experience.

Translation: I block anyone who even remotely calls me out on my bullshit, it's called curating users.

Please feel free to curate me as well.

ItsNotA2Mer posted...

Translation: I block anyone who even remotely calls me out on my bullshit, it's called curating users.

Please feel free to curate me as well.

What's funny is he keeps bringing it up. So he's still thinking about everyone he's ignored. Which is even more sad.

Tmaster148 posted...

What's funny is he keeps bringing it up. So he's still thinking about everyone he's ignored. Which is even more sad.

And they're absolutely reading them all on an alt regardless.

It's not exactly subtle.

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My tag says it's a fairly standard melty by Count. The whole Blue MAGA thing was the tipping point for me.

CountCorvinus posted...

Who do you think I voted for?

Jill Stein, probably.

CTrunks posted...

Jill Stein, probably.

He said earlier he voted third party, didn't specify

ah Jill Stein

no wonder he is melting down, he is feeling the shame and guilt and being played like a tool and hates to be reminded of it

CTrunks posted...

Jill Stein, probably.

Fuck no.

Strider102 posted...

He said earlier he voted third party, didn't specify

They, and no, I absolutely did not say I voted third party. I never have. I do not vote for Democrats or Republicans either. I vote for myself.

You see the election as for voting for a candidate. I view the election as me choosing an opponent who will do the least amount of harm and can be more easily pressured into enacting the policies I want and since Democrats are more malleable than Republicans, I fill in that circle.

CountCorvinus posted...

Fuck no.

They, and no, I absolutely did not say I voted third party. I never have. I do not vote for Democrats or Republicans either. I vote for myself.

You see the election as for voting for a candidate. I view the election as me choosing an opponent who will do the least amount of harm and can be more easily pressured into enacting the policies I want and since Democrats are more malleable than Republicans, I fill in that circle.

My bad, you said you didn't vote for Kamala but instead chose to make her your enemy for 8 years.

I take it back.

here

defend these people

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZ/comments/1i7f8fz/new_yorkers_asked_why_did_they_vote_for_trump/

CountCorvinus posted...

I view the election as me choosing an opponent who will do the least amount of harm and can be more easily pressured into enacting the policies I want

Holy fuckin' "Superiority Complex and/or Delusions of Grandeur from an Absolute and Undeniable Failure," Batman!

Strider102 posted...

My bad, you said you didn't vote for Kamala but instead chose to make her your enemy for 8 years.

I take it back.

Correct. We're good.

Westernwolf4 posted...

This. I truly dont mean to offend anyone, but this desperation by so many to give voters a complete pass (while often blaming Democrats more than the folks doing the evil stuff) is absurd to me.

The post that caused the response I quoted agreement with says the GOP has spent decades brainwashing people to get to this point. That is absolutely true, and a big reason why a loser like Trump can even sniff the presidency. But that is even more reason why Democrats catching so much heat in the wake of this election is baffling. Here we have an evil bad faith group doing everything they can to lie to the populace, and our big gripe is Democrats didnt do enough to counter 50 years of bad faith? What are we realistically supposed to do when one of the two major political parties decides to completely abandon good faith, short of burning everything down? No functioning government has a safeguard that will absorb that. The only safeguard is voters and elections.

The same post that generated the post I quoted says that voters shouldnt be blamed, because Republican propaganda is so hard to see through. Im sorry, but it is easy, and everyone who cant should be ashamed. We have access to all the information we could ever need with computers in our pocket, plus decades of Trump being a scumbag before 2016, plus a disastrous first term, plus felony convictions, plus an attempt to overthrow the government on live TV. Some people are not interested in politics!! Is not sufficient at this point. I am tired of feeling sympathy for people who are too lazy to care about the things that impact the people around them, or too hateful, or are dumb enough to fall for what is perhaps the most clumsy con in American History, however long running it may be. Yes, it is pretty easy not to fall for the most obvious grift in memory if one chooses to think for five minutes.

I am sorry if this makes some folks uncomfortable, but the GOP bad faith is to blame, followed closely by an electorate that is dumb, hateful and lazy enough to elect an obvious monster to high office twice. The Democrats are a distant third. They ran a shit campaign. Biden didnt get out soon enough. But in a world where a man tries to install himself as a king through violence and the voters that have a duty to hold politicians accountable just shrug, what Democrat message was going to fix this?

Frankly, America is getting exactly the leadership that an electorate that takes freedom and active civic participation for granted deserves. I just wish the consequences werent going to be so severe for those of us that give a shit, or for those who are actively being stripped of their rights and freedoms.

This. 100% fucking this.

To which can be added that this pattern of blame is precisely the same pattern that applied to Germany back in the day, with Nazis most to blame, followed closely by people in Weimar Germany who voted Nazi or failed to vote against Nazis because they were supposedly "fooled" by Nazi propaganda.

Like Nazi propaganda back then, most Republican propaganda these days is based on scapegoating innocent people as the "cause" of all social ills, and that's just evil on its face. Anyone "fooled" by that message is just accepting an excuse for what they are already inclined to do.

EPR-radar posted...

This. 100% fucking this.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0b221e97.jpg

WingsOfGood posted...

he also took such offense to this thread he went on an ignore spree

quite odd behavior for someone who apparently voted for Harris

Wouldn't be the first time CountChudvinus blocked me because they couldn't handle truth.

CountCorvinus posted...

Fuck no.

They, and no, I absolutely did not say I voted third party. I never have. I do not vote for Democrats or Republicans either. I vote for myself.

You see the election as for voting for a candidate. I view the election as me choosing an opponent who will do the least amount of harm and can be more easily pressured into enacting the policies I want and since Democrats are more malleable than Republicans, I fill in that circle.

So you wrote in your own name. Got it. Because otherwise you seem to be going out of the way to avoid saying you "filled the circle" for Harris.

DUKLegend posted...

The amount of energy spent here going against uncommitted voters as opposed to the far greater number of Trump voters is remarkable. Like, where is this energy for Trump supporters? You all despise and shun and push away a group of people more likely to vote your way if you act less spiteful. These people might as well just vote against liberals next time and take less heat that way.

We've told Trump.voters who he was for 8 years.

THEY. DONT. CARE.

They're lost. They're gone. Vapor. Lost to the Trump cult. I'm done wasting my breath talking to them. Now I'm just going to call them the dummies and bigots that they are to their faces.

And people who sat out or voted for Jill "I literally admitted I was only in the race to siphon votes from Kamala" Stein?

We spent the whole election cycle pointing out his AWFUL campaign which was quite literally the worst in modern memory (perhaps ever) and all the signs that it was time to relegate Trumpism to the dustbin of history, and what did American voters do?

They reelected him. Or sat on their entitled asses. And then blew up Google trying to figure out his policies after the fact. Hell, a lot of them DIDN'T EVEN KNOW BIDEN HAD DROPPED OUT.

So yeah, I'm a bit more pissed at the people who should have known better than the brainwashed dummies who are lost causes anyway.

WingsOfGood posted...

ah Jill Stein

no wonder he is melting down, he is feeling the shame and guilt and being played like a tool and hates to be reminded of it

Make him be reminded of it constantly.

Trump voters are easy to understand -- they are pieces of shit that like to vote for Republican pieces of shit.

The moron swing voters in the middle are the ones that are impossible to understand. What model of reality can someone have where they will vote for the likes of Trump because of fucking "egg prices".

EPR-radar posted...

Trump voters are easy to understand -- they are pieces of shit that like to vote for Republican pieces of shit.

The moron swing voters in the middle are the ones that are impossible to understand. What model of reality can someone have where they will vote for the likes of Trump because of fucking "egg prices".

This may be helpful.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2fe940b5.jpg

Just remember, yes, your average adult IS a fucking moron that needs to be babied, and most people on the planet regardless of where they are just want to be mostly left alone and live a nice life full of convenience that's just boring enough that they rarely feel threatened but not so boring they get pissy and start causing problems just for fun.

They don't give a shit about wars happening out of sight for the same reasons they don't care about the weather on the other side of planet or what's popular music in (random country here). They just wanna live their lives in relative peace, and that's pretty hard when you're being bled out in end-game capitalism.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

see personally, Id rather have a president that doesnt end birthright citizenship or delete trans identities on a federal level.

You know we had an option like that, right?

Why are you changing the goalposts?

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Why are you changing the goalposts?

youre talking about what democrats and republicans offer.

One doesnt listen enough for you and the other one listens even less and actively takes away rights.

Seems a pretty simple choice. To even try to compare them after just these first few days of trump is ridiculous.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

youre talking about democrats and republicans offer.

One doesnt listen enough for you and the other one listens even less and actively takes away rights.

Seems a pretty simple choice.

People who say this always forget that staying home is also a choice and a very popular one at that and it's also enough to cause a loss. So, there should be an incentive to get people actively onside.

legendary_zell posted...

People who say this always forget that staying home is also a choice and a very popular one at that and it's also enough to cause a loss. So, there should be an incentive to get people actively onside.

When you stay home, you say you are happy with whatever happens.

So they'd better smile and say, "This is fine."

legendary_zell posted...

People who say this always forget that staying home is also a choice and a very popular one at that and it's also enough to cause a loss. So, there should be an incentive to get people actively onside.

If Nazis taking power of the government isn't enough a motivation to get out and vote, then idk what to tell you.