Current Events > Avatar: Netflix Will Make Live-Action Toph More Older And 'Feminine'

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https://thedirect.com/article/avatar-netflix-live-action-toph-feminie-exclusive

Older isn't a surprise, the entire cast is going to be older.

why would they make her more feminine

hell the idea of a feminine earh bender is kinda hard to grasp do to how the bending works

i mean you could potentially build a interesting character with that contrast i suppose could potentially even build a dancer style with it and maybe if they get to legend of korra they could tie the metal clan to it like its how tophs metal bending was refined

but kinda sexist to do it with TOPH

im not one to care about changes but this one is ehhh not good

... Messing with/up Toph is going to garner massive backlash

Toph is an S tier character. not Avatar character, character. there is no reason to fundamentally change her.

DoesntMatter posted...

Toph is an S tier character. not Avatar character, character. there is no reason to fundamentally change her.

STP. And agreed.

To be clear, this is based entirely on the actress saying, "My version of Toph is going to be a little older and slightly more feminine."

It might just be overblown.

DoesntMatter posted...

Toph is an S tier character. not Avatar character, character. there is no reason to fundamentally change her.

One of my favorite characters in any media I've watched. And this is kind of why I'm rarely ever into adaptations. They want to put their on spin on stories and characters, which is understandable, but I'm not interested.

Hopefully she at least still has the same personality.

Zikten posted...

Hopefully she at least still has the same personality.

It they remove the Toph-branded sass they might as well remove her blindness.

Fiyun posted...

It they remove the Toph-branded sass they might as well remove her blindness.

hell, they might as well make her a tall, muscular man

DoesntMatter posted...

hell, they might as well make her a tall, muscular man

That part of the theater skit retell was at least amusing on her end, unlike the rest of Team Avatar..

How can Toph be feminine

she doesnt even know how it should look

The first season was so bad I couldn't finish it. Have 0 interest in this lol

AceMos posted...

why would they make her more feminine

Fucking the whole point of her character seems to be lost on them. She knows how to be feminine and chooses not to be, it's a whole-ass plot point.

They completely miscast azula so I'm not that reassured

I completely forgot they did a live action Avatar series. Like I meant to watch it, then just completely forgot lol.

It will be interesting to see how much they actually change Toph. Maybe her being more "feminine" just has to do with the looks of the actress herself?

NoxObscuras posted...

I completely forgot they did a live action Avatar series. Like I meant to watch it, then just completely forgot lol.

It will be interesting to see how much they actually change Toph. Maybe her being more "feminine" just has to do with the looks of the actress herself?

I mean to be fair, the original Toph looks like a dirty child on a playground,, and apparently smells like one too.

pegusus123456 posted...

To be clear, this is based entirely on the actress saying, "My version of Toph is going to be a little older and slightly more feminine."

It might just be overblown.

It's the internet, of course it will be overblown. Clickbait ragebait farming is the only way those idiots can get attention.

More "feminine" how? She already looked like a girl. Or do they mean having more stereotypically feminine interests?

Toph literally thought it was absolutely brilliant that the actor that was gotten to portray her in a play was a giant muscle man.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/87b243a5.jpg

The last thing Toph should be portrayed as is more feminine. Sure there's a somewhat feminine aspect to her character but she hides it from even her friends.

Of course this news doesn't mean they're screwing up, it's all in how it's handled but my hopes for this show are already in the shitter after how they absolutely butchered Bumi. I didn't even bother finishing the first season after they fucked his character up THAT badly.

Definitely doesn't need to be "more feminine". She needs to be a sassy brat.

I didnt read the article and only skimmed this topic. If it's only "slightly" per post 7, I dont see the big deal.

Its not like Toph has not expressed a small desire to appear slightly more feminine before. Even that parody of the avatar gang, the dude playing her she found to be funny because of her style of humor... it wasn't because of a desire to be viewed as a man. So I hope some arent twisting that into a, "she identifies as a man" moment.

Let's wait and see what "slightly" means.

It's not the feminine part i am concerned about, the actress said she wants to "humanize the character because she was just a cartoon". Thats disrespectful af and toph has a great character depth and development, and i am concerned for her character if she think cartoon character can't have depth.

maybe they should remove the blind part too

TBF, they changed a few things already in season 1 and it still ended up okay. I think it'll be fine.

apolloooo posted...

It's not the feminine part i am concerned about, the actress said she wants to "humanize the character because she was just a cartoon". Thats disrespectful af and toph has a great character depth and development, and i am concerned for her character if she think cartoon character can't have depth.

people dont view cartoons as real art sadly no matter how critically acclaimed they are

hell fucking DISNEY has taken this stance with their crappy live action remakes

Didnt the Netflix Avatar live action show get panned? Did they not learn their lesson with the One Piece live action show?

LightHawKnight posted...

Didnt the Netflix Avatar live action show get panned?

Naw man it was a success. They ordered season 2 and 3.

VeggetaX posted...

Naw man it was a success.

No it was some ol bullshit.

Shes female so shes already feminine

A_Good_Boy posted...

No it was some ol bullshit.

It was successful enough to get seasons 2 and 3, which Netflix doesn't often do, so clearly many did like it.

Sir_Will posted...

It was successful enough to get seasons 2 and 3, which Netflix doesn't often do, so clearly many did like it.

Or a whole bunch of people hated it.

If Netflix cancels all the good/popular stuff but still has ongoing shows, then the transitive property would suggest they don't cancel the bad/unpopular stuff.

...no.

I mean, toph was always feminine, when she let her guard down.

I'll need to see the actual show to judge what she means.

Sir_Will posted...

It was successful enough to get seasons 2 and 3, which Netflix doesn't often do, so clearly many did like it.

No, Netflix is some ol bullshit and so is live action TLA

A_Good_Boy posted...

No, Netflix is some ol bullshit and so is live action TLA

Nah, it was pretty good.

VeggetaX posted...

TBF, they changed a few things already in season 1 and it still ended up okay. I think it'll be fine.

/looks at Bumi

We have very different definitions of 'fine'.

Toonstrack posted...

Nah, it was pretty good.

Maybe if you've never seen the original and have no idea who any of the characters are. If the live action show was your introduction to TLA then I can see why you'd like it.

Damn was just talking about how great Toph was the way she was with someone.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Maybe if you've never seen the original

Watched the original as it aired.

Watched this show(at least the first half) with others who also did. We all found it pretty good. Not perfect.

Finally, the only unsexy kid will be made sexy!
/s

Toonstrack posted...

I mean, toph was always feminine, when she let her guard down.

I'll need to see the actual show to judge what she means.

They talked about removing Sokka's sexism before he first season and it turned out they just removed all character from Katara and Suki. They don't deserve to have another benefit of the doubt.

Tmaster148 posted...

They talked about removing Sokka's sexism before he first season and it turned out they just removed all character from Katara and Suki. They don't deserve to have another benefit of the doubt.

They did neither, and sokka was still a self proclaimed ladies man he was just more respectful about it

The biggest problem I had with season one was it was dull. It nothing horrible but the characters just felt less interesting, it lacked a soul.

Changes don't bother me, as long as it's interesting.

Just like in the og, zuko and uncle will make me stick with it.

They stole the show in the first season LA IMO.

Enclave posted...

/looks at Bumi

We have very different definitions of 'fine'.

Yeah, Bumi was my jumping-off point. Changing him up wasn't the inherent problem, and some of their changes up to that point were fine. Making Zhao a scheming toady on the rise instead of a one-dimensional egomaniac? Sounds great! Truncating Omashu, the Mechanist, and Jet into a single interwoven plot? Sure, I can see that. The problem was that they turned Bumi into this borderline-suicidal bitter old man but insisted on cherry-picking shot-for-shot bits of old Bumi that mixed with new Bumi like oil and water. You can occasionally find obvious tells that the people adapting source material don't fully understand what they're adapting, and that was one of them.

I said when I gave up on the show that I could be convinced to give s2 a shot at some point (that's when the original truly starts to shine anyway), but that would hinge entirely on how well they nailed Toph's character. Remains to be seen if this article is clickbait or a grim forecast of things to come, but unfortunately a lot of the 'clickbait' articles leading up to s1 turned out to be more-or-less accurate.

this proves that people do just care about messing with the established lore

this is the opposite of the usual outrage

many many times take character who is feminine and make them less and people outrage

so why are people outraging for this? could it be the really do just want a faithful adaptation??

Toonstrack posted...

They did neither, and sokka was still a self proclaimed ladies man he was just more respectful about it

Nah thats not Sokka that we all love. He was an super insecure manchild, who was left behind to "defend" the village, I mean they did it to protect him as he was too young, but that damaged him mentally. He starts off with an inferiority complex and thinks women are beneath him and learns and grows out of it. Good character development shouldnt be tossed out.

I get what they were going for with Bumi. He witnessed the whole hundred year war. Having him more bitter and cynical was fine. If Aang was as optimistic and playful as he was in season one of the cartoon, it may have worked. But that's kind of what the whole show did, it drained the fun by upping the realism of what a hundred year war would do to the survivors.

Honestly I keep comparing LA Avatar with LA One Piece. I feel both recreated the world as best they could and while One Piece made more changes because of how much more content it was adapting what it got right was the tone. The heart and soul of the original. Which is where Avatar missed the mark.

I didn't hate LA Avatar I just feel it came so close and then didn't fully deliver.