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Piplup_Sniper 04/26/25 6:01:33 PM #1: |
what made it so mediocre --- Forbid it, Almighty God! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 04/26/25 6:03:21 PM #2: |
Sucked --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoopPotato 04/26/25 6:06:03 PM #3: |
The lack of dungeon variety was the greatest hindrance for me. --- http://i.minus.com/i5EWBMXTN4ERv.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mechu 04/26/25 6:06:11 PM #4: |
Starfailed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NO2_Fiend 04/26/25 6:06:38 PM #5: |
Piplup_Sniper posted... what made it so mediocreGame world/worlds sucked Quests/story sucked Unique items were lacking Exploration was pointless --- I'm an artist at what I do. I fuel the fire, watch it burn, and laugh all the while. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/26/25 6:07:27 PM #6: |
it wasn't good --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ar0ge 04/26/25 6:08:13 PM #7: |
The thing Bethesda is best at, exploration, was basically non existent. They should have just done a few hand crafted planets and dungeons instead of the thousands of procedurally generated crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 04/26/25 6:11:27 PM #8: |
Modders didn't show up to fix it. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 04/26/25 6:14:25 PM #9: |
creativerealms posted... Modders didn't show up to fix it. But I kept being told by Starfield fans that the game has so much support from the modding community and that it was going to be incredible! :P --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 04/26/25 6:16:27 PM #10: |
Enclave posted... But I kept being told by Starfield fans that the game has so much support from the modding community and that it was going to be incredible!That's what was suppose to happen. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy 04/26/25 6:23:28 PM #11: |
We won't really know until it goes to Switch 2 and PS5. --- https://i.imgur.com/GWG5c3r.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 04/26/25 6:26:05 PM #12: |
creativerealms posted... That's what was suppose to happen. The thing is though that it was really obvious early on that the modding community absolutely wasn't showing up the way they typically do for TES and Fallout but a lot of Starfield fans were kinda in denial. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/26/25 6:46:16 PM #13: |
The worst space combat and space exploration in any space simulator to ever exist. A massive universe full of copy-paste assets that were not fun to explore whatsoever. If you only focus on the story and faction missions you only travel to like 5% of the friggin' systems. Planets were awful to navigate. Nothing interesting to discover on the planets. Unlike NMS where there's new stuff to discover on each planet because random generation, in Starfield they just recycled the same ten animals and plants. So you have to scan the same stupid "Bloodroot" plant a dozen times to fully "research" it even though you've already researched it on a dozen planets previously. Too many loading screens. Bad quest mechanics. I did the corporate espionage questline and there was no challenge because none of the areas you go to are marked as "trespassing" areas. Hardest part was enduring the loading screens from fast traveling. Derivative main story. Terribly exploitative leveling system. Somehow even worse roleplaying mechanics than Fallout 4. As a matter of fact you make literally no choices of consequence whatsoever, with the possible exception of the About the only thing it did well was the ground combat mechanics, but it did this well by Bethesda standards. Compared to any other game the combat was still just OK. --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 04/26/25 6:48:04 PM #14: |
I stopped the moment I realized that it was meant to be replayed. I wanted to chill explore and build a base. However the fact lots of gameplay elements were locked for subsequent replays seemed to contradict the rest of the game design. So I just dropped it --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/26/25 6:54:45 PM #15: |
furb posted... I stopped the moment I realized that it was meant to be replayed. I wanted to chill explore and build a base. However the fact lots of gameplay elements were locked for subsequent replays seemed to contradict the rest of the game design. So I just dropped itI don't think anything was locked behind subsequent replays except for There are certain story elements or variations to the universe in subsequent playthroughs but it's not necessary to experience the game in its entirety imo. Not that I enjoyed it -_- --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 04/26/25 6:55:56 PM #16: |
Too much loading Barren worlds Boring story --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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furb 04/26/25 6:56:35 PM #17: |
Hexenherz posted... I don't think anything was locked behind subsequent replays except for I thought you got more abilities or something? --- You know how fads are. Today it's brains, tomorrow, pierced tongues. Then the next day, pierced brains. -Jane Lane ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate_reaver 04/26/25 6:58:33 PM #18: |
It's also confusing to me because it's the same bullshit bethesda has been churning out since the 360 era but for once people saw it for the dull copy paste empty gameworld it is. --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/26/25 7:00:14 PM #19: |
Ohhh. Yeah, if you're trying to *max* the abilities out then maybe replaying it would be beneficial. But I'm pretty sure you can get them all on one playthrough. And yeah getting their levels up is grindy as sin. --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itcheyness 04/26/25 7:01:41 PM #20: |
I liked it, but then I generally don't let the Internet set my opinion for me. --- Seattle Sounders 2-3-3 9points 261 Refugee ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 04/26/25 7:02:48 PM #21: |
engine --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 04/26/25 7:06:24 PM #22: |
Enclave posted... But I kept being told by Starfield fans that the game has so much support from the modding community and that it was going to be incredible! I'm sorry those three people lied to you. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 04/26/25 7:08:02 PM #23: |
If you're the kinda person who likes watching forty minute videos, this one's a pretty good one on the subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS2emKDlGmE --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 04/26/25 7:09:04 PM #24: |
Aside from everything else modern triple A games tend to flop when they're exclusive to the deadweight 3rd place console (not counting PC). --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 04/26/25 7:11:35 PM #25: |
Because is Toddslop --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 04/26/25 7:12:30 PM #26: |
Copy and paste dungeons --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BewmHedshot 04/26/25 7:15:58 PM #27: |
They forgot to make it fun. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 04/26/25 7:17:54 PM #28: |
creativerealms posted... Modders didn't show up to fix it.Exactly. They've been modding Bethesda games for decades to suit their personal tastes and forgot what the games are like out of the box. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 04/26/25 7:19:02 PM #29: |
loafy013 posted... Exactly. They've been modding Bethesda games for decades to suit their personal tastes and forgot what the games are like out of the box.I seem to remember an extremely prominent Skyrim modder announcing that they weren't going to be doing anything for Starfield because it was so fuckin' boring. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/26/25 7:22:52 PM #30: |
loafy013 posted... Exactly. They've been modding Bethesda games for decades to suit their personal tastes and forgot what the games are like out of the box. ...no? people got into modding Skyrim(and other ES games) because they enjoyed them and knew they could be made better. Skyrim definitely had some flaws out of the box, but for 2011 that was a good game. Starfield just wasn't a good game to build on, and modders were right in not bailing Bethesda out because they basically would have had to redesign the entire game. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 04/26/25 7:25:20 PM #31: |
thronedfire2 posted... ...no?Really? Because every time I've heard somebody say they don't care for Skyrim, the response is to use *list of mods* so they'll understand why its a great game. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 04/26/25 7:27:19 PM #32: |
loafy013 posted... Really? Because every time I've heard somebody say they don't care for Skyrim, the response is to use *list of mods* so they'll understand why its a great game. it's still a good game without mods, but it has quite a few bugs. mods just make it an amazing game, and are probably the reason it's gotten so many remasters and re-releases but the fact that bethesda took zero hints from *any* of those mods and released a new game 12 years later that still had all the problems release Skyrim had is the biggest issue. --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hexenherz 04/26/25 7:28:53 PM #33: |
loafy013 posted... Really? Because every time I've heard somebody say they don't care for Skyrim, the response is to use *list of mods* so they'll understand why its a great game.that's what people always say but realistically skyrim was fine it was just teenage pop in a series that had previously been more like adult contemporary r&b. starfield was orchestral versions of kidz bops songs as performed by 8 year olds on their grandfather's laptop's built-in mic from 20 feet away. --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SecretBase 04/26/25 7:31:09 PM #34: |
pegusus123456 posted...
It's even worse than that, they started work on porting their mod to Starfield before even playing it themselves, just to keep up to date with the community, getting 70% of the way through before playing the game only to realize it was "fucking trash" and give up all the work they had previously done on the mod. They then left their work up to that point open source so someone else could finish the mod... Only for literally nobody to bother lol. --- Sorry. Not sorry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phoro 04/26/25 8:01:52 PM #35: |
ultimate_reaver posted... It's also confusing to me because it's the same bullshit bethesda has been churning out since the 360 era but for once people saw it for the dull copy paste empty gameworld it is. What are you talking about? The Oblivion remake just dropped and people are lapping it up. Including me. Starfield just doesn't hit the same. --- It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alphagamble 04/26/25 8:13:47 PM #36: |
No Aliens --- ooh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 04/26/25 8:24:35 PM #37: |
Starfield isn't that bad in a vacuum. It just released like 10 years too late. --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Will_VIIII 04/26/25 8:31:35 PM #38: |
Locked to 30fps on the XSX which I understand is actually a detriment given the gameplay? Like no option to drop the resolution down like you can on PC if you want to boost the fps --- Advice from a dryer: Open the door to amazement. Don't shrink from your true calling. Accept life's wrinkles. Avoid overload. Reach into mystery! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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008Zulu 04/26/25 8:32:12 PM #39: |
The game's main story was a poor rehash of Skyrim's. --- If you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you're just a bad person on a leash. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NoxObscuras 04/26/25 8:32:34 PM #40: |
PoopPotato posted... The lack of dungeon variety was the greatest hindrance for me.This is the biggest thing. There are 1000+ planets in the game and 90+% of them have barren surfaces with the exact same copy/pasted interiors. There's not enough variance in their procedural generation. The other big issue is that for a "space exploration" game, the amount of things you can actually do in space are very limited. There's a small playable area near each planet, but to land on the planet, or travel to another planet, you have to go into a loading screen. You can't fly from one planet to another. And pre-release, they hyped up the customizable space ship and space travel so much. So that was pretty disappointing. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mechu 04/26/25 8:36:01 PM #41: |
Will_VIIII posted... Locked to 30fps on the XSX which I understand is actually a detriment given the gameplay?Xbox was given 60fps in an update, although I don't know how consistent it actually is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate_reaver 04/26/25 8:49:14 PM #42: |
Phoro posted... What are you talking about? The Oblivion remake just dropped and people are lapping it up. Including me. yeah that's what I mean, y'all enjoy that slop pretty consistently so it was surprising to see --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kisai 04/26/25 8:50:03 PM #43: |
I actually didn't mind Starfield. It was the only Bethesda game whose story I finished, but that's partially because I heard about the ending and --- WHO MODS THE MODERATORS? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HighSeraph 04/26/25 8:50:28 PM #44: |
ultimate_reaver posted... yeah that's what I mean, y'all enjoy that slop pretty consistently so it was surprising to seeI don't like popular thing either! --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phoro 04/26/25 9:04:57 PM #45: |
ultimate_reaver posted... yeah that's what I mean, y'all enjoy that slop pretty consistently so it was surprising to see --- It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it. - George Carlin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lonestar2000 04/26/25 9:11:32 PM #46: |
creativerealms posted... Modders didn't show up to fix it.It didn't help Bethesda locked proper mod support behind making mods for the Creation Club. --- Rumble Roses. Someone enters the room. Them: O_O Me: What?! I always play games without my pants on!- Inmate 922335 #ImprisonToadDickTrump ... Copied to Clipboard!
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snake_5036 04/26/25 9:46:37 PM #47: |
So you know how in open worlds, part of the appeal is going to an objective and finding a dozen things on the way there that you check out first? Now imagine all of that relegated to hitting an icon on the map and just going straight to the objective without any opportunity to explore (and when you do explore, there just isn't anything). That's where Starfield fucked up. "It's outdated" "It uses Creation Engine" these just don't matter at all, given how people ate up Oblivion: But Now With Unreal 5 Graphics. Starfield cut out the part everyone likes in Bethesda games and replaced it with nothing. --- You felt your sins weighing on your neck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 04/26/25 9:51:10 PM #48: |
snake_5036 posted... So you know how in open worlds, part of the appeal is going to an objective and finding a dozen things on the way there that you check out first?It's not just that. The game has thousands of locations to find, but only a handful of area types with the same layout. Raider camps that took over a facility have the exact same structure, right down to the same dead body and loot placements. It actually made me miss randomly generated sections. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KiwiTerraRizing 04/26/25 9:53:45 PM #49: |
Their shitty game engine needs to go. --- Trucking Legend Don Schneider! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 04/26/25 10:10:34 PM #50: |
loafy013 posted... Really? Because every time I've heard somebody say they don't care for Skyrim, the response is to use *list of mods* so they'll understand why its a great game.Well, wasn't the game also a success on consoles? Good games generally gets mods, Bethesda thought it was the opposite and good mods gets a game. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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