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ZMythos 06/23/25 3:29:44 PM #1:	Please answer the question below. You can elaborate as much or as little as you desire. I will not comment on any particular result. What numbers go in the blanks? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2f1a873a.png --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:985538659] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Please answer the question below. You can elaborate as much or as little as you desire. I will not comment on any particular result. What numbers go in the blanks?https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2f1a873a.png</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaiCSC 06/23/25 3:31:39 PM #2:	7 12 --- I Shot the Sheriff. <cite>JaiCSC posted [p:985538684] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>712</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
philsov 06/23/25 3:33:04 PM #3:	-17 12 --- Remember that I won't rest, 'til we share the same tense Just know, to me, you're better late than never again. <cite>philsov posted [p:985538697] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>-1712</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 06/23/25 3:33:21 PM #4:	12, 17. The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:985538701] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>12, 17.The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon 06/23/25 3:34:08 PM #5:	ai123 posted... 12, 17. The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers. That's what I got too. I am also scared. --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg <cite>Accolon posted [p:985538712] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>12, 17.The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers.</quote>That's what I got too. I am also scared. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlveinFencer 06/23/25 3:34:10 PM #6:	It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation. --- Boku wa Dhaos wo taosu! This board is a daycare with no adults.-HoshinoKatta <cite>AlveinFencer posted [p:985538714] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shamino 06/23/25 3:34:10 PM #7:	7, 12 8+4=7+5=12 It's an equality statement --- Switch/PC 16 GB 6700k RTX 3080 Cards/Suns/Former Celtics/Diamondbacks/ASU Fan <cite>Shamino posted [p:985538715] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>7, 128+4=7+5=12It's an equality statement </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxKrazyChaosxX 06/23/25 3:34:34 PM #8:	69 --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone <cite>XxKrazyChaosxX posted [p:985538723] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>69</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 06/23/25 3:34:39 PM #9:	Pikachu Batman Symbol --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:985538725] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>PikachuBatman Symbol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GetMagnaCarter 06/23/25 3:35:02 PM #10:	8+4 = 7+5 = 12 --- "Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did She die in vain?" <cite>GetMagnaCarter posted [p:985538730] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>8+4 = 7+5 = 12 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 06/23/25 3:35:12 PM #11:	JaiCSC posted... 7 12 --- https://i.imgur.com/286sD4e.png http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:985538734] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>JaiCSC posted... </cite><quote>712</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 06/23/25 3:36:13 PM #12:	7, 12 --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:985538744] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>7, 12</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 06/23/25 3:36:32 PM #13:	AlveinFencer posted... It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation. there is one correct way to view the equation. the syntax is not ambiguous --- https://i.imgur.com/286sD4e.png http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:985538748] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>AlveinFencer posted... </cite><quote>It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation.</quote>there is one correct way to view the equation. the syntax is not ambiguous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VRX3000 06/23/25 3:36:45 PM #14:	Assuming Im trying to make all 3 sides of the equation equal 8+4=12 so 7+5 also equals 12 so the blanks are 7 and 12 --- ~ my improv troupe ~ www.forgetfulsquirrels.com <cite>VRX3000 posted [p:985538750] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Assuming Im trying to make all 3 sides of the equation equal8+4=12 so7+5 also equals 12so the blanks are 7 and 12</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon 06/23/25 3:36:50 PM #15:	How is anyone getting a 7? --- http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg <cite>Accolon posted [p:985538752] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>How is anyone getting a 7?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 06/23/25 3:39:25 PM #16:	Accolon posted... How is anyone getting a 7? 8 + 4 = x + 5, and you think x is something other than 7? --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:985538776] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Accolon posted... </cite><quote>How is anyone getting a 7?</quote>8 + 4 = x + 5, and you think x is something other than 7?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
archizzy 06/23/25 3:40:25 PM #17:	Accolon posted... How is anyone getting a 7? Because that is the number you need to add to 5 to make it equal 12 like the first total from 8+4. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton <cite>archizzy posted [p:985538789] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Accolon posted... </cite><quote>How is anyone getting a 7?</quote>Because that is the number you need to add to 5 to make it equal 12 like the first total from 8+4. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kuuko 06/23/25 3:41:48 PM #18:	Accolon posted... How is anyone getting a 7? If you read the problem as a set of equalities then you would do 7 and 12 to make all 3 expressions equal. Syntactically that's what the problem would be read as. If you read the problem as like a set of sequential expressions where each answer becomes a variable in the next expression then you would do 12 and 17. This wouldn't actually ever be written like this on one line. But if you were to input everything in here in order on a calculator then you would get that kind of a result. --- https://i.imgur.com/dzGMd.png <cite>Kuuko posted [p:985538800] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Accolon posted... </cite><quote>How is anyone getting a 7?</quote>If you read the problem as a set of equalities then you would do 7 and 12 to make all 3 expressions equal. Syntactically that's what the problem would be read as.If you read the problem as like a set of sequential expressions where each answer becomes a variable in the next expression then you would do 12 and 17. This wouldn't actually ever be written like this on one line. But if you were to input everything in here in order on a calculator then you would get that kind of a result.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 06/23/25 3:42:05 PM #19:	Accolon posted... How is anyone getting a 7? 8+4 (is the same as) 7+5 (is the same as) 12. But I just did it as if I was adding up my shopping. 8 + 4 is 12, and another 5, that's 17. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:985538806] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Accolon posted... </cite><quote>How is anyone getting a 7?</quote>8+4 (is the same as) 7+5 (is the same as) 12.But I just did it as if I was adding up my shopping. 8 + 4 is 12, and another 5, that's 17.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 06/23/25 3:51:21 PM #20:	I like the discussion. Thanks for the input! I was presented with this problem in my master's program and wanted to see others' reactions to it. --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:985538904] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>I like the discussion. Thanks for the input! I was presented with this problem in my master's program and wanted to see others' reactions to it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/23/25 3:56:49 PM #21:	12 and 17 Im looking at it like a calculator instead of an equation --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:985538960] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>12 and 17Im looking at it like a calculator instead of an equation </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 06/23/25 4:01:05 PM #22:	This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:985539005] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 06/23/25 4:53:23 PM #23:	divot1338 posted... This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison. I mean I intentionally typed the wrong answer lol --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:985539616] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison.</quote>I mean I intentionally typed the wrong answer lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 06/23/25 4:59:49 PM #24:	ai123 posted... 12, 17. The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers. My first thought was this as well, because I've never seen an equality written this way. It's dumb, but that's probably the point. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:985539681] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>12, 17.The elaboration I will provide is that it felt like a trap, and now I am concerned that I will appear to be an idiot because of my foolish answers.</quote>My first thought was this as well, because I've never seen an equality written this way. It's dumb, but that's probably the point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Spidey5 06/23/25 5:01:58 PM #25:	A spoon! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/Strangeone2007.png https://i.imgur.com/wfUGrp5.gif <cite>Spidey5 posted [p:985539702] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>A spoon!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightRender 06/23/25 5:52:15 PM #26:	I interpreted the OP as a fill in the blanks question, to which 7 and 12 are the right answers. That said, if I saw 8 + 4 = 12 + 5 = 17 in someone's hand written notes/scratchwork, it would make perfect sense. --- Dedicated to D - 4/15/05 <cite>NightRender posted [p:985540227] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>I interpreted the OP as a fill in the blanks question, to which 7 and 12 are the right answers. That said, if I saw 8 + 4 = 12 + 5 = 17 in someone's hand written notes/scratchwork, it would make perfect sense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Evening_Dragon 06/23/25 5:53:47 PM #27:	JaiCSC posted... 7 12 --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide <cite>Evening_Dragon posted [p:985540250] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>JaiCSC posted... </cite><quote>712</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 6:06:30 PM #29:	AlveinFencer posted... It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation. It...really can't. It is not mathematically correct to just add things onto equations. 5 + 4 = 9 + 10 = 19 is not a mathematically correct statement regardless of the intent behind it. There's actually a surprisingly large amount of pedagogical research about how many elementary teachers do a piss-poor job when it comes to teaching what the "=" symbol means and what the word "equals" means, and it correlates with poor mathematical achievement in the long run. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985540393] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>AlveinFencer posted... </cite><quote>It could go one of two ways. It's either 7 and 12, or 12 and 17. It depends on how you view the equation.</quote>It...really can't.It is not mathematically correct to just add things onto equations.5 + 4 = 9 + 10 = 19 is not a mathematically correct statement regardless of the intent behind it. There's actually a surprisingly large amount of pedagogical research about how many elementary teachers do a piss-poor job when it comes to teaching what the "=" symbol means and what the word "equals" means, and it correlates with poor mathematical achievement in the long run.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 6:09:30 PM #30:	NightRender posted... I interpreted the OP as a fill in the blanks question, to which 7 and 12 are the right answers. That said, if I saw 8 + 4 = 12 + 5 = 17 in someone's hand written notes/scratchwork, it would make perfect sense. Yeah, it's one of those things which, as a teacher, you wouldn't mark wrong, but you would not want to demonstrate to your students either. An extreme example would be 0 + 0 = 0 + 5 = 5...hopefully we all agree that 0 is not equal to 5. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985540428] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>NightRender posted... </cite><quote>I interpreted the OP as a fill in the blanks question, to which 7 and 12 are the right answers. That said, if I saw 8 + 4 = 12 + 5 = 17 in someone's hand written notes/scratchwork, it would make perfect sense.</quote>Yeah, it's one of those things which, as a teacher, you wouldn't mark wrong, but you would not want to demonstrate to your students either.An extreme example would be 0 + 0 = 0 + 5 = 5...hopefully we all agree that 0 is not equal to 5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 06/23/25 6:10:21 PM #31:	divot1338 posted... This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison. i dont think not being poor at math is a good metric by which to measure humanity --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:985540441] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>This topic like all Ce math topics makes me simultaneously sad for humanity and happy that Im clearly going to be fine by comparison.</quote>i dont think not being poor at math is a good metric by which to measure humanity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfDevsman 06/23/25 6:10:29 PM #32:	SSj4Wingzero posted... It...really can't. It is not mathematically correct to just add things onto equations. 5 + 4 = 9 + 10 = 19 is not a mathematically correct statement regardless of the intent behind it. There's actually a surprisingly large amount of pedagogical research about how many elementary teachers do a piss-poor job when it comes to teaching what the "=" symbol means and what the word "equals" means, and it correlates with poor mathematical achievement in the long run. That actually does get a little tricky, because there are cases where = is used for assignment. One example is in sigma/pi notation for sums/products. But those cases are so vastly outnumbered by cases where it denotes equality that it's hardly worth mentioning. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ <cite>ReturnOfDevsman posted [p:985540444] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>It...really can't.It is not mathematically correct to just add things onto equations.5 + 4 = 9 + 10 = 19 is not a mathematically correct statement regardless of the intent behind it. There's actually a surprisingly large amount of pedagogical research about how many elementary teachers do a piss-poor job when it comes to teaching what the "=" symbol means and what the word "equals" means, and it correlates with poor mathematical achievement in the long run.</quote>That actually does get a little tricky, because there are cases where = is used for assignment. One example is in sigma/pi notation for sums/products.But those cases are so vastly outnumbered by cases where it denotes equality that it's hardly worth mentioning.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightRender 06/23/25 6:10:33 PM #33:	I'm not going to add line breaks to my own personal notebook just to make sure someone else can read it. I'm just trying to add a few small numbers while looking them up one by one and keeping track of the subtotals. --- Dedicated to D - 4/15/05 <cite>NightRender posted [p:985540447] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>I'm not going to add line breaks to my own personal notebook just to make sure someone else can read it. I'm just trying to add a few small numbers while looking them up one by one and keeping track of the subtotals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 6:38:25 PM #34:	ReturnOfDevsman posted... That actually does get a little tricky, because there are cases where = is used for assignment. One example is in sigma/pi notation for sums/products. But those cases are so vastly outnumbered by cases where it denotes equality that it's hardly worth mentioning. True, and those cases really don't arise until you get to a higher level of mathematics conceptual understanding. I've recently been exploring (personally, anyway) how different languages use different words to describe various mathematical terminologies, and I'm thinking about doing some research about how this is correlated with a different level of mathematical understanding. For example, in English, we use the word "equal" to represent/explain the mathematical symbol "=", but we really don't use the word "equal" in any other context, so many students really don't know what it means or what it represents. Compared to a language like Chinese, where the word (deng yu) is used to represent the "=" sign, so it certainly has that meaning, but it's also used as a word in casual conversation. For example, if I were to say the English sentence "Exercising every day does not mean that you will lose weight", in Chinese, I might say - the word in this context is more like "mean" - so in the Chinese language, the word we use for "=" is also used to denote whether or not two things have the same meaning/value, so even the word in Chinese used to explain "=" alone has much more meaning than the English word "equals". Might that explain why even Chinese students with limited language skills tend to fare better in math than their English-speaking counterparts? That's probably not the only reason, but it might be a small part of it. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985540770] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfDevsman posted... </cite><quote>That actually does get a little tricky, because there are cases where = is used for assignment. One example is in sigma/pi notation for sums/products.But those cases are so vastly outnumbered by cases where it denotes equality that it's hardly worth mentioning.</quote>True, and those cases really don't arise until you get to a higher level of mathematics conceptual understanding.I've recently been exploring (personally, anyway) how different languages use different words to describe various mathematical terminologies, and I'm thinking about doing some research about how this is correlated with a different level of mathematical understanding.For example, in English, we use the word "equal" to represent/explain the mathematical symbol "=", but we really don't use the word "equal" in any other context, so many students really don't know what it means or what it represents.Compared to a language like Chinese, where the word (deng yu) is used to represent the "=" sign, so it certainly has that meaning, but it's also used as a word in casual conversation. For example, if I were to say the English sentence "Exercising every day does not mean that you will lose weight", in Chinese, I might say - the word in this context is more like "mean" - so in the Chinese language, the word we use for "=" is also used to denote whether or not two things have the same meaning/value, so even the word in Chinese used to explain "=" alone has much more meaning than the English word "equals". Might that explain why even Chinese students with limited language skills tend to fare better in math than their English-speaking counterparts? That's probably not the only reason, but it might be a small part of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnsteadyOwl 06/23/25 7:00:35 PM #36:	7 12 --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:985540976] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>712</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 7:16:28 PM #37:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] So, entertain everyone - what does "equals" mean? Kinda seems like a bit of a cop-out move to throw dirt at people in a topic for answering something wrong without at least writing your own answer --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985541120] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> So, entertain everyone - what does "equals" mean? Kinda seems like a bit of a cop-out move to throw dirt at people in a topic for answering something wrong without at least writing your own answer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
markconig 06/23/25 8:07:21 PM #38:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Topics like these always make me laugh because someone always comes in and says something vague like "people are so dumb, there's obviously a correct answer" but never says their side, almost like they're afraid of getting it wrong themselves but wants people to think they're so smart. Anyway, my answer is 7 and 12. --- I am a juggler/prop manipulator/fire performer, here's my channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/markconigliaro <cite>markconig posted [p:985541587] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Topics like these always make me laugh because someone always comes in and says something vague like "people are so dumb, there's obviously a correct answer" but never says their side, almost like they're afraid of getting it wrong themselves but wants people to think they're so smart.Anyway, my answer is 7 and 12.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 06/23/25 8:20:11 PM #39:	SSj4Wingzero posted... So, entertain everyone - what does "equals" mean? Kinda seems like a bit of a cop-out move to throw dirt at people in a topic for answering something wrong without at least writing your own answer Equals as we all know comes from the Latin word equus or horse. So obviously what you mean by equals is were just horsing around and anything goes. --- Moustache twirling villain https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:985541734] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>So, entertain everyone - what does "equals" mean? Kinda seems like a bit of a cop-out move to throw dirt at people in a topic for answering something wrong without at least writing your own answer</quote>Equals as we all know comes from the Latin word equus or horse.So obviously what you mean by equals is were just horsing around and anything goes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 8:54:28 PM #41:	markconig posted... Topics like these always make me laugh because someone always comes in and says something vague like "people are so dumb, there's obviously a correct answer" but never says their side, almost like they're afraid of getting it wrong themselves but wants people to think they're so smart. Anyway, my answer is 7 and 12. Yeah there's always that guy. I think I did forget to state my own answer though. The blanks should be 7 and 12. That said, I totally understand why someone would think 12 and 17, and I think it really does have a lot to do with some fundamental truths about how we teach math in elementary schools (i.e. poorly). Mathematics Education is its own subfield that has a tremendous amount of literature surrounding it - I happen to be a math teacher, so if you're interested, I can find some literature for you about it. It's quite interesting if you want to read about it, but it can also be a bit dry. --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985542173] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>markconig posted... </cite><quote>Topics like these always make me laugh because someone always comes in and says something vague like "people are so dumb, there's obviously a correct answer" but never says their side, almost like they're afraid of getting it wrong themselves but wants people to think they're so smart.Anyway, my answer is 7 and 12.</quote>Yeah there's always that guy.I think I did forget to state my own answer though. The blanks should be 7 and 12.That said, I totally understand why someone would think 12 and 17, and I think it really does have a lot to do with some fundamental truths about how we teach math in elementary schools (i.e. poorly).Mathematics Education is its own subfield that has a tremendous amount of literature surrounding it - I happen to be a math teacher, so if you're interested, I can find some literature for you about it. It's quite interesting if you want to read about it, but it can also be a bit dry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Giacomo_Hawkins 06/23/25 8:59:19 PM #42:	Was your mathematics social experiment to see whether or not you could get a bunch of nerds on a video game website (excuse me, websight) to argue about mathematics? Really reaching for the low-hanging fruit aren't you? --- Will the little voice in the back of my mind screaming "This is a bad idea" please yield the floor. --Mikey Chivalry be hanged, and so will you. <cite>Giacomo_Hawkins posted [p:985542219] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Was your mathematics social experiment to see whether or not you could get a bunch of nerds on a video game website (excuse me, websight) to argue about mathematics? Really reaching for the low-hanging fruit aren't you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 9:09:02 PM #43:	Giacomo_Hawkins posted... Was your mathematics social experiment to see whether or not you could get a bunch of nerds on a video game website (excuse me, websight) to argue about mathematics? Really reaching for the low-hanging fruit aren't you? He said this below: ZMythos posted... I like the discussion. Thanks for the input! I was presented with this problem in my master's program and wanted to see others' reactions to it. TC, I do have to ask...are you a mathematics teacher candidate by any chance? Something like this seems like what I encountered when I was getting my master's degree in teaching mathematics --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985542358] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Giacomo_Hawkins posted... </cite><quote>Was your mathematics social experiment to see whether or not you could get a bunch of nerds on a video game website (excuse me, websight) to argue about mathematics? Really reaching for the low-hanging fruit aren't you?</quote>He said this below:ZMythos posted... </cite><quote>I like the discussion. Thanks for the input! I was presented with this problem in my master's program and wanted to see others' reactions to it.</quote>TC, I do have to ask...are you a mathematics teacher candidate by any chance? Something like this seems like what I encountered when I was getting my master's degree in teaching mathematics</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 06/23/25 9:58:31 PM #44:	SSj4Wingzero posted... TC, I do have to ask...are you a mathematics teacher candidate by any chance? Something like this seems like what I encountered when I was getting my master's degree in teaching mathematics No I've been teaching for 8 years. Not a candidate, just a grad student. --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:985542938] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>TC, I do have to ask...are you a mathematics teacher candidate by any chance? Something like this seems like what I encountered when I was getting my master's degree in teaching mathematics</quote>No I've been teaching for 8 years. Not a candidate, just a grad student. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 06/23/25 10:11:16 PM #45:	ZMythos posted... No I've been teaching for 8 years. Not a candidate, just a grad student. Ah, gotcha! Master's or PhD? I just finished my 6th year of teaching myself - got my master's a while back --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:985543105] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite><quote>No I've been teaching for 8 years. Not a candidate, just a grad student.</quote>Ah, gotcha! Master's or PhD?I just finished my 6th year of teaching myself - got my master's a while back</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 06/23/25 11:34:11 PM #46:	gonna be honest the way it is a large blank and all presented in a line like that makes me instinctively think sequential questions so I would put 12 and 17 (yes I know 8+4 does not equal 12+5 but as presented this doesn't feel to me like what is being asked) --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:985543808] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>gonna be honest the way it is a large blank and all presented in a line like that makes me instinctively think sequential questionsso I would put 12 and 17(yes I know 8+4 does not equal 12+5 but as presented this doesn't feel to me like what is being asked)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZMythos 06/24/25 6:53:49 AM #48:	SSj4Wingzero posted... Ah, gotcha! Master's or PhD? I just finished my 6th year of teaching myself - got my master's a while back Masters in Education with a Grad Certificate in Mathematics for Teachers. I have a Bachelor's in Mathematics Education ages 12-21 --- Jump! Jump! Slide! Slide! <cite>ZMythos posted [p:985545783] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>SSj4Wingzero posted... </cite><quote>Ah, gotcha! Master's or PhD?I just finished my 6th year of teaching myself - got my master's a while back</quote>Masters in Education with a Grad Certificate in Mathematics for Teachers. I have a Bachelor's in Mathematics Education ages 12-21</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 06/24/25 7:26:42 AM #49:	Im so confused how is 8+4 not 12 <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:985545967] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Im so confused how is 8+4 not 12 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kanaya413 06/24/25 7:28:56 AM #50:	Shamino posted... 7, 12 8+4=7+5=12 It's an equality statement Oh <cite>Kanaya413 posted [p:985545981] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Shamino posted... </cite><quote>7, 128+4=7+5=12It's an equality statement</quote>Oh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shamino 06/24/25 12:31:08 PM #51:	Kanaya413 posted... Oh After reading the entire thread I'm not correct, apparently. But this feels like the same sort of gotcha as 4+2(1+1)=8 or 12 depending on order of operations. The issue is that you would never see TCs original question or the problem I just presented in anything except a math class or internet trying to start a debate about which is correct, as neither is, iirc, correct math notation. --- Switch/PC 16 GB 6700k RTX 3080 Cards/Suns/Former Celtics/Diamondbacks/ASU Fan <cite>Shamino posted [p:985548552] in Help me wi... [t:81003234]...</cite> <quote>Kanaya413 posted... </cite><quote>Oh</quote>After reading the entire thread I'm not correct, apparently. But this feels like the same sort of gotcha as 4+2(1+1)=8 or 12 depending on order of operations. The issue is that you would never see TCs original question or the problem I just presented in anything except a math class or internet trying to start a debate about which is correct, as neither is, iirc, correct math notation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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