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hivebent4life
08/13/25 1:28:39 AM
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https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-relocation-south-sudan-15191c194cb6f972bc627a382d830edd

This is essentially the same as Hitlers own original plan for the Jews themselves. Israel is a fascist state.

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SecretBase
08/13/25 1:32:48 AM
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"Israel has a right to exist, but Palestine doesn't!"

Fuck you Israel. Piece of shit country thriving off of American welfare. Netanyahu and friends will burn in hell.

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OniLink5000
08/13/25 1:37:00 AM
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remember, if you are against ethnic cleansing, you are an antisemite

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Scardude
08/13/25 1:38:15 AM
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SecretBase posted...
"Israel has a right to exist, but Palestine doesn't!"

Fuck you Israel. Piece of shit country thriving off of American welfare. Netanyahu and friends will burn in hell.
Not only the US

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buddah86
08/13/25 2:35:02 AM
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I wonder what people would think about this if we could go back to WW2 and tell them this. They'd probably laugh in our face and tell us we're mad or something....

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Zikten
08/13/25 2:37:51 AM
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buddah86 posted...
I wonder what people would think about this if we could go back to WW2 and tell them this. They'd probably laugh in our face and tell us we're mad or something....
Maybe if you brought video of the news in 2025 and showed it to them
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Distant_Rainbow
08/13/25 3:24:41 AM
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Ah yes. Imitating Hitler's ol' 'Madagascar Plan' for the Jews.

Now we wait for logistical problems and/or South Sudan eventually telling Israel to screw themselves to make this plan unfeasible, and then for Israel to cook up their own version of Zyklon B and 'showering facilities'.

It is abominable, unnerving, horrifying, and all other such things that after all those atrocities Hitler committed, Netanyahu idolizes him so much to copy him like this.

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Zikten
08/13/25 3:28:25 AM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
Ah yes. Imitating Hitler's ol' 'Madagascar Plan' for the Jews.

Now we wait for logistical problems and/or South Sudan eventually telling Israel to screw themselves to make this plan unfeasible, and then for Israel to cook up their own version of Zyklon B and 'showering facilities'.

It is abominable, unnerving, horrifying, and all other such things that after all those atrocities Hitler committed, Netanyahu idolizes him so much to copy him like this.
And then the world acts shocked and pretends like they never thought this would happen. And vow "never again" until the next "again". The cycle of history
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Ubergeneral3
08/13/25 4:32:21 AM
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south sudan is currently experencing famine and civil war. How is this feasible?

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CobraGT
08/13/25 4:32:37 AM
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... Its unclear how far the talks have advanced, but if implemented, the plans would amount to transferring people from one war-ravaged land at risk of famine to another, ...

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hivebent4life
08/13/25 4:33:53 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
south sudan is currently experencing famine and civil war. How is this feasible?
That only makes Netanyahu salivate more at the thought.

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Thanatos_the_Great
08/13/25 5:47:11 AM
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hivebent4life posted...
This is essentially the same as Hitlers own original plan for the Jews themselves.

And when the Nazis decided that was unworkable, we know what they did instead.

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tremain07
08/13/25 6:13:10 AM
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This is scary because if they truly get away with this they aren't gonna stop they'll just move on to the next group, just like Putin won't stop with Ukraine and Trump won't and hasn't stopped with immigrates, LGBTQ people and women, to quote Optimus Prime " They'll never stop at one".

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Foppe
08/13/25 6:14:45 AM
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Distant_Rainbow posted...
It is abominable, unnerving, horrifying, and all other such things that after all those atrocities Hitler committed, Netanyahu idolizes him so much to copy him like this.
Remember, he used to say that "Hitler was a pretty nice guy that just wanted to kick out Jews from Germany until Palestina forced him to kill them".

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Solar_Crimson
08/13/25 6:28:04 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
south sudan is currently experencing famine and civil war. How is this feasible?
He doesn't care. Or rather, if Israel won't kill them, the conditions of Sudan will, and then to the world, it will be on Sudan's head.

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Aressar
08/13/25 6:38:03 AM
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Meanwhile some NATO countries might give an occasional comment of disapproval, but will 100% allow it to happen.

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M1Astray
08/13/25 6:39:56 AM
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What frustrates me is how so much of the developed non-USA world is continuing to wag disproving fingers and say they're sending very annoyed letters to Israel. Even while Netanyahu is flat out saying they're going to take basically the entire population of Gaza and throw them in a camp which will be presumably run by the same psychopaths shooting into the crowds of people desperately trying to get aid.

The parallels between the Israeli governments current trajectory and what Nazi Germany did are blatant and observed by everybody. But yeah sure, strongly worded letters will do a thing.

Even the recent recognizing of Palestine by some nations like my own Australia. It's like, who gives a single fuck, really? Do they seriously believe Israel does, that Israel won't just carry on doing what they're doing? It's just a slight escalation of the strongly worded letter and will be going into the same shredder that Netanyahu's been sending those letters.

Fucking infuriating cowardly world. Not just because of the allowance of the genocide, but also because anybody with a brain knows where this is going and that the milksops in the developed world will be forced to pick a side at some point, but as usual the spineless will do it far too late and after far too much has happened that can never be undone.

Lest we forget is such a fraudulent saying. Should have been "lest we forget unless it's inconvenient."

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DnDer
08/13/25 6:40:40 AM
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Ubergeneral3 posted...
south sudan is currently experencing famine and civil war. How is this feasible?

Same way it's feasible for Trump to send ICE-renditioned legal migrants and American citizens there.

That is to say, it's entirely too feasible until someone with enough leverage tells them they can't.

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jumi
08/13/25 6:44:08 AM
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"Never again (unless we do it)."

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DnDer
08/13/25 6:44:24 AM
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M1Astray posted...
Even the recent recognizing of Palestine by some nations like my own Australia. It's like, who gives a single f***, really? Do they seriously believe Israel does, that Israel won't just carry on doing what they're doing?

Maybe legally recognizing Palestine opens some legal doors for support and intensively aid that are only available to recognized sovereign countries?

It's the only thing I could think of. Like how you need a nation to declare proper war against, maybe you need a nation to send proper aid to?

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Funkydog
08/13/25 6:52:37 AM
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It will be weird in however many years when we teach our kids the horrors of the nazi's and then... Israel doing exactly what was done to them.

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hivebent4life
08/13/25 6:56:27 AM
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DnDer posted...
Maybe legally recognizing Palestine opens some legal doors for support and intensively aid that are only available to recognized sovereign countries?

It's the only thing I could think of. Like how you need a nation to declare proper war against, maybe you need a nation to send proper aid to?
Taiwan disproves this

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Trumble
08/13/25 7:33:46 AM
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Israel must be completely disarmed if it is to continue to exist. Nothing less is acceptable.

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Scardude
08/13/25 9:41:54 AM
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Funkydog posted...
It will be weird in however many years when we teach our kids the horrors of the nazi's and then... Israel doing exactly what was done to them.
Don't forget the US at the same time.

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Bass
08/13/25 9:46:50 AM
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It is absolutely wild to be that Israel has essentially became the modern version of Nazi Germany. Where the fuck is the empathy? How could you do the very same things that were done to your people to others like this? It boggles my mind even though nothing should surprise me anymore.

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DUKLegend
08/13/25 9:56:03 AM
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Funkydog posted...
It will be weird in however many years when we teach our kids the horrors of the nazi's and then... Israel doing exactly what was done to them.

And worse, them using THAT as a shield for playing it out.

What absolutely sucks is that Israel isn't and shouldn't be representative of the entire Jewish population, but doomed all of them to a future of antisemitism.
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monkmith
08/13/25 10:03:23 AM
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Trumble posted...
Israel must be completely disarmed if it is to continue to exist. Nothing less is acceptable.
thanks to the british they have nukes and the will to use them. how do you propose to disarm them?

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2001mark
08/13/25 10:04:57 AM
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As if
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Scardude
08/13/25 10:08:22 AM
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monkmith posted...
thanks to the british they have nukes and the will to use them. how do you propose to disarm them?
This is the point most people forget when they bring it up. It's the same reason Pakistan is left alone despite creating terrorism groups. No one will touch a nuclear power.

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Akuryu
08/13/25 10:40:53 AM
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Well, at least we saved the Palestinians from Kamala Harris.
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monkmith
08/13/25 10:43:48 AM
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Akuryu posted...
Well, at least we saved the Palestinians from Kamala Harris.
the thought of HER LAUGH while israel carpet bombs civilians honestly sends shivers down my spine!

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mustachedmystic
08/13/25 12:00:50 PM
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I have said this before, and I will say it again, no one, anywhere, gives a damn about the Palestinians, other than to use them as a wedge against Israel. Also, at this point, I cannot fathom how anyone could consider Israel the good guys. There are none, except the innocent civilians.

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xAzNPimP4LiFex
08/13/25 12:10:01 PM
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god damn poor guys.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/25 12:16:41 PM
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hivebent4life posted...
https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-relocation-south-sudan-15191c194cb6f972bc627a382d830edd

This is essentially the same as Hitlers own original plan for the Jews themselves. Israel is a fascist state.

Hitler didn't have a plan. His order was simply "begin the ethnic cleansing" but the people who took more extreme measures got better rewards & promotions creating this kind of atrocity arms race of who could remove Jews in the most extreme way possible and literally nothing was too extreme for Hitler.

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ai123
08/13/25 12:19:10 PM
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mustachedmystic posted...
I have said this before, and I will say it again, no one, anywhere, gives a damn about the Palestinians, other than to use them as a wedge against Israel.

This is basically the 'any support for Palestinians is really anti semitism' argument, as used ad nauseum by Netanyahu.

I do not accept it.


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El_Dustino
08/13/25 12:26:17 PM
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Israel really needs to get demilitarized and preferably occupied until they can learn that genocide is wrong. Take the entire leadership out of power and try them for war crimes.

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LightSnake
08/13/25 12:26:47 PM
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Bass posted...
It is absolutely wild to be that Israel has essentially became the modern version of Nazi Germany. Where the fuck is the empathy? How could you do the very same things that were done to your people to others like this? It boggles my mind even though nothing should surprise me anymore.

Because most people don't view the Holocaust as a moral lesson from which they were supposed to learn something. Suffering doesn't matter anyone better people, and in this case a lot of Jews did learn things from it. Just a completely opposite lesson of what you hope for. It wasn't "we should be kind to everyone," it was "our neighbors will kill us and nobody will do anything about it"

That doesn't end up with good outcomes

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El_Dustino
08/13/25 12:30:03 PM
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LightSnake posted...
Because most people don't view the Holocaust as a moral lesson from which they were supposed to learn something. Suffering doesn't matter anyone better people, and in this case a lot of Jews did learn things from it. Just a completely opposite lesson of what you hope for. It wasn't "we should be kind to everyone," it was "our neighbors will kill us and nobody will do anything about it"

That doesn't end up with good outcomes
I don't believe the current Israeli leadership is genociding Palestine out of a sense of self preservation.

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LightSnake
08/13/25 12:31:22 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
I don't believe the current Israeli leadership is genociding Palestine out of a sense of self preservation.

The ethos of feeling threatened is very much at the core of a lot of Israel's atrocities. Like many atrocities in history. That's how most genocides and ethnic cleansings happen

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El_Dustino
08/13/25 12:34:19 PM
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LightSnake posted...
The ethos of feeling threatened is very much at the core of a lot of Israel's atrocities. Like many atrocities in history. That's how most genocides and ethnic cleansings happen
I don't believe the current Israeli leadership feels threatened by the children in the open air prison they are trapped in.

They're basically shooting fish in a barrel, except those fish are human infants.

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LightSnake
08/13/25 1:00:07 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
I don't believe the current Israeli leadership feels threatened by the children in the open air prison they are trapped in.

They're basically shooting fish in a barrel, except those fish are human infants.

Israel 100 percent feels threatened by Palestinian existence, since Palestinians do have a right to the land and should have a right of return.

This is what genocides are predicated on

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Sandalorn
08/13/25 2:02:49 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
I don't believe the current Israeli leadership feels threatened by the children in the open air prison they are trapped in.

They're basically shooting fish in a barrel, except those fish are human infants.


This...no matter how much Lightsnake tries to deny it in some attempt to "explain" what is happening in Gaza.

It has been, is currently, and always will be simply an excuse to genocide a population for land. And EVERYTHING coming from Bibi, the leadership and the IDF proves that. What is happening on the West Bank PROVES that.
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LightSnake
08/13/25 2:09:07 PM
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Sandalorn posted...
This...no matter how much Lightsnake tries to deny it in some attempt to "explain" what is happening in Gaza.

It has been, is currently, and always will be simply an excuse to genocide a population for land. And EVERYTHING coming from Bibi, the leadership and the IDF proves that. What is happening on the West Bank PROVES that.

name me one post where I denied it. One.


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El_Dustino
08/13/25 2:19:39 PM
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LightSnake posted...


This is what genocides are predicated on

I don't follow this, in history most genocides have been either scapegoated populations or people being removed for land.

The American Colonists were not threatened by the native Americans, they wanted the land.

Germany was not threatened by the Jews (or gays or trans people or the others they rounded up), they were a scapegoat to blame Germany's post WW1 position on and persecute to consolidate power.

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LightSnake
08/13/25 2:39:37 PM
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The American Colonists and Germans 100 percent portrayed Natives and Jews as a threat to justify genocide.

and the Jews werent just a scapegoat to consolidate power. The Nazis were true believers in antisemitic ideology. Were seeing the same thing in Gaza where Israelis absolutely hate Palestinians and believe theyre a threat.

A lot of genocides are not predicated on rational belief or truth. Nazis hated Jews. They believed Jews were responsible for the disabled weakening German society, secretly beinging in Gays, preying on German women, promoting racial mixing and all kinds of insane thing. This wasnt something the Nazi high command was winking at one another over. They made it very clear they were ardent antisemites.

Ben-Gvir and Smotrich likewise despise Arabs and view their existence as existential threats in the long and short run. Especially Palestinians.

a lot of genocides, from a purely rational standpoint, are actively bad for the country doing it too. Germany weakened its own military and diverted necessary resources from the war to the Holocaust. Israel is actively fucking over its own government to brutalize its people protesting while becoming an international pariah. Rwanda crippled itself economically, etc etc

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El_Dustino
08/13/25 2:48:35 PM
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Painting the genocided group as a threat is not the same as actually being threatened by them.

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Tyranthraxus
08/13/25 2:52:07 PM
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El_Dustino posted...
Painting the genocided group as a threat is not the same as actually being threatened by them.
No but that doesn't mean the belief isn't genuine.

But I don't think it is in this case. Netanyahu wouldn't have funded Hamas in the first place if he legitimately felt threatened by them. Hitler absolutely did believe Jews were a national security problem.

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Sandalorn
08/13/25 2:54:35 PM
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LightSnake posted...
name me one post where I denied it. One.


I'm not talking about whether you believe a genocide is happening. You have been very clear you do.

This is about whether Bibi and the leadership actually feels threatened by Gaza. You are arguing they do.

They do not.

Tyranthraxus posted...
Netanyahu wouldn't have funded Hamas in the first place if he legitimately felt threatened by them.


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