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Canonically, she's only 6 years younger than Dean (he was born in 79, she was born in 85). Roughly the same age difference as BroShep and Tali in Mass Effect.

This is 100% why I stopped watching. It happened twice at the end of consecutive seasons; and it had already abandoned the monster of the week format, which I liked, in favor of angles/demons unendingly, which I did not like.

I asked my roommate at the time (who is a huge Supernatural fan) about it and he confirmed that was basically the trend every season going forward. I thanked him for saving me a bunch of time and Ive never watched it since.

Though I have been considering watching the first two seasons again, since I remember liking those, and then just stopping.

Every season I watched before giving up starts or ends with one of them dying and the other one moving mountains to bring him back despite being made clear that they DO NOT want to be back and learning nothing of the chaos it causes.

So yeah, toxic fraternal love.

The funny thing about all the iffy-to-bad writing is that the show justifies it in the last couple of seasons by saying that the actual God Almighty - already established to be a mediocre fiction writer - has been just fucking with them for their entire life.

So get rekt nerds

Too immature then

Seasons 1 through 5 are the original vision. Everything afterwards is pure fiction.

Very likeable leads.

I stopped watching around season 8 or 9, did they ever end up addressing Adam again? I know he was briefly brought up in Season 6 but anything after that?

Yes actually.

In the last season, God opens all the gates to Hell which includes Lucifer's cage, so Michael and Adam are freed.

He was a much better actor in his second run. He really made both Adam and Michael believable.

Are you a sam girl or a dean girl?

That last season was powerful. I am not religious at all but I recognize the sensitive nature of the subject matter in S15. I think they achieved a really great ending while avoiding outright offensive stuff, it was pretty thoughtful/creative.

If you gave up on the show around S8/S9 I don't blame you but I would recommend picking it up again. It may never hit the same greatness as the original S1-S5 run but it gets pretty close. My big problem with the several seasons after S5 is that they tried to focus on singular drawn out plotlines and the tone just felt too serious. By about S10 it becomes light-hearted again, the actors feel like they have genuine chemistry and are having genuine fun and there are more MOTW episodes.

the ending to season 15 was rushed and it was such bullshit. The ending should have been Sam and Dean riding off into the sunset in the impala with the world finally being monster free not the bullshit ending we got. Season 15 needs a redo or a continuation.

Wasn't that spinoff supposed to be a continuation of the show? Haven't watched it.

actually
it kinda broke its own lore and that took me out of it

like there are things in previous seasons that wouldn't have happened if Chuck was just an evil narcissist. If they wanted him to be that, fine, but you gotta be consistent. It really came out of nowhere.

To the credit there, it really wasnt out of no where.

People were speculating he was God quite early.

And aside from the many many other contradictions in this series, Chuck turning out to be a huge narcissist wasnt one of them. It actual fits quite well.

Even as early they started talking about angels, it was thrown out pretty early that God doesnt appear to really give a fuck.... given everything that happened in the story at that point. So much so, that even a few characters tossed it out there.

also the character Chuck is where the contradiction lies
rewatch season 11, reconciles with his sister, helps people, then he f***s off

it is obvious as of this season they did not have the idea of him being a bad guy in mind

I'm not a girl, and I like Cas.

In my experience Supernatural lasted 5 seasons because it made you love all its characters while slowly escalating the plot to a perfect crescendo.

then s6-15 you continued watching because the characters were fun. Soon the writing would become borderline bad and youd consider dropping the show and then theyd drop an amazing fun episode or plot hook that was genuinely interesting and youd get invested back. Then the cycle would repeat until it ended

not the God part

also the character Chuck is where the contradiction lies
rewatch season 11, reconciles with his sister, helps people, then he fucks off

it is obvious as of this season they did not have the idea of him being a bad guy in mind

and apparently this is actually fact, the writers admitted they didn't think ahead

so no, it doesn't fit, they kinda were out of options to escalate to a bigger bad and already had Chuck so it was "well, why not just make him evil?" despite his earlier depictions of being that he actually was helping out

for example, who brought Castiel back from the dead? Chuck did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulpn9xfvV1Q

Chuck instead of being upset they didn't kill each other which apparently was supposed to be his plan
was happy about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRw5-eHaNdQ
"I think they did alright!"
wait wait wait but that makes no sense

because yeah
"they made their own choice, which was family, which, isn't that the whole point?"

like cmon

a comment from 8 years ago put it well

8 years ago was before season 15 existed

@controversialopinions3659
8 years ago
Given the fact that Eric Kripke, intended this to be the final ending to Supernatural, I like to think that the ambiguous resurrection of Sam was originally intended to be the work of God. At the beginning of season 5, Raphael states that God is dead and that Lucifer is the one who resurrected Castiel. Lucifer also tells Nick that for God to tell bad things happen he was either sadistic or uncaring. This raised the theme of whether or not God was alive, and if so did he care. In this finally I believe that Kripke tried to answer this questions by proving that God was still alive by having God resurrect Castiel after both Lucifer and Michael were out of the picture proving that he was in fact alive and the one helping the Winchesters all along. As Cas said "He helped maybe more than we know...". Kripke then addresses the question of whether or not he cared for the Winchesters by having Dean be angry at God and demand to know why God did not give him reward for his efforts to stop the end of the world and why he did not bring Sam back for the cage. By ending the series off shortly after Dean's rant on God with Sam's resurrection and his mysterious release from the cage, I believe Kripke has attempting to imply that God heard the words of Dean and resurrected Sam to prove he does care for the Winchesters and has granted Sam and Dean a normal life and family away form their hunting as a reward for their work. this would have been a great way to tie up any loose ends and answer any questions that the 5th season raised. Unfortunately this profound ending was throw out in the sixth season by Sera Gamble who replaced Kripke as show runner. I won't lie, the sixth season was good, but to have Sam's resurrection be changed to the work of Death and Castiel, the themes and questions of God raised in the previous season definitely lost its closure and edge.

Curtis Armstrong honestly doesn't get enough credit for his Metatron (and the basically-Metatrons he does in like six other places).

Guy does "sleazy backstabbing 'man-behind-the-man'" sort of characters like Aidan fuckin' Gillen.

Especially since he does the competent and incompetent versions equally well.

Also did not realize that he's Booger from Revenge of the anerds until I was double-checking his name.

Whenever I watch him I cant not see Booger.

While it isn't a huge part I knew him from Risky Business before I knew him as Booger. It was always weird as I grew up and associated him more with his Booger role when I would rewatch Risky Business. Also love the movie One Crazy Summer he was in. That movie is classic 80's and honestly a pretty good cast.

wtf

You must learn to hock a loogie not with your mouth, but with your soul.

Better Off Dead too.

This whole mountain is pure snow. I think I froze the left side of my brain.

Whenever I watch him I cant not see Booger.

Yeah kinda overrated imo. Did you like Smallville?

write fanfiction about all of them fucking each other.

aren't they brothers?

Oh honey

what? I don't read fanfiction, is incest a regular thing people write about?

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"Let me get at that booty, Sam. Big bro is gonna get him some pie!"

Dean usually bottoms tbh

"Come get this booty, Sam. Little bro gonna get him some pie!"

no, it was about John and Mary before the events of the show took place. It outright contradicted the show and lore.

wow it seriously did not click that Metatron was Booger. I knew he looked familiar but never dug deep enough (no pun intended) to figure out who the actor was.