Fourth most iconic Final Fantasy summon?

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Bahamut, Ifrit, and Shiva are the mainstays, but who comes after them? At one point, I'd have said Ramuh, but he gets left out of a lot of modern FF games, so I'm not sure it's him anymore.

(Also we aren't including summons that are derived from common Final Fantasy beasts, like chocobos, moogles, tonberries, or cactuars or important characters like Gilgamesh)
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I think it might be Knights of Round actually
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Probably Ramuh or Odin.

Though I think Odin is more associated with Norse Mythology/The Avengers than with Final Fantasy, so that probably makes it less likely to be him.
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MZero posted...
I think it might be Knights of Round actually

I almost included them because of how big of a deal they are in FFVII, but I wasn't sure they appeared in enough other things to be the answer.
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I think maybe it's Odin but it's definitely Diablos in my heart.

Also I think Carbuncle is surprisingly high up there even though it's probably not anyone's favorite.
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Thought Titan was obvious, but that might be FFXIV talking.
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It's either Ramuh or Knights of the Round, not Odin, though Doomtrain is obviously the coolest.
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Odin stands out as the 1 hit guy!
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I think it's Ramuh and its not particularly close
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Hbthebattle posted...
I think it's Ramuh and its not particularly close

I just feel like he's not your go-to if you started with FFVII or later.
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Naw screw it I'm doubling down.

It's just gotta be.

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let's not over think it - it's ramuh
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It's Alexander or Leviathan. Both very recognizable and easy to pinpoint as 'final fantasy'.

Honorable mention to Phoenix though. It's not quite there yet but it's gotten significantly more important over time.
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colliding posted...
let's not over think it - it's ramuh

But like

Why
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I've only played like 6 or 7 of the games, but Ramuh would not even have made my top 10 going off my own experience.

My first thought was Alexander.
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Ramuh mainly stands out for FFVI... but that was a lot of people here's first FF, so he gets a big bonus from that.

I wouldn't rank him that high though. Maybe fifth for this poll.
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so theres the obvious Bahamut/Shiva/Ifrit

and I think theres a tier of Ramuh, Leviathan, Titan as the other recurring elemental guys who took a pretty long break. (and maybe youd give the nod to Ramuh on the basis of Thunder being a more consistently prominent element than water and earth) Not being in X or XIII holds them back a bit.

but maybe you could sneak in Odin between the S tier and the A tier, because hes more distinctive than just being one of the elemental guys, hes generally cool and powerful, and hes tied to the main character of one of the games
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Thought Titan was obvious, but that might be FFXIV talking.

i mean i clicked this topic thinking garuda was obviously in the top 3 and she's not even in the poll so i'm even more ffxiv-brained apparently
Ramuh WAS in 13 though, just not as the main eidolon for a playable character
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Dels posted...
i mean i clicked this topic thinking garuda was obviously in the top 3 and she's not even in the poll so i'm even more ffxiv-brained apparently

Lol yeah, Garuda is so prominent that it took me a second to realize literally the only non-MMO game until XVI where Garuda is a summon is FFXV.....and that's only because of the FFXIV crossover.
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
Lol yeah, Garuda is so prominent that it took me a second to realize literally the only non-MMO game until XVI where Garuda is a summon is FFXV.....and that's only because of the FFXIV crossover.

Like a lot of XIV stuff, Garuda as a summon originates in XI. and shes in XVI because Yoshi-P basically just used the main ones from XIV again.

For your Azuarc .
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I don't think of Garuda as a summon, it's more often a boss or even regular monster. It's just the last few games that used it that way.
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Ramuh or Odin.

Ramuh almost entirely because of FFXIV. Beard's too iconic.
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Odin because the ff6 ancient castle story stuck with me

well and he has Lightning

but also FFXI Treasures of Aht Urhgan (tbf that's a shared role in counterpart to Alexander. still better than Ramuh who's more of a generic elemental boss for Summoners)
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
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I picked Odin because of his association with Lightning. Ramuh gets replaced too much for me to put him over Odin.
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Honestly my brain went for a Chocobo, considering how often they're usable cost-efficient summons. And then you have the Fat Chocobo random summoning, or the FFT terror that is a Red chocobo and Choco Meteor (and man, did they ever give that a good shout out in 14)
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Isquen posted...
(and man, did they ever give that a good shout out in 14)
two good shoutouts, even! the alliance raid unlock quest (which was actual hell the first day when everyone was rushing to do it) and Bozja
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colliding posted...
let's not over think it - it's ramuh

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Voted for Ramuh.
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Voted Ramuh
Ramuh is around a lot but I've never found him remotely notable. He's just some old dude. Has he ever had an interesting role in the plot?

I voted Leviathan, who was once on Bahamut's level of importance in the early games but is still an iconic design who is instantly recognisable. Can see the argument for Odin, though.
Voted for Odin but could see argument for Ramuh.
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I assumed Knights of the Round would be one of the top 3. But it's not, and it's not even on the poll! Voted Ramuh because it's spelled the most like Round.
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First thing I thought of was Garuda. Not sure what that says. Is Garuda even a summon, or just a boss?
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yellowwolley posted...
Voted for Odin but could see argument for Ramuh.

What is it though?
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azuarc posted...
First thing I thought of was Garuda. Not sure what that says. Is Garuda even a summon, or just a boss?


Garuda is one of the three main summons usable in 14, when you're not in Bahamut or Phoenix phase. She's usually a boss otherwise, and sometimes not even that (3 and 9 spring to mind.)
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I think it might be Ifrit or Shiva honestly because I think 2-4 are Shiva Ifrit and Odin and everyone else is way below those.

Odin is just more memorable because he's significant in the appearances he's in. Like as far as big MOMENTS go he's a big deal in FF4, FF8, and FF13 which is a nice spread.

Ramuh matters in FF6 and that's about it.

(Voted Odin)
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If you want an argument for Ramuh:

He's one of the few FF original summons. Most of the others are based on mythology.

Isquen posted...
Garuda is one of the three main summons usable in 14, when you're not in Bahamut or Phoenix phase. She's usually a boss otherwise, and sometimes not even that (3 and 9 spring to mind.)
She's the second summon you get in 16, though they're not exactly "summons" there.
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Odin is also a big deal in FFXVI
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Want to say Ramuh
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The other thing with Ramuh is like he's the third of the core elemental ones in the early games

Say in Pokmon Squirtle and Charmander were both major forces in Pokmon and Bulbasaur was largely forgotten since Gen 1 in favor of Pikachu

I think Ixion and Quetzalcoatl and Odin (lol) existing really hurt Ramuh but yeah.
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Lopen posted...
Odin is just more memorable because he's significant in the appearances he's in. Like as far as big MOMENTS go he's a big deal in FF4, FF8, and FF13 which is a nice spread.

Odin is optional in FF4 and FF8. So I wouldn't really say he's significant.

Also Ramuh has a pretty significant role in FF9 and FF16 as well as FF6. Ramuh is also one of Rydia's first summons.
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Ifrit posted...
Odin is optional in FF4 and FF8. So I wouldn't really say he's significant.

Also Ramuh has a pretty significant role in FF9 and FF16 as well as FF6. Ramuh is also one of Rydia's first summons.

Ramuh is part of a very short quest in FFIX where he just serves as a narrator/guide, so I wouldn't call that significant. He's completely overshadowed by multiple other Eidolons who actually do things in that game, particularly Bahamut and Alexander.

"Odin is optional" is about as relevant of an argument as "Vincent is optional." If you're a fan, you found him and those roles are memorable.
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My first thought was Knights of the Round, but then I said "yeah too bad they aren't in a lot of games."

Then I moved onto Ramuh and .... kinda thought the same thing. I remember when we were rating summons last(?) month and I was shocked at how much they've actually neglected him.

Ended up voting for Odin, but it's close between him and thunder grandaddy!
skulltrumpets posted...
Then I moved onto Ramuh and .... kinda thought the same thing. I remember when we were rating summons last(?) month and I was shocked at how much they've actually neglected him.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Ramuh

He's got a buttload of appearances. Wouldn't really call that neglecting him. Since his introduction, he's been in everything other than 8, 10, and 12.
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Ramuh appears a lot, but it feels like he's not a big deal in most of them. Plus "old man with a beard" is pretty small time design wise compared to most other summons. I just don't think he rates highly enough to be 4th, especially if you started with VII or later.
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The only argument I'll buy for Ramuh is Mac's, that he's original to the series and not from anything else. Maybe I'm biased because I started with FF8 where he doesn't appear, and 7 where he does nothing, but I'd have him on the same level as Titan, and there's other cooler lightning summons that I remember better.

Leviathan has a story role in IV as King of the Eidolons, shares equal importance with Bahamut in V, and is a major story feature of maybe the most memorable sequence in XV. That's... probably it, in addition to their consistent and neat design and signature move, but that's not nothing!
I feel like it's an easy Odin
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Here's a fun quiz that I've linked before: https://www.sporcle.com/games/silverwind/ffsummons/

And the top 10 results:
Shiva - 93.3%
Ifrit - 91.7%
Choco - 91.3%
Bahamut - 90.5%
Odin - 85.4%
Chocobo - 81.4%
Leviathan - 80.9%
Ramuh - 78.5%
Titan - 71.6%
Alexander - 69.6%
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