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From: Accel_R8 | #457

also yeah that was for all intents and purposes like, Kirie's bunny. Unless it decides it has it's own name or whatever else, eh?

Right, but the rabbit is nameless right now, and referring it as 'The Rabbit' gets tiresome. So I'm using Jack until it gets a real name, because it's more comfortable.

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It might not be, but I'm calling him Jack until he gets a real name. It's silly to call him Death!

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From: SovietOmega | #448

when did that happen? o_O

Sessions ago.

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From: SovietOmega | #446

death temple?

Yeah, we paid a visit to the ex-temple of Edash, ex-temple of Sharon, now temple of Jack the Rabbit to see if his ascension had been formally recognized yet. Not quite, but it's a matter of time.

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From: SovietOmega | #444

Tirofog posted...

Also, Forget can now be a paladin under the Bunny God of Death. You're welcome. <_<

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welp

You guys are way behind. Why do you think I had her visit the death temple before?

From: Accel_R8 | #441

Decided against boon, obtained Strongheart Tattoo (Paragon).

Now every time I spend a healing surge I get a cumulative 2 more HP with it.

So my last surge of the day packs +20 hp. Jeez. Survivability!

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WISHLIST

Level 18: Circlet of Indomitability (paragon tier)
Level 20: Ring of Agile Thought (paragon tier)
Level 20: Diamond Cincture (paragon tier)
Level 21: Magic Ki Focus +5
Level 21: Amulet of Protection +5
Level 22: Dwarven Nagascale Armor +5

These are mostly for my own reference as many of them I can't even get with item vouchers yet.

Edit: Also, what do you think? Trade Combat Agility for Combat Superiority? Even though my wisdom bonus is +0, it's much simpler to remember "Your opportunity attacks disrupt movement." and moving around too much as the defender seems like a poor idea anyway.

Superiority is godlike. I definitely recommend taking it over Agility. You can always take Agile Superiority to make it key off DEX too.

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Yeah, that's what it means with the encounter power. Once per fight you can mix and match powers, though do note that encounter powers are expended as soon as you use either portion - you don't get to use half in one turn and half on the other.

As for the duration I'm not sure, but if I had to guess, End of Next Turn? Seems to make the most sense to me.

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From: KamikazePotato | #001

http://www.firejaywilson.com/

Or should we just lump them all into 'PC gamers'? That could work too.

This implies Bioware isn't a console company now. Also lol at anyone who thinks this is about PC gamers.

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From: Meow1000 | #045
Was this during the 3 months I was off the board or something? This is the only place I get my gaming news.

I suppose I will look around at PS2 stuff, though.

There are maybe 3 Wii games I ever play out of the 10-12 or so I have (I got 7 of these games for the price of 3 before I even had the system, including a basically free Galaxy), and not one I've bought since getting the system.

I think 4 or 5 of them are still in their original wrapping because I never even bothered to open them either. (Nether has anyone else, for that matter). The Wiimote makes every game I've played with it unplayable or barely playable, so I saw no sense in opening more of them and decided to preserve their value.

I probably should've ebayed this crap a while ago though, and I missed the best time to do it.. Such a waste of money I can't afford to waste again.

Give me a true controller and make most games not dependent on gimmicks, and we'll talk. I put more Gamecube games into my Wii than anything else, and the only two Wii games I've ever used with any sort of consistency are Brawl and Kart, both of which can use a real controller.

So yeah I'm predisposed to hate it due to wasting several hundred on the original Wii.

Assuming it was the last three months, yes, Iwata was super straight and said they were doing redesigns, pics were posted, the whole nine yards. Even if you don't believe the word of mouth about how it was super comfortable (I've spoken with several people who got to try out the controller, and they told me it was great, so it isn't exactly hazy rumors), that it's getting redesigned is a fact.

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From: Meow1000 | #042
From: KanzarisKelshen | #040

From: Meow1000 | #039
In my experience its actually rather hard to even beat computers in Smash with the WiiChuck.

GCN controller for life

GCN controller for lifeFrom: KanzarisKelshen | #034

From: KanzarisKelshen | #028
Yeah, if you're not keeping up with the news and living in Dreamland...kinda hard to get hyped up for anything like that.


There's a reason why Nintendo's stock plummeted when that thing was unveiled. Dropped something like 9% that day.

I find the WiiChuck garbage to be the worst controller I've ever used, and seeing that.... Tablet thing killed my Wii U interest. I regret getting a Wii, it has too many games that are marred by being forced to use that terrible contraption.

That said at least Brawl allows use of the GC controller.

Again, not keeping up with the news here. You are entirely unaware of the fact that it got redesigned, aren't you? Be honest, Blade.



I'd like legit proof of this first, of which I believe there is none. I expected to not like the Wiimote, I just didn't expect to hate it so much.

The Wii duped me though, as I was under the impression that a majority of its games weren't locked into that garbage.

Just having a legit controller wouldn't be enough for me this time without confirmed significant changes to the pad, which I don't see happening.

Go google 'Wii U controller pictures'. If you look closely you'll notice such astonishing facts as the circle pads being replaced with analogs, for instance. I can get you the picture if you're feeling super lazy, though it's going to make you look like a fool, so consider yourself warned.


And is any of it at all confirmed by Nintendo yet?

Because nothing else matters, although it still wouldn't be enough.

I just want the gimmicks gone and for them to remove all semblance of forced motion control like almost every Wii game has. If only Galaxy could use a real controller, I might not absolutely hate it. As long as they stick with gimmicks, I won't be fooled again.

On a side note I am seriously considering a PS2. I have a PSX and getting duped on the Wii made me jump off the Nintendo bandwagon.


Problem is are the really good PS2 games hyper expensive now? Like, it is too late to really get into it?

Yes, they confirmed the redesign. Seriously, this attitude ticks me off. 'Oh yes, it's going to be terrible, based on my preconceptions of it and the fact that I haven't kept up with the news since Day 1!'. Yes, if you decide to hate something blindly you'll find it terrible regardless of any good parts it might have, no matter how good it is. This isn't surprising.

And no, the good PS2 games are mostly still cheap I think.

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From: Meow1000 | #039
In my experience its actually rather hard to even beat computers in Smash with the WiiChuck.

GCN controller for life

GCN controller for lifeFrom: KanzarisKelshen | #034

From: Meow1000 | #030
From: KanzarisKelshen | #028

I also have to say that my hype for SSB4 is dead before it even starts due to the U not having an option to use a legitimate controller, unless the tablet is considerably revamped before release.

Yeah, if you're not keeping up with the news and living in Dreamland...kinda hard to get hyped up for anything like that.


There's a reason why Nintendo's stock plummeted when that thing was unveiled. Dropped something like 9% that day.

I find the WiiChuck garbage to be the worst controller I've ever used, and seeing that.... Tablet thing killed my Wii U interest. I regret getting a Wii, it has too many games that are marred by being forced to use that terrible contraption.

That said at least Brawl allows use of the GC controller.

Again, not keeping up with the news here. You are entirely unaware of the fact that it got redesigned, aren't you? Be honest, Blade.



I'd like legit proof of this first, of which I believe there is none. I expected to not like the Wiimote, I just didn't expect to hate it so much.

The Wii duped me though, as I was under the impression that a majority of its games weren't locked into that garbage.

Just having a legit controller wouldn't be enough for me this time without confirmed significant changes to the pad, which I don't see happening.

Go google 'Wii U controller pictures'. If you look closely you'll notice such astonishing facts as the circle pads being replaced with analogs, for instance. I can get you the picture if you're feeling super lazy, though it's going to make you look like a fool, so consider yourself warned.

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From: Meow1000 | #030
From: KanzarisKelshen | #028

From: Liquid Wind | #024
I also have to say that my hype for SSB4 is dead before it even starts due to the U not having an option to use a legitimate controller, unless the tablet is considerably revamped before release.

Yeah, if you're not keeping up with the news and living in Dreamland...kinda hard to get hyped up for anything like that.


There's a reason why Nintendo's stock plummeted when that thing was unveiled. Dropped something like 9% that day.

I find the WiiChuck garbage to be the worst controller I've ever used, and seeing that.... Tablet thing killed my Wii U interest. I regret getting a Wii, it has too many games that are marred by being forced to use that terrible contraption.

That said at least Brawl allows use of the GC controller.

Again, not keeping up with the news here. You are entirely unaware of the fact that it got redesigned, aren't you? Be honest, Blade.

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From: Liquid Wind | #024
I also have to say that my hype for SSB4 is dead before it even starts due to the U not having an option to use a legitimate controller, unless the tablet is considerably revamped before release.

Yeah, if you're not keeping up with the news and living in Dreamland...kinda hard to get hyped up for anything like that.

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From: SovietOmega | #431
no

NO

NO

NO

Now it was my turn to laugh. But pffffft, we got a more interesting story than ponies could achieve!

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Meenah and Karkat so good, this has so much potential. Can't wait for Rose and Dave to trade some words too, this section should be absolute comedic gold.

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Oh yeah, by the way: I don't suppose it's possible to purchase a super commstone pair in the capital, right? Something like what Valerian was looking for to contact Gwenevere more directly.

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Session summary:

-Returning to the capital after finding traces of the demons' essence, the party found a demonologist who was able to identify it: The master of the demons is the demon lord Gyaral.
-Unfortunately, he proved difficult to track, as Ondal was not using a static portal to bring demons in. As the party considered their options, they were contacted by Shang, the Emperor's brother and advisor, with a plan to track Ondal down: by planting a tracer in a demon who would then retreat back to Ondal's hideout.
-Following Shang's advice, the party chose one of the sites of the most recent attacks and rode out. Finding a group of demons there, they easily dispatched them with the exception of a single hellhound. With Vanessa's help, Valerian tore open a scrap of flesh and placed the tracker inside, before sewing it shut.
-With the tracker in place, the party followed the Hound to the Shane cave system. There, they found the hound...dead! Its tracker had been found!
-Ondal stepped in to mock the heroes. Before he could say much, however, Brona shot him.
-A fierce battle took place. Ondal was an adversary of Epic proportions (literally: he had seven levels on us), but he proved to be no match for the party in the end. What went down was something like this...
-Followed by this:
-Defeated, Ondal spent his last breath mocking the heroes, before revealing a shocking truth: One of the party's allies had been taken hostage and left at the mercy of the Mind-flayer elder brain!
-Dispirited, the party returned to the capital, gripped by fear for their loved ones.
-CLIFFHANGER END.
-Also, we leveled up for killing a foe who was way way WAY outta our league with four guys, derailing Ana's plans to absolute hell. Victory!

Summary for CPU. Also because I love doing them.

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From: tereziWright | #031

From: SSBM_Guy | #032
...that certainly is a comic.

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From: Sceptilesolar | #421
dammit omega stealth was the only skill i was good at

Talky skills?

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From: Sceptilesolar | #415
I saw most of the former, anyway, but I think those are things anyone sane would say about that particular plan.

Then you missed the latter one, which provides a bit more context to our relationship with her. It was definitely very interesting, and it saddens me that it had to end abruptly due to comp troubles.

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More importantly, no spoilered stuff in the first post. You people!

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Saya's definitely changed on-screen, or at least revealed new facets of her personality. You should've seen her conversation with Valerian regarding the cloning plan, and later on the cut conversation about the state of the Shao empire. I don't have the same high opinion of her as Accel does but she's definitely more than just mission control.

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From: KokoroAkechi | #021
IMO

there should be some sort of point based system based on previous results and powers, destruction scales, etc.

Any point system can be gamed. This is a dumb idea. Trust me here, pointbuys can and will be cracked like eggshells.

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From: Wanglicious | #004
terrains i honestly don't know what to think of yet. "neutral" translates to boring or not really neutral.

<_<; halfway thinking of spirit of the contest can take that over too. make the terrain. have people voice opinions on it, see what can work. when it comes to matches a couple ideas stand out - if your character ends up being selected to compete then you can pick up to <insert number> from a list of eligible terrains. if two match up, that's the terrain. if they don't, randomizer ahoy.

ain't perfect, but does make for better terrains and fits thematically.

Yeah, pretty much. You need real terrains or you come down to the speeblitzes. You also need to take out the 'knows there's a fight and wants to win' clause because again, speedblitz. Just 'knows there's a fight' should be enough. Otherwise it's all about making fast dudes and that's boring as hell.

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The best thing to avoid a boring contest is to add terrain. Is this going to be the usual Final Destination Intelligence Doesn't Matter Haw Haw borefest or are you going to make truly neutral terrains?

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Squall

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From: BlackMetalex | #071
In all seriousness things like
Sovreign vs. Luke
Zero vs. Tor
NoN Lelouch vs. Agent Smith
Aang vs. Red
Were all really fun, good matches.
Even if I'm the only person who thinks that Ganon and all the drama with the Yuki matches made the contest way more entertaining, it was still pretty solid. I mean MPFC is just designed to be a set of silly debates, who cares if a few OP or ill defined characters tear up the bracket as long as there are a lot of good matches.
I liked those too, especially the first and last one. It's why, in spite of being sick of the whining after the contest ended, I didn't come off hating the contest or the idea of MPFC. It's a good contest, it just needs competent hosting and I wasn't competent enough. It was my first contest hosting ever, after all.

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From: Kinglicious | #070
Actually I'll just flesh out a bit here before heading home.

Basic start goes to most powerful created fictional character. F/SN system is solid in that you already have stats. You'd make a hero, backstory, put him in a class, etc. All user involvement is only in the before battle phase. Those details are mostly able to be figured out, like how archer always has independent action. Randomizer picks enough people, you go from there. The servants initially know nothing of each other. Initially.

Each win carries two advantages: one is you get free knowledge of a part of their description. For best purposes, it's a random sentence in the selected description of the next opponent. Two is a skill gets used. Master sees the bracket before ending and can pick what skill to use when.

You could shoot for more user involvement, but that's generally a bad thing. Makes it too messy. Not impossible though, makes sense too. All depends on if people would stay, and asking for a bigger contest can be tough. Basically stuck at 16 if so, if not you could easily go higher.


More later, but the hard part is the obvious balance. End of the day that's something no stat system can fix and would need to be case by case. Also as for knowledge the easy way to do that is the name, nps, a character flaw, and... Not sure. But stuff that's actually useful.
Check the OT forums, Wang. Sceptilesolarbeam has beaten you to this with the exact thing you're espousing.

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From: JeffreyRaze | #068
Dammit Kanz, you're cool and all, but you really don't act well at all when MPFC is the discussion.
What can I say? I take the blame for not budging on the rallying rule, for posting matches with an inconsistent schedule and for not being very clear on why I discounted votes in that specific match you probably remember. I am not going to take the blame for the contest being bad due to the reality warpers because I expected people to understand that they were toxic to the contest. I let them do things as they wanted and that was the end result. If I run MPFC again I'll enforce much, much tighter restrictions because I know better now.

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From: Kinglicious | #066
Pretty sure what I have in mind isn't what you think it is. Sure as hell doesn't resemble what bellis had.

Main hard part is figuring the create a character mechanics, as usual.
No, I think I do. You do know that projects exist in other gameFAQS boards, aff? I've seen this before for a different sort of thing.

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From: Kinglicious | #063
and he lost the one fight he probably should've won after all those powers too, ironically enough.

piggybacking on the create your mpc, i don't understand why we haven't merged a fate/stay night kind of setup with mpc. like, that's pretty much what most of fate/extra is.

...think i'll flesh out the idea more later tonight.
There's already someone working on it. Don't bother.

EDIT: Actually, it's two people. It's been done before, several times. It's not as glamorous as you think it is.

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Pfft, all this talk about that and you guys missed the anime-ism on the first picture. Fo' shame!

From: DSAutoResponder | #459
From: KanzarisKelshen | #456

From: DSAutoResponder | #432
hey, we should redo the opening post for the next thread now that we have spoiler tags

make it a little more in depth, maybe


What would you suggest adding to it? I'm all ears.

Probably just a primer on the trolls and maybe the post-scratch kids.

It doesn't need to be a lot, just enough to sate the curiosity of a new or recently caught up fan that wants extra info.
I'll see what I can do then.

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From: XIII_rocks | #056
Kanz

You ran that thing horribly.

Stop blaming the voterbase, you were laughably awful at it.
I am not blaming the voterbase for how I ran it. I take full blame for that. I am placing the blame on them for an entirely different thing.

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From: Kinglicious | #054
People knew.
You didn't.
Really now, Wang? Go search the archives and see if the topic's there. I mentioned that it was risky to nom the reality warpers.

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XIII_rocks posted...

I loved the part where Kanz blamed board 8 for Host's continued presence in the contest

Literally wanted us to vote AGAINST the more powerful character when Host being there was his fault in the first place >_>

Yes, as a countermeasure for people being too dumb not to nominate the reality warpers. Like I said, people don't know what they want. You want an interesting contest, yet still nominated unbeatables. What I did was provide a character that could function as an antibody with as little fuss as possible.

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LeonhartFour posted...

From: KanzarisKelshen | #030
Yes, assuming people have self control was on me, admittedly.
"Yes, me not realizing that people don't know how to vote properly" is a funny way of taking responsibility.

It wasn't about voting properly, Leon, It was about not knowing when to stop running a joke into the ground.

EDIT: And about realizing what they actually wanted and not going out of the way to get the thing that would deny them that into the contest.

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TVontheRadio posted...

ToukaOone posted...

Anyway, the reason MPFC failed most likely has to do with a sort of Gresham's law of argument quality. If I had to say a point where it started happening, The Mask's run in the Movie Contest would qualify, although I don't know enough about that contest nor about the general rate of argument degeneration to say for sure.

A "good" MPFC will never happen again with the current group of users.

looking back, the movie contest was hilarious because of that!

i don't know how anyone can still seriously take these kinds of contests anyway

Define taking them seriously. Do you mean enjoying them? If so it's quite easy to understand why. If you mean thinking they're educated intellectual debates, the truth is that nobody does that and you're either thinking too highly of yourself for being better than all those plebes or too lowly of your fellow B8ers. It's just fun to talk about who'd beat who in a fight.

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GANON1025 posted...

The last MPFCs failed because of the hosts, not the voters. When the contest is a joke, people treat it like one.

Yes, assuming people have self control was on me, admittedly. It's easy to see why Ed Bellis got tired of them - he became utterly disillusioned with the sorry ways of the voters. I haven't, but I can clearly see the things that made him quit. There's ways to fix things, thankfully.

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From: Sceptilesolar | #389
Actually, I know I just recommended Song of Sublime Snowfall, but I just noticed that Hero's Defense exists. Given that Kirie's a bit too fragile for her own good sometimes...
Not a problem when everybody else can be stupidly reckless and thus protect Kirie regardless of cost though.

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Glorious PC master race comeback spotted

Nah just kidding, but it's nice to see a game prove that PC Gaming ain't dead like so many think.

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<p>From: DSAutoResponder | #432
hey, we should redo the opening post for the next thread now that we have spoiler tags

make it a little more in depth, maybe</p>
What would you suggest adding to it? I'm all ears.

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<p>From: GrapefruitKing | #004
I saw it in Montreal last year, but like Roger said in the video, the Quebec City show will have the biggest Wall ever built for the show. 800 feet long. I don't even understand how it's possible</p>
Damn, lucky bastard. Saw him a couple months ago and it was AMAZING. Without spoiling, you're in for a helluva treat. It's seriously The Wall as it should've always been,

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<p>From: IhatethisCPU | #386
Something I've done in combat, ha. Kirie's best moments happen out of it. <_<'

Eh, takin' SoSS, renamed it to Kirie's theme song, though. >_>'

'ere:

Everybody's best moments happen out of combat. Doesn't mean we couldn't find key things Valerian and Brona have done, though! In your case for instance, your classic trick is Inspired Solutions.

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<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #383
Haw, I vote for Deaf to all but the Song. We don't have nearly enough random references.

And seriously, consider that Song of Sublime Snowfall, it's ridiculously good.</p>
And interesting note about it: it lasts after a fight. In other words, on the fight it's deployed in, we'll heal to full surgelessly, assuming Kirie doesn't go down.

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<p>From: IhatethisCPU | #382
Technically I've a theme, yes. Stopped using it because combat doesn't last long enough for Parte to have much of an effect. >_>' Where's Scholar, and what do you suggest for other feats? Don't have a background, mind.

I have possible names for Supers, just not sure how to make 'em work. >_>'
Examples: Strong-Style Symphony, Deaf To All But The Song (See both as Stances. >_>'), SONG FOR YOU, Song of Myself,The Bard's Song, that sort of thing. (Possible buffs and debuffs.)</p>
Dragon 399.

As for supers, just think of something emblematic that Kirie does or has done in combat and make a power out of that, using whatever tricks you used as a base for the super and cranking them up to 11. It's what I did for Valerian

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<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #379
<p>From: KanzarisKelshen | #377
<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #376
Right, but Forbidden Ground grants the attacks on the same round is what I mean, without further expenditure. Storm-Swept Battlefield mandates that you burn extra actions to get its benefit.

Not at all. Forbidden Ground requires that I keep sliding the enemy into the zone. That means that I'll at least need to be following it up with Mark of Storm shenanigans, so it ALSO requires extra actions to burn.</p>
Remember that other characters can trigger it though...and Lloyd specifically has similar sliding tricks for example. Kirie has a push 2, Vanessa has some repositioning IIRC, and so on.</p>
Well, okay, but someone will have to be spending extra actions beyond the standard to cast just to get a profit out of it.

It's nice that Lloyd and I can maintain a sort of loop, though; I cast and then, say, Lightning Cuts and slide him into the zone, Lloyd takes the immediate reaction attack and slides him out of the zone; on his turn, he attacks and slides him back into the zone, and then I take the immediate reaction attack and slide him back out... And of course that also means lots of triggers of my Electric Field too.</p>
Indeed. It's convenient that way, Forbidden Ground.

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<p>From: IhatethisCPU | #378
I know I managed to come up with Machine Gun Kiss, but I'm completely blankin' on possible Ults/Supers/Ultras/Techs for Kirie. Feh.

I took Infuriating Elusiveness. Either that or Hero's Defense, and I like the idea of possibly being a ninja once per turn, and I've got no plans feats wise besides maybe taking Linguist and Abyssal, Latin and Lagomorph with it.</p>
Lagomorph isn't a language though. It's a high insight check.

Also, you don't have a theme, right? If so you could just take Scholar and skip on both Mark of Scribing and Linguist.

PS: Also, do you REALLY need Infuriating Elusiveness? U16 is a really powerful slot, including such things as the Song of Sublime Snowfall (AKA 'as long as Kirie is alive the party is undefeatable'), Haste (AKA 'bonus turns all day erryday'), Mantle of Unity ('everybody has unhittable defenses because HEROES') or Allied Rhythm (the very first per-encounter attack bonus granter in...well...since we've started playing, really). You could just take Spectral Fade with your U2 and use Ethereal Sidestep instead, if you want invisibility and teleportation.

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<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #376
Right, but Forbidden Ground grants the attacks on the same round is what I mean, without further expenditure. Storm-Swept Battlefield mandates that you burn extra actions to get its benefit.

Not at all. Forbidden Ground requires that I keep sliding the enemy into the zone. That means that I'll at least need to be following it up with Mark of Storm shenanigans, so it ALSO requires extra actions to burn.</p>
Remember that other characters can trigger it though...and Lloyd specifically has similar sliding tricks for example. Kirie has a push 2, Vanessa has some repositioning IIRC, and so on.

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<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #374
That wording does make more sense.

(And Forbidden Ground is also a standard action for startup, so that's not really a good comparison...)</p>
Right, but Forbidden Ground grants the attacks on the same round is what I mean, without further expenditure. Storm-Swept Battlefield mandates that you burn extra actions to get its benefit.

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<p>From: Sceptilesolar | #372
Oh wait, I misread Judgment Slash a bit; the secondary attacks only double the original damage and don't also count as extra attacks in their own right, correct?

Using a standard seems more appropriate to me, and in the long run it's probably worth it (besides, with an AP/Inspired Solutions Death from Two Sides alone I can trigger both options simultaneously even on the startup turn).</p>
Right. They're not attacks of their own. So a single miss absolutely thrashes the attack's damage dealt.

And hmm, it does make sense, but I just fear that it doesn't feel 'super' enough. After all, with two actions you could trigger...say...Forbidden Ground + Shock Spiral and just start granting tons of attacks, or whatever. Though I understand the reasons for making it a standard still.

EDIT: Also, Stormborn Assault is worded a bit weirdly since no secondary attack is happening. Looks a bit cleaner like this...

Stormborn Assault
Like a stroke of lightning, Brona and his allies obliterate an enemy in an instant.
Super - Martial, Lightning
Standard Action - Personal
Effect: You charge an enemy. Additionally, all allies in a close burst 5 may charge that enemy or make a basic attack against it as a free action. If the attack granted by this effect hits, it inflicts extra lightning damage equal to half the damage dealt by the primary attack.

Gotta keep the super hax shiny :P

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