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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 176: You know its the Mack militant
JaKyL25
02/28/12 1:25:00 PM
#6
I was gonna say that this should have been an ROH topic, but at the rate we've been going I'm sure we'll fill this up before Sunday.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/28/12 1:17:00 PM
#494
Mike Bennett vs. Homicide signed for the ROH 10th Anniversary show.

Didn't see that comin'!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/28/12 9:18:00 AM
#478
He'll have to place a wager with Alec to try and win a replacement!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/28/12 8:39:00 AM
#469
The way it was worded on WWE.com led me to believe that it was just for next week, as a trial to see which one has more merit to their case of running both shows.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/28/12 12:06:00 AM
#450
He was the Iron Man in the Rumble and for ONE BRIEF SECOND I thought he was gonna win the Raw Chamber. <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:47:00 PM
#435
All-Purpose Wrist Topic

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:41:00 PM
#432
Oh wait I guess those spoilers ARE for this week's Impact. Even better!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:38:00 PM
#428
Awesome news from the tapings for next week's Impact (not this Thursday)

****IMPACT SPOILERS****

someone outside the usual main event picture gets to mix it up on the same level as main eventers, and he might be the greatest man who ever lived

****END SPOILERS***

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:35:00 PM
#424
Yeah, thus far none of this "reality era" stuff has stepped over the line of kayfabe, even CM Punk's July stuff, with the possible exception of Cena's remarks to Punk about how fans want him to "increase his workrate, expand on the 5MoD, and embrace his heel persona."

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:23:00 PM
#419
LOL JR is on Twitter trying to toe the line saying stuff like "That promo to me felt like it stepped over the line and made me uncomfortable" and saying that yes, Rock and Cena have LEGIT heat, not just storyline.

Good man, JR.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:20:00 PM
#414
I feel like what was actually written on the wrists should be some Easter Egg with like a promo code for a free DVD or something. <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:15:00 PM
#408
Dolph Ziggler @HEELZiggler
#asscape

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:09:00 PM
#400

From: Rad Link 5 | #398
STOP BEING SUCH A KILLJOY, GAWD

If this is a work, they wouldn't have put the writing on The Rock's wrists unless they wanted us to think it wasn't a work!


Hey, whether or not an angle is real has no bearing on how good it is, in fact if it's fake that means it's probably better!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:02:00 PM
#393
Thinking about it again, I love how Cena really unsettled The Rock's promo routine.

After Cena left, Rock was stammering and repeating himself like he was on the most basic of autopilots while his mind scrambled for a true retort.

That was really interesting stuff.

(AND YES I AM TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF KAYFABE, THIS IS ALL A WORK PEOPLE)

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:57:00 PM
#392
So now next time it will be STUMP THE WAR and I will be one of the regular contestants!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:40:00 PM
#375
See, now that Rock's actually here the feud is awesome. Rock's promo pre-Cena was kinda lame, and that crowd that loved him deserved better (What does "Kung Pao B****" even mean!?!), but once Cena came out they were both incredible.

I almost busted a gut when Rock insinuated that Triple H's rise to the top was in any way analogous to his or Austin's or Undertaker's or Foley's though.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 9:38:00 PM
#321

From: TheRock1525 | #320
People think that Rock wasn't expecting Cena to come out and insult him, and that he was legit pissed at the end.


Those people are being worked!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 9:34:00 PM
#317

From: TheRock1525 | #297
once again minority here, but I think Rock being flustered was an act as a way to finally sell that Cena can actually get through to The Rock.


You suspect something on Monday Night Raw was an act? <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 6:01:00 PM
#270
AIM: B8watchesRaw

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 12:49:00 PM
#260

From: Lopen | #257
Also to be fair Kane was pretty weak around that time IIRC.


Remember, that weakness was all a part of Kane's TEN YEAR MASTER PLAN

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 11:12:00 AM
#243
I thought his race reproduced asexually?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:57:00 AM
#233
Is that your suggested team name for them? <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:24:00 AM
#230
I still love that hilariously awkward MitB field.

Rob Van Dam
Ric Flair
Bobby Lashley
Shelton Benjamin
Finlay
Matt Hardy

LOL

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:09:00 AM
#225
In fact, let's poll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WrestleMania_22

I vote for Edge vs. Foley as the best match.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:07:00 AM
#223
Wrestlemania 22 is such an oddball WM.

I bet that it has the most divergence on MotN of all the WMs. Everything's "good," nothing's really "great."

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 10:02:00 AM
#221
Jakyl Fun Fact

Aside from the Wrestlemania IX situation, it's the shortest World Title match in WM history!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 9:53:00 AM
#218

From: Rad Link 5 | #217
Hell, Orton/Mysterio/Angle managed to be better than it had any right to be at the time.


Really? I thought that match under-delivered. Yeah, '06 Orton doesn't bring high expectations, but Angle and Mysterio have put on classics in the past both in singles and especially in tags, and Randy might not be on their level but even then he can hang.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 9:32:00 AM
#215
I dunno, the vast majority of Triple Threats (with an obvious handful of exceptions) are inferior to singles matches involving the same guys.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 9:26:00 AM
#213

From: Dauntless Hunter | #210
I'd say it would be better if the Rumble winner got his shot at Elimination Chamber, 1-on-1. It places more value on the Rumble since instead of getting the first crack at the unified title, they get the easiest shot to make it into the unification match. Granted, it's a little worse really since it requires them to win two matches instead of just one to be unified champ, but the value of being in the unification match at Wrestlemania instead of in a random title match at Extreme Rules, plus the prestige of possibly being the first champion to hold the new unified title instead of the second, makes up for it.


Maybe you could give them the option?

You can either:
A.) Fight the WWE Champion 1-on-1 at Elimination Chamber
B.) Fight the World Heavyweight Champion 1-on-1 at Elimination Chamber
or
C.) Fight the Undisputed Champion at Extreme Rules

Different characters would take different routes I think.

EDIT: And maybe for Option C, in exchange for waiting it out that long, you would also get the choice of what type of match to compete in. That definitely sweetens the deal even more if you have a pet match.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:47:00 AM
#207
Well I think it works better if just for this one year the Rumble winner gets his title shot at Extreme Rules instead of WM. The unification shouldn't be a Triple Threat IMO

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:33:00 AM
#202
With the NASCAR race pushed back to 7PM Eastern, Cena is abandoning his role as grand marshal of the race to be at Raw

(although if it gets delayed AGAIN to start tomorrow then he'll be there)

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:22:00 AM
#200
(If they ever do decide to unify the titles that would be a great way to do it though. It would give them genuine meaning throughout the interim year. I think maybe announcing it after Summerslam might be better though; a year might be too much time.)

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:21:00 AM
#199
That's not announcing a match, that's announcing a concept!

I mean, we kinda know that at Royal Rumble 2013 there will be a Royal Rumble match, and that's not a problem, but announcing all 30 guys today would be silly.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:16:00 AM
#196
Heck, TNA is even struggling with announcing a match 2 months in advance.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:12:00 AM
#194
If nothing else, WWE definitely proved that they should NEVER ANNOUNCE A MATCH A YEAR IN ADVANCE AGAIN

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:05:00 AM
#192
Well in kayfabe he's kinda sorta had more urgent matters to attend to! <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 8:01:00 AM
#190
I guess when it comes down to it, I am extremely interested purely in the idea of The Rock wrestling John Cena 1-on-1 to find out who's better. All the garbage they've done to promote the match has added nothing, and does distract from that ultimate goal, but none of it changes the fact that at the end of it all, I get to see that dream matchup.

Others apparently couldn't care less about seeing them wrestle and need better build and firmer stakes. Two things which would definitely HELP the match, that I cannot deny.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 7:36:00 AM
#183

From: Dauntless Hunter | #181
It's only an incredible event if you care about at least one of them though. Instead it's just a bunch of people I don't care about wasting time.

Although I've never seen Hogan/Rock, but there's another match between two guys I couldn't care less about. I can't imagine why I would possibly care about any of it.


How about Hogan vs. Andre? Ever seen that? Same sort of deal.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 7:33:00 AM
#182

From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #178
And he's just whined about The Rock and failed to do anything interesting in this feud.


I won't dispute any of the rest of your post because those are all valid opinions, but I'm just curious as to what Rock has done in this feud that's interesting. <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/27/12 7:29:00 AM
#179
Even if you believe that they're both terrible wrestlers (although that BOGGLES MY MIND), look at Rock vs. Hogan. Not a great match by any means on a technical level, but such an incredible event. This should be similar, with Rock as Hogan and Cena as Rock.

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JaKyL25
02/27/12 7:23:00 AM
#176
I think another part of it too is the general sense for some (including myself) that the Cena hate is undeserved, so there's some sympathy there for a guy that busts his ass and has a library of great work and does whatever the company needs getting verbally slammed by someone who abandoned the company when they needed him.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:31:00 PM
#159
I love so many guys on the roster that it's hard for them to fill up a PPV card without me wanting to see at least half the matches.

Really the writing/booking is THE major problem with WWE, but talent makes up for a lot of that.

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:25:00 PM
#157
Heck, come to think of it, even Triple H and Undertaker are backhandedly burying everyone else with their feud.

Up and down the card, WWE is saying "Hey buy WM where you can see all the people that really matter make their annual appearance, and then 4 weeks later be sure to buy Extreme Rules featuring none of those guys!"

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:08:00 PM
#155
But I do still like WWE. I critique it but my overall opinion of the product is still a positive one. Just less positive than TNA.

Panthera, I posed that question before, about whether WWE might be INTENTIONALLY withholding Rock from doing more appearances/promos just to give Cena more ammo. SMuffin called me crazy. <_<

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:01:00 PM
#152
And if anyone IS actually hating on the fact that this match is happening then I think they need to stop and simplify their thoughts. It's a dream match of the highest caliber!

It's just sad that until Cena's promo this last Monday they've basically given us no genuine push to REALLY get hyped about this match since the day after WM 27, to the point where we've spent months arguing over the semantics of things to explain our frustrations.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:54:00 PM
#151
Well I don't think ANYONE is saying that they don't want to see Cena vs. The Rock itself.

We're doing 2 things:

A.) Hating on the angle for really doing the worst possible job they could be doing about making us care (thus far)
and
B.) Explaining why we'll be rooting for Cena during the match itself, just like how we'll be rooting for Punk against Jericho.

I want to see the match a lot! I love watching Rock wrestle! By no means am I hating on the idea that this match is going to happen.

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:51:00 PM
#149
(And also Jericho is meant to be in the wrong and full of himself and a major ass)

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:50:00 PM
#148

From: TheRock1525 | #147
Jericho is doing the exact same thing. The first real promo he did when he came back was s***ing all over the current roster and inserting himself into the ME of Wrestlemania, JUST like The Rock is doing.

Where's all the Jericho rage?


I dunno if you missed it but a lot of people are pissed off that this whole Jericho return angle is really kinda crappy.

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:47:00 PM
#146
And I think deep down that's why the "never leaving again" remark, misconstrued or not, is such a sticking point.

That magical night where Rock returned and cut that amazing promo, after laying the smacketh down about how much things suck now, it came across like he was saying that now HE'S back to set things right. And then he never did. So basically he just called us all fools for watching a (supposedly) inferior product.

And yeah, I wish he would still come back and wrestle more often, but even if he can't, like I said earlier, I would even settle for some more frequent via satellite promos, just to say something or comment about ways the product can be better if he feels that strongly about it.

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:37:00 PM
#141
Part of it goes back to that initial promo, where Rock basically crapped all over the idea of WWE falling to such low depths that John Cena is the face of the company, without offering any alternative.

At least Punk said "I am willing to take on this mantle to prove that Cena's reign at the top is an albatross and someone else [namely me] will be a much more exciting Champion."

Rock just came on and said "Hey WWE Universe, you know this stuff you watch every week? It SUCKS MONKEY BALLS compared to my era. OK bye."

The natural follow up to Rock's diss, if he's not going to topple Cena HIMSELF to restore his company to the glory of old, is to at least back some sort of Rock proxy.

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