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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:32:00 PM
#138
In fact, now that I think about it, it might have been interesting to take the angle of "Big Show eggs on DB to cash in MitB just to get the case out of the way before he gets his title shot."

Not even "Show just wants to fight an easier Champion," just "Show is confident he can beat Henry OR Bryan and just wants to clear out that potential issue"

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:28:00 PM
#137
Right, I'm just saying there was a full PPV cycle there where they were both presented as just having different POVs on the subject, which gives it a little more substance.

Then Punk chose to make it personal with the drug stuff

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:24:00 PM
#135

From: SmartMuffin | #132
It's pretty much the exact same thing as Show/DB isn't it?


Pretty much except for with Punk/Jeff they at least TRIED to portray both sides as having legitimate gripes.

With Show/DB they did that for like one show and then immediately kinda dropped the "DB was only exercising his right" angle in favor of "DB's just a jerk"

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:21:00 PM
#133
Oddly enough, Cena (when Edge cashed in on him) has a legitimate beef though.

He won his WWE Championship on SmackDown, and that particular MitB was only good on a Raw World Title. Cena then got drafted to Raw and then months later dethroned by the cash-in.

IMO he has a reasonable case of "I did not choose to seek a Championship reign under these pretenses"

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:18:00 PM
#131
But I don't think he has that right since if you choose to wrestle for a World Title with an active MitB case out there, and you get toppled by it, that's your own damn negligence.

Jeff even CHOSE the ladder match stipulation that ended up weakening him in victory to the point of cash-in.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:15:00 PM
#129

From: SmartMuffin | #127
I honestly can't recall the last wrestling feud that was presented as face-face (or at least, presented as "both sides have a legitimate argument") where *I* felt one person was so completely and obviously in the right.


Got one: the initial stages of CM Punk vs. Jeff Hardy

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:12:00 PM
#128

From: SmartMuffin | #127
I don't remember anyone here complaining about Cena not delivering an AA at WM. But plenty of people here, including me, are upset at Rock now.


Right, but Meltzer was referring to WRESTLERS being upset that Rock got the upper hand when Cena was gonna be the one carrying the touring.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:09:00 PM
#126

From: SmartMuffin | #123
I feel like that's a straw man. I mean, I don't remember anyone here complaining that Cena didn't AA the Rock at WM...


Well if you're gonna call BS on his claim that people were upset about it, then you may as well call BS on his claim that people are upset at Rock now. I mean it's all hearsay.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 9:07:00 PM
#125

From: Rad Link 5 | #115
Meltzer blamed it on The Miz, MMA, and booking.


The UFC PPV that weekend was Dan Henderson vs. Shogun Rua. Not exactly a world beater from a buyrate standpoint.

Now don't get me wrong, it was the fight of the year, and that show kicked all sorts of ass, but it's not exactly something I would run in fear from if I was WWE.

It only barely outdrew Survivor Series too, 290K buys vs. 281K.

If bottom-tier UFC PPVs (from a marketing standpoint) still pose a significant leeching threat to THE FIRST ROCK MATCH IN 7 YEARS, then that doesn't speak very highly for Rock.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 8:53:00 PM
#121
Well he's right at least that Cena shouldn't have AA'd Rock if the goal was always Cena vs. Rock.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:57:00 PM
#83
LOL at least we made the same chat

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:57:00 PM
#82
AIM: StumptheWar

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:30:00 PM
#78

From: Dr_Football | #076
Round 3- One of the four categories is IN YOUR HOUSE


Wrong.

The categories are
IN
YOUR
HOUSE
IYH

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:28:00 PM
#73

From: XIII_rocks | #069
wwe only :(


I already made a WCW category for the first round. Whoops!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:27:00 PM
#72

From: Dr_Football | #070
theres going to be like 5 IN YOUR HOUSE categories/questions


That was Jeopardy format, this is Stump the Schwab!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:24:00 PM
#68
Are we going WWE-only or am I free to mix in other feds?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:17:00 PM
#61
Okay, if War wants to play Schwab, I can have a game ready by the top of the hour if we can snag three players.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:16:00 PM
#59

From: edwardsdv | #055
I will be running an edition of STUMP THE JAKYL, provided somebody (like Dr. Football for instance) can give me the skeleton format of how its supposed to go, TOMORROW AFTER RAW !?!?!


You've never seen Stump the Schwab!? <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:14:00 PM
#54
Or heck, I would host a trivia game in the same style myself, if someone else wanted to take the Schwab role.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:13:00 PM
#52
And yeah if anyone ever wants to go through the trouble of hosting, I am willing to play Stump the Jakyl any time.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:06:00 PM
#45

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #040
Please like any star would show up in NWA: Mountain State.


Hey, if MY local indy can snag an early boot from Rock of Love Bus Season Three to be the interviewer, surely NWA Mountain State can get some sort of Big Brother reject.

They're the number one wrestling federation in West Virginia!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:03:00 PM
#39

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #037
I am willing to make your site terrible! I will be your Bill Simmons!


At least when you continually reference reality shows, sometimes an actual ex-reality star will be present!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 12:00:00 PM
#36
I definitely want a podcast version of Stump the Jakyl too

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:56:00 AM
#33

From: edwardsdv | #028
Sign me up. I can write terrible editorials and such. Or maybe something else. Really I'll do just about anything.


Mystery Steiner Theater 2000, where we subject eddv to random episodes of WCW Thunder

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:53:00 AM
#32

From: FFDragon | #031
I've worked several shows as security and as long as you aren't right up on the guardrail you pretty much get paid to watch the show.


Those are the only security guys I thought of when I said that so good to know!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:46:00 AM
#25
Speaking of doing more for the industry, unless TimJab objects, The Thesz Press will be going live at some nebulous point in 2012, everyone's favorite launch date.

We will need content writers!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:43:00 AM
#24

From: XIII_rocks | #022
Oh right so are you talking about, say, "being a wrestling writer" and "being a hollywood scriptwriter"?


Well those would be my dreams in either industry but like I said, I'm willing to take anything in wrestling if they wanted to pay me lower-middle-class salary. Announcer, timekeeper, referee, ring crew, whatever.

Just not security because then I have to have my back to the action!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:37:00 AM
#19

From: voltch | #015
the WWE is the CZW of the movie industry and the XFL is the.....what's worse than IWA:MS?


Juggalo Championshi* Wrestling?

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:34:00 AM
#12

From: XIII_rocks | #008
I'm not doubting your love of wrestling at all, Jakyl, don't get me wrong. I'm just denying you have the look or talent to be a Hollywood actor. And if you did, your perception of things might be skewed a little.


That's why in both cases I said "in some capacity." I wasn't implying that I would be an actor or a wrestler. I actually have no desire to be either. I'm probably one of the few wrestling fans who has NEVER at any point in his life had an inkling of desire to be a wrestler.

But if I actually thought I had a chance to get my foot in the door of the industry by going that route, then sign me up for training.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 175: The Scummiest Business.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:30:00 AM
#5
I have literally turned down a date to watch a PPV

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:27:00 AM
#497

From: XIII_rocks | #492
As I said, it's very easy to say "I'll never leave wrestling because I love it" when you don't have the star quality or the skillset to do better, and that's what Foley is for example.


I can say definitively right now that if I was offered a choice between $40K a year to be involved in the wrestling industry at some level versus $20 Million Dollars to be involved in Hollywood at some level, I wouldn't even have to think twice before shaking Vince or Dixie's hand.

And even if it's a complete and utter work (and it PROBABLY is), Cena has convinced (or tricked) me into believing that he is the same.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:24:00 AM
#493
To be honest, Angle shouldn't have done that match. <_<

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:23:00 AM
#490
Working hurt is one thing, working injured is something else entirely, and yeah I agree that Henry shouldn't have been working if he was injured.

But you cannot deny that the industry in 2012 is much safer than it was in 2002.

(Unless Big Show is in the ring)

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:19:00 AM
#486

From: XIII_rocks | #484
Guy LOVES wrestling but he's never had an opportunity to do otherwise.


He had a guest appearance on 30 Rock this season! <___<

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:17:00 AM
#483

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #477
Given that this industry killed Eddie Guerrero and pretty much didn't care and then proceeded to kill Chris Benoit and continues to destroy people while still not caring, would you want to be associated with it?


And the industry has learned from them and evolved to be safer and stricter about the damage done to its performers.

I still proudly call myself a professional wrestling fan whenever someone asks what my hobbies are.

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JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:15:00 AM
#479
Yeah, the one comeback promo was made more special by the 7 years away, sure. But it wasn't SO GOOD that it was worth 7 years of no Rock! It didn't even end up as the best promo of 2011 (Hey there Colt Cabana, how you doin'?).

And I do watch Angle in TNA every week, and he's still great!

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:09:00 AM
#473
And that's what I love about Jericho. He has other dreams. He has other ambitions in life. He doesn't NEED wrestling anymore, but he still comes back, because he loves it.

Rock can do all the movies he wants, and I don't begrudge him taking the opportunity to set himself and his family up for life, it's just the complete and utter 7-year cold shoulder towards the entire industry that bothers me. I was willing to give him a second chance to regain my fandom after his return last year, but in the interim he's lost it again.

Heck, I would have settled for a Via Satellite promo every 4 weeks or so but we can't even get that.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 11:01:00 AM
#468
I just feel like, if money wasn't an issue and everything was equal and you got to choose what to do with your life based on what you most loved, Rock wouldn't have ever been involved with the wrestling industry, and Cena would.

I've always called Brock Lesnar the best wrestler of all time who never really wanted to be a pro wrestler, but I'm starting to think that the answer might actually be Rock.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:53:00 AM
#462

From: TheRock1525 | #461
There's just no incentive for The Rock to come back on a regular basis.

He can make a lot more money in a lot safer environment with a much better work schedule staying in movies.


And it's the fact that he needs "incentive" that saddens me.

It's his life, so whatever, but it's depressing to me that he doesn't LOVE to be around wrestling as much in his heart as much as, say, Foley.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:50:00 AM
#460
I'm not saying he has to NEVER make a movie!

If he was on a late-'00s Undertaker schedule where he pops up from Summerslam -- Wrestlemania and then takes the summer off that would be fine.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:48:00 AM
#458

From: voltch | #456
I wouldn't want to come back if I was The Rock.


Pro wrestling >>>>>> any movie ever made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any movie Rock has ever made

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:45:00 AM
#455
I don't hate the Rock, he just frustrates me because I miss him and he won't come back.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/26/12 10:41:00 AM
#453
WM 27 did 1,059,000 buys.

Does WM 28 break 1,250,000?

If you believe that "limited PPV dollars" affects buys, it should be noted that last night's UFC PPV was the last one until a few weeks past WM. They're on a pretty rare 8-week PPV gap thanks to a planned late March event falling through due to arena conflicts.

That definitely breaks in WWE's favor, because WM26's buyrate was, in the opinion of many, crippled by being on the same weekend as a UFC PPV featuring their 2nd biggest draw.

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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 174: Fire Russo.
JaKyL25
02/25/12 10:08:00 PM
#424

From: SmartMuffin | #420
Cena has drawn more THIS YEAR than The Rock, solely by virtue of being on ten times as many shows.


10 x 0 = ?

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JaKyL25
02/25/12 9:44:00 PM
#419

From: TheRock1525 | #401
Has Evan Bourne been officially released yet? Cause if not then he's a given.


They can't legally release him during the suspension unless he refuses to go to rehab (if they've asked him to), like Carlito did.

When he comes back they still can't REALLY release him for drug use until he fails a 3rd test, again as long as he's complying with any requests they make to seek help. They can make up some BS other reason though I guess. But the whole point of a 3-strike system is that you're not actually FIRED until strike 3.

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TopicAlright I think I'm ready. Let's talk about Resident Evil.
JaKyL25
02/25/12 1:08:00 PM
#55
There is no "canon" scenario actually available in RE1/REmake, right?

In canon, aren't Chris, Jill, Barry, and Rebecca all on the chopper?

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JaKyL25
02/25/12 12:30:00 PM
#391
Jakyl Fun Fact

Cody Rhodes is climbing that IC reign ladder!

He has now surpassed Razor Ramon's 1st reign and will surpass Shawn Michael's 1st reign on Tuesday.

He currently has the 17th-longest reign of all-time! Hold on through this week's shows Cody and inch ever closer to the Honky Tonk Man!

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JaKyL25
02/25/12 11:30:00 AM
#388
You won't be able to see anything that happens on the Titantron!

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JaKyL25
02/25/12 7:02:00 AM
#384
*****FCW SPOILERS*****


Kassius Ohno won his debut match at the tapings this week (although the episodes won't air until mid-March), and Seth Rollins won the FCW Championship from Leo Kruger.

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JaKyL25
02/25/12 6:32:00 AM
#383

From: SmartMuffin | #381
okay then, shouldn't Storm be a little irritated that he has to wait an extra month for his title shot just so Sting can gratify his ego?


I guess just like how Rumble winners are satisfied to wait until WM, Storm is satisfied to wait until Lockdown.

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