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ColZach posted...

What about a doomsday scenario where the skinny people die first

Decreased gravity.
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I think 3 is the only one that has a chance at having more than 1 correct. Mayyyyybe 4.
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Snake
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Duck Hunt

Meh
Lucario
Mario

Doesn't Feel Good
Mega Man
Marth
Villager

Nah
Olimar
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

a bump indeed
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lawful also is not limited to laws
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

<3
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Good luck!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

KatieKlaws posted...

bowser

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Isabelle is so much fun
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This is my ranking so far.

Isabelle is next.

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Inkling
Snake
Pichu
Kirby

Really Like
Pac-Man
Dr. Mario
DK

Like
Lucas
Sheik
Wii Fit Trainer
Duck Hunt

Meh
Mario

Doesn't Feel Good
Mega Man
Marth
Villager

Nah
Olimar
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

handsomeboy2012 posted...

Bowser

Ike is worst FE on the cast except Roy
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tennisboy213 posted...

Ivysaur

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Tom Bombadil posted...

Ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tennisboy213 posted...

Ivysaur.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tennisboy213 posted...

Ivysaur

Why does anybody even save Joker
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ivysaur
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Zigzagoon posted...

Ivysaur

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TheCodeisBosco posted...

ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HanOfTheNekos posted...

tennisboy213 posted...

Ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tennisboy213 posted...

Ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ivysaur
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ivysaur

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ivysaur
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Oh well damn. Lost my main.

ivysaur

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@Zigzagoon

You killed my pichu
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh well damn. Lost my main.

ivysaur
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

pichu

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pichu
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bot who saves zigzagoon
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charmander6000 posted...

Sorry Han, it's been a long day, can you please rephrase that post... why am I sad person? Do you think most people actively do good deeds to be classified as good?

Based on what you said, I would estimate at least +0.5. I am saying you are sad because you are pessimistic about people.

MariaTaylor posted...

they seem perfectly fine benefiting from an evil system as long as it makes them feel safe. if you think those people are good you are nuts.

Survival is the no. 1 priority for almost every human. If operating within an 'evil' system is necessary for survival, then that does not necessarily have a big effect on alignment. Capability to make a difference TO the system as well has to be kept in mind.

MariaTaylor posted...

most people are just not that good.

This is a disagreement we have that will lead to not a lot more coming out of this conversation, I feel.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ivysaur is my current second

I've lost Snake, Inkling, and now I'm gonna lose ivy

thems the breaks
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pichu
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MariaTaylor posted...

doing a few good things doesn't automatically make you a good person. a neutral person can do good things. an evil person can do good things.

to qualify for good alignment you have to have the opposition to evil as one of your defining traits. something most people don't recognize or have the conviction for.

I don't like the opposition talking point, but sure.

Are you opposed to racial injustice? Do you think the Holocaust was bad? Do you think people in poverty deserve to be able to eat?

These are all bad things. I'd take it most of the people who recognize them as bad are against them as well.

charmander6000 posted...

Wanting to do good without actually doing it is relatively meaningless, at best it's a slight positive. You don't need to do big things, even small things are important, but you need to do it. Same thing with people with evil thoughts that don't act upon them.

Then you are a sad person because that sounds way less limiting and sounds like how I would classify most people.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

charmander6000 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If that's your argument, then feel free not to respond anymore. Nothing you have said has been worthwhile anyway.

I mean you think the majority (or at least plurality) of people are actively doing enough (non-selfish) good to warrant being classified as good, I just don't see that...

Where do you draw the line? How many days do you have to volunteer at the soup kitchen per year? How many kittens must I rescue from trees before I get my Good card?

How much do acts matter more than intention and beliefs? I agree that acts are important, but how must MORE important are they?
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pichu
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

pichu

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pichu
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I teach band
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Gatarix posted...

If we define evil as "primarily looking out for one's own interests"

We dont do this. That means everyone is evil. Self-interest is a shared trait among most people.

charmander6000 posted...

While I still believe you are diluting good a bit, a lot more people fit in the later group so at this point my argument would be that you don't have a proper view of the world.

If that's your argument, then feel free not to respond anymore. Nothing you have said has been worthwhile anyway.

MariaTaylor posted...

also your alignment is as much about your potential as what you've actually done. I'd actually say I'm somewhere between chaotic neutral and chaotic evil. I've actually done plenty of evil things before, and there's many others I'd do if the conditions were appropriate.

I can accept that you lean towards chaotic. And if you're right about considering yourself more evil, that explains your perspective on Thanos.
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pichu
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

It's not diluting good though.

Most people fit within their place in society, obeying its rules and social mores. Hence why I say most people are lawful. If you still fit within society but dislike how things are, wish it could change, operate a bit outside of it, then that veers you neutral instead of lawful.

The distinguishing of good neutral to me is how much you care for others. Good people want the world to be a better place - tip more, vote in ways they think help society, assist others in community groups, etc... even if you dont have a lot of impact, wanting better for other people (and not doing things to make things worse for others) makes you good, to me.

Neutral I see as apathy. A lawful neutral person fits into their spot in society, but cares considerably more about themselves than others (good people prioritize themselves too, but put more effort into others). While a neutral person may tip, vote, etc do things to make society a better place, if it's from the realm of wanting life to be better for themselves and not really caring about others so much, then that trends neutral.

Given these definitions, I still see a lot more people as lawful good than lawful neutral. But that may be my optimism speaking.

Chaotic good are like... hippies. Chaotic evil are serial killers. True neutral are hikikomori - people so apathetic and removed from everything.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

pichu

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Bot update plz
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MariaTaylor posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Lawful good most common

you believe that because you are lawful neutral, and you desperately want to think of yourself as good

Nah, I'm just more optimistic.

But similarly, I'd say you're actually neutral and not chaotic, given how you still subscribe to society and operate within it, despite your objections to how things are.

I think a lot of the gripes with lawful good come from the old style paladin interpretation of the alignment. I think it's a bad interpretation.

I would say that chaotic evil is easily the least common, followed by true neutral.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

MariaTaylor posted...

lawful neutral for sure

lawful good lmao hell no

Lawful good most common, unless you're against thinking most people are naturally good. Lawful neutral next. Neutral good next.

I'd say people can trend chaotic good, but given the nature of the world, it's very hard to survive as chaotic.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Movie Thano is almost the epitome of True Neutral.

He literally wants to remove half of living things to bring balance between creatures and resources.

The murder is completely arbitrary.

You can't divorce actions from intent this much.

But also, balance is inherently lawful, etc
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Well, alignment was mechanically written out if 5e, so writers have similar thoughts to you, Para.

And Maria, your dilemmas are why I define lawful/chaotic along the lines that I stated earlier. A good character should seek to do good. Lawful/chaotic can be preferences, but they should not trump good... or else the character isn't good.

Also, it's interesting - in my opinion, I would consider the vast majority of humans on earth to be lawful good or lawful neutral.
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pichu
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