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IllegalAlien
05/23/17 11:47:45 AM
#51:


glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it

He "did" the job indeed. That isn't the same thing as "working" at the job. He went into the job as "actor" and left as "actor" and during the entire process was "actor". Not once was he "shit cleaner" or "janitor". That's a very distinct difference.

Anyways, you're literally sitting at your computer shit posting so are we all. That doesn't mean anything.
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BettyWhite
05/23/17 11:48:12 AM
#52:


glitteringfairy posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
I like Mike Rowe, but this whole "working man" image he puts up is bull shit. He's a communications graduate that hasn't worked an actual "dirty job" in his life.

He did that show for years and he got in there and did every job. Just because he wasn't employed full time at whichever company doesn't mean he didn't work the job. Y'all acting like he just stood there instead of getting up in there. Yea it was a tv show but he still did the jobs. Guy has done pretty much every dirty job in the world if only for a day each and I say certainly say that makes him eligible to speak on such matters


There's a huge difference between cleaning shit for 10 dollars an hour everyday and doing it once for a salary that likely treads in the millions.
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Annihilated
05/23/17 11:48:20 AM
#53:


Balrog0 posted...
showing up early, staying late, and doing shit work all sound like tips for chumps imho


Yeah all those CEOs and business owners are fucking losers. Can't even get a job at Subway like everyone else.
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Veggeta_EDGE
05/23/17 11:48:44 AM
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Ivynn posted...
Veggeta_EDGE posted...
Request lock of this topic for people trying to make a political point ITT.


Mocking millennials has been a political point for a while now. You should have seen it coming.

Which is hilarious because both sides fall under the category. It's like when Repubs calling Demos snowflakes when Repubs are, if not worst, than Demos.
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Balrog0
05/23/17 11:49:06 AM
#55:


Annihilated posted...
Yeah all those CEOs and business owners are fucking losers. Can't even get a job at Subway like everyone else.


are you really trying to imply that ceos and business owners got to where they are by showing up early, staying late, and volunteering for all the shitty tasks they could?
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HypnoCoosh
05/23/17 11:50:10 AM
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https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_rowe_celebrates_dirty_jobs
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 11:50:13 AM
#57:


The Admiral posted...
Waiting for liberals to turn on Mike Rowe and minimize his perfectly useful and legitimate comments to "bootstraps."


Some of it is pretty useful tbh, but he is basically just saying "bootstraps" over and over. He is also telling you to be complacent with a crappy job, but do it with a smile.

The bootstraps mentality isn't wrong it's just grossly overused. We all have to bury our heads and just power through it sometimes. There needs to be a better balance of understanding your circumstances/limitations and working hard.

Basically work harder not smarter. Don't overly romanticize working crappy jobs.

Oh but of course you only came ITT to froth at the mouth while discussing liberals.
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Annihilated
05/23/17 11:50:18 AM
#58:


Balrog0 posted...
Annihilated posted...
Yeah all those CEOs and business owners are fucking losers. Can't even get a job at Subway like everyone else.


are you really trying to imply that ceos and business owners got to where they are by showing up early, staying late, and volunteering for all the shitty tasks they could?


I'm not implying it, I'm outright stating it. It's a fact. You can't launch a successful business without pulling 250% of your own weight.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
05/23/17 11:51:27 AM
#59:


Jagr_68 posted...
He forgot to list the one where we should blatantly stop blaming Mexicans for taking "dirty" jobs that everyone "wants".


Beautiful post.
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UnfairRepresent
05/23/17 11:51:54 AM
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Yeah number 10 is a little iffy.

While I agree that you are responsible for your actions and that blaming others for your failures is a terrible practice, denying that you are a product of your circumstances is just ludicrious.

He flat out says it himself in point 1 about winning the lottery by living in America.

You think that a guy born to a rich family in Connecticut has no difference based on circumstances than a broke girl on the streets of Saudi Arabia?

Get out of here.
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glitteringfairy
05/23/17 11:52:34 AM
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I understand what y'all are saying and I agree for the most part. My point is a little experience is better than no experience.
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prince_leo
05/23/17 11:53:02 AM
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Number 10: I believe that I am a product of my choices - not my circumstances.
Number 1: I believe that I have won the greatest lottery of all time. I am alive. I walk the Earth. I live in America.


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I4NRulez
05/23/17 11:53:23 AM
#64:


krazychao5 posted...

That is not how I interpreted it. And most people do not have bad jobs -- they have bad bosses.

And if you want to stay at the same position in a company, just show up and do your work. Do it well, and they'll definitely want to keep you there. To advance in a company, you need to be a thought leader.


A LOT of people have bad jobs. I've worked for terrible bosses before but i know the difference from bad work and a bad boss.

Being a "thought leader" can only get you so far. Theres two things that i've learned that get you far. Who you know and how much money you can save/make a company
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krazychao5
05/23/17 11:55:05 AM
#65:


I'd suggest everyone who is all "omgawd you gonna work a shitty job you have a shitty life" or whatever attitude to look up autotelic workers and understand what that means.

It is your responsibility to create a mindset of enjoying work and your thoughts. You can use your consciousness to create a better experience for yourself at work. If you have the mental aptitude, that is.
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thompsontalker7
05/23/17 11:55:10 AM
#66:


ITT: a load of whoosh
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 11:55:43 AM
#67:


Antifar posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Yea it was a tv show but he still did the jobs.

A job is more than the tasks you do during your shift: it is also the money you get paid for doing that and the knowledge that you have to go back the next day.


It's also the long term wear and tear on your body and the reality that safety standards are less enforced when cameras aren't rolling.
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Smashingpmkns
05/23/17 11:57:15 AM
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Working a job for less than 24 hours (fun fact: film days aren't 8 hours straight for Dirty Jobs, more like 4 or less lol) is no where near the same thing as working the job for your whole life. Guy gets paid millions of dollars to do things that middle to lower class America has to do for change. He's literally just an actor that uses the first couple pages of an employee handbook as his script.

I still like the guy, less and less as time goes on, but he's definitely not qualified to speak on behalf of the working man.
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eston
05/23/17 11:57:18 AM
#69:


Just a reminder, Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie also had a TV show where they go around and do peoples' jobs, and I don't see anyone acting like they are blue collar heroes
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UnfairRepresent
05/23/17 11:57:51 AM
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I also have to agree that there are indeed bad jobs.

Just going "Oh suck it up and be happy!" only goes so far.

I don't think it's "entilement" to acklowedge that some jobs just fucking suck and some don't.

It's entitlement to assume you deserve a great job, not to realize that jobs can suck.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/23/17 11:57:59 AM
#71:


TheOnionKnight posted...
GOOMFalse posted...
Savage isn't a verb

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/savage#Verb

@GOOMFalse just got the shit savaged out of him fam
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Veggeta_EDGE
05/23/17 11:58:12 AM
#72:


I have this lady I work with which I think of her as bipolar because she is moody as fuck. She can be your best friend one hour and the next hour she is literally the devil. People like her makes the work environment hostile and unpleasant and there's not much you can do about it but work through it and tolerate it.
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tremain07
05/23/17 11:58:59 AM
#73:


eston posted...
Just a reminder, Paris Hilton and Nicole Ritchie also had a TV show where they go around and do peoples' jobs, and I don't see anyone acting like they are blue collar heroes

Because they didn't go around pretending they understood the working class
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 11:59:01 AM
#74:


glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


You realize some of us have actually been employed in said job fields right?
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Paragon21XX
05/23/17 12:00:48 PM
#75:


GOOMFalse posted...
Savage isn't a verb

Read a dictionary lately?
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cjsdowg
05/23/17 12:04:04 PM
#76:


glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


It doesn't mean shit. I worked for Habit for humanity a few times. So does that mean I can speak on the issues that Day laborers face.
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HypnoCoosh
05/23/17 12:04:18 PM
#77:


Liberals literally hating on the guy because he's successful

As always "He didn't do that"

Fucking obama indoctrinated these liberals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQu2SVFF-cU

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YonicBoom
05/23/17 12:05:41 PM
#78:


I4NRulez posted...
Being a "thought leader" can only get you so far. Theres two things that i've learned that get you far. Who you know and how much money you can save/make a company


This is a big part of why I left my old (admittedly good) job. I was looking for opportunities to move up to higher positions and there was a winter program that was designed to prepare you for the sort of jobs I was after. Entry was limited to a few, and like half the people who got selected over me were OBJECTIVELY bad at their jobs and some had even been fired/rehired for drug use and other things that make them precarious if chosen for positions of higher responsibility.

I wasn't selected despite being generally liked, being very good at my job, but not letting other people/departments walk all over me/not taking anyone's shit either.

The sacrifices I made to stay at that job (basically not living in the "real" world, not being able to go to school to improve my job prospects, etc) were not worth it if I wasn't going to be able to rise up to a much higher level.
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UnfairRepresent
05/23/17 12:07:19 PM
#79:


To be fair to Obama he's not wrong.

A lot of the success in America comes from centuries of infastructure that came from tax-payers and others hard-work.

It's not negating your work, it's pointing out you stood on the shoulders of giants for your work. And he's not wrong. What do you think the American dream even is?

No CEO or millionaire in America today to go to a lawless patch of barren land and build an empire.

People trying to spin that as "He claimed you didn't earn your money!" is just dumb intentional intellectual dishonesty.
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GOOMFalse
05/23/17 12:08:44 PM
#80:


Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
TheOnionKnight posted...
GOOMFalse posted...
Savage isn't a verb

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/savage#Verb

@GOOMFalse just got the shit savaged out of him fam

I've been savaged
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tripZ504
05/23/17 12:08:59 PM
#81:


TommyG663513 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


You realize some of us have actually been employed in said job fields right?


He lasted longer than most. I wasnt offended when he did mine. All respect for him doing it the old way.
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tremain07
05/23/17 12:09:14 PM
#82:


I remember some idiots literally made a song called "We built that" to spite Obama back then.
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glitteringfairy
05/23/17 12:09:19 PM
#83:


cjsdowg posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


It doesn't mean shit. I worked for Habit for humanity a few times. So does that mean I can speak on the issues that Day laborers face.

It certainly gives you an insight into their issues better than someone who has never done it
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 12:09:30 PM
#84:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Liberals literally hating on the guy because he's successful

As always "He didn't do that"

Fucking obama indoctrinated these liberals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQu2SVFF-cU


You realize no one takes you seriously right? People are well aware how popular conservatrolling is.
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Balrog0
05/23/17 12:10:06 PM
#85:


Annihilated posted...
I'm not implying it, I'm outright stating it. It's a fact. You can't launch a successful business without pulling 250% of your own weight.


well, you're not wrong about that, but most people who own businesses and or/CEOs of businesses didn't create that business... business creation rates by native US citizens is incredibly low and has been for at least a decade (I think longer but Im not 100% on that)
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HypnoCoosh
05/23/17 12:13:02 PM
#86:


TommyG663513 posted...
conservatrolling


It's only conservatrolling because "liberalfaqs"

If you have an opinion not of the hive-mind your automatically on the black list.
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 12:14:31 PM
#87:


tripZ504 posted...
TommyG663513 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


You realize some of us have actually been employed in said job fields right?


He lasted longer than most. I wasnt offended when he did mine. All respect for him doing it the old way.


Wtf are you even saying? If by "lasting longer than most" you are referring to Mike Rowe then WTF indeed. I would think most can perform a job longer than a day.
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Solid Snake07
05/23/17 12:15:55 PM
#88:


why are we pretending there aren't hordes of lazy ass people in their 40s and 50s?
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Veggeta_EDGE
05/23/17 12:16:41 PM
#90:


Solid Snake07 posted...
why are we pretending there aren't hordes of lazy ass people in their 40s and 50s?

Oh there's tons of lazy people in this world.
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HypnoCoosh
05/23/17 12:19:08 PM
#91:


Solid Snake07 posted...
why are we pretending there aren't hordes of lazy ass people in their 40s and 50s?


Millennials area a whole generation though.
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TommyG663513
05/23/17 12:19:10 PM
#92:


glitteringfairy posted...
cjsdowg posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
I'm saying that he did the job, if only for a day. That gives him more credibility in the subject as opposed to you sitting at your computer saying his experience doesn't mean shit cause he didn't devote his life to it


It doesn't mean shit. I worked for Habit for humanity a few times. So does that mean I can speak on the issues that Day laborers face.

It certainly gives you an insight into their issues better than someone who has never done it


I mean yeah, but your level of understanding of said job will still be dramatically less than people who have done it for years.

Don't confuse having greater than zero insight from working a job for a few days to the level of insight you'd have from real long term employment in said field.
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Annihilated
05/23/17 12:22:28 PM
#93:


Balrog0 posted...
Annihilated posted...
I'm not implying it, I'm outright stating it. It's a fact. You can't launch a successful business without pulling 250% of your own weight.


well, you're not wrong about that, but most people who own businesses and or/CEOs of businesses didn't create that business... business creation rates by native US citizens is incredibly low and has been for at least a decade (I think longer but Im not 100% on that)


You ARE wrong about that. The vast majority of CURRENT business owners as of 2012 are entrepreneurs who founded or started their own business as opposed to purchasing, inheriting, or being appointed by a board of directors.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=SBO_2012_00CSCBO01&prodType=table
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Solid Snake07
05/23/17 12:26:37 PM
#94:


HypnoCoosh posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
why are we pretending there aren't hordes of lazy ass people in their 40s and 50s?


Millennials area a whole generation though.



I know plenty of millennials who are hard working and ambitious. Yeah, I know plenty of do nothing losers too, but I just don't think that's anything new. This just the equivalent of the old man yelling at the kids from his front porch.
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Balrog0
05/23/17 12:26:59 PM
#95:


Annihilated posted...
You ARE wrong about that. The vast majority of CURRENT business owners as of 2012 are entrepreneurs who founded or started their own business as opposed to inheriting it or being appointed by a board of directors.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=SBO_2012_00CSCBO01&prodType=table


yeah, okay, this is true

but most of these are small firms without any real income and most of them will fail

to put it another way, I'm not impressed with someone who makes 10k gross from his yard care service and don't consider him successful just because he owns his business

for that matter, I could incorporate and have about that much business income if I wanted to

and I wouldn't do it by showing up early, staying late, or volunteering for shit jobs!
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LRodC
05/23/17 12:29:02 PM
#96:


That_Happened posted...
When you look up "smug" in the dictionary, there's a picture of the face Mike Rowe is making in that photo.

I usually see Hillary supporters in October to early November.
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ChouBF
05/23/17 12:32:30 PM
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5. I deplore debt, and do all I can to avoid it. I would rather live in a tent and eat beans than borrow money to pay for a lifestyle I can't afford.

Hmm
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/actors/mike-rowe-net-worth/
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The Admiral
05/23/17 12:35:14 PM
#98:


Amazing that preaching the values of hard work, personal responsibility, and a good attitude are one of the quickest ways to trigger this board.

Even if you disagree with Mike Rowe's philosophy, your life would certainly be better off if you adopted most of these principles.
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charey
05/23/17 12:35:15 PM
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The one really out of touch rule is no debt. If your rich like a CEO or Actor that means never owning a house or car. Very few people can afford one in cash and in a lot of places not having a car means not being able to get a job.

By all means Mike, tell us how to get a car without going into debt while working an entry level job.
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Annihilated
05/23/17 12:35:36 PM
#100:


Balrog0 posted...
Annihilated posted...
You ARE wrong about that. The vast majority of CURRENT business owners as of 2012 are entrepreneurs who founded or started their own business as opposed to inheriting it or being appointed by a board of directors.

https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=SBO_2012_00CSCBO01&prodType=table


yeah, okay, this is true

but most of these are small firms without any real income and most of them will fail

to put it another way, I'm not impressed with someone who makes 10k gross from his yard care service and don't consider him successful just because he owns his business

for that matter, I could incorporate and have about that much business income if I wanted to

and I wouldn't do it by showing up early, staying late, or volunteering for shit jobs!


Who cares if most of them are small or if some will fail. The ability to fail is one of the pillars of the American dream. 100% of successful businesses started out this way. So first you deny that CEOs and business owners contribute anything to society, then you scowl at aspiring CEOs and entrepreneurs for not doing enough. Almost like you hate anyone who does anything proactive. What does it take to make you happy? Working for a wage you're not worth because you want to take what someone else has? Suckling from the government's teat?
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