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bryans7
09/15/20 2:10:44 AM
#102:


Morn

also Star Trek: Beyond

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ranagrande
09/15/20 8:16:57 AM
#103:


the Webster series finale
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PerfectChaosZ
09/15/20 11:22:44 AM
#104:


Best Version of the Enterprise from all the series
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Not_an_Owl
09/15/20 11:24:07 AM
#105:


That alternate future version of the Enterprise that had 3 warp nacelles

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09/15/20 11:25:34 AM
#106:


The Picard Maneuver
Assuming this is the FTL maneuver, and not pulling on his shirt, this is fine. It's cool to establish that Picard isn't just a diplomat, can is indeed capable of kicking ass by outsmarting people. It's a shame this comes up in basically one episode and never again, because it is a clever and interesting use of FTL in a space combat scenario. In fact, it's so clever that it's impossible to believe it was invented by Picard and not someone centuries before him, but okay.

Bajor
I wonder why Bajor was chosen for DS9's setting. That's a lie, I know -- it's because Bajorans have easy makeup for the thousands of extras. As a setting, Bajor is okay. It's fine. It's easily the least interesting of the planets and races that got a lot of attention. I mean, when you think of the major Star Trek races, it's Vulcans, Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, Ferengi, Bajorans, and... Orions? Andorians? My point is that there's a very clear line between the races that got a lot of attention from the writers and the races that didn't, and of the former category, Bajorans are the least interesting. Even the planet is basically just a nice-looking planet. You don't have the Vulcans' stark temples, the Klingons' warrior aesthetic, the Romulans' sharp angles, the Cardassians' fascism, or the Ferengis' domes and constant rain. This is part of why I was shocked when LD put a Bajoran as one of its main characters. I was like, "Woah, they know enough about Star Trek to remember Bajorans?"

Worf's Baldric
Worf's baldric comes up twice in the series. The first time it's when the crew loses its memories and everyone assumes Worf is in charge because he has a fancy sash, and when they learn the truth, Worf has to apologize to Picard while acting extremely embarrassed. That's a good moment and a good episode. The second time is when Riker rides Ro's ass for wearing a Bajoran religious earring against regulations, and she's like DUDE WORF'S THINGY and Riker has no real comeback for that.

What makes the baldric weird is that it's supposed to be a symbol of Worf's noble house. By itself, that's fine. But no other Klingon ever wears a baldric, including his brother! Very bizarre.

Gargoyles
I have only watched a tiny bit of Gargoyles, but I know that Johnathon Frakes and Marina Sirtis are on it. The only episode I've seen is the one where the bad guys turn a city to stone so they can steal one day from everyone's lives and become immortal. From what I remember, Frakes is the human mastermind villain and Sirtis is like a crazy gargoyle chick who's survived thousands of years and wants to wipe out humanity, right? Gargoyles always came across to me like a B-tier cartoon. It was never on the popularity level of something like Batman: TAS.

Morn
A brilliant addition to DS9. DS9 is very good about having a lot of memorable side characters, and Morn is one of them. He's always there in the bar, doing nothing, never really interacting with the plot (except that one time he does). His very existence implies that he has his own stories and that there are plenty of other alcoholics in the galaxy, and his design as an alien is fantastic.

Webster Series Finale
I will watch this later and make a writeup based on it. I hadn't heard of this until now.

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Make it So
Captain Jean-luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

The Beginning of Wisdom
The Mirror Universe
The Neutral Zone
The Rules of Acquisition
Data & Picard
The Doctor
Geordie's Epic Maneuver
Transporters

Assimilate This
Galaxy Quest
Q
Morn
Combadges
Tribbles
TNG Warp Core Sound
The Riker Lean
Frequency of Uniform Changes in Starfleet
Chain of Command Torture Sequence
Kirk is a Jerk Shirt
Timescape
The Chase
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
Duet
Children of Time
Ambassador-class Starship
Wolf in the Fold

Live Long and Prosper
Enterprise s3
Escape Pods
Gowron
Worf's Baldric
TOS Klingons
Technobabble
Gargoyles
RedLetterMedia's Picard Re:Views
Holodeck Episodes
Mike and Rich's Top 5 TNG episodes
Brent Spiner
The Picard Maneuver
Anagram
Raemes T. Quirk
Sanctuary Districts

Highly Illogical
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Bajor
STARFLEET The International Star Trek Fan Association
Prune Juice
For the Uniform
Sisko's Beard
The Rock's Appearance on Voyager
It's a Faaaaaaaaake!
Naomi Wildman
Valiant (DS9)
Sisko Punching Q
DS9/Babylon 5 Similarities

Get the Cheese to Sickbay
Harry Kim
Rom
Wil Wheaton
ENT's Reason for Klingon Forehead Ridges
Night Terrors
Flaunting Danger Clip
Beardless Riker
Star Trek Online
Wadi

This is the Power of Math, People
Riker's Pizza
Warp 10
The Outcast
God Aliens Not Respecting Consent
Climax of Into Darkness
Jennier Lien's Descent into Madness
The Rape Gangs of Turkana IV
Data x Borg Queen [robo][tf][buzzsaw]

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Lolo_Guru
09/15/20 11:35:54 AM
#107:


Cardassia
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redrocket
09/15/20 11:36:12 AM
#108:


Its too bad you didnt watch more Gargoyles, you missed out on literal Coldsteel the cyborg gargoyle, voiced by Micheal Dorn.

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Mega Mana
09/15/20 11:53:29 AM
#109:


The TOS SNL skit with John Belushi as Kirk

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CoolCly
09/15/20 11:57:21 AM
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I never really thought about how basic the Bajoran's are. Their primary features are being oppressed and their religion. The religion is alright, but not super memorable

I guess that mostly was the point - they were just a normal average race that got picked on by an actual chad Star Trek race (the Cardassians) and the Federation is just doing their thing helping these losers pick their shit back up and join the fold.

Giving them some more memorable features would have made DS9 even better though.

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PerfectChaosZ
09/15/20 12:53:06 PM
#111:


The Maquis
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MarkS222222222222222
09/15/20 12:59:51 PM
#112:


Replicators

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Jesse_Custer
09/15/20 1:04:42 PM
#113:


Wesley Crusher
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redrocket
09/15/20 1:13:34 PM
#114:


That one matte painting per planet that gets reused over and over and over to represent recurring alien worlds.

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ranagrande
09/15/20 1:31:18 PM
#115:


The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins
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VengefulKaelee
09/15/20 2:18:30 PM
#116:


Tom Paris' "Captain Proton" holonovels
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yellowwolley
09/15/20 2:47:01 PM
#117:


Tasha Yar

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Not_an_Owl
09/15/20 3:06:17 PM
#118:


These three you skipped over in previous updates:
Not_an_Owl posted...
That alternate future version of the Enterprise that had 3 warp nacelles

Not_an_Owl posted...
Riker swinging his leg over the back of a chair en route to sitting down

Not_an_Owl posted...
Worf and Dax's relationship


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09/15/20 3:37:38 PM
#119:


Webtrek
I've watched quite a few TV shows in my time, but my experience with non-ironic generic family comedies is limited to Home Improvement and things that were on Nick at Night. I'd never even heard of Webster. It's about a precocious backtalking black kid who was adopted by a white family, but he's played by an adult with a medical problem that makes him look like he's permanently six? ... I thought that was just Different Strokes, I didn't realize it was an entire genre.

It took me a second to even find this episode. The site I found said this episode isn't available commercially as of the upload four years ago, so I decided to check if it is now. Amazon only has seasons 1-4 on DVD. I have to believe that no one on Earth is willing to spend forty dollars on a Webster season 4 DVD, holy hell, how is this real?

The plot of this episode, the final episode of Webster, is that Webster is playing a video game, he presses the joystick too far forward, and this transports him to the bridge of the Enterprise three-hundred years in the future, captained by Worf. No other main TNG characters appear besides extras. Worf asks Webster questions about 1980s Earth culture to better understand the human concept of 'fun,' and Webster explains using flashbacks to other Webster episodes where he dances in a theater, plays baseball, and takes a short helicopter ride. Not only is this a TNG crossover episode, it's also a clipshow?!

There's only about six minutes of non-flashback footage in this 21-minute episode. I was going to treat this episode like a complete Star Trek work and make jokes about it that way, but really, I can't believe this. I have to believe that the family sitcom audience has almost no overlap with the space opera audience, right? If I was a Webster superfan in 1989, this would have to be the biggest betrayal of all time. None of the other main characters appear except in flashbacks, nothing is resolved as far as Webster's dynamic with his adopted parents goes, and they didn't even get Picard. They got Worf. This is like in Generations where DeForest Kelley and Leonard Nimoy refused to be in the movie, so Kirk shows up with his best friends Scotty and Chekov.

Aw hell, I lied, I'm going to criticize this like a serious Star Trek episode anyway. So Worf tells Webster that they cycle through the bridge crew on shifts, and everyone else is asleep right now, leaving him as the ranking officer. That makes sense, that's good. But when a small child from the 1980s teleports onto the bridge, Worf doesn't wake up Picard, doesn't ask Data for help, doesn't tell Troi to come up and make sure the kid is just a normal kid, doesn't do any of that? Data doesn't even sleep, dude. Worf also doesn't confiscate this clearly powerful and dangerous joystick from Webster, you'd think that a time travel device in the hands of a six year-old is only going to cause problems. Worf then just allows Webster to stay on the bridge while they travel through a space thingy, and tells Webster the way to return home is just to press the joystick forward again. How does he know that? Tell me, Worf! Why are you giving information about the future to this time-traveled kid you plan to send back to the past? And at 14:30, an engineer calls Worf to say the ship is safe, and it's clearly just some guy saying that, not a trained Starfleet engineer, you can just tell by the bad acting, it's different from Star Trek bad acting. Worf also criticizes Webster's clothing, saying "You look like an Earthling, but your style of dress is puzzling," but dude, even by 24th century standards, this is pretty unremarkable, Webster is just wearing a zebra-striped shirt, give him a break. Overall, Worf is shockingly irresponsible in this episode and needs to have, at minimum, a serious report lodged against him.

... and honestly, was "Webtrek" really the best they could do? Not "Live Long and Webster?" Not "Beam Me Up, Webby?" Not "Set Websters to stun?" Webtrek was the best they could do?

I also need to specifically criticize the helicopter flashback, where Webster and his parents fly over San Francisco and talk about what they see. It's literally just two minutes of stock aerial footage of the Golden Gate bridge while the characters talk over it. And since that's a flashback, that means it happened in a previous episode! The Webster producers made their fans watch this lengthy footage of the Golden Gate bridge while three characters narrate over it twice. That's four minutes of life wasted.

As a Star Trek fan, I'm appalled at Worf's reckless behavior, and as a Webster fan, I can't believe the series finale is a clip show with six minutes of actually new footage, in which Webster's family, the other main characters of the show, play no part.

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Make it So
Captain Jean-luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

The Beginning of Wisdom
The Mirror Universe
The Neutral Zone
The Rules of Acquisition
Data & Picard
The Doctor
Geordie's Epic Maneuver
Transporters

Assimilate This
Galaxy Quest
Q
Morn
Combadges
Tribbles
TNG Warp Core Sound
The Riker Lean
Frequency of Uniform Changes in Starfleet
Chain of Command Torture Sequence
Kirk is a Jerk Shirt
Timescape
The Chase
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
Duet
Children of Time
Ambassador-class Starship
Wolf in the Fold

Live Long and Prosper
Enterprise s3
Escape Pods
Gowron
Worf's Baldric
TOS Klingons
Technobabble
Gargoyles
RedLetterMedia's Picard Re:Views
Holodeck Episodes
Mike and Rich's Top 5 TNG episodes
Brent Spiner
The Picard Maneuver
Anagram
Raemes T. Quirk
Sanctuary Districts

Highly Illogical
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Bajor
STARFLEET The International Star Trek Fan Association
Prune Juice
For the Uniform
Sisko's Beard
The Rock's Appearance on Voyager
It's a Faaaaaaaaake!
Naomi Wildman
Valiant (DS9)
Sisko Punching Q
DS9/Babylon 5 Similarities

Get the Cheese to Sickbay
Harry Kim
Rom
Wil Wheaton
ENT's Reason for Klingon Forehead Ridges
Night Terrors
Flaunting Danger Clip
Beardless Riker
Star Trek Online
Webtrek
Wadi

This is the Power of Math, People
Riker's Pizza
Warp 10
The Outcast
God Aliens Not Respecting Consent
Climax of Into Darkness
Jennier Lien's Descent into Madness
The Rape Gangs of Turkana IV
Data x Borg Queen [robo][tf][buzzsaw]

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09/15/20 5:26:18 PM
#120:


Star Trek: Beyond
It attempts to be about a real sci-fi idea, isn't entirely about violence, and there are some genuine character-building scenes with Kirk, which is good. But the movie has things like a Beastie Boys song destroying the enemy fleet, it's difficult to even remember what Idris Elba's plan is (by the way, he's wasted in that role under all the makeup), the action scenes are pretty dumb, and it's just overall not a fun movie.

Weird side note: George Takei maintained for decades that although he was gay, Sulu was straight. But someone wanted one of the main characters in this franchise to be gay, so Sulu has a one-second scene with his husband. How annoyed are you about this if you're George Takei?

Cardassia Prime
Probably my favorite planet in Star Trek; I wish we'd seen more of it. The brutal fascist aesthetics, the complete lack of freedom and creativity, the haughty attitude of the people, it's all great. It has my favorite detail of any Star Trek faction, which is how trials aren't about proving guilt or innocence, only about showing how you committed a crime and allowing you to beg the state for mercy. It tells you so much about their culture. If DS9 was made today, I'm sure they'd also have social credit scores.

The TOS SNL skit with John Belushi as Kirk
Haven't seen this; will watch it later and rank it.

The Maquis
I'm going to assume this is the group, and not the episode named after the group. The Maquis are born of a fun concept: what happens when the Federation's desire for peace runs up against its desire to treat its citizens on the frontier fairly? What happens when people can't rely on their government to protect them? The Maquis explore that, and then the moment their purpose is done, the Dominion casually destroys them all. Poor Ensign Ro, did you ever choose the wrong horse to back.

Replicators
I actually thought you meant the Stargate spiders until I remembered. Replicators are fine. They let the heroes have access to whatever minor objects the plot requires them to have and establish how advanced we are. As a plot device, they're not as interesting or special as the transporter or holodeck, though. It's also kind of funny that we're edging closer and closer to them becoming reality with 3D printing.

Wesley Crusher
He's bad, but not even in the bottom 3 Star Trek characters. If you include DIS and PIC, he might not even be in the bottom 8.

That one matte painting per planet that gets reused over and over and over to represent recurring alien worlds
I know exactly the one you mean; it's kind of purple and red.

Captain Proton Holonovels
On the one hand, I have a hard time believing anyone in the future would care about a 1920s vision of their time. On the other hand, fine. There are a couple of fun episodes set here, like the one where Janeway dresses up as an evil empress and the one with the photonic aliens who assume all organic life is fake.

Tasha Yar
I can't rightly blame Denise Crosby for ditching the show; she couldn't have known it would blow up like that. But man, it leaves Yar with nothing. She comes back for one last great episode, where she sacrifices herself to stop some Romulans and save the future. Then it's revealed that she was raped in a concentration camp, gave birth to a daughter who betrayed her, and died off-screen. That gave us some good episodes with the daughter, but man, Yar as a character just could not catch a break.

Best Version of the Enterprise from all the Series
I looked up all of the versions of the Enterprise on Memory-Alpha for this. I'm giving this one to the D. The Enterprise-E was a downgrade as far as I'm concerned.

Alternate Future 3-Nacelle Enterprise
I'm assuming you mean the Enterprise-J, even though it only has two warp nacelles. The best thing about it is the TOTALLY REAL hallway set that they TOTALLY BUILT.
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/8/8c/USS_Enterprise-J_corridor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20051219190549&path-prefix=en

Riker Chair Maneuver
Absolute power move. This is a major benefit in negotiations with uppity aliens who aren't tall enough to pull this off.

Worf x Dax
To be honest, I never completely bought it. I know Dax has the experience of being a friend to the Klingons and a great warrior, and Terry Farrell is 6'0", but she's clearly not hanging with Worf in a fight. I always imagined Worf as settling down with another giant Klingon woman like himself. Add to that that Dax's primary interest is science (which, I might have to call Dax the worst of the science officers, it's between her and T'Pol), which Worf clearly has zero interest in, and ehhhh. I'll accept this, but I was never completely into it.

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Make it So
Captain Jean-luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

The Beginning of Wisdom
The Mirror Universe
Enterprise-D
Cardassia Prime
The Neutral Zone
The Rules of Acquisition
Riker Chair Maneuver
Data & Picard
The Doctor
Geordie's Epic Maneuver
Transporters

Assimilate This
Galaxy Quest
Q
Morn
Combadges
Tribbles
TNG Warp Core Sound
The Riker Lean
Frequency of Uniform Changes in Starfleet
Chain of Command Torture Sequence
Kirk is a Jerk Shirt
Timescape
The Chase
That One Matte Painting
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
Duet
Children of Time
Ambassador-class Starship
Wolf in the Fold

Live Long and Prosper
Enterprise s3
Replicators
Escape Pods
Gowron
Worf's Baldric
TOS Klingons
Technobabble
The Maquis
Gargoyles
RedLetterMedia's Picard Re:Views
Holodeck Episodes
Mike and Rich's Top 5 TNG episodes
Brent Spiner
The Picard Maneuver
Anagram
Raemes T. Quirk
Sanctuary Districts

Highly Illogical
Captain Proton Holonovel
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Enterprise-J
Bajor
STARFLEET The International Star Trek Fan Association
Prune Juice
For the Uniform
Sisko's Beard
Tasha Yar
The Rock's Appearance on Voyager
It's a Faaaaaaaaake!
Naomi Wildman
Valiant (DS9)
Sisko Punching Q
DS9/Babylon 5 Similarities

Get the Cheese to Sickbay
Worf x Dax
Harry Kim
Wesley Crusher
Rom
Star Trek: Beyond
Wil Wheaton
ENT's Reason for Klingon Forehead Ridges
Night Terrors
Flaunting Danger Clip
Beardless Riker
Star Trek Online
Webtrek
Wadi

This is the Power of Math, People
Riker's Pizza
Warp 10
The Outcast
God Aliens Not Respecting Consent
Climax of Into Darkness
Jennier Lien's Descent into Madness
The Rape Gangs of Turkana IV
Data x Borg Queen [robo][tf][buzzsaw]

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09/15/20 5:26:43 PM
#121:


Not_an_Owl posted...
These three you skipped over in previous updates:
Thanks for this, by the way.

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Not_an_Owl
09/15/20 5:41:39 PM
#122:


Anagram posted...
Alternate Future 3-Nacelle Enterprise
I'm assuming you mean the Enterprise-J, even though it only has two warp nacelles.
I was actually thinking of this one, which I looked up to make sure I wasn't inventing its existence: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-D)?file=USS_Enterprise-D%2C_anti-time_future.jpg

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PerfectChaosZ
09/15/20 5:46:05 PM
#123:


The concept of Tuvix
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Lolo_Guru
09/15/20 5:49:58 PM
#124:


Earth.
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Eddv
09/15/20 6:03:48 PM
#125:


Fungus power engines

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redrocket
09/15/20 6:37:46 PM
#126:


The Cage

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Cybat
09/15/20 6:45:35 PM
#127:


Lwaxana Troi

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bryans7
09/15/20 7:03:04 PM
#128:


Miles O'Brien. And while the comedy in Lower Decks was hit and miss, the Miles joke was perfect.

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bryans7
09/15/20 7:04:52 PM
#129:


Also, Karl Urban's Dr. McCoy

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Hbthebattle
09/15/20 7:22:47 PM
#130:


Zapp Brannigan
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09/15/20 7:36:50 PM
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Not_an_Owl posted...
I was actually thinking of this one, which I looked up to make sure I wasn't inventing its existence: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-D)?file=USS_Enterprise-D%2C_anti-time_future.jpg
Oh man, I didn't remember this at all.

Antitime Future Enterprise-D
This is one ugly ship. I completely understand the idea of showing the ship refit, since it's established that happens occasionally, but the Federation's aesthetic only works with even-numbered nacelles, I'm sorry.

Tuvix
Another transporter accident, eh? Because the nomination specifies "the concept of Tuvix," I'll limit my writeup to that instead of Janeway's psychopathic response to Tuvix. Basically, it's one of the more interesting ideas VOY has. What if two people merge, but instead of just being a dude with all of their knowledge, he has a unique personality, desires, needs, and uniform? ... They probably should've gotten rid of the uniform, though. Poor Tuvix. He's a cool idea, but the only thing people remember him for is begging Janeway not to kill him.

Earth
The galaxy's most boring planet, which is how it should be. Earth works best as the perfect utopia the heroes talk about but that we don't really see much of.

The Mycelial Network
This might be the single plot element in Discovery I hate the most. I hate everything in Discovery, of course, and I could rant about it for a while, but the Mycelial Network is on a whole different level.

Here's the thing: it's the Force. It's the Force, but they added a science word to make it sound less stupid. "Interdimensional mushrooms connect all life and existence" is pretty stupid, of course, but then you get to its usage. Teleporting ships are just the start. They resurrect the doctor somehow, don't ask me how it happens, they allow travel to different dimensions, and Mirror Stametz creates a machine that will blow up "the multiverse" (the exact words used) if the heroes don't stop it. They have the power to do anything, is what I'm saying. And why? Why has no other civilization ever discovered the secrets of interdimensional mushrooms?

I want to emphasize the mushroom aspect, by the way. There is no reason for it to be mushrooms specifically. Nothing is done with that concept. They just wanted to use a science word.

The Cage
Ah, the original pilot. Honestly, it's good, but it was a wise choice to make a new one. The Cage is very slow and pondering. It's not as bad as something like Space: 1999, which bores me to tears even as a guy who likes boring space stuff, but making TOS slightly more action-y worked to its advantage. It's hard to expand on The Cage without talking about DIS, and I made a conscious decision not to talk about it unless someone brings it up through a nomination, so I'll end it there.

Lwaxana Troi
Does literally anyone like her? Are there Lwaxana Troi fanboys out there I don't know about? I know she's written to be annoying, because all of the characters groan whenever she shows up, but give me a break, that means you still know she's annoying. The only good thing that she ever added was the scene where Picard looks relieved when someone tells him she's getting married.

Miles O'Brien
O'Brien is the most 'normal guy' of any Star Trek, at least of the characters who are actually characters (hello, Mayweather). He works as your down-to-earth mechanic guy in a way that isn't grating, as opposed to that one mechanic on Discodammit. Like with Harry Kim, they paired him up with a more interesting character: Bashir. Unlike with Harry Kim, they managed to still make O'Brien interesting in his own right. Poor guy is still married to a Japanese hate ghost, though.

O'Brien doesn't have a lot of epic dramatic decisions to make. He leaves that to the officers and just focuses on his job as a mechanic and occasionally shooting at Cardassians. To me, the defining Miles O'Brien moment is Best of Both Worlds. In part 2, LeVar Burton had to drop out of the filming, which is why he only appears for five seconds. They gave his part of "Guy who reads a computer that analyzes the captured Borg-Picard" to O'Brien, since he was the next most tech-y guy besides Data (who already had a part). So O'Brien is reading the computer, telling Data and Crusher about what's going on in Picard's borgified brain, when Picard goes nuts and tries to kill them all. The heroes have to stop him, and O'Brien just looks over, then looks back to the computer. "Not my job," you can read it on his face. I love it.

Leonard McCoy (Abramsverse)
By far the best of the Abramsverse versions, McCoy is the only one who I would say is as good as the original and manages to capture the original's spirit. Spock is wildly inferior to the original, Kirk, Scotty, and Chekov are parodies of themselves, Uhura is a completely different character, and Sulu... Actually, okay, Sulu is as good as the original, too, for whatever that's worth. Karl Urban manages to play a cantankerous doctor as well as DeForest Kelley. He's trying and failing to carry those movies, and I respect that.

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Murphiroth
09/15/20 7:38:49 PM
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Admiral Helena Cain

This one's a bit of a stretch admittedly but it's vaguely connected!

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bryans7
09/15/20 7:54:51 PM
#133:


This is fun. Sorry most of mine are characters.

Uhura

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

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SovietOmega
09/15/20 8:06:35 PM
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Miles O'Brien

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09/15/20 8:14:59 PM
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I want to emphasize the mushroom aspect, by the way. There is no reason for it to be mushrooms specifically. Nothing is done with that concept. They just wanted to use a science word.

Ehh I think they did weave in a layer of it being a psychedelic head trip on top of a technobabble plot device. The spore drive augments Stamets' attitudes and behavior, abuse of it takes everyone on a bad trip to the mirror universe. Thematically the concept is about microdosing, hence the blatant reference to Paul Stamets.
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09/15/20 8:17:12 PM
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USS Defiant (NX-74205)

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09/15/20 8:18:07 PM
#137:


Murphiroth posted...


This one's a bit of a stretch admittedly but it's vaguely connected!
I'll allow it.

bryans7 posted...
Sorry most of mine are characters.
Don't mind at all.

Seginustemple posted...
Ehh I think they did weave in a layer of it being a psychedelic head trip on top of a technobabble plot device. The spore drive augments Stamets' attitudes and behavior, abuse of it takes everyone on a bad trip to the mirror universe. Thematically the concept is about microdosing, hence the blatant reference to Paul Stamets.
I... guess I can accept that, although I still don't like the idea.

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PerfectChaosZ
09/15/20 9:33:44 PM
#138:


Admiral Katherine Janeway
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09/15/20 9:46:47 PM
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Caitians

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09/15/20 10:06:06 PM
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Elnor (Picard)

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09/15/20 10:22:02 PM
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The Picard Song
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09/15/20 10:54:49 PM
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Ah, shoot...missed a refresh wherein page 3 happened and that Miles was already selected XD

Alright then, howabout Andorians.


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09/15/20 10:56:54 PM
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Its amazing you happened to choose the same character at all.

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bryans7
09/15/20 11:04:45 PM
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Miles is that great.

Also: The Host (TNG Episode)

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09/15/20 11:18:04 PM
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redrocket posted...
This show actually is in continuity! Wrap your brain around that!

i got irrationally upset when i googled something about the show plus "memory beta" assuming all Lower Decks info would be contained there and boy was i fucking surprised when i got memory alpha pages describing the events of the episodes as canon

which really reframes how i view the show now, i know it's a nerdy thing to complain about but it definitely irks me when shit like Badgey happens and I'm thinking "this is the same universe where picard was interrogated for an entire two parter"

then again i guess this is also canon:

https://i.imgur.com/XtPqELV.gif

please rank the above gif

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09/15/20 11:35:27 PM
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Mudd

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09/16/20 12:32:07 AM
#147:


ZenOfThunder posted...
i got irrationally upset when i googled something about the show plus "memory beta" assuming all Lower Decks info would be contained there and boy was i fucking surprised when i got memory alpha pages describing the events of the episodes as canon

which really reframes how i view the show now, i know it's a nerdy thing to complain about but it definitely irks me when shit like Badgey happens and I'm thinking "this is the same universe where picard was interrogated for an entire two parter"

then again i guess this is also canon:

https://i.imgur.com/XtPqELV.gif

please rank the above gif

I mean, Spocks Brain is canon, so lets not pretend that Star Trek is above this kind of stuff.

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09/16/20 12:38:27 AM
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ZenOfThunder posted...
i got irrationally upset when i googled something about the show plus "memory beta" assuming all Lower Decks info would be contained there and boy was i f***ing surprised when i got memory alpha pages describing the events of the episodes as canon

which really reframes how i view the show now, i know it's a nerdy thing to complain about but it definitely irks me when s*** like Badgey happens and I'm thinking "this is the same universe where picard was interrogated for an entire two parter"
Badgey being canon doesn't really bother me that much. It bothers me more how not Star Trek-y everyone behaves in that show. I really feel that the 'no one in Star Trek curses' thing was part of just how humans act in the future, and that Data screaming s*** in Genesis is clearly just a joke. Of course, I can't blame LD for this, this is something that DIS and PIC are also extremely guilty of.

I forgot that Mariner is literally introduced getting drunk on the job and stabbing a guy with a sword, but the show presents her like her rulebreaking is a good thing.

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09/16/20 1:10:41 AM
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Changelings

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09/16/20 1:33:09 AM
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Ah hell, I'll do another round before watching the SNL thing.

Helena Cain
A great way to shake things up in BSG and pay tribute to the original series. I've watched both BSGs, and like most things, the remake does it better. She plays a good role as Adama's foil: both captain warships that survive the Cylon attack and find a fleet of civilian ships, but where Adama decides the war is lost and tries to rescue people, Cain sacrifices all of the people she could have saved in order to keep fighting. She's unreasonable without being crazy, and it's completely understandable why Adama would almost assassinate her before deciding against it. It also gives us one of the best scenes in the show, where Adama just directly and casually tells Starbuck to kill her when he gives the code word, and then when he decides not to, she's incredibly relieved.

Oh, and the actress played Ensign Ro, I guess.

Uhura
Look, I know Uhura is important as a cultural icon, as one of the first black women on American TV who wasn't a maid or something, but as an actual character, she's a complete non-entity. Even Nurse Chapel at least pined over Spock. What does Uhura have? She has the fact that she occasionally sings and that her ideal man is a buff dude speaking Swahili. This is one thing I can't really fault the Abramsverse for. Changing Uhura to be a completely different person was basically necessary.

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
I admit that from an objective standpoint, this is the worst Star Trek movie. But it has weird ideas, it has the heroes approaching problems without violence, it has a three-breasted cat hooker defeated by throwing her into water, it has a gag about a planet of peace being forgotten about and all of the worst diplomats being sent there to get rid of them, it has a god alien shooting lightning bolts out of its eyes, and it has a 60 year-old woman doing a striptease. It's terrible, but it has some amount of soul, you know? I don't hate it. I don't hate it.

USS Defiant
Perfectly designed. It is completely believable that this is the Federation's version of a warship, right down to classifying it as not technically a warship. They also really got all the mileage possible out of the cloaking device. Its introduction marks when the show stops being about the space station and starts being more about the upcoming war. One of my favorite DS9 things is how when the ship is introduced, they make a big deal out of having to have a Romulan attache, and then she never shows up again.

Katherine Janeway
The problem with Janeway is twofold. First, she's very clearly 'the female captain.' Sisko was never 'the black captain,' but Janeway is absolutely 'the female captain.' They wanted Janeway to be strong and empowered and also to not have to worry about romance, so they establish that she's engaged to some boring guy in episode 1 who will not be in the rest of the series so that she'll have a reason to never look at another man. One of the best VOY moments is after she learns he left her for another woman (in his defense, he thought she was dead), she starts a holodeck program and falls in love with the lead hologram, but he already has a wife, so the camera pans in on her face and she deadpan says "Computer... Delete the wife." That's ****ing hilarious.

Second, Janeway is also supposed to be a scientist. Kirk is an adventurer, Picard is a diplomat, Sisko is a warrior, and Janeway is supposedly a scientist. The problem is that the writers have no idea how to write a scientist. The way to write a scientist is to have them puzzle through possibilities until they arrive at an explanation for whatever wacky space shenanigans are happening. It's basically the same as writing a detective, which is why Spock fits so easily into the role of a murder detective in TUC.

Third, and I lied there are three things wrong with her, her ethics are extremely inconsistent. Kate Mulgrew eventually admitted that she played Janeway as schizophrenic because there was no other way to explain her actions.

Caitians
A perfectly serviceable race of cat aliens. There's nothing to really say about them because no one has ever expanded upon them in any way. They don't even behave particularly cattish. What's with cat people, anyway? Someone get Japan in here to explain.

I was going to say that they have an inconsistent appearance and post all of the Caitians who have shown up in Star Trek, only to look at them and realize that if you assume they have as much diversity as, say, breeds of house cats or types of big cats, then they're actually pretty consistent. I was shocked. Score for Lower Decks, I suppose.
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Elnor
"Okay, Mr. Kurtzman, so far our main characters are Picard, a magical teenage girl genius who's the key to saving or destroying the universe whom he must adopt, a woman who's poor and lives in a trailer on Earth, a planet where poverty doesn't exist, a roboticist woman who's too stupid to be a roboticist, and a Latino guy, whose character is that he speaks Spanish sometimes. We have room in the budget for one more character."

"NINJA"

"But sir--"

"NINJA WHO SAYS BADASS LINES BEFORE HE KILLS YOU"

Honestly, did Kurtzman think "Please, friend, choose to live" is a badass threat to make before fighting you? I also oppose the Romulans laughing at him and calling him "Ladyman" for being raised by nuns, they have never displayed sexism in the past.

But honestly, if we're being real here? Elnor is probably the most pleasant person in the show. He's the only character who doesn't have a dark and tragic backstory, and he's the only one who approaches things with an optimistic attitude. I still don't think he's a proper Star Trek character, but he's better than the others.

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09/16/20 1:33:14 AM
#153:


Picard Song
Here's to the finest crew

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STARFLEET

Engage.

I played Xenogears while listening to a podcast that uses the Picard Song as its intro and outro, so whenever I hear this song, I now think of Xenogears, which is unfortunate.

Andorians
Did you know Andorians were banned from TNG, DS9, and VOY for being too silly-looking? Only one appears for like three seconds in a holodeck during one episode of TNG. One of ENT s1's only good decisions was bringing them back and expanding on them.

They're also sort of an iconic Star Trek alien despite their sparse appearances. They're not on the level of Vulcans or anything, but they're a solid "Oh, it's that guy" sort of alien. I'm sad that their culture is so boring, though. ENT could have done anything with them, and it gives them a really boring warrior culture. Ah well, it's something.

The Host
Who nominated this? I'm too lazy to check. Why would you waste a nomination on this of all things? I'm judging you harshly, mystery person.

So the premise of this episode is that the trill are a species of humanoids who can bond for life with a symbiont who mind controls them for the rest of their lives and there is no benefit to agreeing, but they always agree. Crusher falls in love with one, but its host dies, so it has to be implanted in Riker to survive until a new trill can show up. Crusher is weirded out by symbiont!Riker being interested in her, but she's even more weirded out when the new host shows up and it's a lady. Honestly, I can't really judge Crusher for not being interested in this anymore. I can't blame her for being straight, that's fine, and I super can't blame her for pushing the escape button on a relationship where her boyfriend had three different bodies in a week.

DS9 made basically every decision correctly about the trill. Change it so they merge minds instead of taking over, change it so they have sexy spots instead of wacky foreheads, change basically everything except the basic premise. That's how you expand on a preestablished race, ENT. We don't need Andorian generic warrior cultures and Orion slave auctions where a guy fondles T'Pol's boobs. I can't believe that's canon.

Q's Mariachi Band
One of the classic 4chan Star Trek images, alongside Picard's facepalm. It's cringey in the context of the episode, but it makes for a great reaction image.

Harry Mudd
God, another character ruined by DIS. I'm sorry, I'm genuinely trying, but give me a break here, he's on DIS, there's nothing I can do about it.

In TOS, Mudd is just a rogue. He shows up twice, he has wacky plans to make money by doing slightly evil things, but he's not a murderous psychopath with the power to destroy the Federation. In DIS, though? He's introduced in a Klingon prison and betrays the other humans. They escape, but leave him to be tortured to death. Now, we don't know this at the time, but those humans are really a Mirror Universe human and an undercover Klingon agent, so I can actually accept for once that they'd act like no Federation human would ever act. I'm okay with that.

But then Mudd shows up again, reveals that he has a magical time travel crystal (why he didn't use it to escape the Klingons is left unexplained), and he plans to use it to steal Discovery and sell it to the Klingons to destroy the Federation with, all to make money and get revenge for leaving him behind. So there's a Groundhog Day episode where Stametz is the only one besides Mudd who can see what's going on, but the episode still manages to be about Burnham's relationship with Ash (barf), and when they defeat Mudd, they wackily contact his ex-girlfriend and she's like OH IT'S MUDD I LOVE YOU MUDD PLEASE HAVE SEX WITH ME and everyone smiles and laughs like haha we outwitted Mudd, now he's forced to marry the beautiful princess of a planet (because the Federation has royalty now) for the crimes of trying to destroy the Federation and uncountable murders. I take it back, Spock is not the TOS character most ruined by DIS, it's Harry Mudd.

The most shocking thing in all of Discovery to me, and this will sound like a joke but it's not, is that Mudd's girlfriend in that episode has the same name as his wife in TOS. I couldn't believe it. I could not believe that someone had actually googled his wife's name and used it correctly. I'm still amazed.

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Captain Jean-luc Picard of the USS Enterprise

The Beginning of Wisdom
The Mirror Universe
Enterprise-D
Cardassia Prime
The Neutral Zone
The Rules of Acquisition
USS Defiant
Riker Chair Maneuver
Data & Picard
The Doctor
Geordie's Epic Maneuver
Transporters
Picard Song

Assimilate This
Galaxy Quest
Q
Leonard McCoy (Abramsverse)
Morn
Combadges
Tribbles
TNG Warp Core Sound
Tuvix
The Riker Lean
Frequency of Uniform Changes in Starfleet
Chain of Command Torture Sequence
Kirk is a Jerk Shirt
Timescape
The Chase
That One Matte Painting
Where No Fan Has Gone Before
Miles O'Brien
Duet
Children of Time
Ambassador-class Starship
Wolf in the Fold

Live Long and Prosper
Q's Mariachi Band
Enterprise s3
Replicators
Escape Pods
Gowron
The Cage
Earth
Worf's Baldric
TOS Klingons
Technobabble
The Maquis
Gargoyles
RedLetterMedia's Picard Re:Views
Holodeck Episodes
Mike and Rich's Top 5 TNG episodes
Andorians
Brent Spiner
The Picard Maneuver
Anagram
Raemes T. Quirk
Helena Cain
Sanctuary Districts
Caitians

Highly Illogical
Captain Proton Holonovel
Star Trek: Lower Decks
Star Trek: The Animated Series
Enterprise-J
Bajor
STARFLEET The International Star Trek Fan Association
Prune Juice
For the Uniform
Sisko's Beard
Uhura
Tasha Yar
The Rock's Appearance on Voyager
It's a Faaaaaaaaake!
Naomi Wildman
Valiant (DS9)
Sisko Punching Q
DS9/Babylon 5 Similarities

Get the Cheese to Sickbay
Worf x Dax
Harry Kim
Wesley Crusher
Elnor
Rom
Star Trek: Beyond
Antitime Future Enterprise-D
Wil Wheaton
ENT's Reason for Klingon Forehead Ridges
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Night Terrors
Flaunting Danger Clip
Beardless Riker
Katherine Janeway
The Host
Star Trek Online
Webtrek
Wadi

This is the Power of Math, People
Lwaxana Troi
Riker's Pizza
Warp 10
The Outcast
Harry Mudd
God Aliens Not Respecting Consent
Climax of Into Darkness
The Mycelial Network
Jennier Lien's Descent into Madness
The Rape Gangs of Turkana IV
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