Board 8 > NCAA Games II: Week 9 Results and Discussion Topic

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NCAA Games II week by week schedules (including past results):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdEtadTB0dEhmX3JxZkZfdzdhTHF6WGc&hl=en#gid=0

NCAA Games II Conference Breakdowns (including a quicker, faster look at individual games' opponents, wins, and losses):

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AvxHjoIdpiozdDhfenhraVlvNlk3VkUzb0tFalMtYUE&hl=en#gid=0

This week's top 25:

1. Chrono Trigger (1)
2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (6)
3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (8)
4. Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow (3)
5. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater (5)
6. Resident Evil 4 (7)
7. Super Mario 64 (2)
8. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (4)
9. Super Smash Bros. Melee (12)
10. Super Mario World (9)
11. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations (14)
12. Paper Mario (11)
13. Metal Gear Solid (16)
14. Final Fantasy X (17)
15. Super Mario Galaxy 2 (20)
16. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (18)
17. Metroid Prime (19)
18. Super Metroid (10)
19. Super Mario Galaxy (21)
20. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island (15)
21. Final Fantasy VI (22)
22. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (13)
23. Portal (NR)
24. Final Fantasy IX (23)
25. Mega Man 2 (24)

Dropped off: Final Fantasy VII (25t), Tales of Symphonia (25t)

Also receiving votes:

54 - The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
34 - Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest
31 - Final Fantasy VII
26 - Batman: Arkham Asylum
23 - Star Fox 64
22 - Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
17 - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
15 - Bioshock
14 - Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
12 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
5 - Tales of Symphonia
1 - Assassin's Creed II

Lots of shakeup all over the place this week due to the abundance of upsets last week. Swirl's late vote puts MM2 back into the top 25 over Twilight Princess and denies it a spot once again. For some reason, voters abandoned FFVII hardcore this week. Didn't even get close to the top 25. Portal makes a grand return after a big win over Symphonia, who also drops off.

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Total points for the top 25:

396 - Chrono Trigger
342 - Super Mario Bros. 3
342 - The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
339 - Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow
323 - Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
323 - Resident Evil 4
298 - Super Mario 64
276 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
258 - Super Smash Bros. Melee
231 - Super Mario World
192 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
189 - Paper Mario
188 - Metal Gear Solid
184 - Final Fantasy X
164 - Super Mario Galaxy 2
137 - Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney
124 - Metroid Prime
110 - Super Metroid
104 - Super Mario Galaxy
99 - Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
69 - Final Fantasy VI
68 - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
63 - Portal
60 - Final Fantasy IX
57 - Mega Man 2

CT is #1 with a bullet now. Very tight race for #2 now, and RE caught up to MGS3 this week, for some reason. Big logjam in the 11-14 range, too.

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RE4 was ahead until swirl voted, too.

You can blame him for that if you like as well.

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A one-loss game is now #2. Huh. At least it's behind the game that beat it.

And man, Twilight Princess just doesn't want to be ranked. Maybe it will be after it wins today...!

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If TP wins today and doesn't get ranked, I'm crying conspiracy.

Hopefully, it doesn't come to that.

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If TP beats FFX, the pathetic schedule argument becomes moot. So yes, it will get ranked.

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Yeah TP > FFX should put TP in the top 25 no matter what.

Then again it still has to defeat FFX.

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Assassin's Creed II vs. MVP Baseball 2005

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I'm amazed people actually prefer TP to FFX.

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The Real Truth posted...
I'm amazed people actually prefer TP to FFX.

Well they are two completely different games with very little similarities. I don't see where the confusion is at

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Did we do a Half-Life 2/Portal match yet?

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We haven't, but I was thinking that would be more of a Week 30 match.

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How about Sonic 3 & Knuckles vs. Metal Gear Solid

Relive the passion of Solid Snake vs. Knuckles from the contest.

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It'll probably end as well as Snake vs. Knuckles did in the contests, too!

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Although we should probably have a Mario vs. Sonic series or something.

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You could make a conference out of all the Marios and Sonics we've got in this tournament.

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Let's see others that I can think of from the top of my head, not sure whether or not these matches will end in blowouts though...

Donkey Kong Country vs. Banjo Kazooie (rare battle)
Grand Theft Auto IV vs. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Phoenix Wright T&T (or the original) vs. Pokemon Black/White (system battle)
Shining Force II vs. Gunstar Heroes (system battle)
Soul Calibur II vs. Mortal Kombat II
Super Metroid vs. Metroid Prime (maybe week 30)
Umineko vs. something hated

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Only problem with Mario vs. Sonic is that it would be a very one sided series.

The only ones that could lose would be Mario Kart DS and Super Mario Sunshine and even then they could win.

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Eh, we just had both PW games face Pokemon games last week.

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Hey, Sonic Adventure 2 has the same record as most top tier Mario games! It could put up a fight!

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I dunno, I think Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs. Sonic Colors might be a decent match. I know that I'd definitely vote for Sonic in that match!

And speaking of "matches made to shut up a certain voter", I should remind you that Missingno., breaker of the Noble Nine, had completely disappeared from the Pokémon series by the time Gold and Silver came out and that is a totally legitimate excuse for Chrono Trigger vs. Pokémon Red/Blue/Yellow during rivalry week. Either Chrono Trigger wins and dispels any doubt that it's the strongest game in the contest (13 of the 16 voters had CT at #1 this week, and the other 3 all had RBY there), or RBY wins and proves that it's the strongest game in this contest.

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TsunamiXXVIII posted...
or RBY wins and proves that it's the strongest game in this contest.

The only match that will prove this is the tournament final!

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Since Leon apparently wants to leave SFF matches for last, we should instead resort to misc. rivalries of some sort, obviously. So...I'll think of a few:

Resident Evil 2 vs. Silent Hill 2
Super Mario Bros. 3 vs. Sonic 3 & Knuckles
Sonic Adventure 2 vs. Super Mario Galaxy (battle of the 3D platformers in outer space, plus Mario vs. Sonic again!)
Chrono Trigger vs. Super Mario 64
Kingdom Hearts vs. Metroid Prime
Super Mario Galaxy vs. Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare vs. Grand Theft Auto IV

I seriously think that both GTAIV and Battletoads actually have decent strength and that Battletoads would wreck Modern Warfare in a rematch.

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From: LinkMarioSamus | #028
and that Battletoads would wreck Modern Warfare in a rematch.

Whoops CoD4's only win was against Battletoads

Try again!

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Umineko vs. World of Warcraft would be one hell of a rivalry match.

Both on the PC, both are the most heavily anti-voted games, it could get intense!

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Sounds like the thing Week 30 Rivalries are made of!

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LeonhartFour posted...
From: LinkMarioSamus | #028
and that Battletoads would wreck Modern Warfare in a rematch.
Whoops CoD4's only win was against Battletoads

Try again!

That was back in what, week 3? 2? Lol.

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It doesn't matter when it happened. Call of Duty 4 beat it. Battletoads doesn't get to face it again. Battletoads has routinely looked like one of the weakest games in the contest. There are very few games (if any) that it would "wreck."

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For week 30 you should have the lowest ranked game go up against the second lowest game.

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Hmmm...I've almost got things finalized. Just trying to put the finishing touches and make sure everything's just the way I want it. Hopefully, I'll have the Rivalry Week schedule up within the next hour.

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

That was back in what, week 3? 2? Lol.

This is a terrible argument because even though that was a few weeks ago, the games did not change at all, they are constants. The only thing that varies from week to week is the voters.

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LeonhartFour posted...
Hmmm...I've almost got things finalized. Just trying to put the finishing touches and make sure everything's just the way I want it. Hopefully, I'll have the Rivalry Week schedule up within the next hour.

Leonhart, it may be too late, but I just came up with another rivalry match idea.

Skies of Arcadia vs. The Wind Waker, battle of the "pirate" themed games!

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And the Week 10 schedule is live! I meticulously went over these matches to try to set up as many good rivalries as I could. Along with some same-series stuff, I tried to go along with the theme of same console classics facing off (even within same-series lines, like FFVII/FFVIII and OoT/MM). I did some 2-D vs. 3-D stuff in other places, too. I did my best to make sure that the most powerful games had an appropriate rival. That doesn't necessarily mean I set them up with a strong opponent because that wasn't always possible, but I wanted to make sure the rivalry fit. I didn't just want to set up a bunch of strong games facing each other for the heck of it with no common link, although that probably would've been easier. I wanted it to have a true "rivalry" feel.

So I hope you enjoy!

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The Real Truth posted...
I'm amazed people actually prefer TP to FFX.

Well they are two completely different games with very little similarities. I don't see where the confusion is at

It's because the game has Zelda in the title. The game is somehow stronger in these contests than Okami, which is obviously the better game. People just want to play as the dude with a green hat with a sword.

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It's because the game has Zelda in the title.

We're going to play this card when it's facing a Final Fantasy game?

C'mon now.

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Starting and ending rivalry week with bangs, I see.

...Also, while I'm assuming it's just a rivalry due to the first BGE contest, I find SOTN/GE - the battle of games the RNG absolutely hates - to be pretty funny.

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Janus5000 posted...
Starting and ending rivalry week with bangs, I see.

...Also, while I'm assuming it's just a rivalry due to the first BGE contest, I find SOTN/GE - the battle of games the RNG absolutely hates - to be pretty funny.

Also ironic is that they both share the same year of release.

And what do you know, there's The Real Truth, one of the biggest reasons why I regard Ocarina of Time to be the most overrated game of all time.

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In retrospect, I'm really kicking myself for voting for FFX against SMW2. Why, why, WHY???

Oh well, I suppose. I "renovated my favorite games list" and now SMW2 (plus SSBM) is higher up so...yeah.

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Yeah LMS, I hate you for voting for FFX too.

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On second thought, I'm perfectly happy with my FFX vote.

In fact, I'd vote for both Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2 over Ocarina of Time.

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But...you played Ocarina of Time!

Trust me, FFX isn't that good!

There's no getting through to this kid!

For the record, TP and FFX are both crap entries in a good series.

It's just that TP actually gets flak for it, so I have to vote against FFX.
Can't say which one I like less.

pjbasis posted...
For the record, TP and FFX are both crap entries in a good series.

It's just that TP actually gets flak for it, so I have to vote against FFX.
Can't say which one I like less.

FFX gets more flak from "professional" reviewers though. Lol those guys.

I maintain my stand though - I voted for Twilight Princess today, but I would vote for Final Fantasy X if it was against Ocarina of Time.

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There's no getting through to this kid!

Irony post.

From: LinkMarioSamus | #042
Also ironic is that they both share the same year of release.

But this is not ironic.

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Lots happened over the past two days, huh.... it's too bad Yoshi's Island lost. Or maybe it was good because it was the best possible result that can still please Leonhart. I do not want to face his wrath.

The matches for Week 10 really ARE good. Super Metroid vs. Final Fantasy VI.... I can't wait.

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