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Icehawk
07/22/11 7:01:00 PM
#151:


even with a fully upgraded machete, can't do the machete one at all. it's so damn hard

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GANON1025
07/22/11 7:06:00 PM
#152:


I almost got 2 min once, it's really hard and sort of put me off doing any of the challenges until after I beat the game. I did do that first dream challenge though

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Icehawk
07/22/11 7:08:00 PM
#153:


most of the challenges aren't too bad. I think the only ones I didn't get first prize on after a few upgrades are the machete and the dual pistols

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Coffee Ninja
07/22/11 7:56:00 PM
#154:


Got first on Army Carbine challenge

Got four seconds off of second on my first try

then got second

then the game trolls me with a score of :35 seconds (you need UNDER 35 for first) for like 5 rounds before finally I get a 33

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Coffee Ninja
07/22/11 8:16:00 PM
#155:


wow Fire Bellows one was easy

Fire Bellows are the worst weapson btw

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Icehawk
07/22/11 9:08:00 PM
#156:


I think it's a fun weapon, but yeah, it's not actually that effective, lawl.

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Icehawk
07/22/11 9:13:00 PM
#157:


side note, shield challenge was my favorite by far. mostly because after doing it like 15 times to get the 1st prize, I ended up being pretty damn good at countering. so if you are avoiding proving grounds, I do suggest you do that one.

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Chinballz
07/22/11 9:33:00 PM
#158:


If I had to wager a guess, I'd say MSM's low sales have to do with Ms. Splosion Man herself. I don't think many male gamers like playing as a female. A good indicator of that is 80% of Mass Effect 2 players use Dude Shep.

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Icehawk
07/22/11 10:00:00 PM
#159:


I don't think thats really related. I think when people have a choice they choose males more often, depending on the game anyway. If it's just playing as a female that turned people off, tomb raider never would've gotten big. The first Splosion Man was a Summer of Arcade title so thats probably part of it. It came out the same week as that Warhammer game, which ended up selling really well. MSM isn't really doing bad, 35,000 sold now which isn't bad for an arcade title, but yeah, I think over time it will be fine.

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DigitalIncision
07/22/11 11:13:00 PM
#160:


Alright I didn't buy Bastion like I said I was, but I did just try the demo. Gonna buy about 6000 points tomorrow and see what's worth getting. Haven't bought something since just before Stacked came out, which means I need that as well. What's essential, Icehawk?

Since I know you're going to say Outland, can you sell me on that? Because I played the demo and I usually love those types of games but the demo seemed really, really slow.

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transcience
07/22/11 11:15:00 PM
#161:


it's a sequel that doesn't really look a whole lot different. plus it never got the exposure that the first one did. makes sense to me that it wouldn't sell as well.

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Icehawk
07/23/11 12:39:00 PM
#162:


it's a sequel that doesn't really look a whole lot different. plus it never got the exposure that the first one did. makes sense to me that it wouldn't sell as well.

Yeah, being in Summer of Arcade def hurts it, but I feel like Ms Splosion Man does for Splosion Man the same stuff that Portal 2 did for Portal. Same unique concept, but it does a lot more with it. It is true though, while this formula works well in the retail world, people don't seem to get terribly excited for sequels in the XBLA space. Encourages new IPs at least

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Icehawk
07/23/11 12:42:00 PM
#163:


ALso, DIgi, here's my mini review I posted in my half year topic for Outland.


OUTLAND
+Very solid and fun platforming/exploration, but it's all taken to a completely different level thanks to the light and dark elements from ikaruga also being implemented.
+Amazing boss fights, best boss fights of 2011 so far for me, and probably top 3-5 this gen.
+Fantastic art style that pulls you into this world along with the music.
+Surprisingly fun combat with your limited arsenal of moves (sliding so fun).
+For all this content and for this well made game, just 10 bucks.
-Starts a little slow, maybe takes a bit too long to introduce the light/dark stuff.
-A story would have been nice.
-While exploring is fun, there could have been more rewards for it. Finding all the hidden items can get you 2x damage, but thats about it. You will also find a lot more coins than you actually need, as theres only a few upgrades to buy with them. More rewards for exploration would have been cool.


the main problem with it imo is definitely the slow start. Koolaid finally bought it, and he told me how he didn't like it tons to start, but it just gets better and better. Once they introduce more polarity elements, it's like a totally different game, and you haven't even experienced the epic boss fights yet, it's worth your money. especially for a mere 10 bucks.

Bastion and Ms Splosion Man are my other top DLable games of the year so far.

Other good ones, Trenched (Mech game + tower defense, comes together great, though maybe not enough content)

Hard Corps: Uprising (contra game with RPG elements, eliminates some of the frustration)

Dishwasher: Vampire Smile (super fast paced action game, can get a little repetitive, but it's really fun)

other than that I'd save some of the points for the rest of summer of arcade

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TeeVeeDinner
07/23/11 3:13:00 PM
#164:


Just beat Bastion. Liked it a lot! Although that last weapon was kind of stupid.

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The Mana Sword
07/23/11 3:18:00 PM
#165:


Gonna go out and get some dinner then buy Bastion when I come back so LOOK OUT.

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Icehawk
07/23/11 4:33:00 PM
#166:


lol, I liked the last weapon personally, it was a fun way to end the game.

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What choice did you make for the first one Teevee? I did the more compassionate one (trying to be vague), and man, that was an awesome moment, especially with the music.

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Icehawk
07/23/11 6:17:00 PM
#167:


KLEENEX ARE YOU PLAYING IT NOW?

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TeeVeeDinner
07/23/11 7:07:00 PM
#168:


I did the compassionate one as well. It was pretty cool!

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The Mana Sword
07/23/11 7:10:00 PM
#169:


I WAS JUST PLAYING IT FOR THE PAST TWO HOURS OR SO

It's decent. I'm not really super into it, but I don't hate it either.

P.S. Machete + Repeater

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Icehawk
07/23/11 9:36:00 PM
#170:


kleenex sux augh its awesome imo

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DigitalIncision
07/24/11 1:37:00 AM
#171:


I'm gonna trust you on this one and try Outland, Icehawk. Do not disappoint me!

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DigitalIncision
07/24/11 3:27:00 AM
#172:


Alright my haul tonight:

Stacking
Half Minute Hero
Outland
Backbreaker: Vengeance
Bastion

I have 800 points left and am interested in

Ms Splosion Man
Adventures of Shuggy

Objectively, MSM seems to be the better game. However, I still have Splosion Man and have yet to play through it ... or really, play it for more than five minutes. I'm not quite sure what to do.

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Icehawk
07/24/11 8:05:00 AM
#173:


I bought Shuggy, and was very disappointed personally, but maybe you'll like it more. MSM is one of the best games of the year so far imo

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TeeVeeDinner
07/24/11 9:54:00 AM
#174:


Tell me how Backbreaker is. A friends told me the full game was a fun time.

Really didn't get into HMH, the controls are so bad!

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DigitalIncision
07/24/11 4:08:00 PM
#175:


From: Icehawk | #173
I bought Shuggy, and was very disappointed personally, but maybe you'll like it more. MSM is one of the best games of the year so far imo


I'm all about platforming, and I'm loving Shuggy. I haven't even played Splosion Man, so MSM didn't make any sense to buy right now.

From: TeeVeeDinner | #174
Tell me how Backbreaker is. A friends told me the full game was a fun time.

Really didn't get into HMH, the controls are so bad!


I was actually laughing and talking to myself about what was happening when I was playing backbreaker. The full game that came out a couple years ago or last year, whenever it was, that wasn't worth sixty bucks. This though ... this is worth 15, easy. It's just damn fun. The tackles are the best.

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transience
07/24/11 4:10:00 PM
#176:


HMH so good. 360 controller so bad.

can't blame anyone for thinking the controls are bad if that's your only exposure. the game is just too fast for that controller.

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Icehawk
07/24/11 4:14:00 PM
#177:


HMH is a bit too repetitive for my liking, but it is still a solid game, it's not something I'd say is one of the best downloadable titles of the year, but it's worth a try.

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The Mana Sword
07/24/11 4:21:00 PM
#178:


icehawk sux augh its awesome imo

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DigitalIncision
07/24/11 4:22:00 PM
#179:


I enjoyed the twenty seconds I played of it so I bought it.

Anyway, I'm not gonna play any of these until I get tired of Backbreaker, I think. I doubt it's gonna happen any time soon.

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Icehawk
07/24/11 4:26:00 PM
#180:


icehawk sux augh its awesome imo

I GET THIS JOKE

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Icehawk
07/24/11 8:30:00 PM
#181:


Only a few days till "From Dust" now, hopefully we see some reviews pop up tomorrow. I know the reviewers have had this game for a while, considering how early that Quick Look went up.

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DigitalIncision
07/25/11 12:11:00 AM
#182:


I like the look of From Dust, but I won't be getting it for at least two weeks.

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Icehawk
07/25/11 2:05:00 PM
#183:


From Dust was supposed to launch on PC same day as 360, but now it's been pushed back about a month.

maybe MS just found out and as was like "wtf" >_>

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Icehawk
07/25/11 2:12:00 PM
#184:


Also, looks like a From Dust preview is up on Inside Xbox now

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GANON1025
07/25/11 4:08:00 PM
#185:


Damn, the cannon is awesome. I'm not a big fan of the last weapon you get, though.

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Icehawk
07/25/11 7:33:00 PM
#186:


I dunno why people hate it! I thought it was fun

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GANON1025
07/25/11 7:38:00 PM
#187:


It was alright. I guess you can't use it in new game + which is too bad

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Icehawk
07/25/11 10:15:00 PM
#188:


From Dust Inside Xbox video is pretty cool.

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Icehawk
07/26/11 6:56:00 AM
#189:


Looks like Edge magazine gives From Dust a 9/10, review will be published online at 5PM

This is a strategy game on the outside, but in its secret heart it's a lot more than that," Edge says. "Few games can offer this kind of scale and organic growth, few push you towards switching tactics with each rhythmic wash of the tides, and few are as convincing - or as gritty and robust - in their simulations."

It adds: "The payoff is a god game that's genuinely worthy of the genre's name: a prolonged and intricate rumination on the punishing forces of nature that makes you feel the duty - and the joys - that great power brings with it."

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transience
07/26/11 7:06:00 AM
#190:


a 9 from Edge is pretty huge. From Dust will obviously review well.

finally got back to HMH -- about to try and power through the rest of the game. this game gets so good at the end.

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Icehawk
07/26/11 9:06:00 AM
#191:


whats good about the end? I've been flying a dragon around which has been pretty neat, but the game just stays "pretty good", never really getting that good for me. I wish there were more levels like the last one in the first continent. Quest 20 I think.

and yeah From Dust is one of those games reviewers will eat up for sure.

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transience
07/26/11 9:12:00 AM
#192:


you never went down the other path. that one is pretty cool, and then hero 300 of course.

but overall, the end has a greater variety of options and the intensity gets cranked up a good bit. getting to level 60-70 with 8 allies is pretty fun. the one downside about the xbla version is that it gets super repetitive due to it lacking the other modes. oh well.

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Icehawk
07/26/11 9:20:00 AM
#193:



but overall, the end has a greater variety of options and the intensity gets cranked up a good bit. getting to level 60-70 with 8 allies is pretty fun. the one downside about the xbla version is that it gets super repetitive due to it lacking the other modes. oh well.


Yeah, when I was looking at reviews of the PSP version, all the diff modes was part of what I thought was really cool, those being cut is pretty confusing honestly.

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Icehawk
07/26/11 10:09:00 AM
#194:


Reviews are coming in.

EUrogamer: 9/10
Worthplaying: 8.5/10
Gametrailers: 7.8
Gamespot: 7.5
Destructoid: 5.5/10 (Jim Sterling HEY TRANNY WAS RIGHT)

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The Mana Sword
07/26/11 10:12:00 AM
#195:


Sounds like it's almost as bad as Bastion.

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Icehawk
07/26/11 10:13:00 AM
#196:


im gonna kill you kleenex.

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The Mana Sword
07/26/11 10:15:00 AM
#197:


:(

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Icehawk
07/26/11 10:18:00 AM
#198:


apparently the controls are a little awkward, and guiding your tribe is annoying, those seem to be the main problems. so the PC version might end up a bit better. I guess I'll try the demo, but as of right now I feel kind of 50-50 on this one

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transience
07/26/11 10:42:00 AM
#199:


told ya

strategy games are always better on PC

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Icehawk
07/26/11 11:10:00 AM
#200:


Pfft!

more reviews coming in

IGN: 8.5
XBLAFans: Try It (basically said, if you think you'll like it, you will, if you don't think you will like it, you won't)

surprisingly, no joystiq yet

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