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sephsblade
08/29/11 3:00:00 AM
#351:


Does anyone know if generic npcs can add affinity links as well? I've been ignoring them as too much hassle.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
08/29/11 7:04:00 AM
#352:


Does anyone know if generic npcs can add affinity links as well? I've been ignoring them as too much hassle.

Not directly, but you'll without doubt miss a lot if you don't talk to them all, and not just once but twice each. A huge amount of crucial information comes from the generics, since named NPCs usually talk about themselves rather than give you tips.

It really is RPG 101 though: Talk to everyone, until they repeat themselves, and do it again after every major plot development.

Also, I've never gotten any spoilers from NPCs so that's just bullcrap(or said by people who don't see obvious plot twists coming until they happen). There's a lot of interesting story-related info though, such as finding out that SPOILERS UP TO THE EVENTS ON PRISON ISLAND SPOILERS




lalalalalalalalalalalalala
You killed Desiree's father. He was Xord.
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END SPOILERS

Seriously, GameFAQs needs spoiler tags.

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 7:10:00 AM
#353:


^I got that too, pretty cool offhand revelation.

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SHINE GET 64
08/29/11 9:08:00 AM
#354:


oh jeeze why did I put off finishing the Central Pit for 3 days


that entire sequence events


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sephsblade
08/29/11 9:29:00 AM
#355:


god you spoiled everyone

you monster

monster

(also Shulk during a fight in Sword Valley STOP BEING A MORON)

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LeonhartFour
08/29/11 10:37:00 AM
#356:


Oh cool, that spoiler is right at the bottom of my screen when I'm at the very top of the page.

Thankfully, I have no idea what that means and by the time I actually play the game, I'll forget I ever read that.

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 10:43:00 AM
#357:


Is that really a spoiler though? It's something you wouldn't find out if you don't pay attention to NPCs.

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LeonhartFour
08/29/11 10:44:00 AM
#358:


*shrugs*

It seems like a spoiler to me, but again, I've never played it!

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Takfloyd_mkII__
08/29/11 11:35:00 AM
#359:


Does anyone know whether there's a "right" choice to any of the multiple path sidequests? Like the one with King Squeeze, the two fighting brothers, the soldiers' failure love triangle, etc.

I'm always worried I'm losing out on something by making a wrong choice. Same regarding who to invite to Colony 6.

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neonreaper
08/29/11 11:43:00 AM
#360:


*skims through topic*

*spoiler where the warning is tucked away*

d'oh

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transience
08/29/11 11:49:00 AM
#361:


that's such a non-spoiler that I'm past it and don't even know what it means

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Takfloyd_mkII__
08/29/11 12:33:00 PM
#362:


Is the "spoiler" in question what I posted about Desiree's father? Because that's a very very small and insignificant spoiler really.

I'm avoiding the last few posts in case it's not the spoiler in question.

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SHINE GET 64
08/29/11 12:35:00 PM
#363:


I barely remember who Desiree even is. Was that the slut in Colony 9 that broke her watch on purpose so she could talk to Shulk about fixing it

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BoshStrikesBack
08/29/11 1:09:00 PM
#364:


Any update on how well this game is selling overseas? Still awaiting an NA release!

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sephsblade
08/29/11 1:16:00 PM
#365:


Debuted at 3rd in the UK, 5th and 8th in Germany (CCpro bundle), 1st and 3rd France. I'd imagine it's not doing too badly.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/29/11 1:19:00 PM
#366:


So what's NoA's excuse going to be this time, I wonder? "At least we're not as bad as Capcom"?

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sephsblade
08/29/11 1:20:00 PM
#367:


americans are confused by british accents


all they have to do is point to the people who had no idea what Ragnar was saying in DQIV

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Takfloyd_mkII__
08/29/11 1:28:00 PM
#368:


British accents? What British accents?

Oh, that's right, some people actually play with the dub, which is not even lip-synced. Sucks to be them!

Seriously though, they'll release it eventually. It's selling out over here, and it'll only do better in the states.

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 1:29:00 PM
#369:


So do you just not even understand what they're saying during battles?

Tranny seems to hate the battle banter but I really like it, it's nice to hear everyone encouraging each other.

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SHINE GET 64
08/29/11 1:32:00 PM
#370:


yeah I love the british voices. Especially their post-battle conversations


Reyn: Sharla! Did you see that? Did you see me?
Sharla: Oh.....I......wasn't really paying attention.
Reyn: Awww that's not fair!

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transience
08/29/11 1:37:00 PM
#371:


I got over it when I got Reyn out of the party. now it's just that awful Sharla/Dunban commentary about giving up the sword that's bugging me.

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 1:39:00 PM
#372:


The sixth party member you get has the best battle quotes of all of them (not sure if it could be considered a spoiler).

I actually grew to appreciate Reyn Time.

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sephsblade
08/29/11 2:35:00 PM
#373:


6 also has some of the best quest dialogue

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GuessMyUserName
08/29/11 3:33:00 PM
#374:


6 has fantastic dialogue period

but I haven't used 6 in my party as much as I would have liked. just too adamant on having a Shulk for necessity, an Aggro drawer (Dunban > Reyn), and medic Sharla

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transience
08/29/11 3:34:00 PM
#375:


I need a new healer so I don't have to use Sharla

it really sucks that you can't use four guys. there's four main builds in this game and you can only run three.

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htaeD
08/29/11 3:37:00 PM
#376:


I dont know about you but playing as Melia is rather fun

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transience
08/29/11 3:39:00 PM
#377:


I enjoyed that much more than I thought I would. still, Shulk or bust thanks to Monado

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dragon22391
08/29/11 4:09:00 PM
#378:


Get over needing a healer, tran! I've been running shill/reyn/dunban ever since I got them all and haven't had any prOblems, even against the boss that killed you!

Also Reyn is a wonderful character and I thoroughly enjoy his voice and his quotes. He's the most lovable lovable-oaf type I've ever seen.

Also xfd at listening to it in japanese

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KJH
08/29/11 4:11:00 PM
#379:


Man, Shulk's not that necessary. Pretty much none of them are if you use them right!

Also, people hating on Reyn's british dubs, not cool. Reyn's awesome.

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 4:20:00 PM
#380:


I'll post this again: http://p.twimg.com/AXcyKlDCIAEd-x3.png:large

And yeah I rotate all the time and no one is really necessary. But I haven't gotten to Mechanis yet, but Shulk is necessary over there.

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SHINE GET 64
08/29/11 4:20:00 PM
#381:


yeah can you drop Shulk from your party completely? After getting Dunban I sort of just want to drop him in Shulk's spot and play as him

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transience
08/29/11 4:25:00 PM
#382:


you're like 5 levels over me, numbers! I'm routinely fighting monsters on a higher level than me

also you haven't been to the boss that killed me yet!

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transience
08/29/11 4:28:00 PM
#383:


(though I have considered dropping Sharla for Reyn)

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GuessMyUserName
08/29/11 4:33:00 PM
#384:


From: Theon_Greyjoy | Posted: 8/29/2011 7:20:32 PM | #380
But I haven't gotten to Mechanis yet, but Shulk is necessary over there.


not really

on Mechonis you can get good Mechon weapons for every character, so they can damage Mechons without the use of Enchant

by "necessity" I mostly refer to his Shield / Speed talents to prevent visions

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sephsblade
08/29/11 5:06:00 PM
#385:


the hardest boss is the chain attack tutorial boss when you only skim read the instructions imo

I really wish the Monado wasn't as good as it is, or yeah, a 4th slot was available. Melia's free topple is pretty great but it's hard to want to take her over Shulk, and a lack of good healing means she can't replace Sharla. And in additiion, AI is terrible, liking to stay far away where her buffs do absolutely no good.

Meanwhile Sharla prefers charging up to get into shooting range and standing underneath giant spider mech feet

sharla no-one cares if you do damage seriously move away

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transcience
08/29/11 5:10:00 PM
#386:


the game already crawls with 3 when there's too much action on the screen. I'd hate to see what would happen if we added a fourth.

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sephsblade
08/29/11 5:15:00 PM
#387:


use dolphin imo


I realise calling any game on the wii "technically impressive" is laughable, but it is impressive how much draw distance they managed to pull out of the thing, and the number of monsters on screen etc. There's at least one point where you can see a quest item from like halfway across the zone.

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GuessMyUserName
08/29/11 5:16:00 PM
#388:


I would totally love a 4th slot, I'm just seriously itching to fit another person in to join my regular party

and yeah, the party's AI is terrible, like nobody actually uses their movies to get maximum effectiveness out of them - like using up topple/daze moves when enemies aren't in break/topple, or using Back Slash moves while you're facing right towards the enemy. Even if they have a chance to use a move well, they often don't use it.

Multiplayer support would be so cool, like I got my brother to start his file the other day, and the whole time I was thinking how awesome it would be if a second player was controlling another character - especially with the whole break/topple thing. And other players getting agro and stuff, there's just so much potential there.

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sephsblade
08/29/11 5:18:00 PM
#389:


I'm pretty sure they already did that! It was called 'Everquest'!

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transience
08/29/11 5:24:00 PM
#390:


it'd be impossible to have two attack meters on-screen. the screen is cluttered as hell with just one.

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GuessMyUserName
08/29/11 5:26:00 PM
#391:


ha yeah that's true

they'd have to do something about that, though I guess there'd be nothing wrong with just shrinking the thing a ton

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SHINE GET 64
08/29/11 5:28:00 PM
#392:


redesign it with character faces on the bottom, P1 attack bar on the left and P2 attack bar on the right and they're both arranged vertically

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transience
08/29/11 5:35:00 PM
#393:


what about having two characters on-screen with different cameras? split-screen?

that'll work wonders

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 5:35:00 PM
#394:


I meant to say Shulk may be necessary on Mechanis. Man I've been f***ing up a lot today.

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transience
08/29/11 5:42:00 PM
#395:


I like how the game just gives you anti-mechon weapons the second you step onto Mechanis after all the hype about only the Monado being able to damage mechons. convenient.

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KJH
08/29/11 6:16:00 PM
#396:


I'd say don't control Shulk much, his AI handles himself better than most of the other AI handle themselves. Unless you abuse his monado arts, I guess, which he'll do on his own sometimes still.

But you'll never see enough Berserker Magnum Charge Sword Drive from Reyn! Or anything remotely competent from Melia. Or the right use of Dunban at all with his auras and gale slash comboing.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
08/29/11 8:05:00 PM
#397:


What's with all the people arguing over party "setups" like it's some permanent thing? I mean, do you guys like... not rotate party members around so you get to see all the flavours of the battle system? Not to mention if you use the same party all the time you miss out on pretty much all the cool interactions, both in battle and during quests, and you also don't get affinity...

That just seems like a completely stupid way to play the game. I change combinations like, every five minutes, usually to make a party that fits the moment. If I'm in Colony 6 I'll use Sharla and if I'm in Alcamoth I'll use Melia, and so on, so that I am more likely to get extra dialogue in quest conversations and stuff like that. And if I'm fighting someone with a connection to certain party members, no way am I not going to use those members in the battle.

So do you just not even understand what they're saying during battles?

Tranny seems to hate the battle banter but I really like it, it's nice to hear everyone encouraging each other.


Actually, I know enough Japanese to understand at least 50% of what they're saying. But I always enjoy media in their original language regardless. Dubbing is a stupid practice any way you look at it.


PS: I've played at a pretty reasonable pace and now I'm finally getting close to the finale at 130 hours clocked. The reviewers calling this a 40 or 60-hour game must have been doing it very wrong. Well, I guess it's their job to actually beat the game within the deadline so they probably rushed it, but man what an underestimate.

Also this is a sure top 10 game ever for me, and I've played a lot of games. Best game since Super Mario Galaxy!

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Theon_Greyjoy
08/29/11 8:16:00 PM
#398:


Dubbing is a stupid practice any way you look at it.

The way I look at it it's not.

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GuessMyUserName
08/29/11 11:39:00 PM
#399:


holy **** at what I just happened

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Uglyface2
08/29/11 11:54:00 PM
#400:


Is there a chance of this coming to another console? I realize it just hit the Wii, but I've got no room to put another console so I could play this.
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