-Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet. -This is a contest to determine which character is the most *powerful*. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote. -BOLD YOUR VOTE. Unbolded votes will NOT be counted. -Rallying is allowed. Alts are not. -Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a *featureless* terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below). -Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started. -Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media. -Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses) -You don't have to justify your vote, but it helps. If you feel like you can add something to the debate, go right ahead! -Seriously, BOLD THE VOTE. So important it bears repeating. -Bracket Link, for viewing past results and future matches: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?&tid=408528&tclass=
Past Results: Urza Planeswalker has finally met his match, and for once, antivotes did not matter. Through sheer power, Pegasus Seiya advances to Round 4. Votals: 15-0
(8) The Host N/A From the web serial Curtains Close, The Host is an extremely powerful entity who created the story of the serial, and the multiverse contained within. He is omnipotent and omniscient, able to perceive everything that has happened, is happening, or will happen unless he intentionally restrains his sight, with no ill effects. He is extremely durable as well, ingesting large quantities of raw entropy without suffering any negative side effects, and has good enough reflexes to will time to stop on command in reaction to any attack. His main weapon is his ability to twist reality to his whims, derived from his connection to the story and its fourth wall (being aware of the fact that he is part of a fiction and addressing the readers directly time and again), which he uses not only to defeat, but also humiliate his foes (in a fight with another reality warper, who went on to become the God of a timeline granted to him, he used a fraction of his powers to spawn infinite numbers of clones, each as powerful as the original, teleport to the beginning of time to foil an attempt at assassinating him before the plan was even fully conceived, perfectly freeze time, redirect a special attack designed specifically to kill him, and land a variety of nonlethal hits using circus tricks and comical sound effects). His control over reality is so mighty that, with an utterance of a simple proverb in the right language, reality begun to unravel itself. When assuming a corporeal form, The Host is never seen without his trademark bladed cane, which currently stores the essences of several Concepts (such as Silence, Disease, and Despair). He is confident, arrogant, whimsical, and above all, extremely bitter and disillusioned about his lot in life, resigned to engage in the most ridiculous of pranks or the vilest tortures to satisfy the whims of The Audience.
(3) GANON1025 N/A From Board 8's Random Spell Tournament, GANON1025 is a powerful spellcaster, armed with a wide array of strange spells. His spells are Call Drunken Priest, Incantation of Conjure Barbs, Dexterity Deflection, Crafter's Blast of Earth, Unknowable Hex of Fortification and Viciousness, Rains of Force and the Elemental Sun of Nothing. This spell's power has been described as everything between a powerful archaic spell able to rend any planet near it to a literal sun of nothing - that is, a spell that has no effect! Like all of GANON's other spells, its effects vary wildly depending on his matchup (though they always keep in line with their names), to the point voter discretion and consideration is advised when determining their usefulness.
Host's Note: As a fictional character and not the poster of the same name, RST GANON has no metafictional knowledge. He comes into all battles unaware of the opponents he shall face, though he does know that he is involved in a gauntlet of deadly battles. He has also taken Vriska Serket's ability to Steal Luck and Majin Buu's Dimension Scream.
Argument in favor of The Host, courtesy of Pirateking:
According to kan the host summons a champion somewhat better than his opponent. So he just summons this guy:
Or Dimentio from super paper mario lol.
Second argument in favor of The Host:
Ahem. Let's go over the reasons why The Host is unlikely to job here quickly.
A) If you think GANON can hurt him he will speedblitz. The Host lives to entertain, but for that you need to live first, and he sort of appreciates being the master of everything, regardless of it meaning he's responsible for every sin and atrocity ever.
B) If you think GANON can't hurt him, consider why The Host would not forfeit the match:
I) GANON's path of advancement is a lock. If he wins here Seiya will pulverize him. There is no ability he can steal from The Host that will make him powerful enough to win because the reality warping isn't poachable and Seiya is massively faster than light and can gib him by staring. The Host can do better than that, considering him advancing past Seiya is very likely, if not a lock as a matter of fact.
II) GANON is a contest troll in the end, and so is The Host. Do you guys *really* think a career entertainer would tolerate someone trying to take over his turf? The Host is more likely to go into slasher mode and start chucking an endless barrage of enemies at GANON than he is to just tip his hat and give up.
III) Forfeits are boring. Who here is thrilled by mercies? Nobody, that's who. A close match that ends with a SHOCKING TWIST is an infinitely more satisfying one and hey, The Host knows how to arrange for that. GANON winning is the expected result after all, and The Host likes chucking curveballs.
Ok, Majin Buu. Would (IRL) win this division going away.
This is done by voting by idiots though, and so we have this match up.
The Host
I am confused how this is even a debate. Why would the host choose to job here? It makes no sense, it does not heighten the story in anyway in his eyes. And Ganon can't beat him unless he jobs, lacking the means to do so.
You see the Host legitmately has the power to win this contest, and while he'd be a more exciting winner than a lot of the people left in this bracket, It's just not going to be as entertaining as watching the fanboys and people who take this too seriously rage when GANON makes his matches closer than they should be with his own fanboy logic and inherent ability to break gamefaqs contests. GANON.
From: BlackMetalex | #013 You see the Host legitmately has the power to win this contest, and while he'd be a more exciting winner than a lot of the people left in this bracket, It's just not going to be as entertaining as watching the fanboys and people who take this too seriously rage when GANON makes his matches closer than they should be with his own fanboy logic and inherent ability to break gamefaqs contests. GANON.
Problem: GANON is losing next round. He's facing an opponent who will speedblitz him, who will regenerate from the Sun of Nothing, and who will not be hurt by it afterward. So...yeah. If this is the logic you're voting on, it's faulty because GANON's path is set.
GANON can steal all the luck he needs to win next round tbqh
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #015 Problem: GANON is losing next round. He's facing an opponent who will speedblitz him, who will regenerate from the Sun of Nothing, and who will not be hurt by it afterward. So...yeah. If this is the logic you're voting on, it's faulty because GANON's path is set.
I can come up with a method for GANON to beat Seiya. He just has to poach the stupid cane.
GANON
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From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #017 I can come up with a method for GANON to beat Seiya. He just has to poach the stupid cane.
GANON
Said Cane powerscales. See for example how The Host could use a building-busting attack to hurt Shim, when Triela, the original user of silence, was a craptastic superhuman.
Seiya can't regenerate from the Sun if it reduces his will to nothing! And even if it's in his personality to speedblitz, that sure didn't stop him from winning his match against Buu. Even if he should stand no chance, you can't deny that he's going to at least get a good amount of votes.
If the Host won here I don't see anyone posing much of a threat to him.
From: KanzarisKelshen | #018 Said Cane powerscales. See for example how The Host could use a building-busting attack to hurt Shim, when Triela, the original user of silence, was a craptastic superhuman.
Which means that it would beat Seiya rather trivially, especially when combined with ESoN.
From: BlackMetalex | #020 Seiya can't regenerate from the Sun if it reduces his will to nothing! And even if it's in his personality to speedblitz, that sure didn't stop him from winning his match against Buu. Even if he should stand no chance, you can't deny that he's going to at least get a good amount of votes.
If the Host won here I don't see anyone posing much of a threat to him.
You must not be seeing very far forward, let me just say that much. >_>
From: KanzarisKelshen | #018 Said Cane powerscales. See for example how The Host could use a building-busting attack to hurt Shim, when Triela, the original user of silence, was a craptastic superhuman.
That's fine because GANON's powers are dependent on interpretation. Therefore any power level becomes internally consistent.
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From: Regaro_Ukiera | #021 Which means that it would beat Seiya rather trivially, especially when combined with ESoN.
No, it means that the Cane would work at GANON's power level, which is infinitely lower than The Host's. Unless you want to argue that GANON is as strong as the host in which case your vote is direct fanboy logic and DQable.
From: Sceptilesolarbeam | #024 That's fine because GANON's powers are dependent on interpretation. Therefore any power level becomes internally consistent.
Problem: his power level was set on Round 1. You're using THAT power level.
From: GANON1025 | #023 I mean Dimension Scream can destroy universes and it produces a shield strong enough to easily stop Super Vegito so what's this Seyia got heh
The ability to tank universe destroying attacks, the ability to bypass stronger shields, and a speed advantage so huge RST GANON literally can't start casting?
From: BlackMetalex | #020 Seiya can't regenerate from the Sun if it reduces his will to nothing! And even if it's in his personality to speedblitz, that sure didn't stop him from winning his match against Buu. Even if he should stand no chance, you can't deny that he's going to at least get a good amount of votes.
If the Host won here I don't see anyone posing much of a threat to him.
B8=******* did.
Sarda, in an Everything you can do I can do better match.
From: GANON1025 | #029 And this is real universe destroying too, not some Billious Slick "just killing a big frog" thing
Hey, Red Miles is genuinely anti-universe, even if it did take on the form of killing Bilious Slick >_>
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From: GANON1025 | #023 I mean Dimension Scream can destroy universes and it produces a shield strong enough to easily stop Super Vegito so what's this Seyia got heh
Uh, you only have the ability, not the power. Let's just say you and Buuhan are on slightly different levels.
That is the same reason when Gotenks and SuperBuu used it they created a wormhole, when Buuhan used it, the Universe was about to unravel.
You have the strength of farmer with shotguy, IE 5. Your practical use would be like creating a peep hole anywhere you are to anywhere you wanted.
OK, this is dumb. change to The Host. These two characters never should have been in this contest, and I understand the idea of voting GANON now so that he loses to Seiya, eliminating both. Not that I'm accusing anyone here of voting GANON solely for that reason. But I really think The Host has it, for better or worse.
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From: GANON1025 | #035 OK, this is dumb. change to The Host. These two characters never should have been in this contest, and I understand the idea of voting GANON now so that he loses to Seiya, eliminating both. Not that I'm accusing anyone here of voting GANON solely for that reason. But I really think The Host has it, for better or worse.
you're not allowed to vote in matches with "yourself" in them anyway!
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http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously?