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MartinFF7
12/21/11 6:33:00 PM
#151:


Should have Kane destroy Cena to fake an injury angle which keeps their golden goose on the shelf until after the EC PPV

then you can have Cena squashing everybody on Raw & SD in very safe and brief matches for the weeks leading up to Wrestlemania

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:33:00 PM
#152:


6 weeks worth of Cena vs. Slater

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XIII_rocks
12/21/11 6:33:00 PM
#153:


The promos and potential for a Jericho/Punk feud are off-the-chart amazing.

Legitimately wouldn't know who to root for either.

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:35:00 PM
#154:


"CM Punk, you think you're the savior of wrestling, the "internet darling" who is here to eradicate the status quo and reshape WWE in his image? I INVENTED THAT."

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/21/11 6:35:00 PM
#155:


A Cena vs Slater feud would be incredible.

Even if it were just a series of matches in which Cena beats Slater decidedly, and Slater would still come out and say "Hey Cena, you ain't proved nothin'! I'm still the One Man Rock Band and the MAN to beat in this company! And then when I beat you, they'll put ME in the main event at Wrestlemania!"

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Lopen
12/21/11 6:35:00 PM
#156:


I think Kane feuding with Cena is like "all our faces are occupied and we can't have Kane feud with Henry because we want him to be a heel this time. Oh hey Cena's free." I've seen better Tombooking than that...! Either that or it's just going to be like, Kane ignores Cena from now on and just wanted the wristband, which be amusing character development for Kane if nothing else.

Like Biscuit's approach could work but I don't think it'll go that way

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FFDragon
12/21/11 6:36:00 PM
#157:


JaKyL25 posted...
6 weeks worth of Cena vs. Slater

Heathulu would intentionally injury Cena so he could replace him at Wrestlemania.

SLATER VS ROCK

ONE MAN ROCK BAND VS PEOPLE'S CHAMP

TONGUES TO ASSES

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...wait

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Haguile
12/21/11 6:37:00 PM
#158:


You know, considering how WWE's actual push for Ryder surpassed anything we could have done, I'm just going to wait and see what they have in store for him.

I think they are gonna Cena him up and have him "overcome the odds" of progressively stronger opponents. I see them making Brodus into a monster just to have Ryder go over him in a "HE OVERCAME THE ODDS" moment. He's an underdog champ now so that works.

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Haguile
12/21/11 6:38:00 PM
#159:


Slater vs Cena for 6 weeks straight would be amazing.

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XIII_rocks
12/21/11 6:39:00 PM
#160:


From: JaKyL25 | #154
"CM Punk, you think you're the savior of wrestling, the "internet darling" who is here to eradicate the status quo and reshape WWE in his image? I INVENTED THAT."


Jericho with some kind of progenitor gimmick would be amazing. Him trying to take credit for this "revolution" would be amazing. In fact I'm glad he's returning on a random RAW rather than the rumble. He can heel it up on Raw if needs be, rather than returning at the Rumble and getting a huge face pop (like Edge).

Not that I'm against a face Jericho vs. face Punk feud but I imagine they'll want to keep Punk's momentum or something.

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Haguile
12/21/11 6:40:00 PM
#161:


Jericho's new gimmick when he returns should be "hipster." Like Punk does a move and he'd be like "I USED THAT MOVE BEFORE IT WAS COOL" and he would challenge people to incredibly obscure match stipulations.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/21/11 6:41:00 PM
#162:


From: Haguile | #161
Jericho's new gimmick when he returns should be "hipster." Like Punk does a move and he'd be like "I USED THAT MOVE BEFORE IT WAS COOL" and he would challenge people to incredibly obscure match stipulations.


Dutchess of Queensbury Match!

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:42:00 PM
#163:


And for what it's worth, the only salient theories about the ItBegins2012 videos I've seen have done a very good job explaining how it could be Jericho, like, there's actually logic that fits it being Jericho contained within the "storyline" of the videos.

The only logic I've seen for every other possibility is "Well, it could be them because they're available to make a big return."

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/21/11 6:44:00 PM
#164:


Then perhaps you should read this highly intelligent article from the renowned Wrestlezone.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/246979-the-cashbox-three-reasons-why-1212-wont-be-jericho

Truly, this Chris Cash must know better than everyone else.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/21/11 6:45:00 PM
#165:


it's sting you guys

it's really him this time i swear

come on guys it's him i promise

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XIII_rocks
12/21/11 6:46:00 PM
#166:


From: Haguile | #161
Jericho's new gimmick when he returns should be "hipster." Like Punk does a move and he'd be like "I USED THAT MOVE BEFORE IT WAS COOL" and he would challenge people to incredibly obscure match stipulations.




Skinny jeans ring attire, imo.

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:46:00 PM
#167:


I saw a baseball bat and a scorpion!

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Viktor Vaughn
12/21/11 6:47:00 PM
#168:


illustrious wrestling news organization wrestlezone dot com

home of such prestigious prograps editorial luminaries as MARK MADDEN and DISCO INFERNO

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Panthera
12/21/11 6:48:00 PM
#169:


From: Lopen | #156
I think Kane feuding with Cena is like "all our faces are occupied and we can't have Kane feud with Henry because we want him to be a heel this time. Oh hey Cena's free." I've seen better Tombooking than that...! Either that or it's just going to be like, Kane ignores Cena from now on and just wanted the wristband, which be amusing character development for Kane if nothing else.

Like Biscuit's approach could work but I don't think it'll go that way


Well they laid the ground work for Kane moving on with Cena delivering perhaps the most nonsensical line of the entire year, the "if last week was an accident that's totally cool!" thing <_< Kane just has to ignore him from now on and Cena will assume the chokeslam was just an overly enthusiastic hug and the second beating was just self defense he brought on himself by assaulting the guy who clearly just wanted to come into the ring and shake his hand.

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:48:00 PM
#170:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #164
Then perhaps you should read this highly intelligent article from the renowned Wrestlezone.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/246979-the-cashbox-three-reasons-why-1212-wont-be-jericho

Truly, this Chris Cash must know better than everyone else.


ROFLMAO

"It can't be Chris Jericho because it's obviously Chris Jericho so now we're all expecting it and Vince hates it when we're one step ahead" basically.

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Viktor Vaughn
12/21/11 6:50:00 PM
#171:


From: JaKyL25 | #170
ROFLMAO

"It can't be Chris Jericho because it's obviously Chris Jericho so now we're all expecting it and Vince hates it when we're one step ahead" basically.


vince is planning his spur of the moment temper tantrums in advance now guys!!!!

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 6:52:00 PM
#172:


From: Panthera | #169
Well they laid the ground work for Kane moving on with Cena delivering perhaps the most nonsensical line of the entire year, the "if last week was an accident that's totally cool!" thing <_< Kane just has to ignore him from now on and Cena will assume the chokeslam was just an overly enthusiastic hug and the second beating was just self defense he brought on himself by assaulting the guy who clearly just wanted to come into the ring and shake his hand.


It's like I said in the chat (I think): under the red lights, under two masks, still seeing light trails from his entrance flames, Kane obviously thought he was chokeslamming Darren Young.

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KommunistKoala
12/21/11 6:52:00 PM
#173:


You're all forgetting Slater is the ONE MAN SOUTHERN ROCK BAND!

and you all call yourselves Heath Slater fans

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TheRock1525
12/21/11 6:53:00 PM
#174:


I hope Kane keeps the second mask.

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XIII_rocks
12/21/11 6:55:00 PM
#175:


Yeah I freaking love the second mask. Iron Monger Kane is amazing.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/21/11 6:57:00 PM
#176:


And when it isn't Jericho, TNA will bring him in with the same kind of promos and try to capitalize on the hype!

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Tom Bombadil
12/21/11 7:10:00 PM
#177:


From: JaKyL25 | Posted: 12/21/2011 8:33:43 PM | #152
6 weeks worth of Cena vs. Slater

I would be pretty dang okay with this

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Lopen
12/21/11 7:11:00 PM
#178:


Yeah that article is tripe because Undertaker's return last year exists, but further the whole premise is wrong because it's not even obviously Jericho. That's totally an internet phenomenon. They're clearly trying to make it seem like Undertaker.

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JaKyL25
12/21/11 8:09:00 PM
#179:


Well, it's only "trying to seem like Undertaker" in the sense that it's an obtuse spooky video proclaiming the return of someone coming back to right some wrongs.

Undertaker kinda falls apart as a theory the more you try to analyze the content of the videos though.

That's not to say that it WON'T be Undertaker. Just that it doesn't point to him beyond an extremely shallow viewing of the videos.

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TimJab
12/21/11 8:32:00 PM
#180:


From: Lopen | #156
I've seen better Tombooking than that...!


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JaKyL25
12/22/11 7:05:00 AM
#181:


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Cross-company mingling! Vince isn't gonna be happy!

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muddersmilk
12/22/11 7:55:00 AM
#182:


Maybe Jericho is bringing Bubba and Joe with him!

Hey I can dream...

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DeathChicken
12/22/11 7:58:00 AM
#183:


Bubba's either sucking in his gut there, or he's gotten amazingly in shape

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KJH
12/22/11 8:15:00 AM
#184:


You know, I could see Daniel Bryan not doing TOO bad with his title run. Pre-MitB, Del Rio had no business in the title stuff really either, but even now he's more of a credible threat than Miz is, though he's no match for Punk/Cena.

Bryan's got Big Show to maybe worry about, but given the possibility of a heel turn they could go 180 on that and let Big Show let Bryan keep the title for a while to keep him face. Henry's injured, so not much of a chance of him taking the title back until he's better. Kane's in monster mode and wants to smash Cena, doubt he bothers for a title run yet. Rhodes and Wade aren't any stretch for Bryan to be able to beat.

...Mainly leaves Orton, but Wade seems to be able to keep him busy. And Big Show if he just decides he does want to go monster heel in place of Henry, instead of just teasing it but showing off MORAL CHARACTER by denying it.

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Bidoofaphilia
12/22/11 8:20:00 AM
#185:


DeathChicken posted...
Bubba's either sucking in his gut there, or he's gotten amazingly in shape

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edwardsdv
12/22/11 8:30:00 AM
#186:


From: XIII_rocks | #149
People would pay to see Rock/Cena
They would go home talking about Jericho/Punk


I would be extremely nervous about two guys shaking off the ring rust in the same event to be honest. Not to mention the avarage age in both matches then approaches like 40. What is this, WCW? During your supposed "Youth Movement?"

@Haguile

I think Ryder's character needs evolution to be a good champion character. Whether he evolves with the title or gets squashed and goes back to the puruser role in a less goofy manner. You mention one method but I almost feel brodus squashing him so he has months to try and overcome would be better. In a Green Ant kind of way.

As that Grantland article says, Ryder is as much a product of people dissatisfied with WWE as anything else, so this is really make or break time and with no evolution its gonna be break. People are fickle, especially now that he's "made it". Especially since hes no ring general and is kind of limited in value strictly IN the ring. If he has a kofi run his days on the main show are numbered.

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edwardsdv
12/22/11 8:38:00 AM
#187:


From: KJH | #184
You know, I could see Daniel Bryan not doing TOO bad with his title run. Pre-MitB, Del Rio had no business in the title stuff really either, but even now he's more of a credible threat than Miz is, though he's no match for Punk/Cena.

Bryan's got Big Show to maybe worry about, but given the possibility of a heel turn they could go 180 on that and let Big Show let Bryan keep the title for a while to keep him face. Henry's injured, so not much of a chance of him taking the title back until he's better. Kane's in monster mode and wants to smash Cena, doubt he bothers for a title run yet. Rhodes and Wade aren't any stretch for Bryan to be able to beat.

...Mainly leaves Orton, but Wade seems to be able to keep him busy. And Big Show if he just decides he does want to go monster heel in place of Henry, instead of just teasing it but showing off MORAL CHARACTER by denying it.


Ugh Del Rio is just such a mess. Hes a bad example for this because in a world where Edge doesnt retire the next day, he SHOULD have been the champ exiting Mania 27. As such, he's a weird example for the briefcase.

And while its not a STRETCH, Cody did JUST beat Bryan completely cleanly. Which means kayfabe, Cody is the stronger of the two champs. This is not good.

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Coffee Ninja
12/22/11 8:42:00 AM
#188:


Did nobody else see when I posted

Year = Y
Second = 2
Janurary = J

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/22/11 8:50:00 AM
#189:


Coffee, dude.

We all noticed this after the first video man.

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Coffee Ninja
12/22/11 9:20:00 AM
#190:


oh, missed the discussion on that then.

Anyway watching NXT

....so who the hell is the Heel in this story? Bateman or Curtis, cause right now it really seems like Curtis is the heel and im supposed to feel bad for Bateman. But Bateman still seems like a prick..is it just heel vs heel?

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/22/11 9:21:00 AM
#191:


Curtis is the alpha, so clearly he is face.

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TimJab
12/22/11 9:28:00 AM
#192:


jericho hasn't wanted to be called Y2J since before he returned last time

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JaKyL25
12/22/11 9:32:00 AM
#193:


Haven't seen this week's episode yet but Curtis is the heel. It's been established that Bateman really loves Maxine, but Maxine is just using Bateman and Curtis just wants to break them up because he's a douche.

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XIII_rocks
12/22/11 9:33:00 AM
#194:


"I would be extremely nervous about two guys shaking off the ring rust in the same event to be honest. Not to mention the avarage age in both matches then approaches like 40. What is this, WCW? During your supposed "Youth Movement?""

If January 2nd IS Jericho, he's got 4 months before WM to shake it off. He'll be fine.

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JaKyL25
12/22/11 9:36:00 AM
#195:


Plus, the way to get the Youth Movement over is to have them BEAT established guys like Jericho. It's a lot harder for two guys to get over fighting each other than it is for one guy who's already over to put another guy over.

I mean, yes it happens, E&C vs. Hardys being probably the most famous example, but it's rare.

And you can't make the WCW 2000 mistake of having the Youth Movement be the heels. <_<

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Coffee Ninja
12/22/11 9:37:00 AM
#196:


honestly...Maxine is the face I guess

Curtis is a total alpha jerk

Bateman comes off as the obsessive creepy stalker

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JaKyL25
12/22/11 9:38:00 AM
#197:


But Maxine in the past has demonstrated that her "love" with Bateman hinges entirely on his success. I ain't saying she's a gold digger...but she ain't messin' with no broke Batemans.

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Coffee Ninja
12/22/11 9:39:00 AM
#198:


man its been a while....Tyson Kidd has hair now!

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X_Dante_X
12/22/11 9:40:00 AM
#199:


I cannot believe that its still going

how many more weeks until it passes all of 1-4 in length?

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/22/11 9:40:00 AM
#200:


Never.

This season of NXT will never end.

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