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Wanglicious
03/21/12 10:04:00 PM
#101:


mind you, with that system you'd also have the rock actually gain new material and not be a pony spitting the same one liners for a month as he'd be free to talk smack about cena's antics during the year!

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GTM
03/21/12 10:07:00 PM
#102:


From: Wanglicious | #093
...though i guess within WWE there's also stuff like HBK/Taker 2.

which pretty much started the day after and didn't kick into full gear until later.


...I can beat you undertaker. *is dragged away*

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JaKyL25
03/21/12 10:09:00 PM
#103:


Well there, you just proved my point that "a better creative team could have actually handled announcing the match a year in advance and made it work."

(although to be fair, that's presuming Rock can show up and wrestle a lot)

It's always bugged me that CENA was the one who suggested "let's wait a year then fight." That's not in his character. This is the same man that GAVE UP a WM Title shot he won in the Rumble just to get at Randy Orton quicker.

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JaKyL25
03/21/12 10:16:00 PM
#104:


From: Wanglicious | #101
mind you, with that system you'd also have the rock actually gain new material and not be a pony spitting the same one liners for a month as he'd be free to talk smack about cena's antics during the year!


Hey, at least Rock this week actually acted like winning the match meant something! Progress! <_<

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 10:21:00 PM
#105:


I'm just saying, you don't waste Rock/Cena on a lesser PPV. Wrestlemania is going to do absolutely huge PPV buys because of it. I don't think Extreme Rules would have the PPV buys to justify it that quickly, even if it makes sense storywise.

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JaKyL25
03/21/12 10:22:00 PM
#106:


LOL I just read this, funny after what SMuffin said earlier:

- WWE is planning to announce the main event for WrestleMania 29 as soon as the Raw after WrestleMania 29. WWE officials are expecting the show to be the highest-rated of the year and are currently looking at John Cena, The Rock, Steve Austin and The Undertaker as the top guys to build next year's show around.

Austin has not committed to working another match yet but has been open to a return match in the right situation.

Credit: Wrestling Observer


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TheRock1525
03/21/12 10:23:00 PM
#107:


Rock/Austin IV!

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Wanglicious
03/21/12 10:23:00 PM
#108:


my god. 'let's revolve our show around the older guys' indeed.

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JaKyL25
03/21/12 10:23:00 PM
#109:


From: TheRock1525 | #105
I'm just saying, you don't waste Rock/Cena on a lesser PPV. Wrestlemania is going to do absolutely huge PPV buys because of it. I don't think Extreme Rules would have the PPV buys to justify it that quickly, even if it makes sense storywise.


And all I was saying is that the storyline they created would naturally result in a match at Extreme Rules, and it's only due to deus ex machina that it didn't.

My whole point in all this is that the execution of the concept was horrible, not the concept itself.

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Wanglicious
03/21/12 10:24:00 PM
#110:


nah, the austin bit is to make another parallel. cena/rock, punk/austin. dude's wanted it for a while and that's obviously been in the works for a while.

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JaKyL25
03/21/12 10:29:00 PM
#111:


You can't really ANNOUNCE Punk vs. Austin right now though, with Punk riding this huge babyface wave and slowly becoming a new pillar of WWE.

If they announced Cena vs. Taker, that actually has a better chance of working, because that's a match that ONLY has meaning at Wrestlemania.

EDIT: Although good lord, if anyone thinks Cena = Superman now, just wait until they're actively building him as a threat to the Streak.

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Wanglicious
03/21/12 10:30:00 PM
#112:


oh of course not. right now punk/jericho's a much bigger deal anyway. and it's more like punk became a rock solid made of marble pillar for the wwe, then hhh happened and he brought a sledgehammer to it, so now he's a taped up pillar under renovation.

jericho however is a master architect. punk/austin right NOW would be a bad thing to announce, but at around say... summerslam or something? yeah. some teasing encounters after jericho's done, some minor ribbing. and just drive towards it.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 10:35:00 PM
#113:


Cena/Taker I could get behind because now taking down Taker at Wrestlemania has become the biggest thing in the WWE. Bigger than winning a title, even. Cena could point out that it's the only thing he hasn't done in the company and make it his goal.

Punk/Austin is odd because I think you need a heel Punk for it to work to it's maximum potential.

And if Rock is the odd man out of the group, I'm assuming him and Orton would go at it.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 10:40:00 PM
#114:


Also, how weird is it going to be when Taker finally takes off that hood and we see his bald head? I mean, I've seen pictures of him bald but it just seems so much weirder to actually see it on WWE TV.

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bryans7
03/21/12 10:45:00 PM
#115:


I'm still holding out hope for a jheri curl.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 11:52:00 PM
#116:


Huge afro under there.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 6:19:00 AM
#117:


EDIT: Although good lord, if anyone thinks Cena = Superman now, just wait until they're actively building him as a threat to the Streak.

2007 - 2009 Cena was about peak Superman. It's really not POSSIBLE for them to build him any higher than he already was back then.

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Kinglicious
03/22/12 6:48:00 AM
#118:


Cena is in superman mode now for wrestlemania, but for most of the year he was just really tough, but not unbeatable. That was mostly okay there. Del Rio showed he could hang and punk flat out had crazier moments yet also ran much more normal variations too.

Still, cena beating hhh this time next year would be amazing. Not the match, just the idea of hhh under cena.

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XIII_rocks
03/22/12 6:49:00 AM
#119:


It's always bugged me that CENA was the one who suggested "let's wait a year then fight."

Wasn't that Rock? Cena was all "they don't want us to talk, they want a MATCH". And Rock was all "you and I are similar in a lot of ways because we do things better than anyone, so we should make history and do it at WM28". ...right?

And then The Corre came out for no reason >_>;

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muddersmilk
03/22/12 7:10:00 AM
#120:


GTM posted...
punk is dr horrible and this is still my favorite video of all time



I never get tired of that.

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PrivateBiscuit1
03/22/12 7:44:00 AM
#121:


SMACKDOWN SPOILERS: Lillian still sucks at announcing.

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XIII_rocks
03/22/12 9:50:00 AM
#122:


So 5 of the 6 singles matches at WM all involve one man who was in team WWF at SvS 2001.

ROCK/Cena
TAKER/Trips
KANE/Orton
SHOW/Cody
JERICHO/Punk

And with the exception of Taker, the younger guy is gonna win (or at least escape with their title in Cody's case, because I think he might lose by DQ). It's like a passing of the torch PPV! Not that Orton, Cena or Punk need torches passing to them right now but shut up >_>

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bryans7
03/22/12 9:52:00 AM
#123:


Show/Rhodes over Sheamus/Bryan?

edit: Nevermind, I need to learn to read.

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 10:32:00 AM
#124:


I was checking out the attractions for AXXESS (http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/28/axxess-attractions) and this one amused me:

Cenation Action Zone – NEW FOR 2012! Visit the CeNation for fun, interactive opportunities to show your hustle, loyalty and respect. Test your trivia knowledge for your chance to win great prizes! Plus, record your own Cena-inspired entrance music, pose for the camera at the Cena vs. Rock photo shoot, climb the "Rise Above Hate" rock wall and more!

How exactly does one interactively show their loyalty or respect?

And LOL @ the rock wall.

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KommunistKoala
03/22/12 10:53:00 AM
#125:


XIII_rocks posted...
So 5 of the 6 singles matches at WM all involve one man who was in team WWF at SvS 2001.

ROCK/Cena
TAKER/Trips
KANE/Orton
SHOW/Cody
JERICHO/Punk

And with the exception of Taker, the younger guy is gonna win (or at least escape with their title in Cody's case, because I think he might lose by DQ). It's like a passing of the torch PPV! Not that Orton, Cena or Punk need torches passing to them right now but shut up >_>


Hey Kane can win!

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XIII_rocks
03/22/12 10:57:00 AM
#126:


OK so I'm listening to this podcast with Cena I found on the PWB:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/extramustard/hotclicks/03/20/lindsay-frimodt-john-cena-talks-the-rock-wrestlemania/index.html

He sounded great until he said he doesn't have a shred of indecency in him >_> Come on man.

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 11:15:00 AM
#127:


http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/28/streaks-that-have-ended

XD @ #7

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muddersmilk
03/22/12 11:29:00 AM
#128:


How exactly does one interactively show their loyalty or respect?

Do a really bad salute to show respect?

And LOL @ the rock wall.

I want Kane to randomly wander in and start pulling little kids off the wall.

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 11:30:00 AM
#129:


http://www.smvod.com/chikara

Smart Mark Video on Demand has launched, and now every CHIKARA show since the start of 2010 is available for instant streaming for the low, low price of $10 each!

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muddersmilk
03/22/12 11:47:00 AM
#130:


Jakyl25 posted...
http://www.wwe.com/shows/wrestlemania/28/streaks-that-have-ended

XD @ #7


Taker's streak to be ended with a tazer.

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Lopen
03/22/12 11:50:00 AM
#131:


I'm surprised they gave a WCW streak (even if it should obviously be #1) top billing

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muddersmilk
03/22/12 11:52:00 AM
#132:


I expected Bruno to be #1 honestly. I would have had no issue with it.

And Goldberg was clearly put at #1 so they could draw the Kliq parallel.

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voltch
03/22/12 11:59:00 AM
#133:


Hang on, I swear Hogan lost on PPV between 85-90.

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 12:08:00 PM
#134:


Survivor Series 1987

And also Royal Rumble 1989

EDIT: He was never pinned or submitted in either of those losses though. It's a Crimson-style "never been PERSONALLY defeated" streak.

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voltch
03/22/12 12:37:00 PM
#135:


Crimsons' undefeated streak includes winning and losing tag titles, what a joke.

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Lopen
03/22/12 12:40:00 PM
#136:


Crimson's undefeated streak needs to be called out and laid to rest by the guy who calls it out. I mean dude's been "undefeated" for over a year and no one cares aside from the Impact Zone's canned audience. I'm pretty sure his reactions are sub Tatanka, sub Steve Blackman, and sub Glacier levels right now. If it's not working at this point it's never going to work. Hopefully Matt Morgan ends it.

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voltch
03/22/12 12:41:00 PM
#137:


Sub Hardcore Holly.

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Lopen
03/22/12 12:42:00 PM
#138:


I don't even remember Holly having an undefeated streak!

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 12:45:00 PM
#139:


The problem is that "he's undefeated" is really the only thing Crimson has going for him. Take that away and he's just a smaller ginger Rob Terry.

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Lopen
03/22/12 12:50:00 PM
#140:


Exactly so you might as well have someone who needs a boost and actually has something marketable end the streak and fire his ass or send him to jobbersville.

And I'm glad you made the Rob Terry comparison because I know I'd rather see Rob Terry matches than Crimson matches.

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TheRock1525
03/22/12 2:49:00 PM
#141:


What about Big Show's WM losing streak? Didn't he lose 7-8 in a row?

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 5:17:00 PM
#142:


It LOOKS like they're turning Crimson heel and feuding him with Morgan. One would HOPE Morgan goes over, but I'm not counting on it.

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voltch
03/22/12 5:20:00 PM
#143:


AIM cchat: b8watchesTNA

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 5:36:00 PM
#144:


So, I assume you're all going to join me in following @MisterRyder

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 7:04:00 PM
#145:


From: SmartMuffin | #142
It LOOKS like they're turning Crimson heel and feuding him with Morgan. One would HOPE Morgan goes over, but I'm not counting on it.


On the contrary, I think if you want to milk every last drop you can out of Crimson, you keep him undefeated until he runs into TNA Champion James Storm at a PPV, and have Storm end it.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 7:07:00 PM
#146:


Im pretty worried theyre keeping him undefeated until BFG

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 7:09:00 PM
#147:


Think they'll do the Bound For Glory series again?

Or is there a kayfabe excuse not to, in the sense that "this concept resulted in the tyrannical reign of Bobby Roode so forget that!"

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 7:12:00 PM
#148:


From: Jakyl25 | #147
Think they'll do the Bound For Glory series again?

Or is there a kayfabe excuse not to, in the sense that "this concept resulted in the tyrannical reign of Bobby Roode so forget that!"


I don't see how the BFG series is responsible for Roode. Roode lost his BFG series match and then ended up winning the title from someone completely different

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JaKyL25
03/22/12 7:14:00 PM
#149:


Well the hastily constructed logic behind his heel turn was that he learned that keeping the title means doing whatever it takes from seeing Angle cheat his way to victory at BFG against him after 4 months of hard work.

Kinda flimsy considering that Roode has already BEEN a heel for long stretches of time, but hey, that was their reasoning.

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SmartMuffin
03/22/12 7:16:00 PM
#150:


Well, when Roode USED to be a heel, it was because he was a rich tycoon of some sort.

Somehow during his time in Beer Money, he seems to have lost most of his riches. Perhaps James Storm drank it all away.

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