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OmarsComin
04/04/12 3:59:00 PM
#301:


Ken is the bane of my life

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ZFS
04/04/12 4:00:00 PM
#302:


Ken too good

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agesboy
04/04/12 4:00:00 PM
#303:


why am i so bad against t hawk and hakan as abel

argh

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 4:03:00 PM
#304:


I lose to every kind of Ken

I swear the Ken-Elena matchup feels so lopsided sometimes. I can hold my own against the Chuns Yuns and Makotos of the world, why is it that Ken just keeps obliterating me

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 4:09:00 PM
#305:


also we are now a lot of months into this game, and still the majority of people in ranked are waiting to see who I pick before picking their character

how lame is that

if any actual work had gone into this port I would've really appreciated blind character picking for online

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ZeroSignal620
04/04/12 4:42:00 PM
#306:


I keep losing to ****ing Blanka spammers

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 4:47:00 PM
#307:


I'm surprised you SF4 players don't complain about Balrog more

I've only played as him a couple times but he seems like the kind of character that would induce hate

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ZeroSignal620
04/04/12 4:50:00 PM
#308:


I've never even played against Balrog online. I've played at least 3 different Blankas and they all either spam shock or flying rolls.

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 4:53:00 PM
#309:


as much as I think Blanka is an awful character in SF4, I still prefer that version to the SF2 and CvS2 versions

but of course they're all unpleasant

Blanka has just never been good

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ZeroSignal620
04/04/12 5:04:00 PM
#310:


Finally snapped my losing streak against a Ken, which is quite surprising imo.

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 5:22:00 PM
#311:


I really like Ken

I wish that everyone and their mother didn't play him in 3s online or I'd probably work him into my rotation more

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 6:39:00 PM
#312:


I spent the last half hour playing Makoto online

she's really good

matches that were really hard for Elena become pretty easy for Makoto

think I might need to have a new main character

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skull_bonek23
04/04/12 8:20:00 PM
#313:


OmarsComin posted...
I'm surprised you SF4 players don't complain about Balrog more

I've only played as him a couple times but he seems like the kind of character that would induce hate


Balrog is easy to zone if your character has decent pokes. If he gets in he can be a problem but you could make that argument with a lot of characters.

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ZeroSignal620
04/04/12 9:01:00 PM
#314:


Worst feeling in the world: Being up 2-0 on a guy 2 ranks higher than you, and then he wins the next three.

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TheKnightOfNee
04/04/12 9:11:00 PM
#315:


agesboy | Posted 4/4/2012 7:00:32 PM | message detail | quote
why am i so bad against t hawk and hakan as abel


That's actually one of THawk's most favorable matchups! It should be harder for you against him than other characters.

Also, Balrog is annoying, but everyone plays him the exact same way and they all go for the headbutt into ultra combo, and you can lure 90% of people into biting on that. It's really annoying if Balrog puts you in a corner, but I generally have good patience there, and again I will wait for them to get antsy and throw out that headbutt.

Also when you are often faced with the most lopsided matchup in the game against Blanka it seems dumb to complain about any other character.

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agesboy
04/04/12 9:23:00 PM
#316:


yeah but everyone hates blanka

actually how the hell do you do anything to blanka as abel, I think the only thing I did was try to bait out bad rolls by focus dashing a lot

i had like zero offense unless he messed up a lot

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PrivateBiscuit1
04/04/12 9:26:00 PM
#317:


Block Blanka Ball.

Punish with COD.

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ZFS
04/04/12 10:38:00 PM
#318:


anyone want to sf4 psn

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agesboy
04/04/12 11:04:00 PM
#319:


I'd be up for it but aren't you a hell of a lot better than me

my highest rank online is C with Juri/Abel I think

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ZFS
04/04/12 11:24:00 PM
#320:


I dunno! It's been a while since I last played consistently.

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ZFS
04/04/12 11:31:00 PM
#321:


I'll probably need a few rounds to adjust to the PS3 controller!

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ZFS
04/04/12 11:49:00 PM
#322:


okay that ibuki win was wrong and should have been yours

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OmarsComin
04/04/12 11:52:00 PM
#323:


anyone want to sf4 psn

wrong console

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:09:00 AM
#324:


also didn't you say you bought 3s for PS3

I wanna see replays

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:35:00 AM
#325:


I just learned something that appeals to me

I wish Capcom would just think a little more about things like Mike Z is doing.

In Skullgirls, you press 2 buttons to throw just like in SF3/SF4 BUT...you have to be standing up to throw tech. DB/DF/D+throw will not throw or tech throws. If you press any of those direction + throw you will get a c.LP but no throw/throw tech OS.


this is what I want to hear

OSs are so dumb and I am not down with them

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ZFS
04/05/12 12:42:00 AM
#326:


good games ages

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agesboy
04/05/12 12:47:00 AM
#327:


forgot to mention that I only have one ethernet wire in my dorm so I can't connect to PSN and laptop internet at the same time! and I have classes in like three hours so yeah I need a nap

ZFS posted...
okay that ibuki win was wrong and should have been yours

hah I always crack under pressure near the end, I just end up doing stupid random stuff that loses me the round >_> I need more experience to get used to that feeling

good matches by the way! in case you couldn't tell, I like grapplers because if you can play one of them, you can pretty much play all of them, even Hakan, apparently. the range on his grabs is absurdly huge, why exactly is he considered mostly useless anyways?

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:48:00 AM
#328:


did you play Zangief in that set ages

this is important for me to know

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agesboy
04/05/12 12:49:00 AM
#329:


yep, about two or three times

he's actually like one of my highest BP characters since I mained him when i got the game months ago, but I'm not as decent with him as abel, hakan, or t hawk

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ZFS
04/05/12 12:51:00 AM
#330:


Yeah, you did well with the grapplers. The fact they can respond with a grab at any time makes it hard to get in, except with the most basic combos. I'm trying to bring back the zfs-Ken duo from so many years back, so that's why I chose him so much. Have to unlearn and relearn shotos!

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agesboy
04/05/12 12:56:00 AM
#331:


best thing would probably be to jump a ton and only use light attacks and crossups to annoy me, since people who do that all seem to completely own me and make me whiff every throw

also when hakan's lubed down, just try to fireball him from a range, cuz pretty much any attack you make he can just throw into. his approaching outside of the slide seems pretty bad

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:00:00 AM
#332:


quick poll for zfs: between me and ages, who is more of a dick with zangief

if you say me I won't even be upset

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agesboy
04/05/12 1:02:00 AM
#333:


well i never won against him with gief

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:02:00 AM
#334:


also ages it sounds like you are one more B8er in a long list of people who are better than me at SF4. if you have "highest BP characters" that's enough right there

since my "highest BP character" is like the difference between 200BP Chun and 100BP Ken

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ZFS
04/05/12 1:08:00 AM
#335:


Yeah, it was only a couple times he used Zangief. He didn't triple lariat, though!

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:14:00 AM
#336:


triple lariat I'm so good

if it makes me a better person I was trying to mash out a 360 with all the punch buttons

wait does that make me a better person

probably not

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ZFS
04/05/12 1:19:00 AM
#337:


grapplers

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:22:00 AM
#338:


I don't play 'em

why play grapplers when you can play Makoto and rush that s*** down

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ZFS
04/05/12 1:23:00 AM
#339:


He played Makoto a few times. He knew some of her tricks, but you know how it goes.

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agesboy
04/05/12 1:30:00 AM
#340:


makoto was one of the characters I really wanted to get good with but never could, mainly because I can't for the life of me figure out how to make her antiair move hit anything at all

ex karakusa into U1 is awesomeness incarnate though

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ZFS
04/05/12 1:38:00 AM
#341:


I think it's more Makoto than you. She has some real disadvantages in AE that make it easy to get good hit in. You played her pretty well, but that AA is so bad that it's hard to respond after getting knocked down.

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:39:00 AM
#342:


oh yeah karakusa

I pretty much never do it on purpose because it's so bad in 3s

iirc it has limited utility in SF4 as well

sometimes it comes out on accident though, or I'll throw it out if I expect a neutral jump on my wakeup or something

I know that her anti-air in 3s is standing mp or standing hp or (lol) crouching mk. no idea what it is in SF4.

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:40:00 AM
#343:


if you want a character who has a good option on your wakeup, just play Chun!

ex sbk every time

every time

even if they expect it

are you waking up?

ex sbk

(I might be bad at this game and at giving advice, fair warning)

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agesboy
04/05/12 1:48:00 AM
#344:


I heard she got nothing but buffs in AE and became one of the stronger characters, huh. But yeah, her wakeup options suck and I usually just defend.

iirc it has limited utility in SF4 as well

I use it for absolutely nothing else than confirming U1, you don't really have very enough frames to do anything fancy >_>

if you want a character who has a good option on your wakeup, just play Chun!

ex sbk every time

every time

even if they expect it

are you waking up?

ex sbk

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sounds like the shoto solution to everything

and it probably works on every character I play except abel because I bait the f*** out of everything with him

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:11:00 PM
#345:


oh man Makoto vs Ken in 3s is the best matchup ever

no more not being able to do anything

I"m switching to Makoto

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:15:00 PM
#346:


second Ken in a row obliterated

like seriously

Makoto is the best

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Weakupedia
04/05/12 12:16:00 PM
#347:


makoto got a few small nerfs with AE 2012, iirc, but she still pretty scary.

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 12:33:00 PM
#348:


it needs to be said:

a good cross section of the 3s Ken players are subhuman filth

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Not_an_Owl
04/05/12 12:53:00 PM
#349:


SF4 Makoto is hilariously fun to play. A lot of matches with her come down to "does your opponent know the Makoto matchup?". If no, you win for free. If yes, you might still win because she hits like a truck and has ridiculous hitboxes on everything.

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OmarsComin
04/05/12 1:09:00 PM
#350:


okay so I've found a tradeoff

Makoto is better against most of the cast

but she can't beat Dudley

hrm

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